Shorten the border before building the wall

Unfortunately, this will give us the Baja. But at least that will pay for the wall. The Baja will be worth $trillions once the gringos bring water to it.

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Wouldn't it be even shorter if we moved the US border here

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Uh, no. It's full of mexicans, I say we lengthen the border by kicking california out of the union.

Lurk 2 years before posting, nigger.

Then you would need a heavy coastguard presence to patrol the gulf. A thread died for this.

You don't even need a wall. All you need is Mexican hunting permits. Illegal immigration is guaranteed to drop to nothing as soon as people realize it is really happening.

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Fuck your shit slide thread. Livestream your suicide, insufferable goat fucking faggot. Sage for wasting my time.

this

Any available funds will go to building walls in the ME and to israels pockets.

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Wunderbar.

We didnt take mexico in the first was for the same reason we wont now. Its full of mexicans, most of you dont understand the diffrence between nationalism and patriotism empire and country. The hunk of the land doesnt matter the people do.

what a miserable cunt you are.
You post the same tripe to every thread posted here.
Do yourself a favor and kill yourself since you are so miserable.

You make it sound so easy …

1. Put effort into your threads.
2. WE WON’T BE LEAVING ANYONE ALIVE WHEN WE EXPAND THE BORDERS OF THIS COUNTRY.
3. There won’t BE a fucking border wall, you retard, nor will there be deportations.

Literally kill yourself. You’re completely worthless. You have no plan. You have no goals. You have no ideas, even. This thread is worthless. We won’t be expanding our borders unless the country is fully white.

No, we didn’t take it because the negotiator was a literal SJW and disobeyed the president and Congress, negotiating for a southern border 600 miles north of where Congress told him to draw it. No, I’m not fucking kidding. And stop pretending that we won’t be killing or expelling nonwhites in lands we conquer, dipshit. Holy fucking hell, you’re a coward.

What?

That's dumb I'd rather my country be more powerful

but do you have anything to back up this claim

Yeah, six seconds of research that anyone can do. Read some of the diary entries of Nicolas Trist. He was an SJW nearly two centuries before the term even existed.
“My feeling of shame as an American was far stronger than the Mexicans' could be.”
>Polk recalled Trist that October. The Virginian brooded over the news, then boldly refused to leave Mexico and continued negotiations to end the war. On February 2, 1848, Trist completed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, an outline for the cessation of hostilities. Polk, furious over Trist’s insubordination, accepted the document based on its merits, but fired Trist anyway, and refused to pay him wages beyond October 1847.

THIS is the border on which Congress voted and the president signed after the Mexican American War. Nicolas Trist committed TREASON and signed a treaty with the border hundreds of miles further north.
THIS IS WHAT AMERICA WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.

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Why didn't Polk redo it and kill that bastard? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This is what America SHOULD look like.

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Backlash at home. We were still occupying the entirety of Mexico at the time, but he was afraid that Congress wouldn’t accept another vote cycle (which honestly probably wouldn’t have been needed) for a new treaty, much less the hit to international relations of all sorts by the act of “tearing up” a treaty. The British and French wouldn’t have liked it (and would have capitalized on “The Americans are imperialists, too!”, even though they understood it was treason that caused it. It should have been done, you’re absolutely right, but the public knew the war was won, and at any rate, it would’ve looked like furthering the slave state ambitions, too.

Why don't we just kill the Mexicans?

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You don't want Mexicans and especially Cucknadians to have voting rights. That would be the worst thing that could happen to us. You'd need to forcibly remove Taco AND Cuckold, and most of the serious next level cuckolds shitting up Canada are in fact white men Amazingly enough.

This is all rightful American clay, slay the mexicunt and cuban squatters on our new states… Jackson, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Jefferson, Kennedy and Ford island.

what's stopping you?

He's just larping to feel cool.

the border is not the 'be all to end all'; it's just phase I. we're taking everything including Guatemala, pushing them in El Salvador and Honduras where they're forced to clean up their mess and built sustainable, functional societies or die on the vine.

Eventually it'll extend to the southernmost tip of Argentina, finally spics can't complain that America will be an appropriate name for the country… however they'll all be dead so it doesn't matter.

t. trotskyist kike subversives posing as neoimperialists

Fuck off.

This

This.
What we NEED is o REMOVE THE BEANS from the land that is ALREADY part of the USA.
We (White America) are not even holding onto the land we ALREADY HAVE.


History suggests that you are 100% wrong.

Then there will be White genocide.
It MAY be possible to rekindle the spirit of Nationalism (not CivNat faggotry) in the hearts of White America and go about ending all immigration and deporting all non-Whites, but I EXTREMELY doubt that any significant number of White Americans will ever support any form of overt genocide. Even in the case of economic collapse and racial warfare, I suspect that Whites would seek a "tolerant" solution to "restore peace" as soon as possible. This will be disastrous in the long run, obviously. That said, reestablishing White Nationalist rule will likely not occur through voting alone even in the best possible scenarios. The point is that a LOT more Whites would support "deport them all" than would ever support killings. So it seems to me.


