Where should the Alt-Right's stance on Christianity, paganism and atheism be?

You have obviously noticed the different beliefs that members of the alt-right have, such as atheist alt-righters, pagan alt-righters and Christian alt-righters going around Zig Forums and other areas where our presence is known, it is an issue that could cause infighting, separation and abandonment of the alt-right. This hasn't been an entirely big issue that we are divided on belief systems in our cause since we've all been apart of the alt-right for son long despite our different beliefs but it would help if we had discussed what direction the alt-right's beliefs should take, should we be Christian, pagan, atheist or something else entirely?

I'd give some points opposing and supporting each side in this thread.

Christian points and counter points:

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The alt-kike should associate with the oven.

I see, by the alt-kike do you mean the Christian side of the alt-right or something else? I'm assuming Christian due to how they are the most Jewish related.

go away alt kike

Natsoc or gtfo forever

Clearly you don't see. I mean (((you))) ari.

sage

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You faggots are retarded, this is an issue that can separate and divide the alt-right in the future and you fags refuse to address the issue, you guys are such fags, man.

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Go back to Leddit you fuck

gas the kikes

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heil deluxe

Alt-right is COINTELPRO.
>>>/reddit/

Libido dominandi, shill.

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I think religion and race/politics are two mutually exclusive concepts that shouldn't be mixed. There are nigger pagans too by the way

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Go back to CNN.

Dont fall for controlled opposition goys.

You sign your report with the word "faggot", you faggot traitor.

Alt right just magically appeared this election cycle, had no leader or creator and only was identified as younger people not falling for leftist propaganda– really makes you think.

You're first in line, faggot.

kekekek

fucking jews

Who gives a fuck OP, Alt Kike is gay jew shit and so are you. Kill yourself.

Nice data mining thread faggot, Paganism is gay. We are hardcore Christian National Socialist here and you should leave before you read something too extreme for your little brain here.

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OH NO NO NO NO

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Do you know the etymology of the word "kike"? You should, since you are one.

Zionists aren't Christians, just as neocohens aren't right-wing.

This.
The alt-right is a honey pot.

The alt-right is our fan club and OP is a faggot. A newfag and a faggot in general.

stop

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stop

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Go back to reddit, cuck. We're NatSocs here.

Whatever. Fuck communists and other retards pretending to be bagan.

The alt-kike should stay christfags. All the fakers and casual niggers should stick to christcuckery, the decent people should stick to one of the better, less perfect philosophies, and only the SS should be Odinist. Look at Odinia.org to find out more, but you will never be allowed in if you're alt-kike or any detectable foreigner.

First of all, we are not the alt-right, we are the far right, the alt-right are a bunch of retarded fags, kike shills, controlled opposition, and FBI agents.

But given that you are talking about us: why not all three?
we aren't really about religion, we are about things that matter:
race, territory, culture, etc.
If you are opposed to white genocide and support white nationalism, if you recognize the jewish problem and the final solution to it, if you support traditionalism and pride in your european culture and heritage, etc.
Then who gives a shit about your religious orientation? atheists, christians, pagans, all three have contributed to our people and our cause, all three have a bluepilled majority in our countries, but we aren't talking about them, the people we talk about here have already proven their enlightenment, and finally, religion should be a personal thing anyway, so long as you aren't a muslim or a jew, any spiritual path you choose to take is not going to interfere with the movement or cause problems for the empire we seek to build.

TL;DR fuck off D&C kike, the Atheists + Christians + Pagans on the Far-Right are BFFs, stop trying so goddamn hard to turn us against each other.

Alt-Right is COINTELPRO. Modern Christianity is jewish. Satanism is jewish, Atheism is jewish. This is also a really obvious D&C thread. Look how full of shit OP is jumping from Paganism to Satanism. Satanism is completely made up. It's inverted worship of Saturn mixed with an inverted worship of Lucifer (Venus) and a pop culture version of the kikes' own blood rituals and sacrifice. The entire thing is a psyop so they can scoff at anyone exposing their own crimes. Also Jesus is Horus, blah blah blah kikes steal everything.

Regardless of what you believe Europe has been entirely shaped and molded by Christianity, Hellenic philosophy and Germanic attitudes of 'honour' and 'freedom (the latter two were somewhat intertwined with 'paganism' but have near nothing to do with it anymore). Anyone stating otherwise is a fool.

