Antifeminism containment thread

Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

Stop shitting up other threads and make your arguments for or against antifeminism here you chucklefucks

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Kevin Young
Kevin Young

Urban dictionary to the rescue, once again (LOL). urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chucklefuck

Christopher Perry
Christopher Perry

The feminism containment thread already exists to contain anti feminist incel retards too.
Reported.

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

Antifeminism isn't just about being against feminism. It's also about hating women and about lowering the board quality by derailing threads on completely unrelated topics.

Noah Davis
Noah Davis

Antifeminism isn't about being against feminism it's about misogyny as well.
Ok buddy.

Jackson Ramirez
Jackson Ramirez

Why are you pretending to speak for all antifeminists?

David Ortiz
David Ortiz

I'm not 04 apparently is. That's why the greentext is there.

Brody Gonzalez
Brody Gonzalez

*664

Jayden Wood
Jayden Wood

Yeah, you're saying he can't be an antifeminist if those are his reasons.
That's literally gatekeeping.
Why are you doing that? Who died and made you the antifeminist leader?

William Watson
William Watson

Misogyny isn't anti feminism.

Colton Cox
Colton Cox

Why are you pretending to speak for all antifeminists?
You're saying you can't be antifeminist and misogynist.
You're clearly a woman and a feminist trying to ruin the thread and make Antifeminism look bad.
Fucking whore.

Joseph Sullivan
Joseph Sullivan

I'm not a woman, I'm saying you can be antifeminist and not misogynist.
If you want to be misogynist and antifeminist then okay but some of us aren't since feminism has a million more aspects than just "Rights for women." 664 was the one speaking for all anti feminists by accusing us of being "Woman hates who shit up the board" as well. At this point you'd have to be shitposting if you can't see that.

John Reyes
John Reyes

*Woman haters

Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed

You're the only one ITT crying about "muh soggy knees" bitch
You're trying to make us look bad by saying we capitulate to women
It's not going to work
Feminism doesn't work
We tried to let women vote and be people and make decisions for themselves and it failed

inb4 real feminism hasn't been tried yet

Maybe you'd feel more comfortable on Twitter, slut. This isn't a website for women.

Matthew Green
Matthew Green

Nigger are you fucking deaf blind and retarded?
You're trying to make us look bad by saying we capitulate to women
Never brought that up.
Feminism doesn't work
Agreed.
We tried to let women vote and be people and make decisions for themselves and it failed
Fully agreed.
Still calls me a woman.
I'm literally not and if I were I'd probably be more masculine than you since I'm not as retarded or insecure over what I'm arguing about. Although you did mention Twitter so why not go there since apparently you know it's a website for women. Go back.

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David Johnson
David Johnson

enters thread about antifemism to insult antifeminists and make us look bad
not a woman
Even if you have a penis, you might as well be a woman since you sound exactly like a whiny bitch
Go make me a sandwich, cumguzzler

Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

enters thread about antifemism to insult antifeminists and make us look bad
Holy shit you can't be this much of a fucking idiot.
Read what said and tell me what you think he was saying.
you might as well be a woman since you sound exactly like a whiny bitch
He said being the whiniest bitch in the thread.
I bet even a woman would have a bigger clit than whatever you call your cock since right now you're the biggest cunt in the thread.

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

This isn't your safe space sweatie
We don't need your triggered tantrums
If you want to promote feminism and talk shit about antifemnists or wave your vagina around go do it on twatter
This thread is for real men only
Tits or gtfo

Samuel Lopez
Samuel Lopez

Post your dick to prove you're a guy then faggot, go ahead and validate your masculinity before you try validating mine, if not I don't need to enter a dick measuring contest with someone who doesn't even have a dick.

Nicholas Stewart
Nicholas Stewart

You're asking to see my penis just like a woman would.
I knew you were just some dumb bitch.
Did you really think you could outsmart a man with your little girly brain?

Charles Wood
Charles Wood

Also hold on
Sweatie
Literally no one but shitposting teenagers on /tv/ or actual women have actually used that word.
If you want a dick measuring contest I'll give you one, unless of course you're too much of a chicken, or an actual woman behind that screen faggot.

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

Listen up you dumb thot
You only get the dick when I say so
What you say doesn't matter
You only exist to please men, so no one gives a shit what you think
Now shut the fuck up and sit down quietly like a good girl before a man has to put you in your place

Carson Miller
Carson Miller

He's still deflecting the challenge.
Lmao okay I'll level it down for you, post your arm size with a time stamp. It should be at least 18 inches before you can even be considered a man right? You can crop out your face, just do it to prove you're actually a man and not a woman pretending to have a enlarged clit like you have all thread.

Camden Anderson
Camden Anderson

There is a thread for this already Argue about this shit there.

gatekeeping
sweatie

/go/index.html
/back/index.html
/to/index.html
/reddit/index.html

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Nathan Baker
Nathan Baker

Only a hopeless thot only good for taking cocks would believe the only difference between a man and a woman is skin deep
How about to rotate some three dimensional shapes for me to prove you're a real man? Or you could always just post your tits for me bb

This bored is not for triggered feminists like yourself
Did you misclick on your way to /safespace/?

Andrew Perez
Andrew Perez

didn't even try crossboard linking.
still deflecting like women do instead of proving he's a man, the equivalent of being called a virgin by women online.
Anyday pal.

Colton Ramirez
Colton Ramirez

I don't give my dick to just any diseased thirsty slut on the internet
If you need some dick there are plenty of men out there for you bb
I'm still waiting on those tits, you dirty whore

Landon Rivera
Landon Rivera

You don't give your dick to anyone because you don't have one.

Blake Murphy
Blake Murphy

thots thosts fucking thots!
Actual incels don't talk like this, OP. Protip: If you want to do a convincing false flag you have to learn how to realistically imitate people.

Thomas Nelson
Thomas Nelson

What's wrong feminist? TRIGGERED?
Maybe you got hit in thot patrol?

That's rich coming from a pinkhaired feminist apologist with milky cow tits

Blake Powell
Blake Powell

Still haven't proven you're a guy bud and quite frankly I don't have all day like you probably do, being a woman or effeminate dickless tranny so you get to sit on the computer all day. Men actually need to go out to work.

Kevin King
Kevin King

What's with all the penis envy baby? I'll be back to fuck you real good tonight if you just learn to talk less and have my lunch ready before I wake up.
Surely you're capable of doing what you're told without forcing a man to slap you around a bit right?

Carson Baker
Carson Baker

trusting a woman to cook for you
This is how I know you're a woman pretending to be an incel.

Caleb Rogers
Caleb Rogers

projecting this hard
Only women tip their hands like this. It's how I know you're the type that can't keep your mouth or your legs shut too
Didn't you have to go to work, stupid bitch? Or did you just have to tell daddy to have a good day?

Kayden Walker
Kayden Walker

It's been 5 minutes since I said I had to go to work retard. But you're right I do need to go soon.
projecting.
Nice buzzword there dipshit.

Jace Rodriguez
Jace Rodriguez

I hope that this thread is a ban trap.

Carson Davis
Carson Davis

Cry moar my little pussy bitch
I know it's making you wet since you keep replying
Don't forget the timestamp

Daniel Parker
Daniel Parker

I actually need to go now but I don't want to leave anything unresolved so here's a old photo of my cock. Literally all you had to do and you still couldn't because you're a woman pretending to be male. Don't worry though Fem user one day you'll be able to get through your gender dysphoria just not here. Go back to your friends at Twitter since you apparently know that's where women go online.

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Charles Lewis
Charles Lewis

she actually posted a dick
wow, so this is the power of the female mind

Nicholas Davis
Nicholas Davis

I followed through while you still haven't.
That's bad.
Ok bud.
Hey mods can we ban this guy if he doesn't follow through? He's starting to annoy me.

Sebastian Murphy
Sebastian Murphy

Either way I need to go now so have a nice day Ma'am.

Gabriel Thompson
Gabriel Thompson

Look bitch, if you want some of this dick you're going to have to work on your etiquette.
I don't send dick picks to slovenly whorish landwhales who post other people's dicks without their permission.

Carter Lee
Carter Lee

ITT

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Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

Antifeminism is not a troll weak Mom

Chase Bennett
Chase Bennett

culture war thread
<40 replies in a few hours
theory threads
<lucky to get over 25 posts, most are shit anyways
chans were a mistake

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Thomas Lewis
Thomas Lewis

I dislike this thread
better contribute to it

Jaxson Campbell
Jaxson Campbell

It's mostly two people, and sage next time you reply, fuckers. Don't keep bumping the thread to the front.

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Samuel Roberts
Samuel Roberts

t. feminist subversive

Ryan Kelly
Ryan Kelly

Why no pp touch
:(

Hudson Price
Hudson Price

feminazi gets triggered Zig Forums gives the middle finger to idpol.

You're lucky mods are anything but that. All idpol threads should be deleted and their creators banhammered.

Sage this already.

Evan Murphy
Evan Murphy

Age lol

Jordan Adams
Jordan Adams

Why do people keep sageing my threads???

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

I need feminism because age of consent laws and harassment of sex workers deny and suppress the agency of women and girls.

Robert Campbell
Robert Campbell

if you are the one who screencapped that incel dont ever hide them. always expose them thanks.

incels will be gulaged, literal psychos dont belong in fair society

Ethan Williams
Ethan Williams

It's also about hating women
anti-feminists on /pol/ are misogynists. Anti-feminists on Zig Forums are egalitarians who realize that supporting gender equality makes you anti-feminist.

Isaiah Evans
Isaiah Evans

who realize that supporting gender equality makes you anti-feminist.
LOL go back to whichever internet shithole you crawled out of.

Levi Ross
Levi Ross

Feminism pretty broadly denies the agency of women and reduces them to objects. Any time someone tries to discuss what actions a woman might take some liberal feminist screeches about victim blaming, as if being a victim necessarily makes a person blameless. The idea that being victimized necessarily removes a person's agency is one of the most hateful ideas imaginable to me, and reinforces the dynamic of "oppression" by telling someone they have no power to do anything about the bad stuff happening to them. It's exactly the kind of shit a would-be rapist says to intimidate the intended victim into compliance.

Ayden Torres
Ayden Torres

all feminism is liberal feminism

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Angel Gonzalez
Angel Gonzalez

There does not seem to be any difference between socialst feminist theory and liberal feminist theory. All forms of feminism seem to have the same suspect underpinnings. Differentiate between socialist feminist theory and bourgeois feminist theory, and don't just say that one wants socialism and the other doesn't. Where does the theory diverge?

Alexander Jenkins
Alexander Jenkins

all feminism is either socialist or liberal feminism
Why opine about topics you don't even have a basic familiarity with?
Is outing yourself as the dumb guy your hobby or something?

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Owen Rivera
Owen Rivera

And an angry deflection. Of course. I would be disappointed, but my expectations were already low.

Oliver Rivera
Oliver Rivera

Yep, that was anger. I'm definitely not laughing at you, Mr galaxybrain.
Why should you have high expectations when our society neglects your special needs and no one bothers to spoonfeed you?
I wouldn't expect much help reading wikipedia if I were you either.

Here's a starting point though, since I'm not a monster that wants to see you put in an oven like your Nazi friends.

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism

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Gabriel Jenkins
Gabriel Jenkins

The difference between liberal feminism and marxist feminism is that the latter butchers class analysis by declaring the nuclear family a feudal society where the man-wage-laborer is a lord and the woman-homemaker is a peasant, even though it's the wage paid to the man for his labor that sustains the house, which is completely different from the economic basis of lordship. It's idealist analysis based on the rhetoric surrounding the nuclear family rather than examining the material relationship.

There are relevant points in marxist feminism, like the dependence of women on men, but most of it is largely irrelevant now, but it has always ignored the fact that supporting a family on a single income is a privilege. Poor working class families had the women working too. And the children, let's not forget.

Isaac Howard
Isaac Howard

fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u
everyone who does not immediately accept my argument as is without any explaination or stated rationale is a nazi
wikipedia link
Wow, yeah, you're so different from liberal feminists.

Asher Robinson
Asher Robinson

Facts don't care about your feelings

I will never read Engels

Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

Do you have a counterargument or are you just going to appeal to authority?

Aaron Allen
Aaron Allen

Facts don't care about your feelings
That doesn't even apply to this discussion.

Andrew Mitchell
Andrew Mitchell

I'm sorry you feel that way

Arguments without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

Liam Flores
Liam Flores

<Hey, Mr. Left-Communist, what makes you different from Leninists?
We left-communists reject opportunist adventures as being idealist in nature and thus doomed to failure. The contradictions of capitalism must become fatal before bpurgeois class rule can be dismantled.