This.
Again, White America is losing control of the lands we ALREADY HAVE.
THAT is what needs to be fixed. The way to fix it is to deport all the non-Whites and kikes of all races. Also remove the traitors who have been COMPLICIT in the ongoing genocide of White America.
Build the wall and dump the beans south of the border. Clear the squatters from Liberia and escort the basketball Americans to "New Wakanda." Send all the pure blooded non Whites to their ethnic homelands. Put all the "homeless mixlings" into the now almost-empty Southern California and give them the choice to surrogate and raise White children or remain childless (or leave the country if they want). The feather Indians have their reservations. Lands outside the CONUSA and Alaska are special cases given their natives, history, etc. They should perhaps be reclassified as protectorates or something.
Most would leave voluntarily if the gibs were shut off and a substantial deportation bounty was offered.
Again, so it seems to me.


If America had acquired the northern half of Mexico back then they would not have "killed or expelled" the Mexicans.


What is "your country?"
Unless you are a billionaire, a member of an "elite family," or a kike, it's not the current USA regime.


Jackson: yes
Eisenhower: no (does "death camps killing 2 million Germans in West Germany post WW2" ring any bells?)
Roosevelt: yes if Teddy, hell no if shabbos to the max franklin.
Jefferson: yes
Kennedy: yes if JFK, no if any other Kennedy
Ford island: yes if Henry Ford, no if President Ford

Much of the area opposite the Baja is inhabited desert. Patrol the Gulf of Cali with gunboats and have some checkpoints on the peninsula to catch an illegals heading north.The Rio Grande is a bigger problem because it's not much of a barrier.

In any event, I would first invade Mexico (again), exterminate the gangs and install a puppet gov't.

This is why NAFTA is dead. Don't need a treaty when you just annex.

Can you imagine how quickly the US could gentrify that shithole

If I was trump I would basically put in the motions to Annex Cuba.

I would work with the locals to rebuild Cuba & turn it into the Vegas of the Caribbean. Locals from the gulf of Mexico states would benefit because tourist could go gamble a little bit, their wife's & daughters could hit the beach, Husband & sons could go fishing. There are also attractions such as NASA rocket launches, Disney land,ect.

Vegas is such a dump of it's climate. I would also work so that Locals who catch a nice trophy fish could process the meat,and take it home with them on dry ice.

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Way too long. Cut straight across the isthmus at its narrowest point. Then deport all the more troublesome mestizos across it to C America. My Baja plan may be just a first step, depending on how it goes.

Why not just annex that border section with troops?

Never. They never could.
The USA itself is BECOMING A SHITHOLE because SHITHOLERS CREATE SHITHOLES and the USA has been under SHITHOLER INVASION since 1965.
Shitholes are shitholes because of SHITHOLERS. Shitholers are shitholers because of GENETICS.
SHITHOLER GENETICS CANNOT BE FIXED OTHER THAN VIA PREVENTING THE SHITHOLER FROM PASSING ON THEIR GENES.
All that gentrification actually means in practice is "force out the low IQ retard masses of browns and blacks and replace them with higher quality tenants." Of course, this simply forces the violent idiot hordes into someone else's backyard. Thus the cycle continues and the kikes make money both ways.
The only form of "gentrification" that is worthwhile is forcing the non-Whites out of White homelands and back to their own sovereign foreign countries. Then seal the border with lethal force and ban all immigration.
WHITE COUNTRIES FOR WHITE PEOPLE AND ONLY WHITE PEOPLE.
SEPARATION.
VOLKISM.

(and no, most spics are not White. A SMALL minority are. Very small)

Midol?
Fresh tampon?
Some folks NEED to smoke weed.

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fuck off cia shill

All you need are a few high-profile prosecutions of the worst employers/ landlords/ etc.
Illegal immigrants disappear over night.

Mexico should be completely incinerated and sterilized fifty feet below the surface of the earth and the ground should lay fallow for 100 years.

To be clear, I am not saying that every non-White person is a shitholer. Some non-Whites are quality people, and some non-White groups are impressive.
However, non-Whites should not be in White countries regardless of their quality. They should be in their own countries with their own people.
Volkism.

Sage for double post

Our failure take back Cuba (yes, we own it) is one of the great mysteries of geopolitics. We could do it in a couple of days. Instead, we fight decades-long pointless wars for Israel on the other side of the globe. My prediction: the Chinese will try to get ahold of Cuba to trade for Taiwan. Or they might turn it into an offshore medical clinic/resort and make $trillions.

Reported for wanting to keep nonwhites alive.

