Brocialists, Let's Talk Feminism

Julian Ramirez
Julian Ramirez

youtu.be/etQsDZzXEUA

The major breadtube/lefttube channels are recommending this, I just wanted to know what your thoughts are.

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Andrew Campbell
Andrew Campbell

We should call it 'vaginism', by the way. When you look at things and people through the lens of genitals, you oughta be called out for that.

Xavier Morgan
Xavier Morgan

I just wanted to know what your thoughts are.

Not as good (persuasive) as Mexie,
but not as bad (off putting) as Twitter.
I had a look at Twitter yesterday, someone was complaining "one thing I've noticed about this platform [twitter] is white men always need to get the last word."
Eeeeek! Back to Zig Forums!
But here you've got Strasserites and Third Positionists here on drive by recruitment drives.

If might seem like we're caught between the Devil and the deep blue sea, sometimes, but the neo-Nazis are worse than the IDpolers.

The latter will end up with more female porkys, female lobsters climbing the hierarchy (which at worst, can't be any worse than the situation we already have).

But the former might get well people loaded onto cattle trucks ( The "final solution" wasn't the plan from the start. It was the result of anti-Semitism plus Hitler encouraging a jockeying for position among his subordinates to come up with extreme measures
youtu.be/0avROpitALw)

Personally I'm not as interested in being someone's "ally" as finding if or how much my interests overlap with theirs.
If it doesn't, there isn't any basis for cooperation.

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Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

wow never seen this thread on here before

yeah… everyone here agrees that women deserve equal rights and equal autonomy, and also that there are some crazy libs in feminism too. ok!!!! glad to have this conversation again!!!! i think everyone learned a lot here !!!!

Eli Wood
Eli Wood

mods should make that feminism containment thread a cyclical tbhfam

James Johnson
James Johnson

There is already a feminist shitposting thread. Don't encourage /pol/ LARPers to shit up our board more than they do it already.

That aside, that guy is a complete faggot. We don't care about 1st worldist feminist "struggles". All idpollers are from very wealthy and developed countries, to the absolute surprise of nobody.

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

P.D Whatever his name is
Literally liberal tier, fuck off op.

Parker Williams
Parker Williams

Also this we have a feminist containment thread already. Report this and if the mods make the right choice this thread will be down by Friday.

Christopher Foster
Christopher Foster

I don't know him but I'm gonna go with
<PP Moron

Blake Green
Blake Green

deplatform the feminists
lol just ban the MRAs that keep outing themselves
We should make feminists threads regularly so they keep self-selecting for the banhammer
Guarantee you board quality will increase dramatically

Carter Kelly
Carter Kelly

Leftists will eat their own. The infighting is unreal.

Jordan Thompson
Jordan Thompson

Gender abolition needs to be a central part of any serious socialist platform.

Isaiah Clark
Isaiah Clark

their own
implying
The intersection of MRAs and leftists is an empty set
Give up your reactionary views or don't be surprised when you get the bullet too

Andrew Morris
Andrew Morris

Fixed the image

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Dylan Thomas
Dylan Thomas

All men are reactionary, they shall perish into the REVOLUTIONARY HOLOCAUST

Josiah Reed
Josiah Reed

Brocialists, Let's Talk Feminism
"No"

Liam Hernandez
Liam Hernandez

Kill all men, feminine men will be turned into women and never allowed to breed. Constant chastity. HRT, buttplugs. Women shall be artifically impregnated while their femboy cuck men watch on dressed in frilly dresses. Women shall collectivize the men as common property and communism shall rule the Earth

Leo Young
Leo Young

everyone who disagrees with me is a MRA
This is your brain on internationality. Also MRAs really aren’t a problem, their harmless compared to rabid anti-communists. Their a meme ideology.

Mason Cook
Mason Cook

OP here, I forgot about the fem containment thread as I've only been posting again after a while.

I just wanted to see where my favourite leftist board is at as a barometer on new video.

I myself don't get the tension and controversy that the video addresses. Admittedly I'm in a leftist twitter/YouTube echo chamber that's currently concerned with the fake anti-Semitism smear against Corbyn and the histrionics of Brexit, so I don't really get if "brocialists" are a problem or not.

Benjamin Campbell
Benjamin Campbell

Feminist containment thread already exists tbh. Also lazy thread, will just encourage shitposting and poltards

Andrew Carter
Andrew Carter

There's a significant crossover between the mras and rabid anti-communists because they both come from the lolbert milieu.

