Venezuelan economy fixed

So you may have heard that venezuelans are having a hard time due to socialism, and are projected to have four digits, if not more, inflation this year. But maduro has gone and fixed it in one move.

What did he do? He increased minimum wage (for the fifth time this year) from 5 million BsF (min wage + food stamp equivalent) to 1800 BsS. Which may seem a bit confusing, but in a few days our currency will change. In 20 years of glorious revolution we had a reconversion which removed 3 zeroes from the currency and added "strong" to its name (fuerte) this time another 5 zeroes are being taken off and changing strong to sovereign (soberano). so we are talking about a, roughly, 36 times increase of minimum wage. This will, of course, not affect the price of goods as we all know you can just increase the minimum wage and the monetary base of a country without losing an inch of value for your currency, brilliant examples of this exist, like zimbabwe: paradise on earth.

Where were you when true socialism was finally tried?

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Well, there you go. Pure genius! Wonder why they never thought of just printing "strong" on the money before?

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I feel real bad for that 30% of the population that is white enough to pass as not a hue, but you brought this on yourself for not genociding your shitskin natives like the US (and to a lesser extent Canada) did. Now they vote you into communism.

Never underestimate the stupidity of a Taco Italian.

I guess he's afraid of death and so he views this nonsense as a way of prolonging his inevitable assassination a little bit longer.

There are more injuns than ever, and they get free everything. Fuck you.

Please starve yourselves to death in the forests. You may not understand it, but you're taking up some very beautiful real estate that the ethnostate is going to want.

Free Market Fags BTFO

it was my impression that the majority of native americans that died were due to illnesses brought from europe rather than them actively killing them.


Except that isn't what happens, and isn't what is happening, millions of venezuelans leaving to neighboring countries. You also take into account that government officials traffic gasoline, drugs and minerals (illegal mining) as well as shouldering terrorist groups like ELN, FARC and Hezbollah (and possibly isis considering that some of the attackers in the paris attack had venezuelan passports despite not being venezuelans) and the then vicepresident gave venezuelan passports to mudslimes back during the time trump temporarily banned the entry to the citizens of 7 muslims countries.

also, I unknowingly ignored another milestone from the socialist paradise. AS the government has put a forex control since over a decade ago a black market came to exist, that black market rate already surpassed 5.6 million bsf per dollar, which is 1 billion percent higher than the exchange rate when chavez got elected 20 years ago. Has anyone anywhere else accomplished this major feat in a country with comparable resources in a comparable time lapse?

Sauce?

To all the anons who predicted superinflation, congratulations you druid seers.

Absolutely Weimar

injuns are the minority among minorities it makes me laugh when non injun minorities shit all over injuns. injuns are the least of your worries unless you live next to a rez. remember 40 million niggers live in the US 50+ million hispanics there are upwards of 100million nonwhites in the US and what can be done about it

LMAO
And I thought of buying few Venezuelan govermental bonds for lulz and without hoping it for to go up but even then LOL
God damn, a joke that keeps on giving

Maybe now should be the time I buy it? It can't go any lower? Lol

I'd buy it as a novelty like zimbabwe's funny money

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Wack, stupid skanks. You’re with a hick

Thanks for suggestion
Might go to currency exchange

dolartoday.com/ here's one source (which is generally considered to lag behind the real price), and it was 560Bs in 1998 (0,560 BsF).

If you want more depressing figures, in the year 2000 a and cruiser of the same year would set you back 24.5 million Bs, or 24.5 thousand BsF. This week I bought a kilo of cheese of guyanese cheese for 5 million BsF, and that price ought increase manifold next week with the min wage hike.

So in other words he is increasing soldier pay?
Maduro and his army are like a leech on the oil well. That is probably the reason why people don't rebel. The soldiers have full stomachs and the people have no guns.
Let's hope that the oil prices don't go down.

