R/K selection and Europe's fertility issue

So, it is no secret that Europe is facing a demographic issue. Not a single country in the European Union has a birth rate of 2.15 or over, which is the bare minimum for a stable population. This can be attributed to many factors, such as wealth and a level of comfortability that the Western economic increases have granted to the citizens of the west. Additionally, the Irish Times has stated the following in their article "Why is Europe losing the will to breed?" (irishtimes.com/news/science/why-is-europe-losing-the-will-to-breed-1.2644169)

"Apart from the social pressures that depress birth rates, our civilisation is also under internal assault from postmodern intellectual elites and their acolytes in the mass media, who enthusiastically embrace moral and cultural relativism, multiculturalism and political correctness and attack our values and weaken our will. We must repulse these attacks, regain our confidence and boost birth rates back up to replacement rates."

Another newspaper, particularly Forbes, has released an article titled "What's Really Behind Europe's Decline? It's The Birth Rates, Stupid" (forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2012/05/30/whats-really-behind-europes-decline-its-the-birth-rates-stupid/#3a7a33a3267c)

In said article, the editor noted the following: "A generation ago Spain was just coming out of its Francoist era, a strongly Catholic country with among the highest birth rates in Europe, with the average woman producing almost four children in 1960 and nearly three as late as 1975-1976. There was, he notes, “no divorce, no contraception allowed.” By the 1980s many things changed much for the better better, as young Spaniards became educated, economic opportunities opened for women expanded and political liberty became entrenched.

Yet modernization exacted its social cost. The institution of the family, once dominant in Spain, lost its primacy. “Priorities for most young and middle-aged women (and men) are career, building wealth, buying a house, having fun, travelling, not incurring in the burden of many children,” observes Macarron. Many, like their northern European counterparts, dismissed marriage altogether; although the population is higher than it was in 1975, the number of marriages has declined from 270,000 to 170,000 annually.

Now Spain, like much of the EU, faces the demographic consequences. The results have been transformative. In a half century Spain’s fertility rate has fallen more than 50% to 1.4 children per female, one of the lowest not only in Europe, but also the world and well below the 2.1 rate necessary simply to replace the current population. More recently the rate has dropped further at least 5 percent."

Indeed, the above mentioned articles do a good job of explaining the low birth rates and the suspected reasons for them, and sadly, the future of our continent is looking rather bleak, as shown in the second image, Wikipedia's demographic predictions for 2080.

This brings a whole separate discussion of how to deal with the issue. (((Some))) point to more (((immigration))) and (((integration))), others call for a return to old-school values and incentivising natural reproduction and rebuilding of demographics, and if the latter were to succeed and Europe would have a generation willing to reproduce, we'd come to the question of the r/K reproductive selection. Which would be better for such a shattered society? Would it be to try to 'boom' the population back to a stable level and try to maintain it through the sheer strength of numbers, like would have happened in the past with massive families, or should white societies focus on breeding the best of the best and slowly revitalise the broken demographics?

Another question is of racial purity. Obviously, I think we can all agree that Aryans possess perhaps the most beautiful combination of features, both in terms of colour and physical appearance overall. Therefore we must ask ourselves whether it would be smarter to keep a relatively fragile but pure population of true Aryans, or would it be smarter to future-proof the white population by spreading the Aryan genes across Europe not only to secure its existence in the case of a genocide the likes of which we are seeing in Germany at the moment, with the Greens celebrating the extinction of the German race, but also in an attempt to Aryanise other areas of the world, such as the Slavic European East, and the Iberian and Latin south.

I, myself, don't have the answers to these questions, so I'd like to see a discussion on the issue, and hope we can come to agreeable conclusions.

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The only issue is for financial and economic autists that make projections for the future based on a relatively fixed population growth. Populations go through booms and rapid declines. Trying to manage this 'problem' via policy is disastrous.

Take a modern western nation, put it in isolation from the rest of the world for a thought experiment. Population is declining, in part, because of certain economic barriers to having kids, like the cost of housing, debts from education, the difficulty in competition from getting a new successful career, women prioritizing study and career during their most fertile years, the costs of living involved deterring single provider households, and so on.

So what if the population declines over the next generation? Sure, the kikes and politicians hate it, but the 'problem' is self correcting. Because there is less people buying houses, house prices fall. Less people entering the work force means less competition for high paying jobs, because employers need to incentivize staff or lose them. More money in the hands of young people means they have a higher standard of living and can more easily afford kids. Suddenly the population rises.

Only nations don't exist in isolation. (((Multinationals))) have figured they can rely on importing population to drive down wages and inflate house prices. The generation that would have had things a lot easier is now having to fight for scraps with shitskins.

There is more to the story than that, especially in the realm of demoralization, cultural marxism and globalism, but you wanted a discussion.

