Making Money and Planning for the Future

I am sure a lot of you are like me and are trying to make money, to save up so you can invest or start your own business.
Right now, I'm 23 and make about $25k a year, I work as an administrator at a small company and have no debt, live in an apartment and my bills amount to about $800 a month, that's including groceries and gas and things like that.

So beside my 40 hours a week, I have found some other places to make some side cash with:

Other ideas I had were:

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You're an honest lad, I'll give you that.

Find something that you can build or create that has a ready market to sell into. You don't want to spend all of your time and effort marketing, just find something where selling is pretty easy. Or just rob people whose wealth was created by theft.

Drawfag here, this is a pandora box you really don't want to open unless you are fine with being swamped in degeneracy.
Once you get enough notoriety, you will find 99% of commissions you get will either be furfag fetish shit by furries with way too much money or just endless anime porn

You need to develop some skills to realistically earn money. Remember that everyone is trying to find the easy way, ie making youtube videos or dropshipping.
There are some good digital marketing programs you can take online in which you can use your Photoshop skills. Maybe you can learn computer languages and work in IT since you know about computers.
Check out a guy named Aaron Clarey on youtube, he has a lot of knowledge on this sort of subject.

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Frankly, producing goods is much easier and more stable. You would be amazed at how much money you can make just doing things like building simple furniture designs and selling them on craigslist.

Im in the low brackett myself. My dad once told me you will never get any where working 5 8hour days, you gotta work 6 days a week sun up to sundown if you want to acquire. A side hustle is the only way

You'd be surprised what you can save by living meagerly. Cut all meals down to made at home, that's a huge chunk of money saved on it's own. Cut the ingredients to basic things like oats for breakfast, eggs now and then and veggies with a serving of meat for dinner and you'll save money and feel amazing for it health wise.

Or start a business, which is how most rich people end up rich.

This, even if you own part of a fransice store such as McDonald's and become a GM you'll make 50,000 and operation mangers make more. The problem is that nobody wants to give up their seniority and even if they did it will go to a nog because (((diversity quotas))).

This, adapt to living well while in poverty and you will never live above your means. The casual excesses of consumerism are a trap, all the outlets that you see are traps, the house wins when you're on their turf and default to retail.
Get into DIY, only buy raw resources, staple foods, thrift store clothes (church thrift stores) and second hand electronics. Acquire a full set of basic tools, get a job in an environment where you can salvage things and find abandoned resources. Keep everything clean and orderly for that added bonus of making a good impression to der normie and showing people the way.

If you're a demonstrably reliable and polite guy, it's not unheard of for churchgoing rural boomers to let you live in their shed/trailer rent-free in exchange for carpentry/landscaping. It's a good way to prove your salt to a locality as well, which counts for much more than a fat resume when you're just starting out.

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I'm not really sure why there isn't a mention of trades here, or community college level STEM degrees.
You're never going to get rich quick unless you're a reality TV celebrity or something, and those people end up having such low impulse control they are poor again shortly after the fame has dried up. Same thing with lottery winners.
If you go into a commercial service trade(steamfitting, plumbing, electrical work, pipefitting, pipelining, etc.) and work for an established company in a residential and commerically viable area, you can have success. Yes, that may mean suffering somw urban blight, but there are in fact places to go that are still okay. You will have to take shit for a while and actually focus on meeting the people you do the work for(business owners etc.) and work your way up the food chain at the company you're at, but once you get into a lead position as a contract manager or equivalent you can use your field experience and knowledge to help run the company. Depending on how things go, you can either end up an executive or go start your own company with the commercial contacts(if your place of employment decides to fuck you), and you can fuck them back by taking their business and making yourself money.
Don't be a brainlet, don't be a lazy piece of shit, think in terms of decades not minutes or days and actually make it clear to the people you're working for you actually want to advance.
Once that starts to come into play, you can give your kids a head start and in a generation or two all of a sudden your offspring is helping run fortune 500 companies from the upper levels.
P.S. If not for yourself do it for your unborn children

This is also a good suggestion and worth thinking about if austerity is your style, esepcially as a younger man.
sage cause I bumped already

I've been planning to become a programmer. Network stuff is really cool, and I'd love to help build decentralized things like the i2p projects or the blockchain internet protocol. But hearing about how pozzed the whole industry is and how you'll have to live in a city hellhole forever…is it still worth it?

