Hitler's Second Book - Audio

The issue is that MEGA really likes to delete content, especially when (((they))) want it

give him a listen

I understand. If it becomes an issue I'll upload somewhere else. My internet is powered by a stationary bicycle, though. In my village we have to take turns riding it to stay online, and even when I'm pedaling it's not that fast, I prefer to let other people mass distribute.

Will do.

Not convinced it was actually him.

Why's that? Have you read it?

>archive.org/details/@audiobooksanon
Thanks, user, absolute lad.

I uploaded the HD TGSNT at least two years ago, and the link still works and is posted pretty often.

Good stuff, user. Glad there's someone else making audiobooks besides that disinformation user. I wouldn't be surprised if that other faggot was polvol2. They behaved eerily similar and disappeared at the same time when polvol2 got banned.

Isn't it funny that PV2 was removed and immediately thereafter the board was completely taken over by reddit spam that isn't deleted anymore. I think that's funny.

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Isn't it funny how your unsubstantiated claims don't really matter to reality? I think that's funny. You're not on reddit, kiddo. We don't support civic nationalists here.

CM said he had the same IP hash as a BLUMPFF spammer.
Funny how you can tell these things from a 4 word post.

actually I think it was by law enforcement, there is a huge investigation going on now, we're all going to be hung by our necks until we are dead.

No, he didn't say that. You'll want to read that shit again.
Not really, since I'm white and have the ability to comprehend context clues. The board was taken over by redditors and has been flooded by them since PV2 was removed. You, personally, support this, apparently. CM also supports reddit spam here and does not allow right-wing speech to be protected. The rules of the board do not allow their content to be deleted or banned, despite being objectively wrong. Why are you incapable of comprehending this?

Funny how your retarded nonsequitur taught you something new, isn't it? PV2 was one of the last Zig Forumsacks here. It's just reddit without usernames now.

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Regardless of what you think about Christianity, I don't think a book sold by the Bund can really be classified as "disinformation".

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It was the 1930s. 90%+ of the country was Christian. They wanted to try to appeal to them, and link their religion to Nationalism.

That's nice dear.

Reported for spam.

Reported for abusing the report feature.

very nice

Is this the user who did Hitlers War and Goebbels Mastermind? If so, I applaud you for your work as Ive enjoyed them both. Work on your pronunciation though, there's still room for improvement there.

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What the hell are you talking about?

Thank you. Never noticed any other anons doing this. It would be nice if someone else joined in, but I understand not everyone wants to throw their voice out to the wolves.

Yes, that's me, and I am redoing Hitler's War at least (my Goebbels effort is good enough for now). I have the first 19 parts rerecorded, and I believe I'm quite a bit better than I was. Always room for improvement, though, I'm only producing this stuff as well as I can without it becoming a great burden. I don't bother with editing because that's very time consuming, but I have started pausing the recording for water breaks instead of interrupting the narration.

Glad you enjoyed them. There's more to come.

Zig Forums got taken over by reddit spammers because of the mods dumbass, they would ban anyone who criticized trump, and now you're shilling for more moderation which will turn this place into reddit

disinfo/gaslighting

post a pdf

Here's two versions. My recording is made from both.

Err, I was hoping for an asmr table talk.

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Keep it up. I'm surprised the David Irving books hadn't already received a proper audiobook adaptation.

It was called, 'The New World Order'. Yeah, really. Anyway, always a bump for Hitler.

the mods did not do there job so PV2 got cut, tbh more should be cut. they allow civnats and redditors to post whatever and don't ban spammers ever, especially when they are leftypol

Nope, Jonestein made that up.

That's great, I'll upload them soon. I skipped around a couple of tracks and I think your reading voice has improved; its more neutral when reading in first person and smoother overall.

Cheers user

Good to hear, thank you.

Fake "Second Book" was not written by Hitler
A book, its existence nobody did know of, before the 1950's.

German Wikipedia:

The book was alleged discovered in 1945 by an US officer.

Its “authenticy” is based on the word of Telford Taylor, former Brigadier General of the US Army and chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg show trials. As single witness they call Josef Berg, former employee of NSDAP owned Eher publisher.

The book was “rediscovered” in 1958 in US archives.
It was published in 1961 in Germany by the Institut für Zeitgeschichte, Munich, an orthodox holocaustian, state owned historical foundation.
Mind you, Hitler’s without doubt, only authentic book Mein Kampf, was then prohibited from publication and banned for the public, still is.

So, we should believe a state that fights Hitlers original thought to be published, to publish a book Hitler alleged wrote, but nobody did know about before the 1950’s?