Daily reminder that Anonymous Cuckservative, who wrote the r/K selection book, is a Qcumber, meaning he's either mentally retarded or a conman.

Fair enough, I never actually considered the incentive for multinationals to play a role in all of this, but it does make sense now that you mention it. They either lobby, buy out politicians or simply work with powerful institutions through common interest.

Thing is, society is pretty much hooked up on international corporations. Everybody has a phone manufactured in China, a car built in Germany etc. which have been made affordable by the exploitation of workforce in developing areas, and now people are so used to having these affordable commodities, that if, say, a party like the National Socialists came to power in a western nation, and put forth policies geared towards restoration and building of a national infrastructure and creation of national businesses in order to build up the economy, they would have to block out influence of multinationals to allow small businesses to take their baby steps in a much less vicious environment of relentless aggression and competition, and dirty business tactics. Now, if multinational corporation influence was to be curbed, we can only imagine what effect it would have on our modern, largely cosmopolitan society would be completely shocked and could go into chaos.

Man, these decades of subversion and foreign influence have really rendered our societies so dependent on the very thing that is harming them, it would be like suddenly taking the needle away from someone who is hooked on meth 24/7

Look at how populations behave in nature. There is a called the resource rush. You can observe it, in a form, in human behavior, with things like gold rushes and popular fads, but it occurs all across life. When resources are plentiful, populations increase, when they are scarce, populations fall. Common sense, right?

It doesn't mean competition is bad. Competition means that the best, in general, will thrive, or at least live long enough to pass on their genes. That expansion and whittling down of the population over time is what drives evolution.

The world population is in an expansion mode right now. It's not a matter of if that population expansion will fall, just a matter of when and how. Technology buys time. Central planning might buy some time. Foreign aid and wealth redistribution might buy some time. Resource depletion is a certainty, the only debate is the time line. War, pandemic, natural disaster or some exogenous threat like an asteroid might cause rapid population decline.

Anyone selling the infinite growth meme is part of the problem. We're not even off the planet and harvesting the resources of our solar system yet. If whites go extinct, that will never happen.

Maybe my thinking is too Malthusian. Don't take my word for any of this. Maybe it's all part of the 'plan.' Be it Kalergi or Agenda 21. A scarier thought is that the planners aren't thinking ahead at all. That they're just incompetent, short sighted and opportunistic kikes.

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Jews only think two steps ahead.

It won't come to that. Don't worry.

We don't. Of course K selection is superior, and would be a natural rebound from the insane r selection that welfare leads to in practice.

This is obviously the correct choice. We just need kids. Eugenics can come later.

Why is the race that built the nuclear bomb "fragile". We can literally nuke a nigger race out of existence to prove a point.

This is racemixing and essentially what the jews wants us to do: destroy our superiority that only our unique genetic composition has afforded us.

To add to your point of importing shitskins: they also do it so that they can keep the consumerist economy going. Foreigners show up with 0 debt to their name, while the average western citizen is born with 40k in the hole. They're trying to avoid debt saturation.

Its still a good book and required reading, schlomo.

So just build your own factory lmao.

National Socialism will not rise (((democratically))) this time around fam. It's going to come after the collapse of the financial system. When people don't have shit they won't be too picky about their phones either.

The world is sick, and we are the doctors.

Nah that's just the right level of blackpill that you're at fam. Just get a farm, a cute wife, have 6 kids, and surf the Kali Yuga.

I don't think they are tbh.

This is most likely the case. For however evil their parents and grandparents were, at least they had a telos and a goal. These new ones are just neurotic nutcases on a genocidal road and their spoiled upbringing coupled with being the second generation of taking their destination for granted will be their downfall. Vox Day claims that Soros has reflected that he has failed in his plan, and I would believe that since he is old enough to understand. He is of that older genocidal stock. The new 30 year old anti-whites haven't got a clue anymore.

But we will prevail, we always have. Heil Hitler!

That's the plan. Got the farm, just need to better myself and find a decent woman.

I wish you the best of luck user

The first two (((world wars))) was aside from its primary goals, a great dysgenic initiative. The most able-bodied and bright men (smart men make for smart fighters) slaughtering each other, is the main reason why we're facing this problem. Nu-males should be a rare sight but instead they're our peers, and poor peers lead to demoralization among other things.

The silver lining to this is that low birth rates don't accurately display how nu-males are growing accustomed to living out their childish fantasies and rarely breed. As long as real men are led to having families, the proportion of real men to nu-males should normalize back to where nu-males are rare.

I had a startling realization quite recently where nu-males and their feminist counterparts will eventually be a population of elderly wastes that no one wants to care for. Childless adult-children that brought nothing of value to this world will cause retirement homes to surge and then fall once they're all dead. They'll soon be relics of jewish infantalization.