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How hard would it be to get a job that had to fix machines for restaurants and fast food? Should I get a job being school janitor? I make $9/hr as a morning janitor and I have to try to repair different machines such as the ice and coffee before the professionals get there.

Do you like fish or aquatic creatures and plants?

I'm currently trying to write a book (based on Knights of the Zodiac) to make money for the Zig Forums community. If the investment turns all right, should we go for apartments or a compound?

make something people want and sell it

like my book, right?

yes
if it is worth reading
good luck user, im rooting for you
do your best!

Learn to fix atms
I see them breaking down all the time and guys fixing them constantly. Idk it's something. Also resell limited edition shoes that go for over 500 on ebay.

Interested…

If you can figure this one out please come back and make a thread. It's impossible to get screenpring compaines to make a good product unless you print in bulk. I worked at a screenprinting place and it's not easy to do without fucking up unless you have the same mold over and over

And the market is flooded with tshirt companies that suck. I have a million ideas and made two companies and nobody cared. I bought a tshirt for myself and it looked like shit even though I uploaded a huge file and followed the guidelines.

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Because that's the only copypasta responses in these threads. And we're all sick of it.

Both are long term huge commitments and you lose all your time working for the man. It's slavery for life.

Read a lot. Read every book you can on finances. You don't have to be an accountant, but read the basics.

Dave Ramsey
Richest Man in Babylon
Rich dad poor dad

Books like these will answer all your questions.


The best moneymaking schemes are always when you invest in your self. Investing in your skills, your house, your realty. Once you hit a point where you have extra cash, use it to make more cash. Don't spend it if there's extra, make it work for you.

I always get excited when Zig Forumsacks write a book. I'll buy it. Read the story grid, and it will be better than any 2,000 dollar editor. You will be an upper echelon writer.

Always go with the compound.

Unironically look into crypto. (((They))) don't want you to have financial freedom and I feel like Zig Forums isn't as active on this front as we ought to be.

I save $5 of every paycheck, and when it reaches $200, I buy some bitcoins or whatever looks fun. Regulation = slavery.

Keep yourself free.

Your cost of living is about the same as mine at the moment. I'm seeking employment in consulting for the money and networking opportunities, and also starting a small business.

I'd definitely say you should add asset acquisition to your 'side-cash' ideas. Buy and produce things that will work for you when you're asleep or doing something else. It's like having automatons working for you. This includes:
>Write e-books. Self-publishing is highly competitive, but certain genres are very easy to self-publish particularly Romance and Erotica, as another user mentioned in art and not hard to write. Once you publish and market the book, it essentially sells itself into perpetuity and gets advertised by other books you write.

Increase assets, reduce liabilities. If you do that, you'll start making more money than you consume.

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I know you don't want a crypto tip but I'm going to give you one anyway.

SAFEX

It's a decentralised anonymous marketplace. There's a ton of covert funding behind it and wholesalers are lining up to leave Amazon because of the extortionate fees.

It's almost totally under the radar at present.

Here for a bit and happy to answer questions.

If you aren’t already into guns, staring to collect historical guns and just buying guns in general is a solid investment.

Indeed. (((People))).

This. Varg Vikernes has the right idea. The only thing expensive that I would buy brand new would be a digital camera. But that's just me.

They don't answer shit. They teach people who have money to invest better than just sitting on their pention. It's boomer philosophy of "oh you got money, stupid millenial, why dont you by an apartment complex!"

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If anyone else is a train wreck and wants a Hail Mary, but Iraqi Dinar. Exchange rate will probably be cutting 3 zeros in a couple years or less. They got their Rothschild central bank so now they'll be allowed to flourish and rebuild postwar. Revaluation proceedures are already proceeding. I bought a million Dinar for 1000 USD. It's slated to go to parity, making me a millionaire. But if it goes to it's prewar value, 1 Dinar will be worth 3.4 USD.

I've filtered several thousand dollars into it over the past couple years. When it pops, I'll be set for life. Again, this is currency speculation, so don't wager your life on it unless you've got nothing else. But all the pieces are in place and they've an announced it's their intention.

Crypto should be called (((esoteric))) because every coin has Jewish esoteric Templar memery attached to it.

It's a template for the NWO currency and a way to shift black market goods like slavery and drug sales. You never know when they'll decide to just delete shit on a whim. All your faggot computer knowledge you faggot nerds claimed back in the early 2000s was BTFO once the government DECIDED To tell you that you were being monitored the whole time.