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I think most of the lower ranks ones aren't well paid (still better pay than doctors, teachers and engineers, but that isn't saying much). However they have "ample" opportunity to gain more, by shaking people down at road checkpoints, by being given the responsibility of "protecting" the distribution of food, by being given an oil company (that, of course, can't be prosecuted by civilian authorities, not like the'd put their hands in high ranking corruption cases), drugs are smuggled, as far as I know, mostly by plane, and the military is also on the airports, the military also guards our border, from which gasoline is smuggled (both by land and water), and lastly, the military oversees most of the illegal mining activities in Bolivar state.

Then there's the "particular" cases where some military are given shit like governorship or even put in charge of the state oil company without having any idea on the matter (at this point the oil production is less than half than when chavez arrived, and at the time the oil barrel was just ~$10).

geanious

Oh, now this is rich, the government vowed to pay ALL wages, because they know that forcing private industries to suddenly pay 36 times more than they were the month before would make them go bankrupt (the ones that didn't fuck off already, anyway). Also said that'd eliminate the fiscal deficit while doing this (by no doubt just issuing new currency to pay the deficit). Also, noone has any idea how this will work, maybe they'll pay themselves, maybe they'll reimburse employers, and maybe this would be months after so when they pay back the money is valued as a fraction of the real value the employer had to dish out!

Ok, so what happens with the people that were earning more than minimum wage? no one knows! what if I'm jobless but I happen have a friend who is an employer? couldn't I just ask to be added to the list of workers? I mean, in the end the government will be footing the bill so my hypothetical friend would lose nothing while I do nothing, an impressive loop of non-production.

I don't want to know how much bus fare will cost now that a manifold increase of the circulating supply was implied, and they surely will not just keep asking the same waiting for the first of the new pay check to drop.

I imagine every family has a soldier among their sons and are depending on him to feed them.
Oil socialism. Kek.
I bet that Maduro has a wide screen LCD in his bedroom projecting oil prices.

Also, I've failed to mention something from the start of the thread, as I honestly still am not quite sure how to explain this to an outsider, but there's a reason behind the new minimum wage. It is set to 180 millions because the government said it'd be worth half a petro, and a petro is worth (according to them) 360 millions.

So what's petro? a crypto-currency backed by oil so that each is worth a barrel, except, it's not really backed, they just said the number of petros issued was based on the number of barrels, them being actually backed was what they tried to misdirect people into thinking that by wording. Even if it was backed, it is underground of a country with no rule of law, falling oil productions where most of the extracted oil is already committed to past deals (deals that can't even be fully fulfilled) so even if that was the case (and it is not), you wouldn't get your oil barrel if you asked for it.

Not only that, but at the starting point you can consider the petro to be public debt, issuing public debt requires the approval of congress, and it didn't get it. Maduro also claimed the petro had raised 5 billion dollars (more than any other cryptocurrency startup) but you can see the movement there were in the chain explorer.nemchina.com/#/s_account?account=NCGBBZKOTERO3EXMPPCNDNDXZQQJXBEMWWO7MB66

So, let's recap, you have an illegally issued debt that at first sight is backed by oil barrels (but isn't), that didn't raise shit despite claiming otherwise, the value of the token isn't determined by people buying and selling the petro but by the government saying it's worth as much as an oil barrel, and then the conversion of petro from dollars to bolivares is also at the government's discretion as there's no free market, or swap houses of currencies. So the minimum wage is based on the made up conversion from dollars to bolivars that is on top of the made up conversion of petros to dollars that is on top of an illegally issued currency. So let's go back a bit, let's pretend the petro is legal, that it is actually worth $60, and that the conversion to bolivares is accurate, that'd leave the MONTHLY minimum wage as $30.

But there's more! call now and receive a pathetic attempt to generate "traffic" for the petro. The country with falling oil productions, falling economy, and debt it can't pay offered india an oil subsidy if they used petro. They said that if they paid for their oil using petro they'd get a 30% discount on oil purchases. Unfortunately, india didn't bite archive.fo/QLwKB

I think one way that the Americans in this thread could help out our socialist friends in Venezuela is to declare ourselves outside consultants so that we can be put on the government payroll. If the people of Venezuela see us spending Official Venezuelan Sovereign Petro-Dollarbucks with full confidence then it will do a whole lot to bolster an already-powerful socialist economy.