<Hey, Mr. Ancom, what makes you different from ancaps?
We recognize that capitalism requires a state to function and, as such, there can be no capitalism without a state. We are also materialists whereas those halfwits are idealists. This means… (long speech)

<Hey, Mr. Nazbol, what's the difference between you and nazis?
Our memes are dank, and their memes stank.

<Hey, Mr. Socialist Feminist, what's the difference between you and bourgeois feminists?
Fuck you, you stupid nazi! REEEEEEEEEEE!

Joseph Jackson
Joseph Jackson

Arguments without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
So are you denying the central thesis of marxist feminism while also defending it as important?

Cooper Reed
Cooper Reed

<hey Mr. Flag, what makes you different from Mr. Flag?
We make sweeping generalizations based on our limited knowledge and tribalisms

That's an interesting way to indicate you don't understand where you are in the discussion anymore

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

I don't have a response to a specific question, what's the vaguest thing I can say to assert dominance?
If you can't either defend marxist feminism or correct why the given description is wrong, you dno't have an argument here.

Leo Smith
Leo Smith

things that I say are true until someone proves they aren't
So how long have you been fucking your underage dog?

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

things that I say are true until someone proves they aren't
Don't bring up a topic if all you're going to do is say another person's definition is wrong while never providing your own definition. You're the one saying it's true that Marxist feminism is good and we have to agree until you're proven wrong, then ignoring all criticism.

Jackson Rodriguez
Jackson Rodriguez

Can you cite where I said that? It should be pretty easy, since all you need to do is scroll up.
Or are you completely full of shit or something?

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

Feminists are the only ideologues I know who get upset when asked to explain their ideologies. People generally jump at the opportunity to talk about their respective passions, but for whatever reason feminists refuse to subject their own views to criticism. It is like they know that it does not stand up under critical examination and so hide it away while calling everyone who doesn't profess devotion to it nazis.

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Cooper Reyes
Cooper Reyes

Ok I'll point it out.
Here's the distinction being made from liberal feminism Here you're asked to explain the difference You don't, instead deflecting Some time passes
I post here, differentiating between liberal and Marxist feminism
Then you just spout a bunch of barely related catchphrases

Did you think I couldn't be bothered to point this out or what? Like you said it's all right there.

Ayden Hall
Ayden Hall

You're the one saying it's true that Marxist feminism is good and we have to agree until you're proven wrong, then ignoring all criticism.
<Can you cite where I said that? It should be pretty easy, since all you need to do is scroll up.
<Or are you completely full of shit or something?
Literally zero posts you linked have anything like that in them. So I'll reiterate. Can you cite where I posted that? Or do you need some help reading those posts you linked?

Parker Brown
Parker Brown

So if we've misinterpreted your posts are you going to articulate your actual position or just act superior for being misconstrued?

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Jace Smith
Jace Smith

I'm not trying to communicate with you.
I'm just being polite since it seems like you don't have any friends.

Blake Cooper
Blake Cooper

containment thread for MRAs
feminists show up and do their usual arguing in bad faith interspersed with angry declarations that everyone else is nazis
posters turn on them
thread that was intended to bash anti-feminists becomes another kick-the-feminist game
This is why feminists can't have nice things.

Jackson Hernandez
Jackson Hernandez

Make a SECOND containment thread.
It contains the exact shitshow that it is a containment thread for.
Incels are butthurt over this.

Liam Sullivan
Liam Sullivan

wahhhh incel incel incel incel

lol why are feminazis so retarded? They think calling people incel automatically wins the argument. That may work on reddit but not here, whore.

Dylan Parker
Dylan Parker

It contains the exact shitshow that it is a containment thread for.
Incels are butthurt over this.

Charles Perry
Charles Perry

more sliding… yay. Why don't the mods just anchor one of these stupid threads

Robert Sullivan
Robert Sullivan

fuck forgot to sage

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

sage negated redditor. sage is not a downvote.

Blake Lopez
Blake Lopez

Combat Feminism

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

We should have an idpol containment thread on cycle tbh

Ethan Gonzalez
Ethan Gonzalez

Yes, that will definitely stop me from making posts that trigger you, white snowflake

Matthew Brown
Matthew Brown

name a feminist who supports equality user. Because we can name plenty that oppose equality.
b-but Wikipedia articles that were created by feminists say that feminism is good! This totally contradicts the millions of examples of feminism being against gender equality!
Fuck off and don't come back until you bother doing some actual research on feminism.

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Aiden Davis
Aiden Davis

super based and redpilled

death to the feminazis

Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

Kill all men

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Joseph Sullivan
Joseph Sullivan

muh dictionary definitions

Unfortunately for you, even rationalwiki, aka the regressive left wiki, acknowledges that using dictionary definitions to support your arguments is utterly flawed:

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_dictionarium#Feminism

Brandon Ortiz
Brandon Ortiz

Argumentum ad dictionarium is the act of pulling out a dictionary to support your assertions.
So where did this happen, and with which assertions?
You're also aware that that's a joke article to make you look stupid when you try and win an argument with it, right?

Benjamin Ward
Benjamin Ward

Your post sucks but on the topic of feminism talking about men the way white racists talk about black people…
A lot of feminists early on were awful racists and you can see the influence of racist rhetoric on feminist rhetoric. Pointing out the similarity isn't a "haha gotcha, you're like this bad thing!" it's just observing the ideological genealogy.

Landon Butler
Landon Butler

All feminism is white girl feminism

Noah Davis
Noah Davis

Feminism is reactionary.

Owen Ortiz
Owen Ortiz

All feminism is derived from white girl feminism so kind of.

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

It's not though
Women's liberation didn't begin Anglo suffragettes.

Luke Flores
Luke Flores

women's lib = feminism

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Dominic Green
Dominic Green

arbeit macht frei

Samuel Young
Samuel Young

It's also about hating women
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOOK AT THIS TOP MONG

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Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

"people who have a hard time getting laid need hard labor because they're aren't normal and that's bad because bleep bloop"

year zero can't come soon enough.

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Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

death to fembots.

Adam Martinez
Adam Martinez

Why use that flag if you are a misogynist? Zapatismo is feminist.

Carter Flores
Carter Flores

Nothing should be feminist

Cameron Johnson
Cameron Johnson

Cry more virgin

Isaiah Sanders
Isaiah Sanders

Anchor this fucking worthless mangina thread already. Ban any feminist faggot coming here.

Cooper Watson
Cooper Watson

Every socialist is necessarily a feminist.

Leo Campbell
Leo Campbell

I build a feminist bot, the tweet

Adrian Thompson
Adrian Thompson

Calls him a virgin
Supports feminism
Oh you poor poor man

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Leo Reyes
Leo Reyes

I don't know what either of these words means

Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

It's nice that you admit it, but we can tell.

Jayden Garcia
Jayden Garcia

I know you are but what am I
Most people are rightfully not feminists because they don't see women as retarded children.

Ayden Wood
Ayden Wood

I need the state to enforce my social mores on others
Cry more babby man

Luke Lee
Luke Lee

Every socialist is necessarily a misandrist
Source? Why do you think that hating men is a necessary part of socialism?

Colton Hernandez
Colton Hernandez

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Joseph Cruz
Joseph Cruz

Anyone notice how variation of the word "virgin" keeps cropping up? Manchild, neckbeard, MRA, willful cuckold, permavirgin, and now incel. They have to keep hopping from term to term because the last one loses its punch from overuse.

On topic, the duty and roles of women should be encouraged by social etiquette, but physical force is too far. The asians who live in my city all have traditional gender roles, and help family out when someone needs help. This goes beyond the nuclear family, it is small scale communism where they freely share resources and assist one another. I've seen hispanics do it as well and with great success. On the other hand, women are encouraged to get educated and go to college, where they basically throw their lives away for their supposed liberation. They get a degree that won't get them a job, they aren't encouraged to find a partner, and they have a lot of student debt, making them eternal debt slaves and workers. I'm not blaming them, they were sold a lie about liberation and college. That lie did irreparable damage to their lives that honestly, no one is sure how they will recover. So I wouldn't have police on thot patrols, preventing women from voting/driving/whoreing, but everyone should just admit the truth that being a bitchy whore isn't liberation at all.

<incel neckbeard misogynist

Some societies in the past have put the feminine as divine, and honestly women fared a lot better back then. If there is some crisis, women and children always come first. How is that not a distinct advantage over being a man? Men go off to war so that women don't have to fight in a battle and get stabbed, men work at their jobs to provide food for their kids and wife. The women serve the education role, they have a monopoly on how children are raised in these older societies. Men can be aggressive brutes, but they listen to their wives' requests. It is often said that they husband may be the head of the household, but the wife is the neck that turns the head. This gender war is garbage, men and women are different, and should work together like a good team, rather than gender sectarianism.

Capitalism seeks to erode differences between the genders, to make a more homogeneous workingclass. The steel mill needs workers, and the workforce can double if women are included. I seriously doubt working 12 hour shifts at the steel mill is somehow liberation. Many ancient religions and cultures have this concept of a mother god, a caretaker and a mother of all life. It puts the matriarchal figure as the divine feminine, and celebrates women being mothers. In the feminist world, the woman is now a female, the man is now a male. Both male and female work for MegaCorp, are alone without partner, and are stuck paying debt/rent until they die from alcoholism or suicide. The males sit at home masturbating, the women bitch about the patriarchy and drink boxed wine. TERF's will forever be stuck with cognitive dissonance, because they want to keep men outside of their gender, but that forces them to admit that the genders are inherently different on a biological level.

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Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

I'm definitely going to read a wall of text after it begins with a scizophrenic paragraph about being "unfairly" maligned as a virgin

Carson Harris
Carson Harris

schizophrenic paragraph about being marginalized as a virgin.
Seemed fine to me. Also he's talking about virgin being used as an insult and he's not even really talking about that. Virgin marginalization is also a real thing.

Caleb Carter
Caleb Carter

nah bro, he was totally a virgin
that's the only reason he'd say anything negative about virgin shaming men
also i'm a feminist, which means i support gender equality

Cameron Gutierrez
Cameron Gutierrez

that's the only reason he'd say anything negative about virgin shaming men.
So if I'm 7'0, built, and good looking, but am a virgin I should be shamed for never giving enough of a shit to spend five minutes having sex with a girl?
Seems pretty illogical to me man.

Brody Sanders
Brody Sanders

No, it's actually more virtuous if you lose your virginity to a man, so you shouldn't be shamed.

Jack Collins
Jack Collins

Oh ok we're shitposting now.
It's actually more virtuous to lose it to yourself.

Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

Not an argument. Explain to me why I can't be a socialist just because I think that male victims of abuse deserve support, or because I think that sexism against been is wrong.

Carson Johnson
Carson Johnson

We'll kick you out of the party for being a wrecker

Asher Parker
Asher Parker

Those are feminist positions, retard.

Ethan Reed
Ethan Reed

Why do emotional spergs even bother posting here, if they get triggered by the slightest disagreement

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Jeremiah Harris
Jeremiah Harris

policies that explicitly discriminate against men are feminist
removing those policies is also feminist
but mra are muh soggy knees even though the men's human rights movement was literally built by former feminists excommunicated from feminism for the specific crime of warning against reverse sexism and preaching egalitarianism

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Charles Evans
Charles Evans

those are feminist positions even though feminists fight against them!
Do you have trouble with english? If feminists fight against support for male victims of abuse and if feminists say that sexism against men isn't real and we shouldn't talk about it, then how are those "feminist positions"?

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Jackson Myers
Jackson Myers

I've been on here since 2015 and I get the GG stuff but people on this board who are "anti-feminist" come off as buttmad redditors who got kicked out of /r/socialism for some dumb reason.

Jayden Scott
Jayden Scott

…and seconds later, you'll be bitching that someone used the phrase "toxic masculinity," which LITERALLY revolves around condemning the "suck it up and quit whining about those things" position.

Austin Hernandez
Austin Hernandez

<they get triggered by the slightest disagreement
he's angrily replying to the one shiposter baiting this thread

Wyatt Martinez
Wyatt Martinez

which LITERALLY revolves around condemning the "suck it up and quit whining about those things" position.blaming men for everything bad that happens to them, absolving women of any responsibility whatsoever, and bending the knee to feminazis as their only possible saviors.

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Zachary Fisher
Zachary Fisher

Anti-feminism is a feminist position
No
People who unironically support misandry come across as people who have no business on the left. And people who claim feminism isn't anti-male come across as either lying or really really stupid

Zachary Rodriguez
Zachary Rodriguez

unironically support misandry

Where have I stated such? Feminism can be "anti-male" and it can also not be "anti-male" its not a uniform ideology just like how one sectarian socialist doesn't represent the views of every other socialist.