If by "Bund" you mean the federal government of occupied western Germany, it is sure it is not Hitler's authorship.

You really are quite pathetic referring to yourself in the third person like that. Face it, you were axed because you're a belligerent, thread spamming faggot.

are you actually retarded and not notice that we would notice
or do you think you're so ((high verbel iq))) that

Have you read the book? Can you tell me what advantage would be achieved by its forgery? How does it help the (((enemy))) narrative for this book to exist? Also worth noting is that David Irving considers this absolutely the word of Adolf Hitler. I don't know his reasoning, but why is he wrong?

Introducing
Gerhard Weinberg, author of the second book that Hitler never wrote
Hitler's editor: Weinberg had discovered the dictator's second book, a manifesto about race and foreign policy that had been unpublished and was largely unknown. With help from Munich's Institute of Contemporary History, he made sure it didn't stay that way.

One day, in the summer of 1958, Weinberg was in his office, looking through a batch of files. He opened a thick folder that was labelled as a partial draft of “Mein Kampf.” “It was mislabelled, as I discovered in the opening lines,” Weinberg said. He recognized the twisted logic of the writer but not the writing itself.

“I was very excited,” Weinberg said. He showed a colleague, who felt the text was authentic. Around the same time, Weinberg received a message from Munich's Institute of Contemporary History, asking if he'd ever heard of a sequel to “Mein Kampf.” “I wrote them back and told them, yeah, I just found it!”

The Institute of Contemporary History published the “Zweites Buch” (“Second Book”) with Weinberg's commentary in 1961.

Here, the story of the “Second Book” closely parallels that of “Mein Kampf.” Nazi copyrights had been seized by the United States, in 1945, but they quickly reverted back to the government of Bavaria.

In an echo of postwar “denazification,” “Mein Kampf” was kept strictly out of print.
Florian Sepp, a historian at the Bavarian State Library, summed up the official stance, for the Washington Post: “This book is too dangerous for the general public.”

archive.fo/mru4B
newyorker.com/books/page-turner/a-historian-who-fled-the-nazis-and-still-wants-us-to-read-hitler

Cultured Thug has some relevant words.

>Can you tell me what advantage would be achieved by its forgery How does it help the (((enemy))) narrative for this book to exist?
So why would a jew publish a hitherto unknown “book of Hitler” if it wouldn’t serve their purpose?

Just because you think it reinforce your image of “Hollywood-Hitler”, that doesn’t makes it desinformation.

As if flip-floping Irving is the final arbiter of Hitlers thought

Because all that shit about Hitler’s “Lebensraum” his alleged expansionist, imperialistic shit does enforce the allies narrative of acting in self-defence?
Published, right in time for the Auschwitz trials in Germany. Second stage of reeducation, culminating into seeding of the leftist 68er movement by the “Frankfurt School” in the US “Free University” of Berlin. “No you filthy, aggressive Jermans did not act in self defense”, bow you head even if we had to let you live because we needed you as canon fodder against the Russians.

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Why are you rephrasing my question and presenting it back to me?

What?

Never said any such thing, though he is probably closest to the title, at least concerning the war years. Also, what has he "flip-flopped" on as opposed to simply changing his mind as new information is found? Is "flip-flopping" what people do when you don't like their conclusions? Without a doubt, none of his "flip-flopping" has made his life any less scrutinized and obstructed by his (((enemies))), and his conclusions that people here don't like don't aid the jewish narrative in the slightest. Seems like an honest man to me.

You're a baby if you don't think human ambition and desire is infinite. The only reason one group of people has not 100% conquered the globe is because other groups also desire to be on top.

Aside from that, Irving books (as well as "HSB") also show that Hitler was positive in outlook towards many peoples, as well as well as concerned about America's imperialistic future, which he was completely right about. You have to meet force with equal or greater force if you expect to win. Germany needed to expand if it was to compete with the American union.

I don't know if it's authentic or not (and David "Maybe 6 million died, maybe they didn't" Irving isn't the arbiter of its authenticity) but this sounds like an awful cohencidence.

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I meant to say "What?" to this.

You don't know the context of that. It's presented as if "around the same time" means Weinberg bumped his foot into the book just as they called. "Around the same time" could mean months. There could have been word of mouth traveling that spurred Munich's institute to contact Weinberg.

Please mark your sarcasm. Here are autists playing. Thank you for your consideration.