Stick with 'Christianity' because Christianity has already incorporated many European ideas which have been codified into the core beliefs. Whether they were always there or just added by later Europeans is near irrelevant. Obviously reject the anti-Christian and anti-European teachings of the Vatican 2 and certain jewish 'televangelist' sorts, but the 'older' form of Christianity is basically the European identity. To try to become an 'atheist' today would mean rejecting what formed our worldview, and the worldview of our ancestors for over 2,000 years. Paganism too has an over-obsession with rejecting Christianity which would make it completely alien to our people and our sensibilities.

Shit isnt complicated. Let people pray how they want but tax them like every other place. Im a christian but even I believe these places should be taxed. One reason I say tax them is because in my town its nothing but churches. Every couple blocks there is a church. So much in fact that I and many others are suspecting that a decent amount are using them as ways to gain money without working. Hold a service, read from a book, collect donations, go home. Its pretty sickening. But I dont believe people should be forced to not believe in something. The only one I dont want anyone near is islam. That thing does more damage than any other religion.

>implying Zig Forums is even remotely (((alt kike)))

Remember anons;
Report D&C threads.
Sage D&C threads.
Filter D&C threads.

Remember anons;
Report slide threads.
Sage slide threads.
Filter slide threads.

(((you))) don't belong here Moshe.
Go back to training you're fucking shit at it.
jew is a new as fuck word. It NEVER appears in the bible, not once. All versions with it supposedly in them were modified intentionally for that goal.

anons see;

WE

Atheism is the truth.
There is no god, and morality is a spook

If I had my way, I'd overthrow the pope, reform the church from self-destruction to rag-headsplitting, and try to heal the schisms.

The last one is probably impossible, but I think it'd be the easiest way to uncuck our culture.

Something a jew would say.

all the context of any of those bible quotes is referring towards Pharisees, not jews as a race

St. Paul goes on against jews as a whole, as they've taken a stance against Christianity and all of mankind.

Pharisees, sadducees, levites, rich jews, swindlings jews, warmongering jews, and fanatics all had their asses handed to them by Christ. There's no excuse to practice baby torture anymore. No excuse to be jewish. In addition to that, the first covenant was fulfilled, attempts at following it (impossible after Christ's death and subsequent destruction of the temple) are sin, in Catholic tradition mortal sin.

First, Volkism + Veneration of past heroes of the Volk + Reconstructed White European Polytheism (Odinism and Greek Paganism are the best preserved) that contains as central doctrine "WHITES ONLY" + Veneration of the cultivation of human greatness within the Volk + emphasis on positivity + morality as philosophy rather than "muh magic book's rules" (IE, morality is very important, but it is a product of logic, reason, philosophy, and the moral sense (culture and genetics) rather than "sky spirit doctrine").
White people need a White religion for Whites and only Whites. (Or multiple religions)
Religion can be a very powerful organizer and motivator. It could be a powerful force for opposing White genocide and encouraging the development of human greatness within Whites, rather than the force for "trust in "god's" plan and let everything go to utter shit" that it is right now.
Second, "satanism" is abrahamic, not White, and roughly the form of "inverted christianity." It is bullshit.
Third, the "altright" is a silly label that doesn't actually mean much of anything.


Pretty much this, though.
If White Christians will work to oppose ZOG and towards the reestablishment of White homelands, then fantastic.


Also pretty much this.


Hmmmmm
Seems like a better plan would be to emphasize #2 and #3, while deemphasizing #1. Which is what Hitler was trying to do, more or less.


The term "jew" may be a modern invention, but it is a translation from something and refers to something. You know what is meant by it.
"Hebrew, israelite, talmudist, torahist, 12 tribes, people of abraham," or whatever term/ phrase/ word one wants to use for them is irrelevant.
It refers to "the people who wrote the old testament, were most of the characters in the new testament, and who are today referred to as jews."
They also cause a large portion of the world's suffering. That is what their "talmud" tells them to do, after all. They call all non-jews "goyim," after all. "Goyim," aka "soulless man shaped animal whose only purpose is to be a slave to the jews."
To hell with that.


Only if by "culture" you mean Volk.
White countries for White people and only White people and no jews.
Anything that leads to "non-Whites still get to be in White countries" is not an improvement. Slow White genocide via "diversity," "multicult," and racemixing is still White genocide.
Separation.