In fact as an official consultant I would like to suggest that everyone in this thread go fuck themselves.

the nyt made an ok coverage of the problem, it doesn't go into the nitty gritty of corruption and I do have to correct something, but it's good to get an idea archive.fo/4hFkO . Now, the thing they fucked up at was talking about printing bolivares, the thing is the government fucked up so bad they fucked the printing machine years ago, and started importing bills as a result, imported bills obviously cost dollars which the government isn't swimming on, so for some time now the big majority of issued money has been virtual only, as a result there's a SHORTAGE OF CASH.

If you go buy at informal markets you'll find two different prices, a price for wire transfer and a price for cash, with spotty electrical system, spotty internet, spotty banking system (specially the government owned) and spotty availability of points of sale the cash punches above its weight by being worth more than its nominal value (or spending on how you want to look at it, electronic money is simply worth less than their nominal value). This means that you can buy something 2, 3 or even 4 times cheapest by paying with cash than with a wire transfer.


Considering USA already stopped the government from kiting their debt and stopping american owned businesses to make business with the government, the odds of that happening is zero.

At this point America is more concerned with the venezuelan owned citgo (which is in american soil) which has been set to collateral for several debts, including one with the russian Rosneft (half of its shares was set as a collateral for this debt), which of course isn't in the best interest of USA, recently a court ruled that crystallex could attach citgo's shares as a payment to what's owed to them.

Is there any way for an american to make some quick cash off of how bad venezuela is fucking itself

Venezuela needs to fire central bankers until it has its central bank staffed by people willing to respond to panicking employers requesting support by sending them get well soon cards and care packages of antacids. Traditional measures of competency can take a backseat for a while if necessary in order to find candidates willing to do something awful for the sake of necessity. If there's a fear that suicidal businesspeople will launch themselves at the institution with guns in their hands, put soldiers up around the banks. For you see, the real shock therapy is creating a liquidity shock that makes the currency suddenly something everyone wants again. Make the money scarce.

There is immense demand for currency during hyperinflation. Nobody has "enough". Yet look at it from a different angle: it means nobody wants the amount they have. Hyperinflation does not end when people are given the amount they want, for that reduces yet again the desirability of the amounts people have. Hyperinflation ends when people want the amount they have.

Propagandists who blare about temporary economic adjustments and the vital spirit of a nation are… saying something true, but incompletely understood, whose policy implications are rarely enacted in full. As horrible as the shock of a currency shortage is, businesses that provide real products and services who have treated their employees and partners well enough in the past to earn some loyalty can get through the crunch by issuing IOUs, begging for help from business partners, and crying bitter tears as they continue normal business operations. The people who have stockpiled real resources to continue operations can point that out to others and plead for continuity. In particular, those who produce some good suitable for barter (thus of gaining local currency analogue) and those who have some means of exporting (thus of gaining foreign currency) will tend to be advantaged amidst a currency shortage. There arise winners amidst catastrophe when the catastrophe is acknowledged and aborted by firm actions. Continuing hyperinflation is misery from which all suffer.

Sinking the currency and burning it is also a good option, if people will tolerate emergency taxes and/or there's enough foreign reserves present to give people other kinds of cash in exchange. Try minting metal coins. As much as academics disapprove of specie currency, even they should be able to understand it as an emergency response to hyperinflation. People who are paid in metal will be paid in something whose value will increase in approximate proportion to the depreciation of the currency, thus permitting them to accumulate resources in an environment where the classic store of value (paper money itself) is not functioning.

I am only so afraid to give good advice to bad governments. The whole economy of the world is interlinked. Venezuela's government may be terrible and corrupt, but the poverty and desperation of its people does no favors to the stability and wealth of all.

