Orthodox Jews Standing by President Trump, Only More So These Days

Orthodox Jews Standing by President Trump, Only More So These Days
jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/standing-by-their-man-only-more-so-these-days/

Trump’s Orthodox voters still on board.

Ronald Rubin, an Orthodox professor emeritus of political science at CUNY, reached back three-quarters of a century to Leo Durocher, one of baseball’s great bare-knuckled scrappers, to find a parallel to President Donald Trump. “Nice guys finish last,” snarled Durocher, and no one ever called Trump nice.

“People don’t give Trump enough credit,” Rubin told us. “He knows that the world is a dangerous, provocative place. He believes in strength.”

After a seemingly endless barrage of confrontations and accusations from Trump detractors — regarding issues from Charlottesville to the Southern border to Helsinki — liberal Jews are at the “resistance” barricades, while Orthodox Jews are standing by their man.

“We Orthodox Jews march to a different tune,” Rubin continues. Politically and socially conservative, and cautious, “We understand the tragedy of history. We’ve learned the dangers of naivete. We’ve learnt the need for Jewish power, particularly with Israel.”

The Orthodox are not only standing by Trump, but it appears they are doing so in greater numbers than on Election Day.

In June, an AJC survey found that Trump had a favorability rating of 26 percent among Jews, up from the 19 percent who said they voted for candidate Trump; it stands to reason that the bump-up probably comes from the Orthodox community. “Without question, Orthodox support for Trump has picked up,” said Steven Bayme, AJC’s director of Contemporary Jewish Life and AJC’s institute on Jewish-Israeli relations and an adjunct professor at Yeshivat Chovevei Torah, a Modern Orthodox seminary in Riverdale.

“The Trump administration has been there for the [Orthodox] community’s needs,” said Nathan Diament, executive director of the Orthodox Union’s Advocacy Center. “It starts with his policies toward Israel,” notably the absence of pressure on the Jewish state to make concessions to the Palestinians or to curtail settlement building, “as well as appointing Nikki Haley [as ambassador] to the United Nations, where she has been a tenacious defender of Israel.” In contrast to Trump and Haley, several Orthodox conservatives pointed to the Obama administration’s refusing to veto a 2016 Security Council resolution that denigrated Israel’s access to holy sites and Jerusalem’s Old City.

Trump has gotten high marks for doing what no other president has done: moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

Trump also gets credit, Diament said, for nullifying the Iran nuclear deal, for his support of religious liberty, his conservative judicial appointments and, “at least rhetorically, supporting school choice, which would be helpful to families in day schools.”

Trump isn’t perfect, of course, say some of his Orthodox supporters. Jeffrey Wiesenfeld, a former political aide to Republicans and Democrats (Mayor Koch, Gov. Pataki and Sen. D’Amato), referenced the Trump administration’s family separation policy for arrested illegal immigrants, including asylum seekers, at the Southern border. “Yes, the policy was not carried out with finesse, no question about it,” Wiesenfeld said. The issue lit a fire under liberal groups that cited Jewish values in their opposition; Orthodox groups such as the OU and Agudath Israel condemned the policy as well, though they did so after the OU was criticized, both inside and outside of the Orthodox community, for meeting with Attorney General Jeff Sessions as children were being separated from their parents at the border.

But, added Wiesenfeld, “what’s really detestable is when this gets compared to the Holocaust. The kids are getting proper food and medical care. … The criticism is over the top, just as the Helsinki [summit] criticism was over the top.”

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Trump’s recent summit with Russia saw Trump vehemently criticized by both Republicans and Democrats for siding with Vladimir Putin against the U.S.’s own intelligence community on the matter of Russian interference in the 2016 election. But Orthodox Jews, some of whom tend to be single-issue Israel voters, saw the summit as successful, with both Russia and the United States joining in support for Israel, particularly regarding the Golan Heights and Iran. In the end, said Wiesenfeld, “Trump and Putin were on the same page when it came to keeping Iran and radical Islamists away from Israel’s border.”