Oh please. Mr. (((Weinberg))) makes a sensational “discovery” nobody heard of before.
Of course do the lick-spittle of the institute ask for it, mentioning them is just to create the narrative that there was arcane knowledge about it before.

Thirteen years after the war is time enough to write half a dozen books for Hitler just by one author. There even would have been enough old new stock of paper and tape to create forensic convincing forgeries.

It is really no problem for a historian working at an archive of looted German documents to create and insert new content.
Ever heard of chain of custody?

If the documents would have stayed in German custody, it would have been very difficult to insert forgeries, because there are sequential numbered, bound in a way to make it difficult to add pages, there are indexes and copies and references, and many, many witnesses.

So you have crates with masses of papers out of order, missing parts. If something at odds? Yeah maybe it got lost in the war chaos? But here we found a copy of it. OK it is lacking the head and the style is not exactly like a German bureaucrat would put on paper, but it is irrefutable proof. What are you, some holocaust denier?

Aren’t you lucky that this nice jewish gentleman found some authentic thought of your beloved Fuhrer and published it with the help of the government of occupied Germany that on other occasions would try to erase any hint of original NS thought?

Put it on mp3 you fukin faggot, that site is a shit.

You haven't even read the book. There's nothing in it worth it to (((them))) to forge, and a whole hell of a lot that's really valuable for a person looking to clarify their own National Socialist principles, call out the jews, understand the value of one's folk, and how to rationally pick one's allies. Weinberg, if he forged it, could have forged something truly damning but didn't. He did make some weak jewish arguments about the evils contained in the unfinished manuscript, but they're thin and concern a tiny portion of the books contents.

Fake or not (Obviously I lean heavily towards "not") it's a good read. But go ahead make your decision about it upon hearsay, and wikipedia articles.

I still have your older work of 'Hitler's War' and 'The Descruction of Dresden'. Looking forward for your rerecording!

What are his points? Frankly he seemed a bit condescending "on a high horse" and not interesting to listen to for half an hour.

There was some bullshit book that was claimed to be Hitler's but was debunked years ago.
What's this shit? How do we know it's not Jewed? Hell, the Jews have even fucked up some editions of Mein Kampf!

David Irving says this book was actually written by Hitler as opposed to Mein Kampf that was mostly ghost written by members of his party.

Irving says stuff that may be true, but is short on cites.

Just use torrents or IPFS, you don't want a purge to burn everything like many libraries in /pdfs/

You answered to none of my arguments.

It is useless to argue about the content of a forgery.

>There's nothing in it worth it to (((them))) to forge, and a whole hell of a lot that's really valuable for a person looking to clarify their own National Socialist principles, call out the jews, understand the value of one's folk, and how to rationally pick one's allies.
It is called black propaganda.

If one want someone to swallow a poison, one uses candy to cover it up.

Learn about Sefton Delmer. He operated a whole radio station that pretended to be German. Part of black propaganda is to deliberate mix the truth with lies. He was proud about it and published a lot of it. His son did put it on the internet, but it is now nearly completely purged. Guess why?

The point of black propaganda is for you to unnoticed swallowing lies by padding it with half-truths and truths.

But “his second book” is quite confusingly not, it is even promoted by Hitlers enemies. How could that be?

What in the book, specifically, do you think was lies?

not ghostwritten, but partly dictated by Hitler, partly written by him as far as I'm aware.

It is a complete fabrication.

If you want to argue, that some parts have roots in reality, then why don’t argue with fictional literature in general?

What in the books goes against what hitler said in MK or his speeches? If it was a fabrication, why would they have parts in there that show his admiration of the americans and brits? Why wouldn't they have bits about gas chambers in there?

*what in the book

OK, lets start with what even the cucks of Wikipedia noticed:

Lebensraum, a foggotry post-war communist meme. Where it is tried to give a perfect translatable German word, living room, some sinister connotation and declare the total fictional intention of Germany, Hitler “to conquer the world”.
In the book Hitler did write, Mein Kampf, the term “Lebensraum” is mentioned exactly four times. Once in a discussion of Germany’s pre-first-world-war options and situation in the world (p.148).
A second time, in a discussion what is the purpose and task of the state (p.164)
A third time, about nomads, what makes them different from farming societies and the jew not being a nomad but a parasite. (p.333, 334)
A fourth time, stating that Germany needs to assert itself in Europe secure its border there, not in colonial adventures. (p.741)

In Weinberg’s Second Book, the term Lebensraum is used inflationary 22 times, reinforcing the allies narrative that Hitler was out “to conquer the world”.