Fuck Assange too. He never dropped the nukes

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LOL!

Not knowing the Jews plan to blow up the Dome and the whole region with be chaos.

Not knowing Jews plan to leave the entire region from Iran to Red Sea in ruin just to establish a Middle Eastern Union.

Being this fucking stupid…

THANKS DAD!

CAN I HAVE A LOAN TO BUY SHIT?

Fuck off

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Balls. There are thousands of projects.

The elites expected electronic money. They didn't expect decentralised anonymous money.

This fucks them.

Eventually, yes. But they wouldn't have spent 15 years putting a central bank there if they didn't want some kind of return on investment. The idea is to cash out while the value is high, before the region destabilizes again. From there I'll convert my payout to a variety of currencies from both East and West, focusing on being able to survive anything short of a complete global collapse.

I've got some crypto stashed up, never bought anything, always mined.

I don't have that much time to lurk forums and find the next gem that'll make us all rich so, any thoughts?

I've got a steady 2Kh/s monero coming in and around 30MH/s of ETC going on.

I should have sold the chinese QTUM scam when it went to 60$, now i'm stuck with it.
Do you think this'll be any good?

I looked at safex and to be honest, it's been around for a long ass time, what have they done that would get them to be worth at least a dollar?

I'd say set aside some money to invest in the S&P 500 (Vanguard is great if you're an American) but you know how the people here feel about the Jews.

That being said, you may want to check these 3 books out. I'd start with Millionaire Teacher first.

You'll understand why it's better to invest in an Index fund than buy stocks directly.

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Oh, OP. You might consider driving for Uber. I know a lot of people that make a solid enough wage to do it full time, and they'll even rent you a car to use if your own is shit. Really solid part time work.

Don't work for Lyft, their competitor. They're owned by TenCent, a Chink conglomerate that's weaving its tentacles into everything. They own the Discord botnet, for example.

BABYLON WILL RISE AGAIN, maybe?
if the antichrist comes at least we can cash in
hopefully the price stays low til after xmas so I can get a few million

BTC is beyond their control. Other shitcoins, maybe not

this isn't the full thing but their are torrents out there
youtube.com/watch?v=4xci50pUUjU


a list off Zig Forums

Little to no Investment($100-$1k)

Some Investment Required($1k-10k)


Large Investment Required, but still very passive(10k+)

I have no issue with frugality.
I only spend about $100 bucks for 10 days worth of groceries. That's usually, beef, chicken, veggies, rice and beans.
I don't want to just survive on what I have, as much as I want to excel and make lots of money via multiple sources of cash of flow.

ok, once I found out about safex I lost interest in a lot of other crypto but I used to be up on almost everything.

Safex was a one man team for a while. Then the CEO quietly did a deal. If you look hard enough you'll find that people connected to panama papers tax and shipping firms have thrown money at the project.

They've not got an office with 30 staff in Serbia and, I believe, about 50 million$ to spend on marketing once the marketplace is ready.

The CEO is a proven success story. he's built blockchains before and had a success taking victoria's secret to Moscow. Now with a team under him, they've got a deadline for getting the marketplace ready for Christmas shopping.

It'll be targeting mainstream stuff but the anonymous/decentralised aspect means that they'll get the huge dark market too, which hasn't had any place to go since The Silk Road got taken down.

And the beauty of it? Safex will be self contained. Balkaneum will be simply a facilitator so there'll be no one for governments to move against to stop it.

Safex slowly kills corporate mail order.

Story grid? Where might I find it?

Through my company, I have easy access to t-shirts. So I can any amount for like $3 bucks a shirt.
As for the screen printing, there is a few ways to go about it, using another service is out of the question, as that's way to pricey as it is. There is digital print, but that's shitty and will fade with a few washes. (Digi print for the average joe is printing out a sheet of paper with your logo and applying that to special plastic sheet and ironing the thing on).

This is the best video I've found on the subject, if you want to do all the screen printing yourself.

Millionaire Teacher can be downloaded here

8ch.net/pdfs/res/290.html#q9608

Second video for he creation of the screen printing machine.

I don't know man, the bitcoin thing seems like a bubble that I'm not willing to cast my lot into.

Most of this knowledge is only available to those who sat on the discord for months/years. Plus, bittrex delisted safex when we were hitting $8million turnover per day. Then cryptopia did. They were scared imo. but the division between Safex and Balkaneum is genius. It solves this.