Really getting sick of this childish gatekeeping and reactionary rhetoric about feminism. You literally sound like a /pol/tard screeching about some invisible cabal of jews.

Your internalized sexual failures are not leftist in any way, you are a reactionary in red paint.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

male victims of abuse deserve support
feminist position

words mean what they were originally coined to mean, NOT what people currently use them for
Not even going to argue that "toxic masculinity" sounds like it's referring to masculinity in general, but that phrase gets used today to refer to male "problem" behavior like boys roughhousing at a cookout. That's wildly fucking different from the original meaning which was supposed to be about helping men express themselves. Similar attempts today are met with the "male tears" thought terminating cliche. Like the work of egalitarians, socialists, anarchists, suffragists, and so on, the work of the mythopoetic men's movement gets misattributed to and colonized by feminists wokescolding men for doing things they don't like.

It's like if you took shitty standup about gender differences and added a manipulative, moralizing element.

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Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Wouldn't call it "baiting" desu, baiting implies getting the most replies possible to derail a thread. Honestly it's not worth responding to angry erratic posts.

Referring to men as "males" dehumanizes men unless in a scientific setting, same way that referring to women as "females" aligns them more with animals.

feminism can be anti-male or not anti-male

It is sectarian by nature, referring to only one gender. If feminism is explicitly about empowering women, that is juxtaposing half of the population to the other half.

reactionary rhetoric about feminism. You sound like a /pol/tard screeching about jews.

/pol/tards must enjoy not having to pay rent considering how much they live in your head. Criticism of liberalism != reactionary politics. And yes, feminism is a form of liberalism.

internalized sexual failures.

Trying to call other people losers on a chan of all places, lol

You're reactionary with red paint.

At some point you have to make an argument, social shaming on the internet lasts maybe one post before it stops meaning anything.

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Mason Harris
Mason Harris

Jesus tittyfucking christ. Idpol threads tend to get the most replies.

Get your lazy asses to work, mods, and ban every single idpol thread, for fuck's sake.

Noah Wood
Noah Wood

I didn't necessarily say you supported misandry, I also said
And people who claim feminism isn't anti-male come across as either lying or really really stupid
You might not be a misandrist you could also be lying and/or really really stupid.
and it can also not be "anti-male"
source on the non anti-male feminism? Give examples.
its not a uniform ideology
there are differences in feminism but not when it comes to men's rights. 99% of feminists oppose men's rights and the 1% who support equality are irrelevant fringe feminists who are hated by the rest.
also this, "toxic masculinity" is just feminists shaming men. Remember pic-related from a couple weeks ago? Feminists using the Gillette ad to talk about "toxic masculinity" sounded like /pol/tards hating black people. Nobody who talks about toxic masculinity cares about men, it's just a way for misandrists to hate men while claiming they want to help us
suck it up and quit whining about those things
is what feminists say to MRAs all the time.

Also notice how the anti-feminists have given actual examples of feminism being anti-male while the misandrist-apologists have nothing to support their claims?

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Christian Brown
Christian Brown

feminism can be anti-male or not anti-male
Feminism can also be extremely toxic.

Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

<communism is when the CEOs of major corporations control the government, because words have no meaning so anything I say is the only truth : the post.

Eli Foster
Eli Foster

Also notice how the anti-feminists have given actual examples of feminism being anti-male while the misandrist-apologists have nothing to support their claims?

actual examples

wew lad where have you shown me any evidence to support your views, have you even read feminist theory, I read theory from the left and right because I at least want to understand the opponent but like jesus your persecution complex is immense.

Samuel Peterson
Samuel Peterson

The discussion of "toxic masculinity" is about what the signifier signifies. I'm saying that what the signifier signifies has changed, even if the signified things are not different. I'm not making an argument that the signified follows the signifier. It's one of the tasks of the left to reclaim words like "communism" to mean something specific and concrete instead of merely being snarl words for enemies of the political establishment.

actual examples
have you even read feminist theory
Theory and praxis are two different things. You learn at least as much about someone by looking to their actions as you do by listening to their ideas.

Xavier Edwards
Xavier Edwards

be whore
invited to have sex
say yes because you're a whore
later regret consensual sex
falsely accuse guy of rape, ruin his reputation because "muh rape culture muh womyn'z liberation"

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Brayden Turner
Brayden Turner

bonus points if the man who raped you is black, because the entire community will lynch him for you

Josiah Martin
Josiah Martin

Don't forget
Be honored as a hero by the largest feminist organization for harassing an innocent man
Be invited by a US Congressman (and now Presidential candidate) who joins in your harassment of an innocent man
Have brainlets on Zig Forums insist that harassing innocent men and branding them rapists is a necessary part of socialism, and that can't be a socialist if you don't think all men are rapists

Joseph Turner
Joseph Turner

Saw something like this firsthand. Friend is a dealer, gets invited over by white girl. He brings the goods, they get high together and fuck. While he was coming off the high, he was being yelled at by the girl, soon after police arrive. White girl accuses black weed dealer of rape, he winds up arrested, but he eventually got off because a lack of evidence.

but #believewomen amirite?

Brody Edwards
Brody Edwards

Virgin marginalization is also a real thing.
nice fuckin spooks nerd

lmao is the materialist analytical power of leftpol?

Jackson Lopez
Jackson Lopez

WTF are you talking about. How is being a virgin, then being ridiculed for it not a material condition? You saying this type of thing doesn't happen?

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

nice fuckin spooks nerd
You're right, virginity is a spook. Why you support social punishment for it is beyond me.
lmao is the materialist analytical power of leftpol?
Sure is pal, you can always go back to /leftypol/index.html

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

r/k selection in action.

Ethan Howard
Ethan Howard

Are virgins actually ridiculed in the USA? I always thought it was just some Hollywood bullshit, like people actually enjoying fast food.

Brody Howard
Brody Howard

people actually enjoying fast food
It depends. While the average Amerifat does spend $500/year on fast food, just 14% of them account for half of fast food sales:
qsrmagazine.com/news/study-says-fast-food-remains-popular
Much more ominous is the encroachment of restaurants as a whole, delivery, takeout, and pre-prepared food on home cooking itself. Each generation of burgerlards is getting worse and worse at cooking, and doing less and less of it:
porch.com/resource/cooking-nightmares

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

I honestly think people care less now than they did in the past.

Jaxon Long
Jaxon Long

Yeah but like said it's not as common as it used to be. Nobody gives a fuck if a woman is a virgin, and not many care if a man is. Mostly you see this shit with "party" people who go to clubs and don't want someone else's lack of a sex life to put their own very active sex life in a larger context where they have to self-reflect. The whole point of that lifestyle is to escape self-reflection (and is mostly engaged by bourgeois kids who have a lot to reflect on).

People do actually enjoy fast food though. It's not just that it's addictive, it's loaded with stuff that makes your dopamine surge (which is why it's addictive) and that does make it feel good to eat, even if later you're vomiting or getting diarrhea.

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

little caesar's $5 Hot N' Ready diarrhea

Henry Reyes
Henry Reyes

feminsttheoryreadinggroup.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/one-is-not-born-a-woman-by-monique-wittig-1981/

Simone de Beauvoir underlined particularly the false consciousness which consists of selecting among the features of the myth (that women are different form men) those which look good and using them as a definition for women. What the concept “woman is wonderful” accomplishes is that it retains for defining women the best features (best according to whom?) which oppression has granted us, and it does not radically question the categories “man” and “woman,” which are political categories and not natural givens. It puts us in a position of fighting within the class “women” not as the other classes do, for the disappearance of our class, but for the defense of “woman” and its reinforcement. It leads us to develop with complacency “new” theories about our specificity: thus, we call our passivity “nonviolence,” when the main and emergent point for us is to fight our passivity (our fear, rather, a justified one). The ambiguity of the term “feminist” sums up the whole situation. What does “feminist” mean? Feminist is formed with the word “femme,” “woman,” and means: someone who fights for women. For many of us it means someone who fights for women as a class and for the disappearance of this class. For many others it means someone who fights for woman and her defense– for the myth, then, and its reinforcement. But why was the word “feminist” chosen if it retains the least ambiguity? We chose to call ourselves “feminists” ten years ago, not in order to support or reinforce the myth of woman, nor to identify ourselves with the oppressor’s definition of us, but rather to affirm that our movement had a history and to emphasize the political link with the old feminist movement.

feminism is good actually

Jace Ramirez
Jace Ramirez

[…]Thus it is our historical task, and only ours, to define what we call oppression in materialist terms, to make it evident that women are a class, which is to say that the category “woman” as well as the category “man” are political and economic categories not eternal ones. Our fight aims to suppress men as a class, not through a genocidal, but a political struggle. Once the class “men” disappears, “women” as a class will disappear as well, for there are no slaves without masters. Our first task, it seems, is to always thoroughly dissociate “women”(the class within which we fight) and “woman,” the myth. For “woman” does not exist for us: it is only an imaginary formation, while “women” is the product of a social relationship. We felt this strongly when everywhere we refused to be called a “woman’s liberation movement.” Furthermore, we have to destroy the myth inside and outside ourselves. “Woman” is not each one of us, but the political and ideological formation which negates “women” (the product of a relation of exploitation). “Woman” is there to confuse us, to hide the reality “women.” In order to be aware of being a class and to become a class we first have to kill the myth of “woman” including its most seductive aspects (I think about Virginia Woolf when she said the first task of a woman writer is to kill “the angel in the house”). But to become a class we do not have to suppress our individual selves, and since no individual can be reduced to her/his oppression we are also confronted with the historical necessity of constituting ourselves as the individual subjects of our history as well. I believe this is the reason why all these attempts at “new” definitions of woman are blossoming now. What is at stake (and of course not only for women) is an individual definition as well as a class definition. For once one has acknowledged oppression, one needs to know and experience the fact that one can constitute oneself as a subject (as opposed to as object of oppression), that one can become someone in spite of oppression, that one has one’s own identity. There is no possible fight for someone deprived of an identity, no internal motivation for fighting, since, although I can fight only with others, first I fight for myself.

Hunter Howard
Hunter Howard

sounds pretty idiotic, tbh fam

John Harris
John Harris

This is the ideal solution to pretty much any identitarian issue other than feminism. While there are various kinds of non-universal culture-specific gender (ugh) spooks that need not exist, in the case of feminism, it can only go so far. Because, of course, sex isn't a spook, and many nigh-universal cultural adaptations to that fact have a firm basis in biology.

As long as we remain human, those need to be acknowledged in the structure of society, not denied and suppressed in a masochistic game of pretend.

Cooper Perry
Cooper Perry

sex = gender

okay shapiro

oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095507973

biological essentialism

QUICK REFERENCE
The belief that ‘human nature’, an individual's personality, or some specific quality (such as intelligence, creativity, homosexuality, masculinity, femininity, or a male propensity to aggression) is an innate and natural ‘essence’ (rather than a product of circumstances, upbringing, and culture). The concept is typically invoked where there is a focus on difference, as where females are seen as essentially different from males: see gender essentialism. The term has often been used pejoratively by constructionists; it is also often used synonymously with biological determinism. See also essentialism; compare strategic essentialism.

humans are humans from ability to need.

Tyler Gutierrez
Tyler Gutierrez

sex = gender
Not at all what I was saying
biological essentialism
Yes, obviously. While obviously far from 100% deterministic, attempts to pretend it has no or insignificant impact on different behaviors of the sexes is overwhelmingly disproven. Probably the most infamous example is the "Nordic paradox" whereby countries with strong laws to accommodate fairness between the sexes actually have even greater sexual disparities in outcomes than countries that don't.

Jackson Flores
Jackson Flores

Probably the most infamous example is the "Nordic paradox" whereby countries with strong laws to accommodate fairness between the sexes actually have even greater sexual disparities in outcomes than countries that don't.

capitalism doesn't reproduce the conditions for its existence its hyoooomun naaaychur!!

Adrian Cook
Adrian Cook

OP pic
Fucking lol, this is the most blatant feminist false flag I've ever seen. They realize that men are now (finally) getting redpilled in huge numbers that the age of consent is too high because women are jealous of how much better teenage girls are, so they have to pull this bullshit. Fucking pathetic.

Joshua Stewart
Joshua Stewart

Both sets of countries are capitalist (in fact, the Nordic countries in question are arguably somewhat less capitalist due to their uniquely strong socdem reforms). Brush up on your philosophy of science and try looking for another control factor.

Landon Reed
Landon Reed

This thread is absolutely worthless. We already have a feminism containment thread to keep at check all this /pol/fags LARPers.

This is not r/socialism. Anchor this goddamn thread already.

