Non Indo-European Whites / Siberan Whites

I find it very interesting that supposedly the R1b and N halogroups originated in West Asia.
The Finns, Estis, and Hungarians all have an Uglic language base. If Aryan is defined as peoples deriving from an Indo-Iranian-Scythian language group, does this mean those Europeans are not technically Aryan, but rather non-Aryan whites?
Or are Finns/Estis whites that did not get Romanticized/Hellenized by the Roman Empire/Hellenistic world view? Have whites lived for thousands of years bearing a Siberan language and culture before Alexander? Do the Hyperboreans have a role in this?
Talk about non-Romantic/Hellenistic, Eurasian white culture and origins.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian_language
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians
genetiker.wordpress.com/2018/03/03/k-14-admixture-analysis-of-ancient-southeastern-european-genomes/
genetiker.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/k-11-admixture-analysis-of-amerindians-and-eskimos/
humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html
genetiker.wordpress.com/pigmentation/
theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?44657-Corded-Type-(Battle-Axe-type)
i.imgur.com/llDCl3M.png
humanphenotypes.net/Hallstatt.html
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You mean the Urals? hyperborea is there for a reason

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Wew, you're all over the place. The Scythian Celts were Aryans that migrated both East, West and South. It wasn't just "one way". Life doesn't work in such simplicity.

You should further understand the so called 'Nordic Peoples' were an offshoot of those same Scythian Celts that migrated Westward into continental Europe. It is unknown why the originally split away from Celts in Germany and Austria. One theory is they were a homosexual cult of faggot hermits living in complete poverty, until Khazarian Jewish merchants eventually made their way to Sweden, through the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth corridor. Those same Khazarian Jewish merchants proceeded to hire Danish/Swedish 'Viking Mercenaries' to attack the very same continental & insular Celts whom they originated from centuries prior. It is the biggest Western historic dupe of all time. A Jewish dupe that has latest over 900 years now. The financial connections between Khazarian Jewish merchants and the Swedish Vikings still last to this day.

Further noted, is the Scottish National founding documents which specifically word their peoples Scythian origins. There are demonic Jews and madmen on this board right now that rage with insanity when this suppressed history is released. The eternal Jew fears the Celt more than the Samurai and seeks to eliminate the Celt entirely from history through genocide and revisionism.

Germany is a Celtic nation. The German National Socialist were a Celtic political movement allied with lasting Roman remnants. Many Celtic Emperors have ruled Rome over the course of it's timeline. The later Holy Roman Empire was particularly Celtic. Each of them are ruthlessly slandered by Jewish historians in the West as monsters and crazy men.

You may not enjoy knowing this, but historical fact is still fact. The Swedish Vikings sold themselves to the Khazarian Jews 900 years ago. Those same Viking and Jewish political financial alliances went on to build the British Empire after Cromwell's bloody revolution in 1648.

Adolf Hitler knew about the Jewish & Viking connection. (invasion of denmark speaks for itself) So, a long story short would be that the Swedish were a cult of outcast banished by their continental Celtic family. Later, selling their souls for a bag full of shekels to murder their own Celtic blood during the Norman Invasion financed by a Jewish merchant by the name of Josce of Gloucester: "Josce, Jew of Gloucester, for 100 shillings.

The Khazarian Jew still owns Sweden today at the full complicity of it's homosexual Swedish populace (swedes = banished celts 1,000-1,200 years ago).

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This is possibly the highest energy shilling I've ever seen. You Jesuits are unmatched in deceit. Reported.

Ah, I love schizophrenic fake history

Finns are genetically almost-swedes (except less cucked). Hungarians are genetically German.

History is a handmaiden to ideology.

Hungarians and Finns were both originally nonwhite and basically got heavily assimilated genetically while retaining their original language. Both were some form of steppe asian. You can still see remnants of the original populations, extremely rural Hungarians and easternmost Finns often have asian-looking eyes. They mixed so much with the Germans and Swedes respectively that the nonwhite genes were mostly subsumed and filtered out over time, but they kept speaking the same language.

I love the Scythians. I don't know where you got I was bashing on them.

I knew the end game of your cro-magnon and neanderthal bullshit was building up to tying nordics up with jews. You people are getting very predictable.

