As expected, neither the centre-left nor the centre-right bloc obtained a majority in Sunday’s vote. The far-right Sweden Democrats solidified their position as the country's third-biggest party with a vote share of 17.6 percent at the latest count.
That is a lower score than several polls had predicted for the right-wing populist party, but still sees a significant growth in its voter share and number of seats from the last election in 2014.
Social Democratic Prime Minister Stefan Löfven's red-green left bloc currently has a razor-thin one-seat lead over the centre-right opposition Alliance, with nearly 200,000 ballots from Swedes who voted abroad still to be counted on Wednesday. Both the Social Democrats and the Moderates, the two largest traditional parties on the left and right respectively, saw their share in the vote shrink from the numbers they posted in 2014.
Political scientist Nicholas Aylott, an associate professor at Södertörn University, shared his views how the provisional result changes expectations.
Does this result change any of the parties’ pre-election positions?
“The results for the Sweden Democrats don’t really change that much as far as the other parties are concerned. Whether they were the third biggest party or the biggest party is less important than the fact that they are now sufficiently strong to deprive either of the traditional blocs of a majority.
“That really puts the onus on those blocs to try to find a stable governing solution that might just involve the Sweden Democrats in some way, but more likely, probably won’t. So in a sense, the Sweden Democrats’ result is probably less important than the outcome of the competition between the two traditional blocs.”
Why are the Sweden Democrats, the third-largest party, still unlikely to be involved in government?
“It’s pretty much inconceivable that the left bloc would be prepared to accept that (Sweden Democrat) support or govern with that support. The really sharp dilemmas are faced by the four parties of the centre-right, the Alliance parties. In principle, they could take over power tomorrow – or as soon as parliament reopens – if the four of them were prepared to reach some sort of, even vague and implicit, accommodation with the Sweden Democrats. The trouble is, the two centre-most of them [the Centre and Liberal parties, ed.] have said that they will not under any circumstances consider that.
“So that puts those two parties on the horns of a really, really acute dilemma. Do they go back on what they said about refusing any support from the Sweden Democrats, particularly if the Alliance isn’t bigger than the left bloc, or do they go back on what they said about trying to remove a Social Democratic prime minister?”
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What about a right-wing government excluding the two smaller centrist parties?
“The fact that the Sweden Democrats didn’t do as well as some of them had dared to hope means that that trio [the Moderates, Christian Democrats and Sweden Democrats, ed.], which I think probably would be prepared to form some sort of government together, they can’t because they haven’t got nearly enough votes.”
How significant is the tiny difference in vote share between the two blocs?
“This is where it gets very interesting. For a start, we should say that the result is not yet in. The votes of Swedes abroad have not yet been counted, there could be 200,000 votes and we won’t get the final vote until Wednesday, so it really is going to be a nailbiter.
“But if, if – if we assume that the result is as it looks so far, and the left bloc has just one more (seat) than the right bloc, that does make a difference, because the Centre Party, in particular, has said time and again during the campaign and said again last night that if the Alliance was to form a government in those circumstances, when the left bloc is bigger, then they would have to get the consent of the left bloc. So it would have to be some sort of government that had the participation or support of the Social Democrats and maybe the Greens too.
“That frankly, is an extremely implausible scenario – why would the left bloc consent to an Alliance government when the left bloc is actually a touch bigger than the alliance? Much more plausible, I think, is that the Social Democrats either stay where they are or the government will resign and allow the negotiations to begin, but I think it’s more likely in those circumstances that the Liberal or the Centre would find themselves, in the end, compelled to tolerate a Social Democratic prime minister.”
If the Sweden Democrats were included in the conservative bloc, there would be a large conservative majority in this election. What is preventing the traditional conservative parties in Sweden from working with them to form a government?
“The biggest factor is that the Sweden Democrats are a very different party with a very different background to, let’s say, the Progress Party in Norway, and even to the Danish People’s Party. They’re not a very old party, they were only formed at the end of the eighties, and they have roots in overtly racist, Neo-Nazi organisations. That history means something, no matter how much the party professes to have changed and maybe really has changed, that background means something and it makes it more difficult for mainstream parties to consider treating them as a normal party.
“But of course you have to think about the nature of political debate in Sweden, and the parameters of what can be said at any time. What is considered legitimate and what is considered illegitimate to say and do are relatively narrow in Sweden, particularly on some questions. And so those two factors have really served to underpin the isolation of the Sweden Democrats.
“That, I think is going to continue in the near future, but in four years, maybe we will have got closer to a Norwegian or a Danish situation.”