Regarding America’s Southern border, Rubin, the CUNY professor, said, “Every country has the right to determine its borders.” Some migrants are seeking political asylum, “but let’s be real,” he said. “No one is running away from Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.” And, he added, despite what liberal Jews argue, not every Democratic political argument is synonymous with “Jewish values.”

When it comes to values and character issues, private lives don’t always match public policies. Just as Democratic politicians, such as President Bill Clinton and the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, had problematic histories with women in their private lives but supported the feminist political agenda, Trump, whose multiple marriages, affairs with porn stars and crude language seems the antithesis of piety, nevertheless has supported the conservative religious agenda as president. Traditional Jews, feeling vulnerable as the social and sexual landscape quakes leftward, are comfortable with Trump’s contempt for political correctness and his appointment of judges with a strict sense of First Amendment religious protections.

“The Modern Orthodox clearly are the most conflicted about Trump,” the AJC’s Bayme said in an email. “In the circles of ‘Open Orthodoxy,’ Trump is quite unpopular, often the target of strong criticism. He embodies the antithesis of how this sector of Modern Orthodoxy perceives itself — urbane, liberal-minded, intellectual and pro-feminist. They approve his policies with respect to Israel but are deeply troubled by his style, rhetoric, and both his domestic and foreign policies.

“In the more conservative (and far more numerous) circles of Centrist or Modern Orthodoxy,” Bayme continues, “Trump’s rather traditional Republican policy agenda, especially his stance on Israel, evokes considerable resonance, again accompanied by ambivalence about him personally.”

There’s less ambivalence about Trump, however, when it comes to the courts. The OU’s Diament told us that although the OU has not yet announced its position on Judge Brett Kavanaugh (President Trump’s pick to replace Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy), as it did when it endorsed Trump’s previous nominee, Neal Gorsuch, the sense is that religious Jews are vigilant that expanding legal rights for some people should not infringe on the rights of religious people, and that the church-state wall should not be higher than the Founders intended.

Unlike liberal Jews who have tried to pin rising anti-Semitism to Trump, Diament praised the administration for pushing back on anti-Semitism, and for “putting its shoulder to the wheel” on religious issues protecting Jews, internationally and domestically.

Fifty percent of Jews think the economy is doing better than a year ago, according to the AJC’s June survey. Like many Orthodox Jews, Larry Spiewak has a multitude of interests. He is the chair of the Council of Jewish Organizations in Flatbush, but also a businessman who recently returned from China. Spiewak is concerned about the impact of Trump’s imposition of tariffs, but he admires the president.

“Trump had the guts to stand up to North Korea; no other president stood up to Iran like he has; no other president had the guts to move the embassy. I’m glad he picked David Friedman as ambassador [to Israel], a very qualified, great guy. And Nikki Haley is the best, absolutely the best. She can get invited to my Shabbos table anytime.”

Even if Trump is not ideal, say many Orthodox voters, where can they go in November? Democrats across the country are turning to progressive candidates such as the 14th Congressional District’s Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Queens, whom Orthodox Jews consider to be naive or hostile about Israel, as are others influenced by Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Wiesenfeld said Trump’s Orthodox support “will not evaporate. If anything, his support will be strengthened,” because he’s fulfilled his campaign promises. “But you will not hear people tell you that. It’s not a good idea in polite company” to say so.

Spiewak summed up his sense of the Orthodox community succinctly: “Whoever voted for Trump will vote for him again.”

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Keep it going, lads. Porn is the key to topple this heap of degeneracy

FUCK YOU LARP-user

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Who invited TRS?

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I love these threads. The greatest catch 22 for the kikes is watching their narrative collapse in realtime in spaces they can't control by conventional means. Do they use the standard tactics of shilling, d&c, derailing, and purity spiraling giving out the signal that we're on target or sit their with their dicks in their hands watching it all go to shit pouring over with impotent rage? They seem to have chosen option number one, as always.

Post something with substance you fucking retard, you're the only one impotently raging over your kosher president being called out for what he is while you insist anons pay attention to porn.