Also, end the drug war! Farms and chemical factories in destination nations can employ people taking over the work. Let's kill one of Venezuela's last exports so that Venezuelans have to earn foreign reserves doing something more friendly to foreigners than dumping drugs on them. Hah! And look, right now, drugs are the export that all effort is spent stopping, to no avail. Economic sanctions ensure the thriving drug trade as people go to the only people who have real and stable currencies, which ends up being drug dealers shipping project out of the country. This greatly magnifies the influence of drug dealers in source countries.

well, if you think the commies will get the boot low to midterm then you could try to buy real state and wait for them to leave and have the property revalue. But america put some restrictions in doing business with venezuela so you'd need a lawyer to know whether or not what you want to do can be done.


international reserves have been slowly depleting, and hyperinflation is fueled by issuance of new currency every day as well as forex control. Not only that but even though most of the reserves are in gold, it can't be used to mint coins as it has been slowly being shipped offshores (iran iirc).

Up until now the government has made everything it could to trip up businesses, making employees basically unfireable, forex control (which in practice is htey can't import equipment or raw material tow ork with unless using the black market), control on "fair prices" when not directly controlling the price of some products, interventions and even expropriation and plain stock stealing. I doubt you'll make investors look this way without a regime change.

Fuck off faggot

Still after that many years you didn't get it's because of fallen oil prices?. How dumb you can be?. I know, you're anti-communist etc, but even you have to use your brain at some point.

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Oil dropping in value doesn't tank your entire fucking economy to the point where shops are being cleared of food and zoos are being raided.

Yes it does, if it's majority of country income. Search for "dutch disease". And the same gov and policies were there for 20 years, everything worked, why it didn't happen earlier, just by "coincidence" it seems when global oil prices fell?.

Do you even know what that is?. They just have oil, they didn't plan it, they use what they have. 70% of their economy is private sector, complain to them.

At no moment did the Dutch run out of toilet paper, had empty shops and had to feed of zoo animals.

You sudaca commie nigger are talking shit.

Ahahah
It is always the same with communist take overs. The first time they were sliding along on the reserves society did build up before madness stroke.

Can you imagine an government competent enough not to put everything in rent seeking by exploiting a single natural resource?

yeah, surely this is the fault of falling oil prices, retarded macroeconomic policies had nothing to do with it.

jesus christ, chavez basically won the oil lottery, then the lottery "ended" (the oil was still several times what it was when his presidency started) and then everything became worse than it was before by a large margin. Forex control mechanism incentivize leak of capital and the creation of a black market, the same with price control of normal goods, that on top of expropriating utility companies and running them to the ground (corpoelec, hidrocaribe, cantv…). Venezuela has tons of arable land, yet produces less than it did before to the point people are going hungry, a combination of investors leaving, the forex control making it impossible for farmers to get equipment and pesticides and government seizing land or produce has made it a very unattractive affair. The government has over 3 millions of hectares and nothing to show for it.

A short list of businesses expropriated and destroyed by the government:
and there are hundreds, if not thousands more, but I neither know them from memory nor intended to camke this a comprehensive list.

I don't know why leftypol even comes here, as if they could convince anyone who wasn't braindead. It just shows how little they know about how an economy works, and the fact that they can vote threatens everyone in whatever shithole they live in.

and as a reminder, as some people here seem to think of chavez as a nationalist and that only maduro fucked up

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Will it improve the currency status if it is backed by the gold? I don't know if they have gold or not. I just wanted to know if they can actually fix the currency with the gold or other precious metals. They created their own cryptocurrency backed by oil so it's going to be interesting.

Read before posting, dipshit. The cryptocurrency is not redeemable.

This is your brain on non-austian economics

I know that OP was sarcastic

I want cocaine in prices of cofee and cacao! Fuck you statist cuck

Venezuela just has three more zeroes to go before they match zimbabwe

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being this uninformed should be a bannable offense.

BsS started rolling out, these economic policies celebrated as the end of the cash shortage, end of inflation, end of the "economic war", end of the black market dollar, the end of fiscal deficit and probably the end of erectile disfunction worldwide. Reality is people can only get 10BsS in bills, which isn't even enough for a coke and everything is going up in price even faster.