Jeremiah Parker
Jeremiah Parker

anyone who is against feminism is /pol/

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Andrew Bennett
Andrew Bennett

waaaahhhhh I need a strongman to protect me from the wimminfolk

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Ayden Brooks
Ayden Brooks

Implying I'm defending feminism

No. We are so goddamn tired of you, /pol/ LARPers shitting our board. Femicunts do not belong on the left and they'll be the first to go when the revolution comes.

Gavin Green
Gavin Green

they'll be the first to go when the revolution comes.
Addendum: feminists will be the first to go because they'll voluntarily leave to join the counterrevolution.

Luke Young
Luke Young

A lot of women still reject men for being inexperienced. Some of them pretend they don't care about experience and are just rejecting guys for being bad in bed even though 99% of the time if a guy is bad in bed it's just lack of experience.

Sebastian Price
Sebastian Price

Is that why 99.9% of femishits are anti-gun?

mic.com/articles/51715/why-gun-control-is-a-feminist-issue

nwlc.org/blog/disarming-hate-is-a-feminist-issue/

hellogiggles.com/news/actually-yes-gun-control-is-a-womens-issue/

theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/17/tomi-lahren-nra-women-use-feminism-sell-guns

thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/369910-gun-violence-prevention-is-a-feminist-issue

feministezine.com/feminist/modern/Subverting-Feminism-For-Guns.html

When the revolution comes, feminists will be the ones hiding like the little chicken-shits they are. Without your beta orbiters, the feminist movement isn't worth shit.

Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill

Feminists will be the ones demanding that men do the fighting for them, while also claiming that it's "toxic masculinity" and the patriarchy backfiring that demands men do the fighting for them.

Oliver Myers
Oliver Myers

that would backfire as an incel opportunist would use it as a way to kill women. not that I care.

Jose Bell
Jose Bell

99% of the time if a guy is bad in bed it's just lack of experience.
I don't know about that. A lack of effort or just not understanding what the other person is feeling seem to be common complaints, and those are not just a lack of experience. Experience does help, though.

Parker Myers
Parker Myers

Experience with someone who actively participates and gives feedback. A lot of people suck at sex from not knowing much. A lot of men just thrust until they cum and a lot of women just lie there. Neither of those kinds of people is the kind of experience that will help you be better at sex. More of sex is bad because people treat each other like fuck toys than because lack of general experience.

Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

Feminism means self servings scolds, emasculating lezzas and rapist troons. Kill 'em all.

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

based mods

Asher Jones
Asher Jones

If you like dicks so much, why don't you choke on one, Mr. Mod?

Jayden Martinez
Jayden Martinez

wokescolds using dick sucking as an insult
you are cancelled for homophobia

Brayden Moore
Brayden Moore

Cuntzi's despise femininity in men.

Cameron Butler
Cameron Butler

You're the only one wokescolding, retard
When do you plan to shoot up a planned parenthood?

Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

Do you usually not understand sarcasm or are you just that mad? You can't cancel some poster on an imageboard, retard.

David Ross
David Ross

You're the only raging here bucko.
I'm going to keep posting things that you hate, and there's nothing you can do to stop me. I'm completely confident that I will win a war of attrition with you, because virtuous people don't believe the things that you do.

David Parker
David Parker

Feminism is inherently eugenic, bigoted, Malthusian and sexist in genocidal way.
The Patriarchy is literally a one for one copy of the Jewish Conspiracy that Nazis peddle. All men are collectively working together to oppress women either knowingly, or implicitly through inaction. I mean just replace "men" with "Jews" and it's literally the "Protocols of Zion" but with dicks.
Feminists will cite very really statistics that show women being disproportionately effected by things like the pay gap as evidence of a Patriarchy, but somehow men being thrown in prison far more and for longer is somehow not evidence of a Matriarchy.
Laughable a lot of things they cite like the pay gap are actually problems of race and not sex. White women get paid something like 2% less then white men, not nothing, but the gap between Black women and White men is something like 40%. But this is all averaged among all women to get the infamous 20% figure.
I suggest leftists use the term "women's issues" instead of feminism, since it leaves open the possibility of there being "men's issues" as well.
Regardless, I think women are becoming more proletariat and will become more and more reactionary and violent and be at parity with men soon.
Capitalism gave women special consideration to women because they needed them to have babies. That's not true anymore between automation and outsourcing. We're already seeing falling rates of marriage and even sexual activity in all first world countries.
I think being married, or even being in a relationship will be a status symbol soon. In the same way having a nice car is today. Most female proles will, for lack of a better term, ride the cock carousel until they are past their fertility window, then die alone. While most men will have sex with a sex robot until they are too old to be interested in marriage and die along as well. I think with the internet and social media and men growing up in single parent households, men will not be willing to enter into relationships or marriage in the near future.
It will become the norm to live your whole life without a partner in the same way it's normal to be divorced at least once now.

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

virtuous people
spooked moralfag detected

Blake Murphy
Blake Murphy

spooked moralfag detected
implying I care about your galaxy brain takes on how people should think, feel, and act

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

implying anyone "should" think, feel, and act any particular way

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Kevin Sullivan
Kevin Sullivan

This is the correct answer.

Levi Miller
Levi Miller

the women will have sex with men and men will have sex with robots
This makes perfect sense.

Jace Torres
Jace Torres

implying you're not implying they shouldn't be moral or base their behaviors off of reasons you don't like
Can't tell if you're legit retarded or just a troll at this point

Angel Cruz
Angel Cruz

morality
reasons

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Josiah Richardson
Josiah Richardson

lel I'll just stop replying to you
virtuous people don't believe the things that you do.
Virtue ethics may be nice for giving normies useful self-help guidelines but it's shit for dealing with actual questions of ethics and morals. Virtuous people still struggle with hard questions because there aren't necessarily right answers. So chew on that. Peace.

Pretty much any critique of feminism is true for some version of feminism, because feminism includes so many different belief systems.
I suggest leftists use the term "women's issues" instead of feminism, since it leaves open the possibility of there being "men's issues" as well.
How about just "gender issues" then? Inclusive of everybody by default.

Ryan Murphy
Ryan Murphy

But have you considered user, bisexuality?

You're viewing the world through a primitive heterosexual lens

William Ward
William Ward

The post you're replying to is much more about society having a "heterosexual lens" than that poster having one.
t. bisexual

Matthew Baker
Matthew Baker

Primitive minds, smh

Leo Butler
Leo Butler

Economics, climate change and overall meaningfull threads get barely 30 replies, yet shitty idpol threads like this get 100+ replies. The current state of Zig Forums.

Why do you insist on flooding Zig Forums with cringeworthy feminist threads? This is our board, not yours, femifaggots. Just go away, for fuck's sake.

Ethan Taylor
Ethan Taylor

I made this thread in response to the five incel threads on page one.

Logan James
Logan James

They get completely ignored, anchored sometimes. Nobody here gives a shit about incelfags not getting laid. Most of their threads are "tfw no qt 3.14 azn gf" garbage.

Bottom line: idpol does not belong here in leftpol. Whether it's M.R.A./incels/M.G.T.O.W. or feminism they are absolutely shit tier threads and ideologies.

Also, there was already a feminism containment thread. This one was merely set up because feminazis want to seize our board, somehow.

Incels & feminists: Same turd, different asshole.

Angel Evans
Angel Evans

there are good people on both sides
Fuck off nazi

Jeremiah Ward
Jeremiah Ward

Why did you protect their identity?
Seriously.

Wtf

Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

It's probably via Twatter, censored on Feddit, originally from Cuckchan.

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Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

Eh,
The trick is to just batter through their defences on that regard. If it gets censored, who fucking cares? the right guys will save it and circulate it.

You always have about a 10 -30 minute window on these jokes sites, get in, do your damage.
I know from experience that redpills can circulate even though you get our account locked. It's just part of the job at this point. The good guys will always save your shit and circulate it.

Eli Young
Eli Young

Red herring. I never once made an appeal to rationality on my comment.

Both the manosphere and the feminists are full of shit.

Landon Stewart
Landon Stewart

You made a false equivalence between leftists and reactionaries. It's the exact same shit. Your playbook is garbo, and your intentions are obvious.

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee

No that user made a fair comparison between two groups of idpol retards

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

"incel", is an ad hominem

Easton Thompson
Easton Thompson

women will be dead, user.

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

desu in this picture I want to be Digg…
some would but there will also be plenty of white knights, happy to fulfill their traditional gender roles while pretending to be against traditional gender roles.

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Josiah Perry
Josiah Perry

No, it was a false equivalence.

Cameron Howard
Cameron Howard

You made a false equivalence between leftists and reactionaries

No, I didn't. I am left wing myself and I can see through the divide and conquer tactic of identity politics, both from reactionary shitbags and feminist whiny fags. Besides, there can be feminism without socialism (the clintoncrats, socdems and neoliberals) and reactionaries are both left wing and right wing (nazbols, tankies, strasserites, /pol/ retards, nazis, fascists, etc).

Idpol is neither left or right, but rather plain garbage.

David Sanders
David Sanders

What exactly do you claim is false about it, because it certainly appears apt to me.

Wyatt Jenkins
Wyatt Jenkins

Everything. Nothing is true about it. Anyone can adhom two groups and then say they are the same in that the adhom both applies to them. Real galaxy brain analysis. The problem with arguments from analogy, which is what this is, is they're never conclusive. If they don't appeal to the intuitions you already have, they won't convince you.
The divide and conquer tactic of identity politics is reducing a legitimate struggle for liberation to identity politics and comparing it to a reactionary movement intended to dismiss that very struggle. Identity politics is a glittering generality. It's reactionary propaganda, and serves no other purpose than to dismiss the struggles of minority groups within the left in order to divide and conquer. Economism and reductionism are false. You aren't a leftist, but you pretend to be one online.

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

There hasn't been a need for feminism in the first world in a very long time, at least since the 80's. Feminism for at least nearly 40 years has been about making men a caste under women.
I know I'm going to be accused of being an incel for saying that but just look at what modern feminists are advocating.
Suspension of due process with regard to sexual assault, i.e. the whole #metoo hysteria.
Preservation of special property rights like Child Support and Alimony.
Preservation of debtors prisons for men that don't pay these.
The destruction of marriage and sexual morals. Before you call me spooked, realize that these social pressures gave many low class, ugly men a good faith chance at finding a partner. This free sex isn't good for women either. All it does is open them up to being used for sex by the most desirable men during their prime years, then leaves them scrabbling to build a relationship with someone at the last minute.
Feminism in it's current for is only there to push down wages by widening the work pool, and make men more precarious. Making both sexes more vulnerable to capitalist exploitation and deepening divides in the proletariat.

Jason Ross
Jason Ross

There hasn't been a need for feminism in the first world in a very long time, at least since the 80's. Feminism for at least nearly 40 years has been about making men a caste under women.
Ah yes, the 80s, when you were considered a dyke if you wanted a career instead of being some dude's wife and baby factory.
Suspension of due process with regard to sexual assault, i.e. the whole #metoo hysteria.
Due process unfairly benefits those in power. Due process NEVER indicts rich men like Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump. The ONLY way Weinstein was brought down is through an extrajudicial angry mob.
Preservation of special property rights like Child Support and Alimony.
These aren't special, and receive FAR less resources than abortion. Nevertheless, men also receive child support and alimony, and your assumption that they don't is a sexist one based on ignorance.
Preservation of debtors prisons for men that don't pay these.
If you don't take care of your children within the current system, you should be ostracized.
The destruction of marriage and sexual morals.
Good. Fuck both of those things. Read Engels.
blah blah blah workerism won't you please think of poor white men muh left unity
If you really cared about left unity your goal wouldn't be to expel women and women's issues from leftism.
You think everything is hunky dory now that women have suffrage, but suffrage does nothing because bourgeois electoralism is a scam.

Isaiah Long
Isaiah Long

a bunch of strawman statements

Liam Perry
Liam Perry

These aren't special, and receive FAR less resources than abortion.
What does abortion have to do with the state taking money from men by force or enslaving them if they don't.
Nevertheless, men also receive child support and alimony, and your assumption that they don't is a sexist one based on ignorance.
So does that fact that men get raped to mean that it's sexist to think sexual assault isn't a women's issue? I never said men never get child support or alimony, but it's rare especially in the case of alimony.
<In 2014, about five of every six
custodial parents were mothers
(82.5 percent) and one of every six
were fathers (17.5 percent), proportions
that were not statistically different
from those in 1994

Table 2:
Men receiving child support: 2,350,000
Women receiving child support: 11,069,000

census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/P60-255.pdf

Alimony
Of the 400,000 people in the United States receiving post-divorce spousal maintenance, just 3 percent were men, according to Census figures.
forbes.com/sites/emmajohnson/2014/11/20/why-do-so-few-men-get-alimony/

Ah yes, the 80s, when you were considered a dyke if you wanted a career instead of being some dude's wife and baby factory.