And only a few hundred people really understand it or know about it so far.

This will change when the marketing budget kicks in. I expect $1 within 18 months. $5 within 3 years. current price 1.6c

I've been in crypto for almost 2 years. Never seen an opportunity like this.

If you're thinking about stocks

NEVER DO THE FOLLOWING. NEVER EVER

- Buy on margin
- Day trade (the commissions will kill you)
- Believe any inside information
- Buy silver or gold unless the economy is collapsing
- Sell on contra
- Buy CFDs if you're a noob

That's something I've been looking into, do you have any suggestions? I've been looking into just buying stocks that will yield dividends. That way I don't just have $1000 bucks sitting in my bank account, when I could have it making money for me.

I seriously appreciate the advice by the way.

more of these book threads please

Any suggestions on how to get started? I'm pretty ignorant on this crypto business.

The trouble with that right now, is that I'm not 25, I can't rent a car till then. And my car isn't shit but it's off by one year. I have a 2003 Mazda that is nice looking and in good shape, but it has to be 2004.

In a couple of years, or if I decide to get another car, I should be able to do Uber. I've seen folks make some great money through that. It's like running pizza, but instead you're delivering people.

Watch some youtube videos would be a first step. Learn how decentralisation let you step outside of government jurisdiction. once you understand how it works then you'll have to invest or earn earn some.

It's possible but hard to earn on steemit. I think the days of free crypto being thrown at you are mostly over.

Good goy take and use (((federal reserve))) (((currency)))

That's not what "cash" is, kiddo. Money isn't value, it's debt. They're putting Iraqis into bondage and it wont be worth shit. No cash out, nothing.


You want to invest in Iraq? Buy property and sell it to the Jews.


LOL


RETARDS — NOTHING IS user ANYMORE! THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE!


THANKS DAD!

CAN I HAVE A LOAN TO INVEST!?

See 5yrs ago. Uber is flooded and they adjusted it so you are poor.


Idiots


idiots


EVERYTHING YOU MENTIONED WORKED 5-10yrs ago. Now it's flooded and thousands of youtube videos being sold teaching this, because they did it and can't make money anymore. So they live on youtube hits.

Idiots


lol gullible idiots. I have a bridge to sell you.


Then go fuck yourself, you fucking idiot.
Jesus christ


WTF is wrong with you? If I had all that I'd recourse I'd just fucking chill and not worry about money.
Sorry, I know you tried to help but I'm drunk posting and angry, and you're still an idiot.


THANKS DAD!

CAN I HAVE A LOAN TO INVEST IN THE JEW CASINO?


Unless you live in an area that is very transient and you can do long rides (dont do uber do the other one) then it's not worth it. Be a pizza boy. Better tips, less wear and tare.


lol

fucking idiots


If this board was for Jews or full of hateful evil Jews trying to destroy what's good in life, we'd have at least on money/jobs/planning thread that wasnt full of middle class niggers who are following basic trends and we'd all hook each other up.

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Correction
*WASN'T FULL OF EVIL JEWS

Trade Options.

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Any sane investor will tell you never 8nvest in crypto. It's too volatile. Sure you might get lucky but so's going to the casino.>>12164532

You're a simple minded cretin if you think you understand the disruptive nature of crypto.

Look at how easily torrenting destroyed the music industry. They barely even police downloads now. It fucked them.They lost.

This will happen with Currency (bitcoin or alternative) and then Markets (Safex is my pick for this)

How many of the many many Silk Road admins did they catch? Just one. And it took them ages and he fucked up. And that was centralised.

There's no one to arrest with decentralisation. Get that through your head.

oooooooh woooooo technical. STFU it's all esoteric kikery black market shit. You're a fucking noob to the real world.

Dude, you're being really black pilled about this. We gotta make money so we can help each other out, that means exploring our options and seeing where there is a market need and capitalizing on that.

If you watch the video, it shows you how to make your own screen printing machine. It requires you to actually invest some time and money building the thing, but it's the best option out there (as far as I know) to actually make and sell your own t-shirts.

Anyways, as for buying rental property, I was thinking I could buy a townhouse and live in one side while I rent the other side out to someone I trust. Though that requires a bit of cash up front. Far better than a house in my opinion.

By the way, why don't you advise us on some real money making avenues? Instead of criticizing everything?

Save up first. The stock market will still be around when you got the cash.