(((uninformed))) more like.

Would going cashless make inflation ignoreable since everything would be automatically adjusted behind the scenes?

And how much further beyond that will it take to pass post-WWII Hungary?

So you admit that everything went south because of oil?

WOW

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Who fucking cares either way? They aren't white, everything they do will be the retarded version of what white people do.

You'd get more use using the Bolivars as TP than the TP. Third World Status Achieved.

They're going to come here.

Actually there isnt a sabe reason on Earth why you cant. A govenment should base the value of its currency on how much the country can produce in a year. Both domestically and for export. The Gold standard is just a big Kike lie to control economies.

7.0 earthquake in Venezuela - they deserved it, cocksuckers.

also a reminder that Chaves did this exact same thing with the change from bolivares to bolivares fuertes

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Can the oilspics outnigger Zimbabwe?

So the government wants to force stores to sell at July's prices, that with 120% inflation last month, with a VAT increase from 12% to 16%, official exchange rate going from less than 300 thousand bsf per dollar to 6 million, and increasing min wage from 5 million to 180 million (plus an unknown extra amount to be paid as food stamps).

Perfect dissected exaple what creates law, order and legitimacy. Armed men. Ancaps should take notice.

There dozens of third world countries that do better than socialists paradise without any fucking oil.

It amazes me how countries like Saudí Arabia that are solely dependant on oil they still haven't got It as bad as Venezuela.

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The only thing they can't fuck up

Let me guess, the nations of the world would be better off if alcohol was banned like cocaine. Do you not trust your fellows to decide for themselves if they wish to risk addiction, and thusly the destruction of the person's life, but must instead bow to your will?
It's far more healthy for a nation to simply tax a drug, like has been done with tobacco and alcohol, and regulate where it can be sold, once again just like tobacco and alcohol.
Yes we would have people openly addicted to these substances, but like me ask you this question.
My answer would be a firm "NO"though I am willing to read your answer, especially if you have a rational reason as to why AA could operate and be as successful as it has been, during Prohibition.

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Due to globalism. You became dependent on jewish customers in America and got fucked by their sanctions.

But, now, everyone is millionaires!
/sarcasm

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Okay, so thanks to European blood in South America, their IQ is relatively higher than niggers, yet they're still just as stupid as niggers. They can build infrastructure to a degree, and have a some semblance of structure in their society, but they can't seem to manage themselves at all. Why is that? What is the factor that they and niggers are missing? What do a people need to build and maintain a modern civilization? Clearly it's something niggers and other shit-skins lack. I wonder what specifically it is though.

IQ

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IQ is meaningless. I want a more precise answer. Gooks have a decently high IQ, apparently, but they still can't manage to create a modern, advanced society like Europeans. Kikes, supposedly, have a high IQ, but they never managed to build a thing throughout their entire history and have lived on the backs of other people their entire existence. There has to be other factors to a peoples intelligence and social evolution that decides whether or not they're able to create and maintain a modern civilization.

They need to start doing child prostitution to reach those levels though.

Nice try shlomo

>>>Zig Forums

Alright fine then.
GENETICS

But what specifically?

The brain is a specialized tool. Genetics determines its abilities and limits, and it is trained through its use. After certain ages, it becomes increasingly difficult for the brain to learn new information. For instance, feral children are unable to learn the semantics of language as adults. There is little that can be done to modernize a tribal or third world adult.

supporting maduro just to spite the jews is a bad move. Telling you from experience the people went to protest because they were tired fo all this shit, having that failed and opposition politicians showing their ineptitude made a lot of people migrate.

You see, latam's left doesn't operate like the left in the usa, the left here uses america as the escape goat for everything, as such, and as, at least on a surface level, it seems like israel is america's (((ally))) whatever anti-israely instance they might have is born out of a knee jerk reaction and not out of morality. Venezuela fell due to atrocious macro economic policies as well as massive corruption (though a left leaning system always easily lends itself to corruption, specially when the government owns hundreds of the most important businesses and even more so when they end up with a monopoly of their respective field).