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SD's numbers went up as the US economy last year, at 23 percent crashes val.se and valmyndigheten.se (I had suspicions that this would happen if the Swedish Democrats were to explode in the election results) the media continues to report results, even though it did not there are some data to retrieve in the election … Media reports now, five minutes after val.se crashes with 23% on SD, SD is now turning down, I'm watching Expressen get its site data because val.se is down and earlier been from there as they have taken their website data. I review Expressen as much as I can, but also saves website data from several of the major TVs and web magazines selected. What I can see is that Expressen retrieves its live results from its own underside, I'm quite poor at analyzing website data, (SVT, SVD, Expressen and SVT website pages during the current SD decline, and under the crash of the election authority, saved in the left-hand zip File. Validation's living data after the crash is also included in the ZIP-file link, maybe someone skilled here may also dig a little in this?)
At all, I can not see any link to the Authority. In about this live reporting after the crash, but as I said, I'm not an expert on this. If so, I wonder where did they get their numbers with the update rate that was going on !? Is it just a coincidence that the Swedish Democrats shot in the sky just before the crusade crashed, and that they only begin to dive minutes after the crash? And in the same vein, both the Liberals and the Environmental Party, which are the media's yellow-leaved crisis, are rescued from outside the Riksdag. What happened yesterday really? The Swedish Democrats would receive 31.3% according to the error index, the Environmental Party & Liberals would be, for example, parliamentary parties. It is not logical that the Swedish Democrats get less in reality than in many opinion polls, it has never happened before and the taboo it means to acknowledge SD sympathy means that they will always be heavily underestimated in opinion, so this must be an extensive electoral fraud It is not enough that there would be a few election districts with corrupt voters - this must be a much greater attack on democracy. And how can Löfven get 28% when opinion shows 20-25%? S has always been either spiked or easily overestimated in surveys. There is no doubt that electoral fraud has occurred, rather on the contrary when you read # valfusk2018 The question is if someone can prove something happened when the crusader's side crashed? Help Democrat to investigate this - Is there concrete evidence of a major electoral fraud like the Swedish media and the electoral authority carried out together? There is a newspaper that will address this: News Today
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Also fuckery with all the alternative sites. Largest forum down, largest alternative site under Ddos-attack during the counting.
Is… anybody… going to protest the obvious voter fraud?
It's Sweden, what do you expect?
You’re joking
Remember when the extreme right won big at the german elections? Nothing changed, because they were isolated and pushed out.
hate.
New documentary, of course a with Sweden-demonizing spin and lies but also interesting factual information
>No other party has made racial biology a science and divided the population by race and conducted medical experiments on helpless patients. No other Swedish party has systematically and forcefully sterilized its own population. No other Swedish party has, to such an extent, helped Nazi Germany and refused jews a sanctuary. No other Swedish party has, to such a degree, deprived women the possibility to bring children to the world.
You’re joking.
Colorado has Angel posers
Lol, no. People are gonna whine on facebook. What i'm hoping for is a new election since there is no majority in parliament.
Really activates my almonds…
Preliminary statement from the international observers now released
Mysteriously unmentioned are the remarks of the Danish guy who stated on the record that it was the most undemocratic shit he had ever seen, having been in Russia and other eastern former Soviet states, and his statement that he would bring it to the attention of the European council at the next meeting.
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Now the mail votes finally has appeared at the vote counting station 24 hour late ..
thats like 1,7+ something
It will force them to decllare color, voting on parties that don't get into the goverment at all will not even do that.
Man this map confuses me, so the city dwelling Swedes aren't the cucks its the rural middle of nowhere ones?
13% isn't winning big. Its getting a seat at the table to make a mockery of the shitlibs in office.
They haven't been exposed to enough dieversity yet.
Other way around. The flushed the small villages of hundred people with 200 immigrants, so it's basically a foreign village with some old swedish people in it aswell.
t.swede?
The people who have to actually live with the multiculture are the ones who despise it the most. The rural areas up north are also typically a mix of Finns, reindeerniggers, and the odd jew descended from a couple of them who were banished up there during the 1700's because nobody fucking wanted to deal with them.
As for the blue areas, that's where the big city jews live, who own the publishers and media so they're going to always vote for the party which gives them the most tax breaks. Sweden is a very segregated country for the most part, and it's easy to advocate multiculture when you don't actually experience it beyond the "exotic" food.
Could be like Norway also where the left parties have tradtionally been the supporters of rural areas so they have a lot of votes locked in. If you don't have any kebabs around your farm, why vote for those right people who never did anything for you?
and they are allowed to vote no less
i mean at that point the takeover is complete
maybe sweden will die without a whimper
Unfortunately.