Is it weird that I have a strange love of the Finnish people even though I'm not a Finn at all? They're just so strange and not like most other European peoples. I mean they fought off the USSR single handedly which is impressive…

Europeans are Aryan and descended from the same indo-european ancestors as iranics and other indo-aryans.

Do you have some links to support the homo Sweden thing? Anglo upper class parties have tons of stag horns. It still looks really Scythian.

You're right about the Holy Roman Empire. Jews really shit on it. They pretty much created the dark age meme to spite it's existence.

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Not entirely true. They had about 8000 volunteers from Sweden, 1500 from Norway and about 500 from Denmark. Might not seem like a lot but those "volunteers" brought a decent amount of hardware with them, and funds also arrived from a couple of organizations which weren't tied to governments. The reason for it was to avoid official declarations of war against the Soviets.

Language family =/= race

The only finns like that have Sami blood in them. Finns are basically a mix between Swedes and Baltic people to look at them.

Ah true enough, of course they had winter on their side as well and were fighting on their turf. It's still a great inspiration knowing they managed to check the soviets and avoided total annexation like other states couldn't avoid. They also had some pilot aces which racked up some of the most kills only being beat by the Germans in WW2 iirc. That and they had the White Death who was and still is the most lethal sniper ever and he managed to survive a fucking explosive bullet to the jaw and live past the wars end and lived to be 96, and he was just a normal farmer who took up arms to defend his homeland. I guess that they also sided with the Germans against the Soviets as well makes me think highly of them too.

They sided with the Germans against the Soviets, and many Finns joined the Waffen-SS. The surviving SS men are now being investigated at the request of jews, btw. A they made peace with the Soviets, they had to reluctantly expel the Germans from Finland as part of the peace terms. Then after the war they had to pay reparations to the Soviets, which had the side effect of spuring the country to industrialize. As far as air combat is concerned, the swastika was the symbol of the Finnish air force until recently. There is a museum in Tikkakoski where you can see the planes. Every once in a while there will be an article about tourists mistaking it for an NSDAP symbol.

No such thing. If it ain't Japhethite, it ain't white

I definitely want to visit Finland at some point when in Europe, and I do like air history so that'd be neat to see. I'm glad I haven't heard much about Finland getting fucked by the left, unless it just isn't talked about. I think there are a lot of European countries and peoples that just get overlooked as the Germans and Anglos usually take the spotlight.

Maybe I have more of a care about people like the Finns, Celts, and Baltic peoples because they're minorities within our own minority so they're in even more danger of extinction and have their own interesting history and culture which would be a shame to lose as so much has already been lost.

Finland is Sweden minus 10 years.

Haplogroup N has many different branches
Finnic languages replaced Indo-European languages possibly somewhere between 5. century BC and 5. century AD
Proto-Finnic culture and later Finnic cultures are largerly affected by Indo-European cultures
The reason why Finns speak another language is due Asian genes

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lole

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Divide and conquer. There's a handful of jewish strategems, they can be counted on a single hand, and they don't change. They haven't changed for centuries, which is why it's all the more infuriating to know that instead of recognising their everpresent threat, our ancestors and other ancient non-Europeans played hot potato with them, kicking them from place to place.

In South Asia R1a1a has often been observed with high frequency in a number of demographic groups. The main two subclades of R1a1a are R1a1a* and R1a1a7. R1a1a7 is positive for M458 an SNP that separate it from the rest of R1a1a. It is significant because M458 is a European marker and the epicenter is Poland. M458 marker is rare in India.

In India, high percentage of this haplogroup is observed in West Bengal Brahmins (72%) to the east, Konkanastha Brahmins (48%) to the west, Khatris (67%) in north and Iyenger Brahmins (31%) of south. It has also been found in several South Indian Dravidian-speaking Adivasis including the Chenchu (26%) and the Valmikis of Andhra Pradesh and the Kallar of Tamil Nadu suggesting that M17 is widespread in Tribal Southern Indians.

Besides these, studies show high percentages in regionally diverse groups such as Manipuris (50%) to the extreme North East and in Punjab (47%) to the extreme North West.

Kill yourself faggot jew

I know this feel. They are just a quirky, loveable people. And the ones here in America are bro-tier.

gene thread #3

Source?

It's not.

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NO shit. You know that Aesir means asia-men, right?