OR we (White people) could stop following the desert cults of "jews/ hebrews/ isrealites/ abrahamists/ whatever" and instead recreate WHITE religions that are specifically by, of, and for Whites.
Furthermore, the whole idea "of all mankind" is itself pure poison. "Humans" are not "all one people," nor should we be. What we need is separation into racial and ethnic homelands, not "all are one under Jesus."

Hinduism. If you want something occidental you ignore the larpers and become a pagan anyway.

good goy

Jeezus christ there are a lot of buttblasted shills that DO NOT like this thread, or any form of non-religious (ethno)nationalism from the looks of it.
Oh no, kikes would welcome well-deserved criticism of Christian ethos. We tried your way for 2 thousand years, you cucks. Time's up.

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"They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father."
"Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. You do the deeds of your father. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.”'''

Is this supposed to be comedy? Here's the only thing you should do OP:
LURKMOAR (TWO YEARS MINIMUM).

Christianity is a European religion.

Shit's about to get real, and we need people who are willing to die for the cause. Only religious zealots can be forged into such warriors. The dopamine-adled, self-indulgent hedonists and atheist nihilists are chaff. Nobody dies for Odin. Jesus died for you.

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Totally, bro. Good luck in the coming war, but only Christians are allowed in my bunker. I don't trust people who aren't willing to choose death over betrayal.

To kill europeans instead of mudslimes.

he doesn't even know the history of his own fucking religion

The holy land was far more important then Iberia.
this is what they believe
totes a European religion tho

If you can't be bothered to pick up a book, try the "realcrusadeshistory" channel on JooTube.

>Christianity was not at all important in the reconquest of Iberia and expulsion of (((subversives)))
Goodgoy atheist is a good goy.

Nice try, rabbi, Zig Forums isn't alt-kike.

Not really. There was a white upper class that ruled over swarms of semites and asiatics.
You mean the thing that was required to root out the people that you allowed to convert?

Overall Christianity aligns more so with basically all of the right side of the spectrum , especially the dissident right

VERY GOOD GOY
>thinks that the conversos of the 15th century caused the Inquisition of the 12th century
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE IS PROOF THAT YOU'RE WINNING

Agree. Fuck Christianity.

I was talking about Iberia specifically,(which started especially after the Reconquista) but whatever.
If you think the entire middle east was white, I really don't know what to tell you.

The alt-kike is going to be treated like the SA and true believers in National Socialism are going to act as the SS, as in we are going to take it down when we have the chance to do so because they only cause division among people and ruin the image of the right wing.
The orthodox form of Christianity should be encouraged over what it has become now, Paganism is fine, and atheism is for faggots but it's still better than believing in the way of the kike. We should save all this religious infighting for after we have secured our countries and locked down our borders from the jewish menace and their subhuman puppets who follow them. As long as it isn't judaism or judaism under a different name then it should be fine, people who want to fight over religion are just stirring up shit and trying to cause a shitshow to happen so they can laugh at it.

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It is simple. If whatever they believe conflicts with the goal of making white nations fully white again, those beliefs must be crushed, and those holding them disempowered or destroyed. If whatever they believe does not cause an issue, then you don't bother to fight them.

In short: only pro-white christianity, pro-white paganism, and pro-white atheism is allowed. This is what Adolf Hitler did in National Socialist Germany.

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Edgy. Do you think that if your great-great-great grandfathers were alive to hear you say that, they would not feel the compulsion to beat the shit out of you?

If you think that populations stay stagnant, I really don't know what to tell you.

Atheism is indeed for faggots but the Middle East had completely different demographics 2000 years ago than today. Many North Africans and Saudis for example have significant negroid admixture.

I'm sure Leon Trotsky would agree with you right there, Siegwulf!

SHALOM, FELLOW NATIONALIST!


My friend, your statement about conversos was just chronologically incorrect. There is no context in which what you said made any sense, just admit you were wrong and accept Jesus Christ as your savior.
Never said that, but it was dominant white culture for centuries. We don't know exactly how many whites were there because such records did not survive the Islamic conquest and replacement of the peoples and culture.


Glad we can agree on these things, user.

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God helps those who helps themselves. Praying isn't going to save our race.

F.O.A.D.

stance should be anti-chr*stcuck, pro-pagan, neutral to atheism. why?