Jack Ramirez
Jack Ramirez

Don’t act like a /leftypol/ fascist and anchor every thread you don’t like

Easton Gonzalez
Easton Gonzalez

The thread already exists. Check the catalogue.

Michael Martin
Michael Martin

m-muh generals!1!
This isn’t 4/pol/, is it?

Colton Hall
Colton Hall

Ok faggot

Jordan Sanders
Jordan Sanders

This is your brain on internationality
Yes, exactly. Nationalism is not, cannot be, and never has been, a leftist position.
MRAs are never, and never have been, leftists.

Nathaniel Powell
Nathaniel Powell

the neo-Nazis are worse than the IDpolers
Nazis are 1000% IdPol (they burst into autistic screeching about "muh civnats" and "muh lolberts" if you utter the word on /pol/), feminazis are 1000% nazi.

THIS
Better yet, a broader shitlib cringe cyclical.

For something perennial but arguably off-topic for the board, shoveling it into a general makes sense. Like the trash thread.

Charles Moore
Charles Moore

This "let's make slow, boring videos with distracting images instead of writing an article" trend has to stop.

Aiden Morris
Aiden Morris

There are plenty of left wing MRAs though. They tend to get shouted down by the right wingers who got recruited by people trying to make money running MRA websites. It's not accurate to say MRAs come from the lolbert milieu in general since it's just that particular influx that did. The movement orginated with social progressive and lefty types who wanted to abolish gender roles in general and extend where feminism left off. They've become dominated by right wingers now because those autistic fuckers can screech louder than anybody else.

Maybe you're making a joke, but nationalism and MRAs aren't really related. I think mistyped and meant "intersectionality." It's entirely possible for MRAs to be left wing and anti-capitalist. The only contradiction I'm aware of is with Marxism rejecting the philosophy of natural rights, but "men's rights" is more shorthand than a technical position. MRA issues actually overlap significantly with class struggle when it comes to men in the workplace, e.g. workplace fatality and conscription.

Isaiah Reyes
Isaiah Reyes

Leftists will eat their own. The infighting is unreal.

Luckily, the far right's worse. youtu.be/kl6UzB5V0H4

Leo Thompson
Leo Thompson

yeah but the clique/audience is on youtube
It would be alright if people put any real effort into presentation honestly. Contrapoints is a good example even if her specific style is annoying and her content is kind of retarded, but those are separate problems.

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

There are plenty of left wing MRAs though. They tend to get shouted down by the right wingers who got recruited by people trying to make money running MRA websites. It's not accurate to say MRAs come from the lolbert milieu in general since it's just that particular influx that did. The movement orginated with social progressive and lefty types who wanted to abolish gender roles in general and extend where feminism left off. They've become dominated by right wingers now because those autistic fuckers can screech louder than anybody else.
No, it was always the same type of coopting of progessive liberation movements for a false equivalence idpol victim narrative where "actually the oppressors are the REAL victims" that reactionaries always try to pull. It's literally their only trick. It's the same as "white genocide," "the war on Christmas," "straight marriage is under attack," and "taxation is theft."
Men are not victims *as such.* They never have been.
Women couldn't vote one hundred years ago, and were largely considered property. These two things are both still the case in some places, and even where they aren't society still has entrenched social structures, like marriage and the nuclear family, that are predicated on and perpetuate the subjugation of women.
The struggle for women's liberation and some some dude whining about his alimony are not even remotely similar. It's a false equivalence designed specifically to satire and distract from gender equality, the central tenet and goal of all types of feminism.

Elijah Robinson
Elijah Robinson

Are your conclusions based on any specific knowledge of the movement? Because it sounds like assumptions.

Aaron White
Aaron White

I'll keep you updated on how the bibliography for my post is coming along

Lincoln Lewis
Lincoln Lewis

I'll say things that are simply false and when challenged to support my claims, I'll mock the idea of backing up ideas with evidence

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Dylan Green
Dylan Green

I misspelled it

Evan Myers
Evan Myers

A bunch of misandary disguised with the a priori assumption that men are oppressing women
Clever girl
The struggle for women's liberation and some some dude whining about his alimony are not even remotely similar.
Nice lying by omission, mostly child support and having their children violently ripped away from them by the state that they are "whining" about. Regardless how is being an indentured servant or being thrown in debtors prison if you don't pay child support not important to liberation?
Look sweaty, once men aren't violently oppressed by the state to placate women by giving them a comparative advantage thing will actually get better for women, not worse.
You sound like some liberal freaking out about the civil rights movement.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