Yeah, strange maybe it has not the same author?
But even that is not correct, because Hitler mentions the USA in comparison to South-American states that have become degenerate by race-mixing with natives and slaves. He mentions America with Europe as source for Japanese dynamism. Hitler argues that civ-nat cuckery is worse in Weimar than in the USA.

Weinberg argues in his Second Book, that the USA is super strong competitor, so inevitable that has to lead to conflict with Germany.
How that goes along with Hitler’s idea in Mein Kampf that Germany should concentrate on its position in Europe, that is probably the secret of jews like Weinberg.

Weinberg argues further in his Second Book, that the Germans as a people are not of the same average quality as the English (serious?) and depend on particularly gifted individuals and think Germany in need of strong eugenics (compared to the English? That sounds totally authentic Hitler, not).

I could continue with the bullshit this jew tries to sell us as caviar, but juck.

This is from the "Introduction: The Story of the Manuscript" part (from page 8 onward)

"Removal of the classification was promptly authorized and in August 1958, the document was submitted informally to the
Historical Division, Department of State. By 1959 it had been microfilmed and released into the public domain.
German jewish historian Gerhard Weinberg then quite falsely claimed that he had discovered the manuscript
(“Revealed: the amazing story behind Hitler’s second book”, The Telegraph, London, Sept. 25, 2003).
In reality, Weinberg had only been told about the manuscript’s existence by Bauer, who should really be credited with finding the book.
After obtaining a copy of the manuscript from Bauer, Weinberg then produced a highly-edited (actually a censored)
version of the book in German, titled Hitlers Zweites Buck, ein Dokument aus dem Jahr 1928 (“Hitler’s Second Book, a
Document from the Year 1928”), published by the Institut für Zeitgeschichte (“Institute of Contemporary History”) in Munich.
The Institut für Zeitgeschichte was, and still is, a historical research center set up by the post-war West German
government in 1947, at the insistence of the Allied occupying powers, to present anti-Hitler propaganda in Germany.

'''Subsequent to the edited version appearing in German, an unknown “pirate” edition of Weinberg’s version appeared in
English.''' This first translation was pitifully poor, and in some sections, completely incomprehensible. This was probably
aggravated by the fact that the original manuscript was also unedited. '''Finally, another English edition appeared, of better
quality, but that remained only a translation of the “edited” Weinberg version.''' The work you now hold in your hands is the very first
complete and accurate translation done in which the basic ideas are put down in readable and everyday English. All of the ideas,
thoughts and concepts have been faithfully captured, analyzed and set down in the manner in which they would ultimately have appeared, had it ever been officially printed.
Apart from the foreword, the original manuscript contains no chapter titles—possibly they were to be added later. This
edition has kept to that restriction, but essential summaries of chapter contents have been added to the table of contents to help guide the reader."
Arthur Kemp
June 2014

thanks a lot for your service user

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I could find no mention of USA in comparison to South-American states, no less about race-mixing between them. Or even about Weimar.

Well, he did want to bolster the german communities in eastern Europe and the Baltics. I also wouldn't doubt if he wanted to reinstate the Germanic upper classes in eastern Europe that were decimated by the communists.
It kind of was. If the US didn't enter the war and/or the USSR lost, I can easily see a cold war type scenario occurring between the US and the Germanic reich.
Yes, they were focused on its position in Europe, but the Second Book is focused on foreign policy. The industrial power of the united states would be a major competitor.
He may have thought this on account of Germany not being able to have a empire like the brits.
They were, as were most white countries.
TLDR- I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Couldn't find the part about Weimar, but here is the comparison between N. America and S. America.

Quite irrelevant, being a total fabrication

Archive.org link
archive.org/details/HitlersSecondBook
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p.313 About race

p.490 Citizen, Nationals, Foreigner

I named exactly what Hitler really wrote, not some bullshit that was writen after the war.

Totally irrelevant because Hitler didn’t write about it.

This is not about fiction what someone might have imagined, or what the real author thought would flatter the Anglo.

This was in Hitlers book about foreign policy.

I’m not going to dis the Brits here, but Hitler was very much aware of the racial make up of Britain and the stratification of their society.

This is just stupid jewish black propaganda! Read what Hitler wrote about the contribution the Germans made to the success of America.
Of course, the jews can not help them self, they must put underhand denigration everywhere, even if it is a contradiction to the personae they play.

Does anybody have an audiobook of Mein Kampf in the STALAG Edition if it exists?