Maybe those 20% will move to a neighboring country (Finland or Eastern europe) to strengthen their right movements. Eventually these consolidating migrations will only strengthen the countries they end up in. Some will be lost but some will be made stronger.
That said I wouldn't give up on Sweden yet, that NRM movement has piqued my interest.
The Latest: GERMANY calls Swedish vote a 'TURNING POINT'
"A senior German official is describing the Sweden’s election, in which the governing party lost ground and a far-right party made gains, as a “turning point” for Sweden and Europe.
"Michael Roth (>parenthetically Roth?), a deputy foreign minister, was quoted as telling Monday’s edition of German daily Die Welt it’s good that pro-European parties which support an open and liberal society still have a clear majority. But he noted that Sweden has seen an emotional discussion about migration and said that “the gap between facts and perceived reality is getting ever bigger.”
"Roth said “this election result is unfortunately a turning point for Sweden and Europe. Nationalist populism is still advancing….”
Damn that's a good webm.
Do you know where the clip at 1:10 with the guys in suits is from?
ONLY because you fuckers are still powerful, organized and resourceful enough to continously rig the votes….but this is ending.
it actually kind of is even though the swing isn't as severe as it was supposed to be. at the end of the day the commies are at their lowest point in a hundred years while SD were by far the ones that gained the most votes since last election
how many of the mail votes were late?
Indeed it is. The media, politicians, educational institutions and various ngo's are all working overtime to keep projecting the rosy image of happy multiculturalism and drown out any dissenting voice in a sea of "muh racism" and "muh nazis".
Its also about changing the mindset of a generation instead of repeating the zombie millennials who bought everything their commie overlords sold them.
Sweden's general election results in stalemate as far-right support surges
""Sweden's center-right and center-left blocs have fallen short of a majority. The far-right Sweden Democrats have seen a boost in support''"
"The far-right, anti-immigration Sweden Democrats who rose from the white supremacist and neo-Nazi fringe, saw their share of the vote rise from 12.9 percent in 2014 to 17.6 percent in Sunday's poll… it represents the largest gain by any party in the Riksdag.
If confirmed, the result translates to 63 parliamentary seats for the Sweden Democrats, up from 49 seats in 2014. Party chief Jimmie Akesson told members: "We will gain huge influence over what happens in Sweden during the coming weeks, months and years."
S has always been the working class party until relatively recently when it became the mass immigration party. M is the upper class party. SD is still very new and people are slow to change.
what you are looking at is basically sweden as it used to be but with SD finally starting to take over
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forming a government is gonna be a shitshow
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The socialist just changed the outcome. Sweden is beyond fucked.
what are they saying here user?
They are explaining the rules regarding voting boxes.
voting room in forssjø had neither
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god that is depressing well at least the fraud is being well documented I guess
The ballot box looked the same in my polling station now when I come to think of it.
There is litteraly hundreds of sweds crying about voter intimidation & vote fraud on various social medias.
Its being documented. Whats next i have no idea.
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This was not my point at all…
Immigrants being allowed to vote is electoral fraud on its own.
SD, M, L and KD can do it
Yeah, that's never going to happen.
What do you guys think of Styx's take on the election?
I feel like he's being overly optimistic and doesn't understand how all of the parties except for KD are willing to completely bend over backwards and fuck up not only their own political agendas but the country as a whole, simply to spite SD.
Tell him to keep it in his pants
its pretty much the only way it can happen, unless C and L join MP S and V.
Yeah, what you just said there, that's what's actually going to happen.
He's an outsider with no understanding of the Swedish establishment, his commentary is basically worthless.
So nothing new there.
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this is huge if true
Even a cursory knowledge of political history -whether recent or in times past - will tell you that reality often intervenes to thwart such simplistic plans.
None of us can see the future.
What Styx is right about is the same thing that the cuck politicians in Sweden (and the jews of the MSM) are pissing and moaning about - the populist politics of European nationalism continues to make strong gains.
We have to let the future tell us the rest of the story.
According to this woman the Sweden Democrats went from 40% of total votes in her district by preliminary count to 22% of total votes when they were to send the ballots in to the official election agency for final counting.
I had only skimmed through it previously, there is a correction:
Excuse me she says that 22% of the Sweden Democrats votes went "missing" when they were to be sent in to final counting at the election agency.
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The swedish gov stance will be "Elections are over faggots. Better luck next time"
she say ~50% of the SD votes vent missing after their local count. From around 40% to 22%
Technically she says "22% of SD's votes are missing", which probably does mean what you say it does, but it many also mean that 22% of SD's specific ballots went "missing".
Reminder of the Austrian elections, if people try to pull the "tee hee, elections aren't rigged in 1st world EU countries" meme, then remind them of what happened in Austria.
yea i saw that now
but i think she means 50%
That would be racist, goyim.