>hate on trump 24/7 on (((mainstream media))) and portray him as an antisemitic white nationalist
I'll take Jews play both sides for $200, Alex

Thanks for the chuckles

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Direct democracy is the only way to beat the 1%. They can't bribe 51% of the people on every issue.

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S E E T H I N G
cmon good boy, gimme that (you)

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OK, let me explain what Trump is doing, OK? Trump is feeding the PRE-EXISTING FRACTURE in kike world. Essentially, the more (((modern))) kikes are barely even practicing. Like, on Saturday, maybe they fucking go to synagogue or something. Maybe. They hit the big hols. They may not eat pork. That's pretty much it, except for shilling for kike causes. They detest the orthodox, for two reasons. First, the orthodox actually bother doing the stuff kikes are supposed to do, and, as such, have a greater claim to truer kike-ness. And secondly, because they are big fucking welfare queens in kike land.

So Trump has shrewdly sided with the faction that was available, and by its nature at odds with the liberals (they are the ones who quit getting killed when they put up the sandnigger wall in kike land.

eh. Trump wasn't anti-Israel before he got elected. He was unabashedly a support of kike land. The main thing Trump does for us is line our pockets with gold, that we may, through shrewd investment and social promulgation, achieve a state which 1488 - 14, that we might, being ourselves, white, our communities being white, preserve ourselves, generate the structures of trust, command, survival (that is, to retake the churches for anti-kike, anti-circumcision, without their leaven).

So, you bash trump. Here. Here in the heart of right-wing, deeeeeep right-wing territory. And you bash trump. I say you're a marxist kike promoting a feeling of hopelessness, as is your duty, for literal soros coin.

1488

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Like clockwork.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, only shills and 90 IQ people obsess over defending or attacking Trump. He is not one of us and never was, he does things things that help our cause and things that hurt our cause. Anyone that finds a need to attack or defend Trump is actively furthering D&C efforts.

Remember to sage.

ok.
sage.

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A kike lover has a cadre of kikes in support of him. In other news, water is wet.

Switzerland has forms of direct democracy, and the kikes there still subvert it. Same with California with its propositions.

they use judges to deal with any propositions that don't go their way.

< Vote for Hillary or kill yourself!
t. CIA buttfucker

Exactly, that's what makes the whole thing a farce.

bump

• 2018
• Still thinking in a partisan box
You have much to learn.

< vote for Hillary, goyim.

Jej, you rapist of children are all the same.

See

Checked.

So uh. When is there going to be the option to vote straight Nazi? Maybe I just didn't see the option on my last ballot.

You can't vote your way out of white genocide. There is no political solution.

Look at all the angry Libtards and Mudslimes in this thread. They absolutely cannot stand the fact that President Trump is making America and Israel great again.

Nice try, JIDF.

Can't find anything else but to reduce on posting old articles. You're losing your steam, OP.

It really doesn't matter what your average useful idiot jew thinks of Trump. What matters is that Rothschild lost China. The carefully crafted Hillary v Putin battle was ruined by Trump who wants to be best buddies with Putin for muh economy. Rothschild can't do shit now except wait and hope for a pedo to take Xi's place soon.

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< goy, you don't need fucking cash in your pocket
< vote Hillary, let me have it all

The real reason why Trump winning was a victory, even if he's a "kike shill". A lot of shit fell apart for (((the international market))) when he won.

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>A lot of shit fell apart for (((the international market))) when he won.

Bottom Line for Davos Elite: Trump Is Good for Business
nytimes.com/2018/01/24/business/trump-davos-follow-the-money.html

Trump Wins Over Global Elites At Davos. All It Took Was A $1.5 Trillion Tax Cut.
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Henry Kissinger Pushed Trump to Work With Russia to Box In China
thedailybeast.com/henry-kissinger-pushed-trump-to-work-with-russia-to-box-in-china
The former secretary of state pushed one president to use China to isolate the Soviet Union. These days, he’s counseling almost the reverse—and officials are listening.