Or you can contact your local Vanguard representative. They start with a min $1k for some funds.

investor.vanguard.com

They're one of the lowest commission fund investors around. But as always, do your research first.

Dude, if most of us had a house/garage and those kind of recources we could do anything.

I know. I feel very blackpilled. You need money to make money and if I had money to invest I wouldn't even be here anymore redpilling people or getting banned by the deep state online. I'd be looking for a wife. Obviously many of us are outliners of society with high IQs and drive but you need money to make money.

Washington State… that's where the money is right now for that kind of lifestyle.

That's because I'm fucking shit out of ideas, bro. I've done almost all of them that requires no reserves money in this thread. Money to make money…
Bitcoin is stupid. Betting on UFC is smarter because if you learn martial arts it's not hard to play the odds. In the end both are gambling. Altough UFC is getting bought by the Chinks so soon it will be all staged.
It's not. There is a way to tell. Points and fake knock-out wins are easy to see.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO FUCKING SIGN IN TODAY?


If you have a 1K start up to throw into the wind and you're playing the Jew casino of stocks or bitcoin you deserve to lose your money

Then get a job and save up money. It works for literally everyone.

YOU MOTHERFUCKING DEEP STATE FUCKING WEBSITE FAGGOTS MAKE ME SIGN IN AGAIN?!


Sure thing, boss.

I'll just go to the job store and ask for a middle class job. Or maybe I'll spend the next 5yrs in a trade until I can make enough money to start investing in your thread's suggestions.

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Maybe later tonight, I'm at work now. And assuming this thread isn't locked and anchored

Please don't stop posting. You're very amusing when you sperg out.

I'm very drunk and have a horrible 10yrs today. I will keep askingdaddy for investment money until one of you buys me a house with a garage to build a bussiness.

You sure about that? haha if you knew how much I've made the past 20 years… Even kangs don't do as well running after rubber balls.

Gold is a reserve currency. It holds value during debt fluctuations. It's a stagnate value. So you buy low, sell high. You can do that with anything. You can do that with fucking used cars on craigslists.

Ron Paul lied to us!

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Nigga u best not be shortin dem etfs

Learn you some erlang for best networking. learnyousomeerlang.com/book

If you're looking for dividends, look into 'Dividend Aristocrats' lists. They are mature, stable companies that have maintained or increased their dividend yields consistently over the past 15 years. Past performance =/= guaranteed future success, but it's generally a decent bet. If you buy dividend-yielding companies, don't sell them unless you observe the company going into an irrevocable decline due to mismanagement or whatever (and before the selling panic takes place). To make dividends really pay off though you need to invest a lot of money. Dividend Yields (the dividend value divided by the stock's current value) for them are usually like 2% - 3% annually, so you need a lot of money to make dividends pay out significantly. You'd want to plow it back into your portfolio anyway.

An even better idea is usually to look into what is called an 'Index Fund', which is a fancy way of saying it is a mutual fund that buys the entire market and reflects the average of that whole market. The benefit is you get a return of the average every year, the drawback is that you only get the average every year. This is really great though because in the long term, very few portfolios beat the market average every year for very long. Vanguard, as said, does this and is basically all the diversification you'd ever need when it comes to companies.

Another tip: When the economy crashes, hold on to your stock investments. Don't sell in the general panic. Instead look at it as a clearance sale. When Brexit's vote happened, those who bought their index funds (like me) made 5% - 10% in less than a week. Many of those who would have held onto their stocks during the Great Depression would have been millionaires by the time the 50's and 60's rolled around. When the mass panics, stay calm and look for opportunities.


First, calm down and assess what you have. You obviously have a computer, you have hands, some kinds of skills, and other skills and talents. You live somewhere, have some possessions, and can go out and observe opportunities. The way you dig yourself out of a hole without any tools is to dig with your hands until you gather enough rocks and debris to make yourself a shovel. Many small-businesses are started in peoples' garages with nothing. My writing began with nothing, I published two books, made $10, and used that $10 to join a forum that taught me how to publish better, made $60, then bought better cover art to sell more books. I started with nothing, and made something step by step. Now I'm starting my business with almost no starting capital and I don't even have a fucking garage.

If you're feeling terribly blackpilled right now, get over to the Self Improvement thread and work on mastering yourself and your immediate environment before you seek out solutions to your economic situation. Your body and mind are your ultimate assets, so improve them as you main directive right now. But ultimately if you want to accrue wealth you will need to reduce your liabilities and build up your assets. Right now you've got time and manpower and whatever skills you have or can quickly acquire. Figure it out, and look forward to it. The more pain you have to endure for it, the more glory there will be for you when you achieve it.