This always happens, the (((media))) hype the "threat" of evil far right racist nazis and people believe we might actually have a chance. Nope. Voting solves nothing.
Actually they mostly ignore SD
I didnt follow the regime controlled "debate" but from what i heard they avoided talking about migration problems.
"Its a non issue - lets focus on the 60billion budget surplus" - prime minister
So what's the plan B?
jesus christ the swedes cant let them get away with it this time
it was reported by some NMR-men in ludvika and kungalv that the ballots for them (and also for AfS) kept getting stolen and needing to be replaced, and most of the staff (or whatever it's called who monitor it officially) didn't give a shit or help at all.
Yeah, that's pretty much the standard.
The selection for this "duty" of election supervisors (I just made that term up) is not random, it isn't like jury duty, they're chosen by the local municipal government if I remember correctly, so they're always leftists.
This is really the best they can do for a put-down. "The people's will is wrong"
It's going to be nothing. We saw it a million times during the lead up to the US presidential election, anything of value will be dumped immediately… bullshit will be waved around and teased for maximum "impact":
Just like with Hitler in Germany, elections are a way of putting pressure on the machine… they aren't the solution but they are a way of showing the average Joe that our power is growing. They have some value but we need to be out there with knives and guns to send a message that we're getting our way by hook or by crook.
Can someone explain what "far-right" means to swedes? For all I know it's the equivalent of our democrat party.
Reducing the SD vote percentage from 40% to 17.6% is insane. How are they getting away with this???
Add in the intimidation and the other shenanigans… wtf? Is a recount possible? Shame that no anons were inside the voting counts.
There was basically no Swede-anons communicating with the rest of the nationalist community, despite most Swedes speaking perfect English. They're desire to "keep it all in house" hurt their chances, methinks. Now the only option is knives and guns to intimidate a recount… or at very least some high grade weaponized memes.
This is not the future that was supposed to be.
I'd say redo the whole vote using a procedures that less sensitive to fraud. And from what I read here you basically have to have observers present everywhere.
Paper ballot in true secrecy with fingerprint ink voting (to prevent multiple or fake votes).
I'd say no mail in votes, no voting on behalf of somebody else and absolutely no "guided voting" or "family voting" as they call it.
You would also need a single ballot with every party/candidate on it to prevent most of the retardation shown in this thread from happening.
With a single ballot you can start to do basic things like checking if the amounts of ballots in the box and remaining at the end of the day add up to the right amount.
If you want to get real fancy you could add a custom id per polling boot, with the ID's kept secret until voting day to prevent stuffing/replacing votes.
It means libertarians who got fed-up getting raped.
I like the ideals of libertarians but they just don't function in the real world
How about also requiring fucking citizenship in order to vote, and prohibiting literal retards from voting.
If they consider it discrimination to not allow someone with the mental acuity of a 10 year old to vote, one would logically think that they'd also fight for actual kids to vote based on anti age discrimination.
I've also been thinking that maybe prohibiting old people with alzheimer and dementia from voting would be a step in the right direction.
Only people who should be able to vote are men with at least three biological children.
Same for politicians, citizens should only be able to take public office if they are men with three biological children.
Make sure the people running the country and deciding on its fate have a stake in the future.
Anything that talks about immigration and it needing to be reduced in any shape or form that isn't an established party.
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i agree
65 should be the cut off age
after that age their property gets transferred to the patriarch of their family and they become legal dependants
none of this waiting for them to die BS
Old people are gonna be the Downfall of this country
Svens are basically fucked from a democratic point of view then
Literally the only other alternative is street protesting, outside the political system. We'll see if the Svens have the stomach to save themselves
Protesting in the streets AGAINST being invaded by hostile aliens is seen as the equivalent of marching in full natsoc Germany uniforms.
They already have that in sweden. If you are too mentally unfit you cannot vote.
It's hilarious how these cucks thing stonewalling elected officials is going to make them more popular with normies. The boogieman is fading every day.
Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.
make a copy while you can. this is a pretty comprehensive take on ALL the corruption in Swedistan.
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SOME NIGGER PUT THIS IN A TOTALLY UNRELATED THREAD SO IT WONT LET ME EMBED. I SUSPECT COLLUSION WITH THE NIGGERMODS.
Anyone that doesn't parrot the shitlib talking points. Then they're labeled a nazi who promotes hate speech. I'm sure that sounds familiar.
If you question any of their retardation the response is "but goy thats a right wing talking point!". Never acknowledging if that point was true or not.
Ex. The republicuck party is considered far right because they want a wall on the southern border.
Redice are cia niggers