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I bet the plan is for both countries to figure out a way to make more niggers faster.

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>>hate on trump 24/7 on (((mainstream media))) and portray him as an antisemitic white nationalist >post on Zig Forums how associated trump is with jews I'll take Jews play both sides for $200, Alex

Somebody elaborate on this piece of truth. It has confused me when I noticed it too. I don't know what to think.

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Is that why he keeps pardoning Jewish finance criminals?

slidethread

>Essentially, the more (((modern))) kikes are barely even practicing. Like, on Saturday, maybe they fucking go to synagogue or something.

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WTF I LOVE HILLARY AND THE DEMOCRATS NOW
Seriously, the shills are so fucking transparent that I don't even mind bumping this shit to call you out. I'll rescue anything good from the bottom of the catalog later today to make up for it.

Don't the majority of orthodox always vote Republican anyway though?

Trump was bailed out by the Rothschilds, and his commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, worked for Rothschild Inc. His daughter Yael was also romantically connected to the demonic Nat Rothschild.

Trump is the most blatant Rothschild puppet in recent history, pilpulling doesn't change that.

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Bringing up a kike candidate every time (((Trump))) does something doesn't change anything, we only have to deal with him now

Put your money where your mouth is.

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Muh purity spiral.
>>>/TRS/

post proof. if this were true then why would it not be spouted more. instead we have the typical deliberate retardation of both sides (could be more sides but obviously they want two because that's easier to manage) to stifle discussion on the most central part of modern politics.

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Trump is also tied to the Rothschilds and other high-level kikery through Resorts International:


archive.is/JoLrz

yep. Shadilay, my brother. Shadiley.


So you're saying you truth the New York Times and The Washington Post.

Well I don't. What the fuck are you, anyhow?


Wait, you also trust the Daily Beast?!

What the fuck ARE you?!


One, there was one. And it wasn't a pardon. And the answer is quite simple. Kikes control the world. There is no non-kiked existence. Consider your own penis. It was kiked by kike baby sexual torture and kike baby sexual mutilation. Yet you demand others exist in this world without the taint of kikes. But your own member is tainted forever by kikes. So even you yourself at your core cannot escape them. The answer lies in the marks upon your own body.

Yep.


< it's not possible to attack the kikes
gas yourself.

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the very next sentence

well, at least you're honest about it albeit ironic as fuck

< vote for Hillary, goyim
< because Trump has connections to kikes
But your own penis is circumcised, which is against Christianity, but is at the direction of kike physicians, and their system of social power. So we could just as well say you cannot be listened to, because you have a kiked penis.

But kike power is great, and they command all the world, and yet you refuse to acknowledge the truth of it.

To exist as a human in this world you must do deals with the kikes, the ones who possess everything. You deny this, though your own penis bears the mark of the kike.

How the fuck is this thread even still up? I thought we had good mods now.

The truth is that the kikes don't get it. Trump doesn't really need the hard right now. He has enough money & power and so on. So I find it amusing that they think they shall gain something by influencing our opinion.

Yes, during the election we were his personal army, but he now can raise a real fucking army of shills, and he doesn't need us, and, frankly, we aren't going to be shilling against him, because the alternative is outright poverty, because the Dems are literally communists now.

That's why the recovery waited for a Republican: the dems are too spendy. If they were only half as spendy they would have gotten away with it, but they aren't, and they are doubling down, they want more and more and more money.

Trump, like all the boomers, is blue pilled on the kike, though he's aware, to some degree, of the risks involved.


No, it's even worse now.

He really looked promising up until about January. I feel like the "Time's Up" event (Time Disposal mass assassination attempt) shook him. Trump had to make a deal with the devil, that's why we got Bolton soon after, thats why we got "Anti-Assad Trump" right after, that's why we signed an absurd budget to be sent to Israel right after.

Trump made a deal with the devil to survive his first term. I just hope hes the master of the deal that he claims to be.

explain? with sources? never heard of this

We aren't fucking hoping for him to ace this shit. The point of Trump is to chock the wheels of Communism.