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Wtf, we're all chosen Scythians n sheit? Now I don't feel special anymore.

No it doesn’t, and no you may not. Keep my title out of this.

does this mean those Europeans are not technically Aryan, but rather non-Aryan whites?

Full retard

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it literally means the thing it does in indian & persian, i.e., spirit, lifeforce

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This is some turkroach turanism tier shit.

Poles are the real chosen and the synagogue of Satan will worship before our feet.

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Our IE ancestors really fucked up the B*Sque fags

They, the Indo-Europeans and the Uralic, came from the same stock, the primordial Aryans.
Uralics such as the Hungarians and the Finns are, or were, simply another kind of White. However, most of their population is mixed or outright "converted."

It's the other way around, Scythians are the ones who went into the British Isles.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Europe
Shalom bracie, we are G-d's chosen people

Yes,
we even hold fake jewish weddings in Poland
we aren't the Christ of Europe
we are the anti Christ of Europe you dumb silly goyim
>jta.org/2017/08/09/news-opinion/world/polish-villagers-hold-jewish-wedding-without-jews

This is because Europeans (and Americans by extension) and the middle east have a common origin in Ancient Vedic India. I wrote a blog post on it recently - sptrp.home.blog/2018/10/11/who-are-the-aryans/

Y chromosome haplogroups are irrelevant. Autosomal DNA determines race, not Y chromosome.

as long as you throw around the word "aryan" without specifying its meaning the point is moot
Finns and Estonians despite their languages have large affinity to corded ware people who were one of the earliest bunch in north Europe to carry steppe ancestry and speak IE tongues

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But Europids as a Race don't originate in India.
Those would be Denisovians.

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Uhhh….

user, you do understand what AESIR means right? Asia-men. That was almost half of our genetic stock, after the split from Hyperborea.

You are retarded

Where the fuck can I learn about genetic lineage stuff? It seems complicated as shit and it seems like no one in these threads even agrees with each other on anything.

Who We Are by William Pierce is pretty interesting. And this (eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml) is a pretty interesting read, as well. Don't listen to a lot of the autistics and shills in here - seek out non-kosher sources and read as many as you can. I always try to back things up with known History and account for bias as well. It is a pretty difficult field.

Idiots are looking for Aryans in Asia when clearly the only true blue eyed region in the world is Europe. The Aryans from the East are likely just the first mixture of whites and asiatics, which they then used to dominate people around them. They were not pure Aryans though, their way of life demostrates this (plunder, murder, jewry, race mixing). Just because the Romans called them blonde does not mean they were pure Aryans.

Not even close to half, but they were more heavily represented in some ruling classes. This explains the cultural impact and also the somewhat lack of genetic impact. The mix increases as you go East.

That was Hitler twisting the meaning of the word. True Aryans are a complex mix of culture+family+species. See

No, that is you and your like twisting the obvious truth. The ancestors of whites were blue eyed blondes, with later admixture accounting for the darker features creeping in. These so called Eastern Aryans may very well have been part of this later admixture, but they were clearly not the original as genetics show. How do we know this? Because every civilization we know in history was either heavily blonde or worshipped the traits. Not brown, not red, not yellow. Always blonde.

Yet you are all so quick to believe (((scientists))) who try to claim that your ancestors were swarthy mutts.

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Also I am not quick to believe any scientists. Those against the Aryan Invasion Theory give very good reasons for being so - misinterpretation of evidence, contradicting evidence, falsified evidence, nonexistent evidence, conflicting timelines, impossible chronological order of events etc. If you read even one of the articles linked in my post you would not be so quick to lay false allegations.

Out of 15 of these egyptian gods I forgot to add, not a single one of them is blonde.

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Simo Hayha is my idol. I too am much better at shooting rifles with plain ironsights (although he also used them for tactical advantage). Granted, he was practically fighting on easy difficulty against Russians (who were notoriously incompetent, I would bet he'd fare much worse against Germans), but the kill count is still impressive.

Hitler was mistaken in thinking the Aryans from Central Asia were our original ancenstors. But the concept he and the other NatSoc's had in mind was always that of a "nordic" primordial race. My assumption therefore was that you were subscribing to the idea that the Yamnaya were our mighty ancestors as I see so many on pol do these days. Well, if they had dark features they were clearly not, they just had our blood.