So who gives a shit about history? Either we kill all the jews or we all die. History had us not kill them. Are WE going to repeat those mistakes? Same goes for land annexations.
Exactly. Hadrian built his wall because he wanted to secure Roman borders BEFORE expanding the empire any further.
No, you’re right. The same deal given to the OTL Mexican Cession settlers would have been extended to the rest of annexed land. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT ALL THAT LAND WOULD HAVE BEEN POPULATED BY WHITES IN THE INTERIM, AND ALL FUTURE HISTORY THEREAFTER WOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED. The population of even the REAL Mexican Cession (the image above) was extremely low. White settlers had already taken Texas and comprised most of the Republic of the Rio Grande, and the further west you went the less populated it was. Baja California today still has only about a million settlers. Imagine if they were WHITE instead.
All of history would have been changed if Nicolas Trist had been killed before leaving for Mexico.
The Civil War would have happened a year or two sooner, which means it would have ended a year or two sooner, as well. It MIGHT not have even involved emancipation during the war (meaning the 13th amendment). Either way, THE NIGGERS WOULD ALL HAVE BEEN DEPORTED TO AFRICA, because Lincoln either wouldn’t have been assassinated, or slavery would have been slowly “phased out”, state by state. No niggers means no social justice fifth column in the US in the 20th century (among many other changes), no civil rights act, and no ABILITY for the Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965 to even exist. Not to mention that a larger US means EVEN LESS LIKELIHOOD OF JOINING ANY EUROPEAN WAR. A larger US means more whites in more states, which means among other things, WOODROW WILSON DOESN’T WIN IN 1912. Sure the kikes would have used another puppet or tried something else, but it would have taken a direct attack on US soil to get involvement. Oh, and no Federal Reserve. Because the makeup of Congress would have been entirely different thanks to more states with different demography. Speaking of which, with most niggers in the US being deported before 1900, that means MORE WHITE SOLIDARITY and more pushback against beaner invasions.

Oh, and Mexico. After the Mexican-American War, France tried to intervene and install a puppet government. With a SMALLER, WEAKER MEXICO, MAYBE THAT SUCCEEDS. Maybe their entire system is changed because of that, and maybe spics stay where they are. Maybe the country puts more emphasis on breeding peninsulares and criollos rather than mestizos, chollos, and mulattos.
The real borders being set after the Mexican-American War would have seen a larger, whiter, more isolationist United States, could have seen a truly WHITE Mexico, and would have totally changed the 20th century’s wars and jewish control.

Reminder that the Platt Amendment was treason and that we fucking earned Cuba.

Nicolas Trist
Committed treason and illegally negotiated for less land at the Treaty of Guadeloupe-Hidalgo.
Orville Platt
Pushed through a bill that saw the US reject the annexation of Cuba, won handily in the Spanish-American war.
Miguel Barbachano
Leader of the Maya revolt in the Yucatan, he lied to the US Congress about the situation in the country so that they would not vote to annex the Yucatan to the United States and send troops there to protect the white settlers from the Indio hordes. The real Yucatanese representative, Justo Sierra O’Reilly, was unable to get documented proof from his home in time to stop the vote and set the record straight.

THESE THREE MEN ARE THE REASON THAT THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS:

Never doubt the power of a single individual.

BTW, since we're annexing things (Baja, Caribbean, Canada), we should get a new flag. Here's one I designed which is suitable for any number of states. Proportion is 3:5, the standard used by flag manufactures. The base of the red triangle is three units, stripe is at a 36 degree angle paralleling the star and evoking the letter "A". The points of the maxed-out star represent Canada, the NE, NW, SE and SW. I would call this new country New America.

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It's the namesake of the country, all those Central American countries were once whole. It's like if New York state ceded from the U.S.

Whatever, but I'm not sure if your plan is global conquest or just reclaiming original land.

They never learnt their lesson, this why we need to put a border wall over California

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At this point that'd be ideal. Temporary, of course. It would immediately benefit the country in so many ways. It would drastically shift the demographics immediately back in favor of whites. There's some 28 million non-whites in Cali, probably another 15 million illegals, and it's the established home base of subversion in many aspects of society and government. It's minority white, and as such they can enter anything in the social or political realm through it with support from the non-white population.

wasn't that hillary's plan?

lol, the spic is scared
Three guesses.

Reported.

I just don't get the view of Zig Forums as global outreach when white countries should be secured for white people should be the goal.

No thanks

General Winifred Scott was bribed by merchants from New York to annex all of Mexico. Scott made clear that he did not approve of this, as it would naturalise millions of beaners, which he did not want mixing with and taking a part in the course of the country's future. So he rejected the bribe—which would be worth millions in today's dollars. and reestablished the border at the Rio Grande, where it was before the fuckers started the war by trying to reclaim Texas.

There is a reason why they don't teach the Mexican-American War in schools.

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You need to go deeper.

At cis.org/North/How-About-Wall-Mexico-We-Pay guy pointed out there is an abandoned railroad along this line so it would be incredibly easy to build a wall there. He was proposing that U.S. help fund Mexico building a wall there to keep out non-Mexican illegals.

While that WOULD be good for the US (non-Mexicans are the hardest to deport) the ideal would be if we got Mexican to build a wall along this line (yes, even help them pay for it) and then conquer the top half and drive them south.

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why not just say fuck it and use go to Panama. there's already a big, heavily watch canal right there bordered by huge cliffs and whatnot

of course, the further South you go, the more beaners you have to exterminate, which i imagine could get mighty expensive

that's why you deport and if they don't want to leave they can choose to be gassed instead.

yeah, but we'd have all that shithole.

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That's my larpy ethnostate dream.

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Kevlar piping

I had stumbled upon this plan years ago.