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All good advice but if we have another big crash I feel like there will need to be something more than just the usual "tighten your belt and get in the bread line". They keep putting off the natural correction, it's gonna be a doozy.

That might actually be a good idea. Iran wants Iraq in its' orbit, as do their enemies the Kikes and Sauds. They really can't lose as long as they avoid war.

I ran into this the other day
"phone farming"
pretty much collect old smart phones, and run ads on it all day? Start to invest in more phones and tablets, buying nothing more then $40 each
literally makes you money (pennies?) while you work your real job. From what I read online it's only like ten bucks a day :/ but I'm sure some poo in the loo has perfected it


I'm a drawfag. I stopped working for four years then just recently got back into it. Now I can't find any more commissions, it's as if all the kids grew up and are not flooding the "art workforce". But I find the real "money" for drawfags in on youtube. Making tutorials, speed paints etc. Even if you're doing something lame like pouring paint on a block of wood if you can film it right you get the views.

I see someone said they wrote a story? Where I can read? Can I comic? People have short attention spans now and like comics and cartoons now.

A few years ago I had the idea for graphic/printed socks. Because people need more socks then they need t shirts and god forbid the market is already flooded with a billion t shirt websites.

In general the job market depends on where you are. Where we are at now is backwards land. There are more jobs than people. The hillbillies here are so fucking lazy and just collect unemployment but we still get tourist in the summer and they need workers.

I'm really keen about Georgia, that's the new Hollywood. Lots of TV and movie work there. When I was in New York I did extra work and that is the easiest damn thing in the world, and it pays A LOT. Most of the day you're just sitting around in holding so you can bring your cell phone/tablet/laptop and work on other stuff when you're not standing around pretending to talk to a stranger.

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I make what you make working 40hrs a week in 10hrs a week. And I collect money passively everyday whether I work or not. How? Trade ideas/systems for money instead of labor for money. You have to untether your time to your money. That's what separates wage-slaves from the wealthy.

I own about 6 different websites; 1 e-commerce brand with physical inventory and a few websites that collects ad revenue/affiliate income. These websites collectively make 2-4k a month and only work about 10 hours a week on them.

My very first business I made $150k my first year because I was first to market with a product in a growing niche. I was 24 years old and my initial investment was $300. I eventually got cucked out by the Chinese who copied my product and undercut me so bad I couldn't compete. But it was a learning experience.

The most valuable lesson is that it's possible to turn something out of nothing and if I could do it once I can do it again and again.

You need a side-hustle user. Anyone can do what I do you just need to learn a few key concepts

Godspeed.

You're a good person, user. But I dont have a garage or an editor and none of that feel good shit amounts to anything. Every white man who tried to give financial advice ends up with feel goods. It's meaningless. Jews just hook each other up with good jobs.

You dig rocks, you stay in the dirt. There is no escape.

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You're a good person, user. But I dont have a garage or an editor and none of that feel good shit amounts to anything. Every white man who tried to give financial advice ends up with feel goods. It's meaningless. Jews just hook each other up with good jobs.

You dig rocks, you stay in the dirt. There is no escape.


Pro-tip

Dont be fooled by the "next big movie spot". It's a lie. the reason you made money in NYC is because of AFTRA wages where they wont force you to be in the union. You go outside of the theater district and you will be forced to join after 3 jobs. The rest is minimum wage.

Yeah no shit retard

Oh yes, it will be catastrophic when they brakes finally go out. But we have an analogue in history for that in Germany post WWI to study. Basically cultivate yourself and your organizations so that when the SHTF you'll have people ready to spring into well-practiced action. "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity."


Check out 99designs.com then. I'll be using it soon to collect an artist for card game design work. It's bidding for big-boy commission projects with companies. Might help you out.
Web comics are extremely lucrative if you can get noticed and meme'd. Exploding Kittens became the most successful crowdfunding game project released because The Oatmeal used his web comic art in it. The key would be getting your artwork in front of your audience, and god knows anons adore topical media.
Go for it. Everyone thinks t-shirts, but few ever think natural accessories like socks or gloves when it comes to printing work.


That's the right sort of thinking. Make assets that work for you, and you will be able to allocate your time and efforts elsewhere. Self-publishing was a good way to learn marketing, SEO, and creative design all at once. There are more options like that too.