India created a caste system based on light complexion. They were big on blondeness, though over the millenia they probably forgot, as lightness of skin was all some of them had left.

The same is true of Egypt where not only are those Gods much lighter than the present population, but we have DNA evidence from the Pharaos telling us they had North European DNA (though not pure of course).

And in America we have tribes talking about white Gods. You are on pol, you should know all of this. Even the Chinese have admixture as evidenced by Genghis Khan and his descendants (light features), and the white mummies found in Western China. Japan imo is above all the other chinks because their island enabled them to preserve their admixture to a greater degree. Just take a picture of guy like Tishoro Mifune and put it next to one of Mao. Non Jewish research would probably reveal a white admixture there as well.

The caste system was not created on complexion. Please give me sources. If you read my blog post, the renowned vedic scholar Srila Prabhupada gives several qualifications one has to meet to become an Aryan. Similar qualifications exist for each caste.

The chinks are a lower race so I don't care what they do. Their degenerate practices don't interest me. For finding the truth, we should always refer to the highest standard, that of the Aryans way of living and culture. I just posted the other gods because on cursory examination none of them valued blue-eyed blonde features in their Gods. Look to the Aryans. They don't value these white features because demigods didn't come from humans, they are real living entities described in the vedas and so we have authoritative knowledge on how they look. Aryans 'happened' to be light complexioned. It doesn't make them the "light of the world" or something like that, any more than Lord Sri Krishna's being dark makes him an evil God.

How am I supposed to know where your blog post is? Your id has 1 post in this thread. Not 8c6ca7 either.

Looking at the higher and lower castes gives the answer to that question. Take Salman Rushdie and put him next to any random poo in the loo and tell me the former is not descended from white stock. How else could he keep those features surrounded by niggers for thousands of years? And that these lighter castes seperated themselves from the others really tells us all we have to know about the core of the system. It's not hard science, but we know like we know when two men holding hands come out of the loo. I have no doubt that later all kinds of complicated corruptions arose, but the system seems to have been created to keep the blood pure. Or perhaps, unique cultural and religious qualities, but those also originate in the blood. And that blood just happens to be white. And I said all civilizations either had white blood OR worshipped the trait. And even if their Gods are not all blonde, their modern population certainly worships blondeness in a defacto sense. Bleaching their hair, chasing girls, their own commericals and tv actors etc.

My bad. I didn't realize my id had changed. I'm the same guy as here - . My blog post is also linked in that post. I'll put the link here too - sptrp.home.blog/2018/10/11/who-are-the-aryans/

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mfw Scythian and Alan languages and people still exist.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetian_language
The remainder became and-or were incorporated into a large number of European people groups.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians

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Feels good to be a Polish Sarmatian Scythian Israelite. Poles are the latest evolution of God's chosen people. Why else do you think we're such better Christians than the rest of the world and taking such a huge stand against open border degeneracy?

On the off-chance you're not a shill - because the FP is - the 'coincidence' stems from common origins. The long and short of it is every local IE/Aryan culture is IE/Aryan + local substrate. So for the Scandinavian (Germanic) branch, that's IE + NW Euro HG + TINY amount of Neareastern Farmer (sometimes ANE, Ancient Neareastern). Greeks are mostly NE Farmer + IE. French are a mishmash of NE Farmer + IE + NW Euro HG + other HG groups (French are basically multiple Germanic, Gallic, Greek, and Latin peoples blended together, on a north-south gradient; more Germanic-Celtic in north, more Greek-Roman in south). Indians are mostly a confluence of West/South Asian HG groups, ANE, Australoid (the main component of Dravidians), and small layer of IE mostly in the upper crusts.

On the off-chance that's confusing anyone, the take-away is this: there were groups before the IE settled everywhere. IE tribes came into contact with local tribes. Scholar cunts call them PIE because there were multiple waves of settlement, invasion, whatever from out of the steppes; and while there is clear evidence of a language family, there is no hard evidence of an Indo-European language ever existing at any point (but it almost certainly did). The closest thing to that is loanwords in Finno-Ugric languages and a few other languages which clearly come from something before Proto-Germanic and pretty much perfectly correspond to the sound shifts anticipated by linguists.