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WHY THE 2ND BOOK IS NOT FAKE
Chapter 9.
Towards the end of it he attacks Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi and his Pan European Movement, which went on after the war to become the EU.
If the book was written by jews or cianigs, they would have left that part out.
No one even started talking about Kalergi until a few years ago.
They aren't going to write a disinfo book pointing back to themselves. It would just be full of 'insane ravings of a genocidal madman', nothing included that would counter the official historical narrative, etc.

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nationalvanguard.org/2018/07/a-national-socialist-view-of-european-unity/

There's no comparison between the unfinished second book on foreign policy, and the complete story of Hitler's awakening up to a point in Mein Kampf. One is an inspiring story of a man's development from normie to NatSoc, and the other reads like a bunch of Mein Kampf political rants taken out of context. Not to mention Mein Kampf was already a famous work with proven effectiveness as propaganda. Pretty easy to see why one book would be considered dangerous and not the other.

Your points are thin, and inconclusive just like I said. You're putting a suspicious amount of effort into trying to discredit a book you've not read.
There you go letting (((wikipedia))) do your thinking for you. This is laughable. Read the book or shut up.

Thank you

Doesn't exist as far as I can tell, and that's not a job I will be undertaking. The Ford Translation is fine, and the audiobook is beautifully read.

WOW
This man right here is the kind of selfless devotion that empowers a whole nation. Think what happens when you get 1/10th of all men doing something like this just once a year for people that aren't their immediately family!
You are magnificent user!

That is wrong, Kalergi and the Pan-European movement were founded before the war, had important and influential supporter then.

Hitler did fight Kalergi and Otto von Habsburg. The later was already head of the Pan-European movement. Habsburg probably hoped to regain his lost position as emperor, for now as a president of Europe. Maybe hoped for a restoration, new formation of a European monarchy.

It is full of antisemitism.
Black propaganda is mostly authentic, just with little but significant alteration.

You really can’t argue for black propaganda fakes, with the content, that is lifted 99 percent of real sources, it is just not Hitlers original thoughts.

Would you eat candy that is 99 percent delicious sugar, but 1 percent arsenic?

This is an incoherent argumentation. If both books are authored by Hitler, both should be “too dangerous for the general public”.

In practices, one is not, the poisoned one.

You are pushing a book that was “found” and promoted by a jew. A book that was published by the regime that suppresses Hitler’s without a doubt authentic book.

Thank you for this user

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweites_Buch

The book was translated by a jew,"victim of the holocaust" watch out your sources.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Weinberg

No more than Mein Kampf, which really wasn't that much. Again, you haven't read the book, you don't know anything.

You're welcome

Nice fake quote. David Irving considers Weinberg a reliable historian. If you know what reliable means in this context you know that doesn't mean he necessarily agrees with Weinberg's personal conclusions, but rather the methods used to acquire information.

That is the point. One, the authentic one is banned, the other, the forgery is published.

He would never forge documents to “prove” his thesis.

On the front cover of the books were pasted on initials, in “Old English fracture font” the letters were F H. Fritz Hitler maybe?

If so, where does he say that and why does he consider that I wonder. Not like Irving is a final judge despite his great work.
Weinberg seems to be a fraud of a historian and has nothing to do with the original "The Second Book" or this edition
media.8ch.net/file_store/ad5faf3539e43ea7869ee71adbb8b7bc2b9d798fa3208e58ada0cb38916ea532.pdf

This was translated, introduced and annotated by Arthur Kemp. See

Itt:
Pathetic.

Embed related. It's in the last 20 minutes somewhere. He goes into why Table Talks are valid as well (which refer to a second Hitler manuscript).
Like I said, if he says a historian is reliable, it's because he's probably satisfied his need to know how information was acquired and verified the rationale for logical conclusions drawn from the information. Not a concrete answer, but that's his career modus operandi. You can also just email him, he usually answers.

Yeah, that's the version I recorded.

Wut

At 56min 05sec. I wonder why he says Weinberg is reliable, maybe he doesn't know that Weinberg's edition was not completely accurate. Anyway, not a big issue, people will find the "Arthur Kemp edition" and moreso now that your audiobook work exists.
I wonder if Irving has ever gotten to reading Mein Kampf after that talk. Although he has been focused strictly on the 1940s onward period so that explains why he hasn't I suppose. But he never undermines Mein Kampf of course.

I don't know, it's strange that he claims not to have read it. He does refer to the contents of it in "Hitler's War", the newest edition of which is from 2001, well before this talk. I guess he only went as far as to verify the contents of chapter 14 which espouse Hitler's designs on Russia, and which existed publicly while trying to strike a deal with the Soviet Union.