That's nowhere near the violent state repression of men on behalf of women that I'm speaking about in this post.

Due process unfairly benefits those in power. Due process NEVER indicts rich men like Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump.

There's no evidence that either party sexually assaulted anyone. Just because a woman says a man raped doesn't prove it.
You're point is well taken, but rich people escape justice often because Due Process is subverted. And they have the resources to successfully hide their crimes. You due realize that idea behind Due Process is to allow some guilty people to get away to prevent innocent people from being persecuted by the state. And you do understand people besides rich people get away with crimes.
And that women often willingly sleep with rich men like Trump and Weinstein for social mobility.
The ONLY way Weinstein was brought down is through an extrajudicial angry mob.
Neither man has been taken down as of yet. This shows how myopic you are. Not only are you endangering scores of vulnerable young men without the power of a Trump or Weinstein, it failed to prosecute them anyway.
If you don't take care of your children within the current system, you should be ostracized.
Wow….mind blowing….you are literally a fascist. Being thrown in prison in American means literal slavery.
IT IS NOT SIMPLY "OSTRACIZATION"!!!!
Good. Fuck both of those things. Read Engels.
Engles didn't argue that the nuclear family was inherently bourgeoisie. He said the BOURGEOIS nuclear family was, and it was largely due to how they used marriage to organize and maintain property. He would have probably been against property rights like Child Support and Alimony that the state gives women.
If you really cared about left unity
It's clear by "left unity" you mean "compromise with liberals until your politics are neutralized.
your goal wouldn't be to expel women
Women = Feminists
No
and women's issues from leftism.
How is having women able to throw men into slavery over false accusations (which is what suspension of due process allows) or debt (child support) a women's isuse?
Please explain why women need to be able to wield state violence against men so disproportionately this way.
No

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Connor Howard
Connor Howard

*reposting this table because I messed up the formatting
<In 2014, about five of every six custodial parents were mothers (82.5 percent) and one of every six were fathers (17.5 percent), proportions that were not statistically different from those in 1994

<Table 2:
<Men receiving child support: 2,350,000
<Women receiving child support: 11,069,000

census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/P60-255.pdf

Brandon Parker
Brandon Parker

What does abortion have to do with the state taking money from men by force or enslaving them if they don't.
The state owns all the money. It's undemocratic, but of the state didn't force you to take care of your kids, someone still would.
That's nowhere near the violent state repression of men on behalf of women that I'm speaking about in this post.
The state is primarily comprised of men. It isn't on behalf of women, it's men oppressing men. The numbers are like that because more men abandon their children. It's a biological fact that when a man knocks up a random woman, the woman is left with the bill.

There's no evidence that either party sexually assaulted anyone.
Testimony is evidence. It's often the only evidence, and it's generally permissable. People are executed by the state on testimony alone regularly.
Due process is a farce. It's interesting how you love the law and the state when it benefits rapists, but you despise it when it's used to force accountability out of fathers when they shirk responsibility for a child within a system designed to make women and children completely dependent on them.
Wow….mind blowing….you are literally a fascist. Being thrown in prison in American means literal slavery.
IT IS NOT SIMPLY "OSTRACIZATION"!!!!
Due process is fascism to the same degree. The difference is that I'm being consistent, while you aren't. You love the courts when they favor men, and despise the very same courts when wielded against them. Just because I understand the ideal situation is quite different than the actual situation doesn't mean I can't believe that remediation from the state is proper in situations like this. Similarly, serial rapists should be quarantined for the very same reason, and it isn't fascism.
Engles didn't argue that the nuclear family was inherently bourgeoisie. He said the BOURGEOIS nuclear family was, and it was largely due to how they used marriage to organize and maintain property. He would have probably been against property rights like Child Support and Alimony that the state gives women.
No he wouldn't, because Engels was literally a feminist. The nuclear family itself is a patriarchal institution. This includes the trailer park nuclear family. It arises from the capitalist mode of production, and it serves to socially reproduce capitalist material and social conditions by commodifying the bodies of women and children.
It's clear by "left unity" you mean "compromise with liberals until your politics are neutralized.
You are a liberal. I'm not asking for compromise, I'm telling you that you're wrong entirely. You haven't posted a single discussion point that isn't reactionary agitprop intended to discredit feminism and divide it from socialism. Unfortunately, the ahistorical liberal gibberish being posted here is entirely yours.
How is having women able to throw men into slavery over false accusations (which is what suspension of due process allows) or debt (child support) a women's isuse?
You can throw any poor person in jail with false accusations because of the bail system. It isn't a unique feature of rape accusations. Child support is substantiated with paternity tests.
You're just an angry incel Nazi from /pol/ trying to turn this from a leftist space into an MTGOW outpost in order to completely push away anyone who would actually consider coming here to contribute something of value because leftists are living rent free in your mind.

David Robinson
David Robinson

It's undemocratic, but of the state didn't force you to take care of your kids, someone still would.
You're man hating is showing. No gender needs to be forced to take care if their kids.
The state is primarily comprised of men.
Hahahahaha so because the majority of people who hold power have penises this consistutes a patriarchy.
This is literal "Protocols of Zion" tier. Hey /pol/ can tell you all about the correlation between finance and Jews as well!
No one called me up when they invaded Iraq.
It isn't on behalf of women
My stats show the majority of people getting child support and alimony are women. I'll have to find it but even when women do pay Child support its lower than men's. Men pay 80 percent of all child support. So yeah, its on behalf of women.
it's men oppressing men.
So when a female cop shoots a man does that at least in part consistute a matriarchy.
Testimony is evidence.
Yes, so does the testimony of Trump and Weinstein denying it.
People are executed by the state on testimony alone regularly.
More people are let off when there's only testimony.
It's interesting how you love the law and the state when it benefits rapists
Yawn, Tumblr tier. Tons of people like you got black men lynched all the time during Jim Crow. This #believe her stuff is just an attempt to return to that.
but you despise it when it's used to force accountability out of fathers when they shirk responsibility for a child
Whoever has the kid pays, simple as that. All child support does is incentive women to have children to subsidize their own living expenses. Once again your rank bigotry is showing, most men would jump at the chance to take full custody and not pay child support, and support their children their way.
make women and children completely dependent on them.
Lol no, your the one that wants to make men depend on the happiness of their former lovers or face enslavement. Women shouldn't be depending on child support at all and supporting themselves. Its called CHILD SUPPORT, if a woman can't support herself she shouldnt be able to get a man to.
Due process is fascism to the same degree.
Lol Due process is a bulwark against fascism. The state would just persecute all its political enemies under false pretenses if it never had to prove anything.
In fact that's exactly what of does, with stuff like enemy combatants. The state relieving itself of the burden of due process. You want men to be treated like Guantanamo prisoners of war.
Just because I understand the ideal situation is quite different than the actual situation
You don't though, due process has successfully protected countless lives from wrongful state persecution. There's millions of cases going back to medieval times proving it. You just want everyone to accept your bigoted feminist theory that patriarchy has subverted due process so bad that it needs to be suspended.
It arises from the capitalist mode of production, and it serves to socially reproduce capitalist material and social conditions by commodifying the bodies of women and children.
Yeah the institution of marriage does that via property rights it grants spouses and children. Those same property rights you want to preserve. Being able to enslave someone if they don't pay a debt makes them your property.
Unfortunately, the ahistorical liberal gibberish being posted here is entirely yours.
Lol, the stats regarding child support and alimony aren't ahistorical. And even you concede men go to jail for failing to pay child support. You haven't backed a single one of your claims with evidence. You don't even get basic facts like Trump or Weinstein suffering exactly no consequences so far right.
You can throw any poor person in jail with false accusations because of the bail system
So because poor people get thrown in jail for other reasons you should be able to thrown them in jail over unsubstantiated sexual assault claims. Sorry, that's just rank oppression.
Child support is substantiated with paternity tests.
No in general its not. And there's plenty of cases where men were ordered to pay CS even after a paternity test showed negative.
You're just an angry incel Nazi from /pol/ trying to turn this from a leftist space into an MTGOW
Hahahaha I may sympathize with Men's Rights activists but your the Nazi. You literally want debtor's prisons because of your ugly feminists belief that men are inherently deadbeats.

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

You're man hating is showing. No gender needs to be forced to take care if their kids.
Wrong, everyone should. Your sociopathy is showing.
Hahahahaha so because the majority of people who hold power have penises this consistutes a patriarchy.
It literally does. You don't have to step very far back into the newspaper archives to see how women were considered property a few weeks ago, and 100% of US Presidents have been male. It's not a coincidence.
There's no conspiracy, because there's no cabal. It's a social fact that women have been oppressed by men for most of recorded history. There's no conspiracy, and it doesn't require intent or believing racist lies.
No one called me up when they invaded Iraq.
They probably called your dad.
My stats show the majority of people getting child support and alimony are women. I'll have to find it but even when women do pay Child support its lower than men's. Men pay 80 percent of all child support. So yeah, its on behalf of women.
It's on behalf of children, retard.
So when a female cop shoots a man does that at least in part consistute a matriarchy.
No.
Yes, so does the testimony of Trump and Weinstein denying it.
Right, and it's one to many, which is why Weinstein is going to prison.
More people are let off when there's only testimony.
Wrong. When it's a rich man or a cop against a poor black man, they're as good as dead.
Yawn, Tumblr tier. Tons of people like you got black men lynched all the time during Jim Crow. This #believe her stuff is just an attempt to return to that.
No, that was the Klan, your homeboys.
Whoever has the kid pays, simple as that.
Go fuck yourself. Whoever makes the kid pays. BOTH PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE KID. If you make a baby, that kid shouldn't have to have less than half the resources of every other member of his generation just because you think you're a fucking snowflake and want to larp as James Bond.
Lol no, your the one that wants to make men depend on the happiness of their former lovers or face enslavement. Women shouldn't be depending on child support at all and supporting themselves. Its called CHILD SUPPORT, if a woman can't support herself she shouldnt be able to get a man to.
If you want to continue living in a society still based on institutions created to treat women and children as property, you will take responsibility. Sure, I'd rather there be no property, so we could just take you out back and shoot you in the head when you're a deadbeat dad, but we do have laws, and we will turn them against you instead until we don't.
Lol Due process is a bulwark against fascism.
Due process is the instrument of fascism. Fascists have never risen to power through revolution, always through the formal political process and existing government framework.
You don't though, due process has successfully protected countless lives from wrongful state persecution. There's millions of cases going back to medieval times proving it.
It kills innocent people more often. If you love the law so much, then enjoy your alimony, shithead.
Yeah the institution of marriage does that via property rights it grants spouses and children. Those same property rights you want to preserve. Being able to enslave someone if they don't pay a debt makes them your property.
For instance giving them a baby and making it so they can't work and are totally dependent on you for months at a time, and using that financial advantage to control the dynamics of the family, but actually you should be allowed to do this with five women at a time and not take care of any of the children because you're such a victim
You don't even get basic facts like Trump or Weinstein suffering exactly no consequences so far right.
Losing your company and no one working with you, as well as the indictments ARE consequnences
So because poor people get thrown in jail for other reasons you should be able to thrown them in jail over unsubstantiated sexual assault claims. Sorry, that's just rank oppression.
It would be very strange to give rapists a free pass. Why would you want to do that? Are you a rapist?
No in general its not. And there's plenty of cases where men were ordered to pay CS even after a paternity test showed negative.
Demonstrate one (1), liar.
Hahahaha I may sympathize with Men's Rights activists but your the Nazi. You literally want debtor's prisons because of your ugly feminists belief that men are inherently deadbeats.
Not men, just you. You're a rapist and deadbeat apologist, and any community, especially a leftist one, will be better off without you.