Unfortunately I'm SURE- there's child prostitution going around, I wouldn't know the figures, because I don't think there's been a real attempt to shed light on this (or maybe there was and I missed it), but I'm sure it unfortunately exists.

Also, I know of people who have both newborn children, as far as I know this isn't done with any malicious intentions and, again, as far as I know, is only done because adopting in venezuela is a massive undertaking. But what happens is that normally a couple 'buys' a baby. What does the process entail? as abortions are banned and means of safe sex are very expensive you end up with a lot of unwanted pregnancies, and we have one of the biggest underage pregnancies rate of the continent. So the process is basically as follows:

I haven't been to linked to medical affairs since 2016, so I don't know how often this happens now that shit has gone so bad but it at the very least used to be a thing not too long ago.

Even shitskins can leave well if you guide them correctly with a strong economy and sense of duty to their people.

Since money is fiat, money's value is simply based on belief in value to a large extent thus money is a meme.

Adding more 0s and 1s will fix anything.

It's a combination of many things.
One part of it is honor.
This is sometimes referred to as a "high trust society," but this is looking at it backwards. It's more like "a society in which high trust is warranted by the high trustworthyness of the population."
Consider how hard it is to create nice things and how easy it is to destroy them. In a high-honor society people police THEMSELVES and do not "wreck" things (crime, theft, cheating, corruption, etc) while working together to build nice things.
Another related element is "having standards." When people hold themselves to high standards then they will work hard and, together with other high-standard people, create a society worth something. This also means "not being a parasite" and carrying one's own weight.
Both of these are based upon genetics and modified to a LIMITED extent by culture.
Obviously average intelligence is also a huge factor.


There was that Columbian sex slavery ring run by israelis that they busted a month or so ago.
They had a bunch of girls, some underage, enslaved into prostitution.

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Absolutely
They can LEAVE WELL
As in GTFO of White countries forever.

columbia and colombia aren't the same thing it triggers my autism when people write colombia wrong.

Anyway, this is a huge problem in venezuela, the government has nurtured a parasite mindset, there needs to be a massive undertakingfor teaching the population that seeking gibs from the government isn't in their own long term self interest. It also doesn't help that the government allowed prisons to be taken by prisoners (pranes), while taking guns from watchmen at the same time they gave guns to the slums while somehow fucking up the judicial system where most crime goes unpunished. in the end I'd say that most theft goes unreported because they don't expect the police to catch the thieves, even if they catch the thieves they don't expect to get their stuff back (and most of all, not without paying the police) or for the thugs to not be sent back out basically immediately, and even if they do get sent to prison they won't be reformed and if thy get sent to a prison with a pran they'll come out much much worse. So at this point basically everything from a societal point of view must be rebuilt.

Any Venezuela anons here who know how messed up is it there?

crime is terrible, economy is shit and becoming worse every single day without hope of it becoming better when the government keeps pulling this shit archive.fo/jdsxv (TL;DR they want to force markets to sell at the prices at "fair prices"). Meanwhile you can still buy stuff cheaper with cash than with wire transfer due tot he fact that there's still too little cash out, understandably after the insane amount of (virtual) money they created.

Also an oil price increase was announced but still nothing is known about it but there's talk about "international prices" and at the current minimum wage, that is based on an illegal cryptocurrency that has its value decreed by the government,not the market, and said value is converted to bolivares also by the government's discretion, is of a measly 30 dollars a month, so you can imagine what would happen to the transportation system, that is already very defective at it just has aging buses, chinese junk (yutong) that there are several cemeteries of, and damages buses that have to wait for spare parts to come from the government as the forex control in practice means you can't legally obtain dollars and paying them in the black market would make having a bus not be profitable as the government controls the fare price.

