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Deutsch/pol/ Nr.215 - Schlacht am Kahlenberg Edition
Carter Clark
Eli Ward
Merkel, German intel chief clash on 'foreigner hunt' reports
yahoo.com
The head of Germany's domestic intelligence agency Friday raised doubts about reports of a "hunt on foreigners" by neo-Nazi mobs in a flashpoint city last month, directly contradicting Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Weighing in on an issue that has reignited the immigration debate in the country, agency chief Hans-Georg Maassen told the daily Bild that he had "no proof that the video circulating on the internet" showing foreign-looking people being accosted and chased "is authentic".
"I share the scepticism about media reports of right-wing extremist foreigner hunts in Chemnitz," the eastern city that has seen several far-right rallies since the killing of a German man, allegedly by asylum seekers, in late August.
"Based on my cautious assessment, there are good reasons to believe that this was intentional false information, possibly to detract attention from the murder in Chemnitz," Maassen said.
He offered no evidence for his theory. Until now, only far-right supporters had claimed on social media that the video in question was a fake.
Extremist groups and thousands of local citizens took to the streets in the days after the fatal stabbing, with a number of participants shouting anti-foreigner slurs and flashing the illegal Nazi salute.
In a spasm of violence that shocked the country, marauding mobs also assaulted reporters and police.
The day after the first Chemnitz demonstration on August 26, Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert quickly condemned the scenes, including speaking of protesters "hunting down" foreigners.
Merkel herself has repeatedly used the phrase in the ensuing heated debate, adding that "hate in the streets" has no place in Germany.
However, this week the premier of Saxony, Michael Kretschmer, pushed back against the accounts of events in his state, telling the regional assembly there had been "no mob, no hunting of foreigners and no pogroms".
- 'Hate in the streets' -
Seibert declined to comment directly on the controversy Friday, stating only that "we have said everything there is to be said" and that the BfV chief has an "important job with many responsibilities".
But Maassen's comments drew fire from the government parties and the opposition, with the Greens calling them "frankly absurd" and a "frontal attack" against Merkel.
Police said that several people have come forward saying they were assaulted, including a Syrian, a Bulgarian and an Afghan.
A freelance journalist working for respected weekly Die Zeit posted videos on Twitter and several tweets describing demonstrators aggressively running after foreign-looking people and hurling xenophobic insults.
A video by an anonymous user showing such scenes was widely picked up by other media outlets and human rights groups.
An analysis of the video commissioned by ARD public television concluded Friday that based on weather conditions, geographic data and corroborating reports by journalists and other witnesses, it was most likely authentic.
It also cited similar videos posted on far-right pages on Facebook.
- 'Mother of all problems' -
Later Friday, the anti-immigrant group "Pro Chemnitz" was to hold another rally in Chemnitz, followed by a concert with counter-protesters called "Stronger Together" urging support for "openness and diversity".
The highly unusual open clash between Merkel and Maassen comes as the so-called Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) has faced scrutiny over its handling of two high-profile cases.
Critics accuse the BfV of failing to follow up on key leads in the investigation of a neo-Nazi cell that murdered 10 mainly immigrant victims, and in the run-up to a deadly jihadist truck attack against a Christmas market in Berlin in 2016.
It also emerges as a tense truce within Merkel's government over immigration that had held since July crumbled over the turmoil in Chemnitz.
On Thursday, Merkel's hardline interior minister Horst Seehofer, her most vocal critic within the cabinet, defended the protests and blasted immigration as "the mother of all political problems".
A new poll Friday indicated that Germans are dubious about Merkel's migration policy, with 69 percent saying in a survey for public broadcaster ARD that they think integration of newcomers is not working.
Merkel in 2015 left the border open to more than one million asylum seekers when other EU states moved to shut them out – a policy that sharply divided German voters.
Sebastian Garcia
Schwachsinnige Forderungen eines schwachen Mannes.
Grenzmauern sind bei Wertecucks beliebt, die zwar keine Neger und Musel im Land wollen, aber nicht bereit sind sich die Finger schmutzig zu machen. Also baut man ganz passiv eine Mauer und freut sich, dass sie nicht drüberkommen.
Dumm nur, dass sie drüberkommen. Und je schlechter die Mauer geschützt wird und je weniger Konsequenzen ein versuchter Übertritt hat, desto mehr werden es versuchen und auch schaffen. Aber weil solche Cucks nicht bereit sind Gewalt anzuwenden um die Grenzen zu verteidigen kann man sich vorstellen, worauf es hinausläuft. Am Ende wird man Szenen wie bei Ceuta sehen, wo sie zu hunderten drüberklettern. Und wenn sich dann einer beim Versuch das Genick bricht haben diese Humanisten auch noch ein schlechtes Gewissen.
Deutschland braucht keine Mauern. Wir haben keinen kurzen Grenzabschnitt, wo sich alles konzentriert und man durch sie effizient Übertritte einzudämmen kann. Was wir brauchen ist die Bereitschaft unsere Existenz mit allen Mitteln zu verteidigen. Wenn jemand auffällt der kein Recht hat sich in Deutschland aufzuhalten wird er festgenommen und danach nie mehr gesehen. Die Vergabe von Staatsbürgerschaften wird rückwirkend aufgehoben. Schutz und Asyl werden statt einem Anspruch zum Gnadenrecht, und die EU-Freizügigkeit zurückgefahren. So verteidigt man eine Grenze. Scheiß auf Mauern und auf Wertecucks.
Jonathan Phillips
Bewußt absurd.
"Was wollt ihr denn machen, etwa auf kleine Kinder schiessen?"
Reduktio ad absurdum, eine möglichst extremistische Variante wählen um die an sich sinnvolle Maßnahme der Kontrolle über die Grenzen und das Territorium des Staates wiederherzustellen ins absurd lächerliche zu ziehen.
Carter Anderson
Stimme dem zu.
Die kommen ja rein, weil wir keinen Grenzschutz haben und die Negerlein sogar über Italien reinschiffen.
Als ob der Türkenimport damals von ner deutschen Mauer verhindert worden wäre.
Die hat man ja auch als Gastarbeiter in nem trojanischen Pferd eingeschleust. Da hilft ne Mauer gar nicht!
Grenzschutz statt Trojamauer!
Levi Jones
Cameron Ortiz
Nimm deine Pillen, du armer Irrer
Henry Richardson
#WIRsindmehr
Wie war das? Ich versteh dich nicht mit dem beschnittenen Penis im Mund, Cucki.
Colton Cox
Josiah Howard
Ist nicht gut, aber das solltest du selbst wissen, gibt genügend Fäden auf /pol zu dem Thema.