No, it was always the same type of coopting of progessive liberation movements for a false equivalence idpol victim narrative where "actually the oppressors are the REAL victims" that reactionaries always try to pull. It's literally their only trick. It's the same as "white genocide," "the war on Christmas," "straight marriage is under attack," and "taxation is theft."
Men are not victims *as such.* They never have been.
Women couldn't vote one hundred years ago, and were largely considered property. These two things are both still the case in some places, and even where they aren't society still has entrenched social structures, like marriage and the nuclear family, that are predicated on and perpetuate the subjugation of women.
The struggle for women's liberation and some some dude whining about his alimony are not even remotely similar. It's a false equivalence designed specifically to satire and distract from gender equality, the central tenet and goal of all types of feminism.

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Matthew Richardson
Matthew Richardson

I'll just accuse you of telling lies instead of making any specific point, and when dismissed I'll pretend since you didn't submit a bibliography the things you said were false without pointing to which things and how

civil rights bad

Anyone can cherrypick, asshat

Luis Anderson
Luis Anderson

lel

sweaty

millions of war dead aren't victims as much guise lol XD
poor men are oppressors because they're men
statictics that affect broad segments of the population is cherrypicking because I'm an illiterate fuckwit who doesn't understand what that word means
What a fucking waste of repeating digits.

Chase Flores
Chase Flores

millions of war dead aren't victims as much guise lol
women never die from war
lmao
Maybe men shouldn't start wars that kill everyone and then prevent women from stopping said wars.
poor men are oppressors because they're men
Stop conflating class and gender. They aren't exploited as men, but as because of class. Women are exploited *as such* systematically, before and during capitalist society. This is in addition to class based oppression, and they often exacerbate one another.
statictics that affect broad segments of the population is cherrypicking because I'm an illiterate fuckwit who doesn't understand what that word means
Are you mathematically challenged? You do know what cherrypicking is, right???

Joshua Lewis
Joshua Lewis

What ahistorical gibberish. All of the original MRAs in the 1970s (many of them women) originated as feminists, ejected from the burgeoning 3rd-wave feminazi movement over their heretical observation that ending sexism would require sacrifices from women as well.

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Samuel Bailey
Samuel Bailey

Third-wave feminism is an iteration of the feminist movement that began in the early 1990s United States[2] and continued until the fourth wave began around 2012.[3][4]
feminazis
Oh look, it's retarded

Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

"no"

Easton Collins
Easton Collins

fugg

Gavin Barnes
Gavin Barnes

Anyone can cherrypick, asshat
Cherrypicking is when you pick specific data points out of noise to give the appearance of a trend. It doesn't apply here, where the existence of the data points is the matter in question.

The feminist waves aren't clearly defined, and user pretty obviously meant they were second wavers.

women never die from war
Not in numbers approaching men's deaths.
They aren't exploited as men, but as because of class.
The people working the most dangerous jobs are all men. Look at workplace fatalities. There's a glass floor as much as there's a glass ceiling.
You do know what cherrypicking is, right???
Obviously you don't. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking Shit, the description is almost poetic regarding the way dipshits like you view how men are treated as men.
<The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the tree's fruit is in a likewise good condition.

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Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

Not in numbers approaching men's deaths.
Maybe men are just more warlike and also worse at fighting? Either way, I don't really care. The problem is war, not who volunteers for it.
The people working the most dangerous jobs are all men. Look at workplace fatalities. There's a glass floor as much as there's a glass ceiling.
Cry me a river. Not even a generation ago women weren't allowed to have jobs. It isn't surprising they still aren't allowed to have jobs that paternalist fucks like yourself deem to be too dangerous and won't hire them for or encourage them to do.
is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position.
You know, like what you're doing when you point out a few problems that disproportionately affect men (usually historically caused by male chauvinism to begin with) while ignoring all of the clear indications that men, as such, are first class citizens while women STILL have second class citizen status even in the most "liberated" areas. That is cherrypicking. You're generalizing based on a few data points that don't accurately reflect the data altogether. But you already know this, and you're arguing in bad faith. I refuse to believe you're actually this retarded.

Robert Cox
Robert Cox

Maybe men are just more warlike and also worse at fighting? Either way, I don't really care.
No shit, hypocrite
while ignoring all of the clear indications that men, as such, are first class citizens while women STILL have second class citizen status even in the most "liberated" areas
For each instance where women are oppressed i can give you at least 5 worse examples for men

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Benjamin Gonzalez
Benjamin Gonzalez

8/10 femdom shitpost. Next time slip some pegging in.

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