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No, they definitely want the hard right to know - they posted it here, the kikes did. It's all about managing perceptions. By knowing how people think, you can hack them, pretext them.

That's what the kike does. They create the perceptions to drive their agenda. Here, they want Trump out of the way. So they tell those on the hard right what they would need to think in order to be anti-Trump.

It's quite simple, actually, once you understand they are willing to lie all the time. A lie for group X will differ from the lies told to group Y…

The election was two years ago, you're going to have to come up with something better.

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Pic related. You see, the kikes would pick on aspects of imperfection, that they might have their way.

They say, "we own all of them, goyim", which is somewhat true, since kikes control all of finance and of course the press.

But Hillary would put the white man in the poor house. Here's the kike soul, in his own words.

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I am just an naive peasant, please someone explain to me why President Donald Trump sends billions of American tax dollars to Israel, annually.

It isn't "somewhat true", its' the truth, and it has been for at least the past century. Pic related was published in American National Socialist newspaper affiliated with Der Sturmer in the mid-1930s.

There's no excuse for falling for that charade almost 90 years later.

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How many more of these filterbait threads you doing? I can't be filtering you jewish fucktards all fucking night, I got shit to do.

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But voting isn't falling for their charade. Again, the vitality of man is in his:
1. life
2. liberty
3. property

And also in his loves.

But you say to me, vote for Hillary, or even, "allow Hillary to be elected, by failing to vote in favor of the white man". And I say to you, how can you be distinguished from a literal cancer that eats away a limb?

JIDF is operating here.

They're playing you, too. Tell me, what do you think of when you hear the word "pedophile"?

I think of a society which permits circumcision. I think of all the supposedly nice church ladies who allowed their little babies to be sexually tortured and sexually mutilated, in compliance with a near universal social/cultural practice.

You still don't get it, if the jews really wanted Hillary to win, she would have. Thinking you have a say in the matter is falling for the charade.

No, it's not like that. Elections still exist, and I can prove this.

See, when kikes spend MILLIONS OF THEIR OWN CASH on elections, you know they're not just doing it to keep a charade alive.

Therefore, we can be certain elections still function, to some degree.

But you didn't read my image. Are you really so kiked in the head that you can't read?! What a fool!

I thought these kikes were against israel?

Ultimately, between voter fraud, the media, and everything else, Trump wouldn't be president right now if the most powerful kikes didn't want him to be.

The logic seems sound? Money for Whites is actually 4D chess against White people, the same way Trump doing everything Israel wants is secretly hurting the jews somehow.


No, that's a small fringe sect. Most orthodox kikes are zionists, they're also the most dedicated to the Talmud.

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Wtf IM a Hilldawg now

#FeelTheBern

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FUCK OFF SHAREBLUE

It's been like this since the election. Every time someone points out how Trump double-crossed us, the Trumpbots sit up in their chairs, put on their crystal-embellished yarmulkes and frantically flood the thread with jingoistic shit like "Wtf IM a Hilldawg now, #FeelTheBern". If they sound like broken records, it's because they are out of ideas and out of arguments. God has forsaken them.

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There's no evidence of substantial aid to Trump from kikes, though there were slight and utterly dull examples.

Shortly, your (((fallacy))) is (((hasty conclusion))).

But really you're just a kike, who coats all poison with pills you think suit those you think are stupid enough to believe you.

Curse yahweh, curse yidsrael. Curse your mother.

< Hillary was anti-Israel

Get a load of this kike.

Kike alert!

No one is claiming to be hillary supporters you dumb fuck at best Zig Forums is fascist/natsoc supporters which is why so many of us support patrick little.

Things would have continued as they are if Hillary was president. They're both kike puppets.

But…

… you're shilling for Hillary…

… so…

…so clearly you wanted something Hillary could give you ha ha ha ha ha ha ha fool!

You kikes only say that because you believe him to have absolutely no chance. 8^)

We are going to expel all of you.

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