Levi Taylor
Levi Taylor

It literally does.
The chief of police in Phoenix is a woman. Is Phoenix a matriarchal city state?
You don't have to step very far back into the newspaper archives to see how women were considered property a few weeks ago,
I guess nothing bad happened to dudes in that time huh?
100% of US Presidents have been male. It's not a coincidence.
No its not! Men have penises….all the presidents have penises! They all worked together to keep women out of office! even though women have had the right to vote for 100 years
It's a social fact that women have been oppressed by men for most of recorded history.
Its not though, you do realize there have been female rulers in history too right..
They probably called your dad.
Nope didn't call him either.
It's on behalf of children, retard.
No its not, why should men have to be forced to pay someone else to care for their children. And CS doesn't make you report a any receipts. You have no idea where that money is going.
No
Well why not? Its a female from the state shooting a man?
Right, and it's one to many, which is why Weinstein is going to prison.
Its not though, each woman's testimony is a sperate charge, that his testimony invidually rebutts.
When it's a rich man or a cop against a poor black man, they're as good as dead.
In your mind has a white woman or rich woman ever accused a black man of a crime falsely?
Whoever makes the kid pays. BOTH PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE KID.
So their equally culpable, so why are men paying women anything then?
that kid shouldn't have to have less than half the resources of every other member of his generation,
How would they have half the resources if each parent if fully supporting them when they are caring for them.
If you want to continue living in a society still based on institutions created to treat women and children as property, you will take responsibility
Its men that are getting treated like property with the threat of slavery. Children are just avenues ri grant women property rights over the labor of men.
Sure, I'd rather there be no property, so we could just take you out back and shoot you in the head when you're a deadbeat dad,
Lol your fascism is showing again. You want to be able to murder someone for not paying you a debt. You couldn't be more cucked to capitalism if you tried.
Fascists have never risen to power through revolution, always through the formal political process and existing government framework.
So because the government appointed Hitler makes Due process, something that was never evoked, at fault.
You do realize Hitler took away due process from jews by shunting them into a different court system right?
It kills innocent people more often.
The state has a have greater capacity to kill then any criminal. Look up "The innocence project" for a long list of people that were jailed but then released after DNA evidence proved them not guilty. An avenue they have because of due process.
For instance giving them a baby and making it so they can't work and are totally dependent on you for months at a time
Pregnant women work all the time. And women earn at parity to men now. So there's no dependency on men anymore.
and using that financial advantage to control the dynamics of the family,
Sorry but this kind of manipulation isnt common place. Sorry you have such shit taste in men.
but actually you should be allowed to do this with five women at a time and not take care of any of the children because you're such a victim
Lol more male bigotry. Again both genders want to raise their children, a small fraction don't.
Losing your company and no one working with you
Wasn't aware he lost his company, I meant state persecution anyway.
It would be very strange to give rapists a free pass.
It would be strange to let a select group of people proclaim others rapists with no obligation to prove it. That kind of power might be abused!
Demonstrate one (1), liar
csmonitor.com/2007/0209/p01s01-usju.html
Last week, the Florida justices ruled 7-0 against him. They said that Parker must continue to pay $1,200 a month in child support because he had missed the one-year postdivorce deadline for filing his lawsuit. His court-ordered payments would total more than $200,000 over 15 years to support another man's child.
You're a rapist and deadbeat apologist,
Ad hominems, the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Hudson Ramirez
Hudson Ramirez

laws and bodies of legal precedent explicitly biased against men are patriarchal
witch hunting lynch mobs constantly making up imaginary definitions for imaginary crimes are antifascist
#boohoo has actually brought porkies to "justice"
friedrich engels, a man who ejected 1st-wave feminists from the socialist internationale on grounds of class collaborationism, was feminist
9/11 bait, this is some top-tier prime choice shitposting you've got here. Glad to have you aboard.

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James Thompson
James Thompson

The chief of police in Phoenix is a woman. Is Phoenix a matriarchal city state?
Are women in control of all aspects of society? Do women comprise most of the police force? Does the city if Phoenix have women in the vast majority of leadership positions within the government, passing laws funded by lobbying groups comprised largely of women and bankrolled by corporations owned and operated by men?
I guess nothing bad happened to dudes in that time huh?
Yep, that's right men were considered property merely by virtue of their sex at birth 100 years ago. Good thing the women doctors don't rape men for their own good like they did 50 years ago. What's that? Women at google approving apps for Matriarchs in Iran to track their husbands and sons as property…
…looks at notes…
…yesterday?
No its not! Men have penises….all the presidents have penises! They all worked together to keep women out of office!
That's definitely not a straw man.
Its not though, you do realize there have been female rulers in history too right..
Yeah, weird how the vast majority of rulers in history were women
No its not, why should men have to be forced to pay someone else to care for their children. And CS doesn't make you report a any receipts. You have no idea where that money is going.
Because you created the child. You pay for it. Women aren't property, so they aren't required to submit an expense report to you, jackass. If you want the child do bad, win custody. Oh right, you can't because you're a deadbeat and a monster.
Not to mention the vast majority of the time custody and visitation rights are revoked it's because of domestic abuse.
Its not though, each woman's testimony is a sperate charge, that his testimony invidually rebutts.
Nice, so a rapist gets a voice for every woman he rapes.
In your mind has a white woman or rich woman ever accused a black man of a crime falsely?
In my mind, you're a rapist since your bread and butter issue is how rapist should have more rights than everyone else.
So their equally culpable, so why are men paying women anything then?
Women pay men when men are awarded custody. It just so happens it's easier for men to disappear after knocking a woman up. In fact, it seems men are deadbeats and abusers at about five times the rate of women.
How would they have half the resources if each parent if fully supporting them when they are caring for them.
They aren't. You think men should be able to move across the country and never pay a red cent to the raising of the child. That's less than half, since women make less than men on average.
Its men that are getting treated like property with the threat of slavery. Children are just avenues ri grant women property rights over the labor of men.
If you create a child, you owe that child care until the age of majority. If you don't provide it, you're a child abusing scumbag and you deserve no sympathy.
Lol your fascism is showing again. You want to be able to murder someone for not paying you a debt. You couldn't be more cucked to capitalism if you tried.
Yeah, murdering someone for abusing children is the same thing as murdering someone for missing a credit card payment, dumbass.
So because the government appointed Hitler makes Due process, something that was never evoked, at fault.
You do realize Hitler took away due process from jews by shunting them into a different court system right?
Nice, here comes the Hitler biography no one asked for, straight from the crusty keyboard of the Nazi rapist.
Pregnant women work all the time. And women earn at parity to men now. So there's no dependency on men anymore.
Lies. The wage gap has not closed, and the glass ceiling is still a thing.
Sorry but this kind of manipulation isnt common place.
It is.
Sorry you have such shit taste in men.
You don't get to choose your father, but your father made a choose when he disappeared across the country and left your mom with nothing.
Lol more male bigotry. Again both genders want to raise their children, a small fraction don't.
You're stupid. Most married couples get divorced now.
Wasn't aware he lost his company, I meant state persecution anyway.
It's almost like you were wrong. He also has been indicted.
It would be strange to let a select group of people proclaim others rapists with no obligation to prove it. That kind of power might be abused!
Dang, that freeze peach sure disappeared quickly when it was no longer being used as a defense for spamming hate speech. So you think you shouldn't even be allowed to accuse a rapist? That kind of power might be abused!

Connor Jenkins
Connor Jenkins

Are women in control of all aspects of society?
But men aren't either.
Do women comprise most of the police force?
It doesn't take the entire police force for one female cop to shoot one man
Does the city if Phoenix have women in the vast majority of leadership positions within the government, passing laws funded by lobbying groups comprised largely of women and bankrolled by corporations owned and operated by men?
So is patriarchy defined by a majority of men in power. Or the most powerful being men? Seems like you move the goal posts in this a lot
That's definitely not a straw man.
Its not, what difference does it make that all the presidents were men to the rest of men? And against explain all the WOMEN voting for these men for the last hundred years. Let me guess, men's fault too.
Yeah, weird how the vast majority of rulers in history were women
If its a patriarchy when men rule, was it a matriarchy when women ruled. I'm just asking you to define patriarchy.
Because you created the child. You pay for it.
So why are men paying women then. Men can buy the child's needs themselves
Women aren't property, so they aren't required to submit an expense report to you, jackass
How am I supposed to know if the money is actually supporting the child then?
If you want the child do bad, win custody.
I think a child should have both parents in their lives, making the parent with the kid pay incentives BOTH parents to share custody with each other. Instead of having them fight.
Oh right, you can't because you're a deadbeat and a monster.
Who determined that?
Not to mention the vast majority of the time custody and visitation rights are revoked it's because of domestic abuse.
Citation needed
Nice, so a rapist gets a voice for every woman he rapes.
Having state power checked is really nice isn't it.
In my mind, you're a rapist since your bread and butter issue is how rapist should have more rights than everyone else.
Has a rich woman or white woman ever accused a poor black man falsely of a crime or not in your mind?

Robert Bennett
Robert Bennett

Continued..
Women pay men when men are awarded custody.
Only 17 percent of men with primary custody get child support from women.
It just so happens it's easier for men to disappear after knocking a woman up
Lol, only in your man hating mind. And do women have any responsibility to have a child with a man that's interested in raising a child?
. In fact, it seems men are deadbeats and abusers at about five times the rate of women.
Think that may have something to do with women getting CS at six times the rate of men?
They aren't
Sure, most people with children support them fully.
You think men should be able to move across the country and never pay a red cent to the raising of the child.
I think men shouldn't be enslaved over debts. And I think the vast majority of men want to be in their child's life.
That's less than half, since women make less than men on average.
Lol so men should have to pay their baby mamas child support because their employers pay them less. Wage gap is a myth anyways

If you don't provide it, you're a child abusing scumbag and you deserve no sympathy.
Not paying your ex lover is not child abuse.
Nice, here comes the Hitler biography no one asked for, straight from the crusty keyboard of the Nazi rapist.
Poor baby, tried to conflate due process to the rise of fascism even though due process is one of the first things fascists try to dismantle.
Lies. The wage gap has not closed
scholar.harvard.edu/files/bolotnyy/files/be_gendergap.pdf
It is, men earn more because they work more hours of overtime.
and the glass ceiling is still a thing.
So is the glass floor
It is.
Its not, but women can go out and work now, so there's no dependency on men for money.
So you think you shouldn't even be allowed to accuse a rapist? That kind of power might
I think someone should be considered innocent until proven guilty.
Dang, that freeze peach sure disappeared quickly when it was no longer being used as a defense for spamming hate speech.
Accusing people of criminal offenses is a free speech issue

Kayden Taylor
Kayden Taylor

men earn more because they work more hours of overtime
Lie.
jec.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=9118a9ef-0771-4777-9c1f-8232fe70a45c
Not paying your ex lover is not child abuse.
Using your child's financial support as a bargaining chip is.
And against explain all the WOMEN voting for these men for the last hundred years. Let me guess, men's fault too.
Suffrage doesn't do anything because bourgeois electoralism is a scam. We do not have a democracy, so your vote does nothing. You can predict with near certainty who will win an election based on campaign spending, and guess which group has hundreds of years of head start accumulating capital to invest in campaigns?
So why are men paying women then. Men can buy the child's needs themselves
Not when you aren't allowed to see the child, for instance after having your visitation privileges revoked.
I think a child should have both parents in their lives
There are plenty of cases where a child should have one or neither. Unfortunately, people who shouldn't have children often do. There's no means testing for making babies. If you're incapable of providing for a child, you can still have them to your heart's content. If you have a babyfucking paraphilia, you can still make 5 of them.
Who determined that?
I'm guessing the courts
Having state power checked is really nice isn't it.
It's actually preferable to get out the torches and pitchforks when porky rapes every woman he sees.
Sure, most people with children support them fully.
Willful ignorance. Child abuse and neglect are incredibly common. Maybe in your bubble they don't exist, but the rest of us live in the real world.
I think men shouldn't be enslaved over debts.
Men shouldn't have children if they can't take care of them. If you lived in a small village commune and had a bunch of children that greatly burdened everyone else with new mouths to feed and refused to do any work, we'd still put you in chains and make you work, of we'd make you leave. You can skip the country on your responsibilities to your children now too.
Poor baby, tried to conflate due process to the rise of fascism even though due process is one of the first things fascists try to dismantle.
Due process is a legalism. You can suspend any legalism once you control the legal framework of government, entirely legally.
Its not, but women can go out and work now, so there's no dependency on men for money.
Children ALWAYS require money, and we don't live in a society where normal people can raise them on a single income without subsidy. If you have children, it is your responsibility to pay. If you don't like it, don't have children. If you don't want to pay alimony, don't trick a woman with less means than you into signing her life away on a vestigial ceremonial holdover from when women were property.
speech isn't a speech issue

Tyler Howard
Tyler Howard

Hello Zig Forums Please visit us!
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Jordan Price
Jordan Price

men don't even have a say in whether they have children, all they can do is hope their contraception works and if not they can be legally on the hook for a kid they never wanted and thrown in a debtors' prison.

Feminists can call themselves "left-wing" when they stop defending female porkies (vote Hillary!) and stop fighting to roll back hard-won rights as long as they perceive men as the victims.