Or perhaps you produce rocks to lay the foundation of something more than just a hole. Hard work is not your enemy, and in fact is very uplifting so long as you see what purpose it serves. You dig hard now so that you can fund your asset - whatever it is - to reach your goal. For instance, you say:
And that is irritating because their networks get them opportunities which are closed off to you. Perhaps you have a goal like mine to make networks that will uplift people just like you and build a community for your own. Then your metaphorical digging is to save enough money to invest in the equipment you'll need to employ others in the work you find worthy. Or whatever your goal is, the digging becomes simply a means of getting there. The digging is pointless only if you are not stepping towards a goal that you have found to be meaningful.

When I was in a pretty bad existential downturn, I played this short steam game store.steampowered.com/app/517910/Sisyphus_Reborn/. It's super simple but was rather helpful and hopeful, and it's free. It might give you a different perspective on how to look at the Sisyphean dilemma in general.

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The problem with non-investors or first timers is when they think 'invest', the first thing that comes to mind is the quick money shit they see in Hollywood movies.

That's not investment. That's speculation.

Real investment is to buy a stock/index at a good price and hold it for years or decades, earning dividends along the way (which, hopefully you reinvest) so you can cash out when you retire and have something to live on in your golden years.

You need to do a lot of research if you're buying stocks yourself so you don't end up with a basket of lemons. Read annual reports, books, market news etc. You need to be disciplined and not panic when the market goes up and down or even collapses since that shit happens all the time. That means choosing good stocks. You need to keep cash in the bank as well for a rainy day fund. You need to supplement with bonds since they do up when shares down. You need to diversify your holdings.

Or you can just buy and hold an Index (S&P 500) and a TIPS etf. That should be good enough. Either way, a lot of research is required, and more than can be said in one thread alone.

You can also get a mutual fund manager to take care of your shit for you but expect to incur a lot of charges. 2% per annum of your entire holdings in annual management fees can eat a lot into your investment.

As mentioned before : Past performance is not indicative of future performance.

everyone should watch the video

You all will have to finance this shit without me, reading this thread just reminds me I've got no hope

Does she allow you to visit your balls on alternating weekends?

Great post, and I agree. There are a lot of misconceptions about what stocks are, how you properly invest in them rather then speculate, and what to expect from such investments. Also philosophically there's a need to overcome the idea that the stock market is just another form of usury or (((bad business practice))). Maybe you should make a thread on it since I am curious too about how to properly learn how to assess stock values and make intelligent purchases.


Then get some. Put that IQ to good use and learn some new stuff. And have your fiance hold you to your duties towards making yourself into a better man. You've got more to work with than many, including a mate, so brainstorm and make something happen.

I like living frugally, but where I live thrift stores aren't that cheap. I'd rather buy clearance items from Zara and Uniqlo than a well used item for half the price. Nice clothes make you respectable and wearing clothes that are half way in fashion make you look like you have your lift together. That makes networking easier since nobody respects you if you're a scrub (some people can look past it, but many don't). They also make you attractive to women, which will give you more opportunities to spread your aryan genes.

Meme career. Real talk, learn CAD.

daily reminder that Index funds and ETFs are a good way of making yearly returns, without the risk of the stock market. They are baskets of stocks that are pricked from indexes. The funds are designed to track the index. If the index (ie dow jones, s&p) goes up, the index fund goes up. Index funds are traded like mutual funds but have much lower fees because they don't require fund managers (fund managers eat up a lot of the profits from traditional mutual funds), and they are also less risky. ETFs are "exchange traded" - meaning an Index fund that can be sold on the stock market.

Daily reminder for Burgers: just get the vanguard 500 fund. it's been the best performing index fund for the last 30 years. All it does is track the S&P 500 which has been steadily going up (and will continue to go up because of inflation).

search "index fund" or "ETF" in library genesis and you'll get lots of good books that talk about this stuff.

An Aryan should learn as much about business and finance as he does about the Jews and their misdeeds.

I really want to learn CAD so I can machine gun parts.

Thank you.

Anyway, if you want to learn more about investments, Here are some links you might find useful

Boglehead Investment Forums
bogleheads.org/forum/index.php

HWZ Stocks Shares and Indices Forum (Singapore)
forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/stocks-shares-indices-92/

Investopedia
investopedia.com

All you ever wanted to know about about ETFs
etf.com/etf-education-ce.html