Who knows, maybe the transportation system will completely collapse in the next few months.

blablabla marxism is great blabla fuck off with this commie shit

It's sanctions. They should have learned to be self-sufficient.

It goes beyond that, José the starving Chimpanzuelan economist.

Maduro has repressed all organic paths for economical recovery, and the government doesn't have any solutions to this growing problem.

The only possible solution was revolution. But it seems that Venezuela's strength as a People hasn't been enough to overthrow tyranny. In this case I would agree with the Bible, in the extent that It claims that each nation deserves its ruler.

Starvation is only effective for inciting revolution when its only a threat, because when it has already occured The People are too weak to fight, and they die a silent and tragic death of hunger in their own beds, hospitals, and cities.

The only means of change right now cannot come from the People, but from big players.

but thats actually genuious, money is nothing but artificial numbers like a vidya game.

Lol
Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, and Singapore are all very advanced societies. It's IQ retard.

It wasn't that the US genocided the natives, it's that England sent men and women to the colonies whereas Spain just sent men who then bred with the natives (to be fair, it was rainforests and shit).

This is all fundamentally wrong though. You need to understand that its never too late to kill leftists. TATP and some shrapnel and severely fuck up the local guard and police patrols. Upon killing or severely maiming them, take their weapons. Same with criminals and leftists in general. These people are oppressing the Venezuelan patriots, and the only way to fight back is to kill them and their families. There is no other way.


The mistake was simply protesting and not actively trying to kill government supporters and enforcers. Its understandable since most patriots aren't mentally at that point yet.


If its at this point than fuck following laws and just start liquidating enemies. If you have enough people helping out, the government can't do shit without risking civil war.

the country had a food supply problem BEFORE the sanctions.


I'm aware, but I'm not expecting an economic recovery under the government that ran an oil rich country to the ground. The good thing is that with an hypothetical regime change I think that a lot of capital will be invested in the country if the right political policies are implemented soon after the change. Unfortunately I think an important part of the population has grown to be gibs nigs and they'd basically vote for a commie so long he is unrelated to maduro.

In all honesty I think we need a pinochet, someone to implement the needed policies and kill the commies that get in the way, soon after there can be a regime transition, I don't care as long as the policies remain unchanged (which happened in chile, the man to come after pinochet kept most policies in place except the helicopter rides).

Unfortunately, I find it hard to see a regime change coming from within either, police seems basically like a dead fish. the military (and specially the big heads, for which there are a lot as we have more generals than america) are, too, in the destruction of the country, profiting from the corruption, so unless an entity they can trust promises to leave them off the hook if they kick maduro out I find this hard happening. And the opposition has little political power now that they only have the congress left (and it appears to me there are plenty of "opposition" deputies, to make matters worse) and a tribunal of justice… in exile….


there has actually been some lynchings in the country. Problem is that has also brought the death of some innocent people, and that's the real problem with extra judicial killings. For example, there was the case of the cook who saw an oldman getting robbed and he went to help him, as he went to the old man (thieves were already leaving) the thieves started yelling that the man was robbing the old man, and the people around started beating up the cook and ended up soaked in gasoline and burned, leaving behind 3 kids.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolás_Maduro

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talking about jews and catholics. Chavez claimed to be a marxist, a catholic and a bolivarian. Even though marx was anti-religion and shit talked bolivar

500 stores fined and arrested 200 persons in the name of the plan "recuperacion economica" (economic recovery) this along with fixing the prices of 25 (already scarce) products, this is how you stimulate production, without a doubt! archive.fo/BBtXs

That's not what fiat currency is retard. Fiat currency's value is defined by law.

The Reichsmark was fiat, but the law that gave its value based the value on work/labor. You don't have to believe in work, and we all know (((you))) don't.

That makes him a sambo not a mestizo. Like all spics, they don't even know how the Spaniards classified them. Mestizo = Spaniard + Aztec; sambo = African + Aztec.

Wetbackniggers are extra dumb.

1 Bolivar = 0.00001500 Bitcoin
1 Bitcoin = 67,248.10 Bolivar

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