Every idpol movement criticizes the harms capitalism does to their identity group, even nu-nazis. But if you're not willing to fight how capitalism hurts people outside said group, and adamant in defending your own group's privileges under capitalism, you're not a leftist.

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

men don't even have a say in whether they have children, all they can do is hope their contraception works and if not they can be legally on the hook for a kid they never wanted and thrown in a debtors' prison.
There is male birth control, and the fact that there wasn't until recently, despite the systemic effects of female birth control by comparison, is indicative of the systemic bias against women and women's interests.
Feminists can call themselves "left-wing" when…
No one needs your permission.
Every idpol
Right wing propaganda term that demonizes liberation movements and minimizes their concerns

Ryder Long
Ryder Long

Lie
Did the study you link take into account that men work more hours and more overtime like the more recent Harvard study did. Even the Bureau of Labor statistics hold this up
<according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), in 2017, men worked an average of 8.05 hours in an average day compared to 7.24 hours for women.
<Non-linearity helps explain why most of the gender pay gap occurs within professions, Goldin adds. The distribution of men and women in different occupations accounts for only 15 percent of the gap, and the remaining 85 percent arises within occupations. (For college graduates, those numbers are 35 percent and 65 percent, respectively.) In science and health professions, though, workers are more likely to be compensated at a constant rate for additional time worked, and the ratio of women’s earnings to men’s is higher—about .892. For occupations in business and finance, the ratio is .787, and for lawyers, .815, closer to the national gender wage gap.
harvardmagazine.com/2016/05/reassessing-the-gender-wage-gap
Can you please sum up the pertinent information in the study instead of just throwing a huge paper at people a bunch of which is not empirical evidence but thing like Congressional hearings.
Using your child's financial support as a bargaining chip is.
Yes, which is what women are doing. Women are the state don't offer men the chance to take custody six time less then women.
Suffrage doesn't do anything because bourgeois electoralism is a scam.
Lol, electoralism has gotten plenty changed. Capitalism is far less exploitative in the first world then it was in the 1800's.
I don't want to quibble about this but suffice to say plenty of great scholars have thought this including Marx himself.
We do not have a democracy, so your vote does nothing.
So all those women didn't pull the lever for all those men? Those votes from women were completely fraudulent LMAO.
You can predict with near certainty who will win an election based on campaign spending,
Lol no, Hilary Clinton outspent Donald Trump 2 to 1.
and guess which group has hundreds of years of head start accumulating capital to invest in campaigns?
That'd be the bourgeois. Again with this "Protocols of Zion" non sense.
Not when you aren't allowed to see the child, for instance after having your visitation privileges revoked.
Mostly men have their visitation rights taken away because of gender bias in the family courts
<The U.S. Census Bureau reports that nearly half of the fathers without any visitation rights still financially support their children.
You can't reconcile this without recognizing misandry. If the courts weren't favoring women, visitation rights would be roughly equal.
Also, somehow a man's labor is good enough for his child but not the man himself. This sums up the ugly misandry in your ideology in a nut shell.
Unfortunately, people who shouldn't have children often do.
Hahaha more of your Nazi eugenic believes emerging. There's not endemic of people having children that "shouldn't", whatever that means protip it means poor. We have a welfare state, if a woman OR a man can't or won't support their child, have the welfare state do it. Women are not thrown in jail for not being able to support children they birth, but men are.
I'm guessing the courts
Only in your mind filled with spectures of evil men ready at at moments notice to rape you lol.
It's actually preferable to get out the torches and pitchforks when porky rapes every woman he sees.
Hahaha there's tons of sexual assault cases far less contentious then Trump and Weinstein. Only difference is those women were poor, and often so were their assailants.
Where were your feminist pitchforks for them? This isn't whataboutism, feminists exlude these cases to endless caterwaul about high profile ones. Shouldn't it not matter if the rape victim and rapists were rich?
Liberals like you have NO interest is ending sexual abuse against women. You are only interested in social climbing and ending Due Process so you can use it as a kludge to exploit men.
Pic related on why we need to keep Due Process in the cases of sexual assualt

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Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

Continued…
Willful ignorance. Child abuse and neglect are incredibly common.
Citation needed. And prove how many times visitation rights were revoked because of PROVEN allegations of child abuse. Child abuse is a criminal offense, but often visitation is revoked solely on the word of the mother.
Maybe in your bubble they don't exist, but the rest of us live in the real world.
nice strawman
If you lived in a small village commune and had a bunch of children that greatly burdened everyone else with new mouths to feed and refused to do any work,
LMAO, there's more then enough resources for people now. Your Nazi Malthusian beliefs are showing again.
we'd still put you in chains and make you work
NO IDIOT! That's slavery, and a fucking slippery slope. No one should get the labor of someone eles for free. And it takes two to tango, what is it about this idealist completely non existent commune that makes women have children with a guy that already has other neglected kids.
or we'd make you leave.
Lol, agreed, but your obviously more interested in enslaving men.
You can skip the country on your responsibilities to your children now too.
So we should enslave all men that can't pay a woman that had their baby because an a vanishingly small amount of men are assholes. And what about women that abondon their children? Should they owe child support into perpetuity to whoever adopts their child?
Due process is a legalism. You can suspend any legalism once you control the legal framework of government, entirely legally
And enslavement or debt isn't? And Due process is a check on state power, while slavery empowers the state.
Children ALWAYS require money,
Which we have a welfare state for
and we don't live in a society where normal people can raise them on a single income without subsidy.
Okay, so that justifies slavery? Also is this the fault of prole men that can't pay CS? Oh in your mind it is because most of the bourgeoisie have penises.
If you have children, it is your responsibility to pay. If you don't like it, don't have children.
Agreed, which is why WOMEN shouldn't be paid child support. If WOMEN can't support the children they have and the MAN can, they should fork over the kid. No one should be paying anyone else for their failure to sujpport their kid.
If you don't want to pay alimony, don't trick a woman with less means than you into signing her life away on a vestigial ceremonial holdover from when women were property.
LMAO, what exactly in a marriage keeps women from continuing to work?

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Gavin Perry
Gavin Perry

There is male birth control, and the fact that there wasn't until recently,
There's not male abortion. Hell I'll take a legal financial abortion.
despite the systemic effects of female birth control by comparison,
They could just not have sex outside of marriage. This goes for men as well. But this really gets to the heart of your backward beliefs, that the sexuality of women is sacrosanct even when it harms the welfare of children.
Having sex outside a committed relationship like marriage because you can always have an unplanned pregnancy. Telling women that is literal rape to you and you prefer men be literally enslaved instead lol.
No one needs your permission.
Yeah, you do.
Right wing propaganda term that demonizes liberation movements and minimizes their concerns
What's right wing about due process?

Lucas Ross
Lucas Ross

Every idpol movement criticizes the harms capitalism does to their identity group, even nu-nazis. But if you're not willing to fight how capitalism hurts people outside said group, and adamant in defending your own group's privileges under capitalism, you're not a leftist.
Great insight, our universalism and systemic thinking is what separates us from them, both ideologically and as people. Bravo user.

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Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

Every idpol movement criticizes the harms capitalism does to their identity group, even nu-nazis. But if you're not willing to fight how capitalism hurts people outside said group, and adamant in defending your own group's privileges under capitalism, you're not a leftist.
Nailed it. Funny how the idpol folks will (correctly) point out that bringing up socialism at an idpol organization is offtopic, but will endlessly derail a socialist org with idpol.

Dominic Lee
Dominic Lee

They could just not have sex outside of marriage. This goes for men as well. But this really gets to the heart of your backward beliefs, that the sexuality of women is sacrosanct even when it harms the welfare of children.

Having sex outside a committed relationship like marriage because you can always have an unplanned pregnancy. Telling women that is literal rape to you and you prefer men be literally enslaved instead lol.

what the fuck lol

individual choices to have sex or not do not harm children.

capitalism, private ownership of the means of production, and wage labor alienate humans from the material conditions of their production and reproduction, harming the welfare of our children

read a book

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/origin_family.pdf

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

If you support slavery (to literal capitalists, at that! under threat of debtors' prison!) why call yourself a leftist? The left's fundamental project is the emancipation of all humanity, so all you'll do is confuse people. FitzHugh may have used the word "socialism" to describe his proposed system but he's hardly anyone's example of a left-wing thinker.

You'll find a lot more people who share your perspective on the libertarian or even the fascist right.

David Davis
David Davis

individual choices to have sex or not do not harm children.
It does when said mother cannot provide for their children. Which is what the moral rational is behind Child Support.
The child will go hungry if the father doesn't pay so we need the state to threaten enslavement to ensure that doesn't occur.
My argument is with the current welfare state this is just a kludge to enslave mostly men, although to a far smaller degree women are enslaved as well in the prison industrial complex.
capitalism, private ownership of the means of production, and wage labor alienate humans from the material conditions of their production and reproduction, harming the welfare of our children
I understand all this, we are arguing about about Child Support within a liberal reformist paradigm.
read a book
Take your own advice, Marx himself said that reformism and and revolutionary praxis were a false dichotomy. To quote the French Yellow Jacket movement "We want cash while we wait for communism."

Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

It does when said mother cannot provide for their children. Which is what the moral rational is behind Child Support.
No, child support cuts both ways. Women are also convicted of neglect all the time, and plenty of women have been jailed for refusing to pay child support. You just want to go back to a time when you could treat women and children as property. That time is never coming back, and your attempts to stop us from progressing toward gender equality and women's liberation will do about as much as pissing into the wind.
By all means, paint a giant target on your back and get kicked out of every leftist organization you join though. If you actually wanted to false flag you could learn a few things from COINTELPRO and divide from further left rather than bringing your Asserism and Dugin dicksucking from /pol/. I'm guessing that's all you've read though.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

individual choices to have sex or not do not harm children.

on a psychological basis yes they do

Chase Powell
Chase Powell

lol he said a lot of dumb shit, and I was pissed no one called him out.

wah wah feminist call me names
lol

all women who go to college become slut, liberal art graduates, and failures
He must have never heard of a successful woman in his life or his sister is a college slut.

men are oppressed because muh war and muh work
implying women not having the ability to be the breed winner is an advantage, yeah now all a women has to do is force herself to stay with a husband or if she doesn't than she better have a good Dad or she starves. Yeah it must feel so good being a women where your life depends on if the men around you want you alive or not.

monopoly on how children are raised
actually good point, but the reason why is because men are not trusted with children and women like being around kids more than men, this is just a society and I don't think it will change unless we allow more men to act feminine.

men listen to their wives
except for all those men who abused and raped theirs

capitalism prospers from gender equality in the work place because it doubles production
So his communist society wont take advantage of x2 output, that seems like a waste.

goes on about fertility god and how the only good woman is mother
this is just objectification of women as having only one use, to make babies, and that summarizes all you see women as, baby making machines. I disagree with that, I feel as if the woman wants to be a full time mom we should let her but if another woman wants to be the town slut and work as doctor then she should. And this may surprise you but not all mothers are happy only being a mother their whole life, the ones I've spoken with feel as if they wasted all their potential and they envy the women who got to explore their choices. Your assumption on these modern women sounds like you have never talked to a older childless women outside the internet and you can't accept that a life outside of the traditional family is a happy one. You need to go out and actually talk to woman and ask them what makes them happy rather than wrongly assume.

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Gavin Scott
Gavin Scott

I can't tell if some one is LARPing as a stereotypical feminists with daddy issues or real feminist with no self awareness and completely unaware how bad she's projecting her own insecurities.

Colton Roberts
Colton Roberts

Fuck both of those things.
Thanks for your support of our crusade to lower the age of consent, which feminists raised with their voting rights not because they had any evidence that a man fucking a teenage girl was harmful (it's not) but out of jealousy that men would rather fuck teenage girls than anyone else.

If you really cared about left unity your goal wouldn't be to expel women and women's issues from leftism. You think everything is hunky dory now that women have suffrage, but suffrage does nothing because bourgeois electoralism is a scam.
So how did the age of consent get raised if women voting for all those feminist candidates did nothing? It must have been that gosh-darned patriarchy removing teenage girls' rights again. Those bastards.

women were considered property a few weeks ago
But that patriarchal shitlord Donald Trump signed a bill two weeks ago to bring an end to the legal ownership of women. This bill required the immediate release of my back-rubbing slave girl, who is now re-employed as my back-rubbing indentured servant girl since feminists constantly shouted down anyone who wanted to focus on economic issues.