The first migration from the steppes was to Anatolia, the second was arguably the Tocharians to the Tarim Basin, the third were the Germanic-Celtic branch, and it keeps proceeding like this until the last to separate was the Balto-Slavic branch at which point IE was a dead tongue and all that was left was its offspring. Each branch interacted differently with the locals, and the peculiarities of when the branches of IE split as well as the integration with local peoples - I call them pre-IE substrates because we only know of the cultures and languages through loan words, phrases, and place names borrowed into IE languages, as well as archeological finds - that is what produced the specific cultures and languages. There is nothing mythical or mysterious about this.


There's a correlation though. Finns, Estonians, and Hungarians are mostly European despite speaking tongues where the majority of the other speakers (Sami/Lapp, Mordvins, etc.) are clearly Asiatic.

I've said this before and I'll probably have to say it again, Y- and mitochondrial (mT) haplogroups are good for tracking migratory patterns but that's about it. Your Y chromosome is only found on ~50% of the pop and codes functionally for rather little (though allosomes obviously result in most sexual dimorphism) and the mT chromosome is literally vital but again codes for a small part of your overall body. In either case you're looking at strictly patrilineal or strictly matrilineal descent respectively, which even if you're only going say six generations back is only going to show something like 6/126 in each case. Autosomal DNA is clearly the more informative approach. It's also more expensive to test and more complicated, so I can see why people don't look at it as much, but going forward I think people should prefer it. Even with a 1,500 loci analysis that looks primarily at autosomal DNA you'll learn more than you would with more loci looking at allosomes.


Fuck off, you're wrong. It's fine if you want to hold wrong beliefs for the sake of your own faith - I encourage people to do things which strengthen their faith even if it means delusion - but don't poison the well here. The pattern of migration and habitation is clear. Indians wouldn't be shitskin monkeys if they were white… This should be obvious.

HOLY SHIT STOP REPLYING TO THIS FUCKING INDIAN MOUTH BREATHER FUCKKKKK

BTW in response to myself I'm going to come here and say that one of the reasons I stopped coming here is because this place turned to shit. I used to post here a fair bit, but between the schizos, turbo retards, and deep space shitposters I couldn't fucking handle it and fucked off to 4/pol/ because even though the shilling and sliding is harder there, the bantz are better and the autism is a little lighter.

tl;dr Finns, Estonians, and Hungarians are white, have always been white except for when they were first ruled by Asiatic overlords (but it's been a while since then). I don't have any proof of it but I suspect that although niggers say the Yamnaya/Corded Ware (PIE) are basically swarthy Siberians, it doesn't jive with any of the actual evidence aside from that there's some genetic overlap between PIE and Siberians which could be explained multiple ways. Current sciencefag fashion is to call everyone kangs and niggers, so fat surprise that they're saying the real Brits were black, Jewish, and beautiful, and Yakub spawned whities and stole they land. Half of what sciencefags write is true and the other half is lies, and you have to be well-read enough to discern the good from the fat nigger lipped bullshit.

Not all of the pre-Aryan Europeans were from Siberia. Remember our Basque brothers.

About Aryans in Asia

Aryan Buddhist kingdoms along the Silk Road etc.

90% truth, 10% lie. Nice try kike.

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Aryans is just a word Indo-Aryans used to describe themselves as
It was later adopted by various of scientists/racialists
Indo-Europeans come from Eastern Europe, they are represented by the EHG component in Europeans
genetiker.wordpress.com/2018/03/03/k-14-admixture-analysis-of-ancient-southeastern-european-genomes/
Amerindians are partly EHG but their component shows as red there
genetiker.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/k-11-admixture-analysis-of-amerindians-and-eskimos/

Not all Aryans were light-blonde, the proto-Nordids were possibly dark blonde or brown haired
humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html
genetiker.wordpress.com/pigmentation/
Then they mixed with Globular Amphora, who were light-blonde haired with mostly farmer DNA, making the Corded Nordid type
theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?44657-Corded-Type-(Battle-Axe-type)
i.imgur.com/llDCl3M.png

Hallstatt have funnelbeaker DNA, who were also mostly farmers, and some scandinavian HG DNA
humanphenotypes.net/Hallstatt.html

*more funnelbeaker

And they haven't changed much, caucasians are known to be inbred thanks to cousin marriages.

I miss seeing all her edits, better days.