Easton Cruz
Easton Cruz

Proof repealing prohibition was a mistake
The FAS is real

John Brooks
John Brooks

yeah now all a women has to do is force herself to stay with a husband or if she doesn't than she better have a good Dad or she starves.
Wow, I’m seriously wondering if you are schizo user. The vast majority of divorces are initiated by women.
Yeah it must feel so good being a women where your life depends on if the men around you want you alive or not.
This reeks of some kind of past trauma from an abusive relationship or parent. Come on user, you having a laugh?
except for all those men who abused and raped theirs
Men are raped more than women because of our prison system, and men who are raped are mostly raped by women
<But among men reporting other forms of sexual victimization, 68.6% reported female perpetrators,” the paper reports, while among men reporting being made to penetrate, “the form of nonconsensual sex that men are much more likely to experience in their lifetime … 79.2% of victimized men reported female perpetrators.”
theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/11/the-understudied-female-sexual-predator/503492/
You’re retarded
Well at least I’m happy, can’t be spooked if I’m to stupid, you on the other hand….

Ethan Lopez
Ethan Lopez

I'm leaning toward the middle possibility of "milquetoast Reddit feminist flustered at the number of MRAs here, pretending to be a radfem", because most of their arguments are just off the cuff mirror images of MRA arguments they see in the thread, rather than the mostly much different though equally insane arguments I usually see feminazis using in the wild.

Oh dear, not you lot again. Go back to trolling Dysnomia with your extensive collection, or maybe try our AoC thread:

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

That feminist was just pretending to be retarded.
But she’s so convincing.

Joshua Johnson
Joshua Johnson

lol he said a lot of dumb shit, and I was pissed no one called him out.
You mean that people didn't reply to a stupid statement on the internet? ZOMG alert the sisters!

Joshua Price
Joshua Price

Speaking from experience, it is impossible to make a parody of feminism so ridiculous that there isn't someone who really believes that shit. Tbf, this goes for a lot of ideologies.

Liam Ortiz
Liam Ortiz

Tbf, this goes for a lot of ideologies.
the difference is with feminism it's the norm, and even leaders of the movement sound like parody. While other movements it's just a few extremists who reach that point.

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Jaxson Rivera
Jaxson Rivera

LOL go back to whichever internet shithole you crawled out of.
Refute anything he said. You can't.

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Henry Butler
Henry Butler

Anti-feminism can't be egalitarian by definition

Hudson Edwards
Hudson Edwards

Only thing with feminism to set it apart that I can figure is not enough people willing to call bullshit on bullshit with feminists, so the echo chamber intensifies worse than other idpol.

Lena Dunham is slated to throw her weight behind Hillary Clinton
There's no way that's not an edit. In all seriousness though, people like her and Amy Schumer getting to represent feminism is actually kind of good in the same way as Trump being open about America's shittiness is kind of good.

it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman.
Putting aside that the sentiment here is abhorrent, this is ignoring cases where a woman uses her fingers or an object to penetrate someone, i.e. most cases of women raping women.

Can you define feminism, anti-feminism, and egalitarian then?

Elijah Smith
Elijah Smith

Can you define feminism
female supremacy morally rationalized by the "Protocols of Zion" tier Patriarchy theory.
anti-feminism
One that critiques this paranoid conspiracy, also MRA's that use the same rational that feminists used in the past that to address their issues. That disproportionate oppression by the state or society proves the existence of a bias to that gender.
egalitarian
Some one willing to address issues of sexism on a case by case basis. Recognizing that each gender can be oppressed in different ways, but that doesn't necessitate the idea that one gender is conspiring against the other.

Andrew Anderson
Andrew Anderson

Feminism:
A social theory or political movement which argues that legal and social restrictions on women must be removed in order to bring about equality of the sexes in all aspects of public and private life.
Antifeminism:
Opposition to feminism
Egalitarianism:
The political doctrine that holds that all people in a society should have equal rights from birth.
Patriarchy:
A power structure in which men are dominant
Hey look, no conspiracy!
If that's too vague for you:
Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property. Some patriarchal societies are also patrilineal, meaning that property and title are inherited by the male lineage.

Patriarchy is associated with a set of ideas, a patriarchal ideology that acts to explain and justify this dominance and attributes it to inherent natural differences between men and women. Sociologists tend to see patriarchy as a social product and not as an outcome of innate differences between the sexes and they focus attention on the way that gender roles in a society affect power differentials between men and women.[1][2]

Historically, patriarchy has manifested itself in the social, legal, political, religious, and economic organization of a range of different cultures.[3] Even if not explicitly defined to be by their own constitutions and laws, most contemporary societies are, in practice, patriarchal.[4][5]

Wow, still no conspiracy! Read a book.

Michael Ramirez
Michael Ramirez

A power structure in which men are dominant
The bourgeois are all men, so men are dominant
Bourgeois ain’t even all men anymore. You’re accusing someone of something based on an inalienable trait, litterally what Nazis do.
Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership,
Replace men with Jews…..see how crazy this sounds.
and control of property.
How much property do prole women own compared to prole men. You don’t even know because your sisters never look at class. They just average all the property male bourgeois have with ever male and BAM! The patriarchy!
Oh shit, the this old ass banker is Jewish! See! Proof that Jews control the world!
Sociologists tend to see patriarchy as a social product and not as an outcome of innate differences between the sexes and they focus attention on the way that gender roles in a society affect power differentials between men and women.
Anything bad that happens to men more like the glass floor where men work the most dangerous and lowest paying jobs, isn’t blamed on a social system where women hold power, it’s blamed on men lmao. You’re patriarchy theory litterally holds men culpable for their own oppression, even if women are spared.
Listen if men hold such dominate power, why would they use it to get themselves killed more lol.
Wow, still no conspiracy! Read a book.
You just outlined a case conspiracy. I’d tell you to get laid but I know that ain’t happening.

Brandon Edwards
Brandon Edwards

Men are in power.
Hillary Clinton embezzled 100s of millions intended for Haitian relief. Margaret Thatcher began the neoliberalization of the UK. Did they do this because of patriarchy?
When bad shit happens to women it’s men’s fault because men hold powerful positions.
When bad shit happens to women when women are in power it’s mens fault because they wouldn’t have done it unless men made them.
When bad shit happens to men it’s men’s fault because they follow other men cause they got dicks too.
This is patriarchy in a nutshell.

Bentley King
Bentley King

Pathetic

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

How has all these men in power helped men out of power? Property is mentioned, but if you do realize this is more a issue of race and a result of the historical material legacy of slavery that white women like you are trying to Coopt in a naked power grab.
<African Americans, despite making up 13 percent of the population, own less than 1 percent of rural land in the country. The combined value of this land: $ 14 billion.

<White Americans, by comparison, own more than 98 percent of U.S. land amounting to 856 million acres with a total worth of over $1 trillion.
inequality.org/research/owns-land/

That 98 percent number for whites is lobsided by the fact that the bourgeois are mostly white as well, but poverty is still disproportionately concentrated in minority communities because of the long history of slavery and genocide that continues into this day.
Slavery that you want to persevere via child support debtors prisons.
Spooked.

Anthony Kelly
Anthony Kelly

MUH IDPOL

Jose Bailey
Jose Bailey

Why should it be?

Blake Sullivan
Blake Sullivan

I have no argument, so I must meme
Pwned

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Charles Walker
Charles Walker

anti-misandry can't be egalitarian by definition
lol wtf are you talking about? Most egalitarians are anti-feminist. Most feminists are anti-egalitarian. If you hate men, you are not an egalitarian.
Feminism
You forgot the other half of the definition: A movement which argues that men's issues don't deserve to be addressed and which fights against people who want equality for men.
Antifeminism
Because feminism is both pro-female and anti-male, anti-feminists can be either anti-woman or pro-equality. You know which kind is more common on Zig Forums
Egalitarianism:
so anti-feminism, since most feminists are against men's rights.

Benjamin Rivera
Benjamin Rivera

Feminism: Cancer

Hudson Lopez
Hudson Lopez

epic, simply epic

Evan Perry
Evan Perry

Tbh women deserve to be raped

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Luis King
Luis King

More fun xD

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Colton Evans
Colton Evans

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Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

Reported, enjoy your ban.

Colton Lopez
Colton Lopez

Lol faggot

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Liam Perez
Liam Perez

Lol butt mad storm cuck

Alexander Sanchez
Alexander Sanchez

anyone who triggers me is a stormcuck
lol

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Justin Foster
Justin Foster

I reported you again, my jimmies are throughly rustled by you autism that keeps you from have white babies with a white woman. You can leave anytime now, mission accomplished.

Aiden Thomas
Aiden Thomas

More like anyone that’s clearly a sociopath is a storm cuck. If only you could hold that crazy in long enough to get laid, oh well I guess the white race dies with you.

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

user why post that? Don’t you know that disturbs people. Seems like your relishing the suffering of people your posting. You ever torture small animals growing up?
You ever consider a career in the CIA?

Jaxon Taylor
Jaxon Taylor

muh sturmcuck
anyone I don't like is an ebul nazee
implying I'm white
lol, I suppose your childish worldview needs boogiemen to work.

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Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

If you get disturbed by a bit of gore in an imageboard you don't belong here faggot

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Samuel Mitchell
Samuel Mitchell

implying I'm white
Implying you have to be white to be a class cucked Nazi
anyone I don't like is an ebul nazee
Anyone that calls me a Nazi is just a dumb dumb
lol, I suppose your childish worldview needs boogiemen to work.
Implying Nazis are boogiemen

Logan Campbell
Logan Campbell

muh edgelord hug box
I ain’t going no where, you’ll tucker yourself out eventually.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

Okay okay I’m really the pussy for being disturbed by actually human suffering, you got me. But do you have anything to say about the subject at hand i.e. anti feminism

Adrian Nelson
Adrian Nelson

Your still a faggot though
muh safespace hugbox
your breath stinks of cum
nothing, women are faggots, like 90% of men

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Wyatt Stewart
Wyatt Stewart

Your still a faggot though
Straight men don’t keep catalogs of dick sucking videos and erect penises like you do sweaty.
And why isn’t sage working for me!?
Anyway as user clearly demonstrates feminism is an ideology of fascists.

Jayden Fisher
Jayden Fisher

Wew lad

Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks

Like your gay mum

Ayden Howard
Ayden Howard

white

No. Jews are not white. Some of the rich are white but it's 50/50

Ryder Reyes
Ryder Reyes

LOL at the feminists getting butthurt over a chan board, explicitly opposed to the weaponization and slacktivism of identity politics, that opposses first worldist feminism.

Look, ladies. Caring about women means actual mobilization and involvement in politics, humanitarian aid and abolishing the very system that exploits you: capitalism. You sure as fuck love counting far more enemies on the left, even potential allies, under your moral purity test, than actually getting involved in political/social movements that benefit your sex/gender. All you like to do is massive virtue signalling and throwing bitchfits over meaningless shit like "muh sexist media" and "I'm gonna moan and cry because some random asshole on twitter/facebook/(insert random social media) called me a bitch".

And no. Class is not all that matters, but it's what matters most. Your so called "problems" are merely first world problems. I'm pretty damn sure over 90% of internet feminists live in 1st world countries and already enjoy legal equality. You're just making a tempest in a teapot. If your biggest issue as a woman is some random incel dipshit spewing misogynist garbage, then you´re the textbook definition of bourgeois and your struggles does not matter, at all.

Bentley Perry
Bentley Perry

Who are you talking to?

Wyatt Garcia
Wyatt Garcia

Yes they are. The belong to precisely the same phenotype as other white people. The only way that you could rightly cliam that jews aren't white would be to divorce the concept of race from genetics. Would you do that?

Ryder Lewis
Ryder Lewis

We shouldn’t even allow one thread of feminist idpol on this board. /leftypol/ literally has tranny and woman threads up right now and is letting them go untouched. It’s one step away from that. Feminism is NOT leftism, gender delusions are NOT Leftism. No one cares about muh vagina.

Dylan Edwards
Dylan Edwards

Feminism is a capitalist ploy. More women in the workforce means more potential workers competing with each other, which keeps wages low

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

The feminazi retards on this thread.

Connor Jackson
Connor Jackson

Why do I get the feeling the anti Zig Forums thread on /leftypol/ was made by the same feminists that got destroyed in the anti feminist thread we have here?

Andrew Edwards
Andrew Edwards

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Lincoln Collins
Lincoln Collins

Because they are the same /pol/ retards that now want to seize /leftypol/. Given that /leftypol/ loves nazbols and tankies, I'm pretty sure they'll enjoy a warm welcome.

Colton Murphy
Colton Murphy

Feminists have total control of the Democrats and liberal parties in other countries. The only thing that threatens their power is an actual leftwing movement. It's why feminism has destroyed every leftwing space and why they went after Bernie so hard. They've already infiltrated /leftypol/ to an extent, which is why the mods banned everybody before Zig Forums was created.

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