Nope. The fake converts, conversos, were a reaction to the Inquisition. The Reconquista was a multigenerational military campaign against the Moors. You're confusing the two. I'm not going to respond to you anymore because you're being defensively ignorant at this point.

Can I ask you "pagans" something? What have you collectively actually done to benefit the white race in this or last century? There are Christians suing the SPLC, Christian leader Viktor Orban is demanding a halt o immigration to Hungary and names Soros, Christians are actively protesting in the streets of the US, and yet, where are all of these noble pagan warriors?

You really must be so delusional to think that you are this noble Nordic werewolf on the slaughter of Christ's flock (while not doing anything against the jewish merchant and tax collector). I have to laugh. You aren't some strong Aryan werewolf, you're a larping faggot behind a screen who has never and will never take part in any form of pro-white activism beyond posting on a blog or an imageboard or downvoting a youtube video like the cucked coward you are.

You are angry that your ancestors gave up the false satanic "religions" centuries to over a millennium ago, and you're angry that you'll never know what perverse nonsense was within those satanic religions, as your later Christian ancestors threw it in the fire where it belonged and they knew it.

Come to Christ if you seek true spirituality, user.

The alt-right's stance on religion should be "white is right". All attempts to divide white people along lines of "muh Christianity", "muh Odin", etc. are kike divide & conquer techniques. Put your race first and don't divide from your white brothers based on to whom you do or don't pray.

Noble and based.
Who, the Charlottesville scum? Or the based black men of Patriot Prayer?

this is the only correct answer.
dirty desert yids have mindfucked white europeans into believing Aryan is a Jewish word instead of Hindu.

There is no "alt right."
It was a meme made up by a kike, to tar all those that don't go along with the Jew agenda with the same brush.

Now plz leave

go back to leftypol

Do you feel strong by attacking the flock after the shepherd (real Christian leaders) has been shot by the merchant? Do you think your ancestors from your father down to your forefathers of 1000 years ago would be proud of you for attacking the faith that so many of them fought and died for? Do you think they would not want to kill you themselves when they hear of your blasphemy?

This might work on your board full of civcuck weirdos, but not here.
>>>Zig Forums

Exposing another failure of Christianity, it purosely divides our people to the point where they've murdered each other.
As you are attempting to do now.

Get out.

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i don't see you giving up our numerical system thats from india

The Alt-Kike's stance should be in the oven

Isn't it amazing that the Indian numerical system alone has contributed more to White culture and progress than Christianity has?

go back to using runes snownigger

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You're a neutered poodle, Siegwulf. Your ancestors who were Christian shepherds finally gathered enough forces to corner the werewolves that were reigning unprovoked terror on Christ's flock, and so the shepherds did not merely kill the wolves, they rounded them up, they castrated them, they defanged them and filed down the rest of their teeth for good measure. They declawed them. They destroyed their sorcery and turned that false satanic "religion" cloaking itself as "paganism" into a mockery of its former self, never to rise again, never to be a threat again to Christian Europe. The proud northern werewolf was now an emasculated shadow of its former self, never pretending to be anything of power until the 20th century when the kikes began their War on Christianity in earnest.

There you go, Siegwulf. That's your paganism. And never forget, you're not a werewolf, our Christian forefathers made them extinct. No, you are, ultimately, a neutered poodle.

One common thread that ties them all together is "White"-culture.

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Considering the real threat has always been outside our borders, I'm not sure that bragging about neutering and crippling European aggressiveness is a good thing.

I don't drink bleach instead of water . I also don't do things by consulting with a Jewish comic character, I do them by doing them. Falling for the oldest jew psyop in the book is announcing to the world that you have a below average IQ. If the zero arguments and zero evidence of this FAITH system aren't enough to prove there is nothing to this gay debunked bullshit, then fuck it murder isn't a crime anymore because if you don't let me murder you you are Satan! Ironically the heros against evil are the people who fight against this retarded thinking that only justifies being a passive cuck, child rape, theft, control freak failure psycho boomer parenting, and disregard for the laws of reality. One million fedoras being annoying doesn't change the laws of reality. Everyone still pushing this shit is a criminal because they know it's bullshit but they like controlling others. Similar to the way rapists rape because they like control. Greater good? Yeah cool. Treat others the way you want to be treated? Great? Mountains are moved by equipment and human planning, not by your schizophrenia. Why the fuck would we waste time on anything else if magical Jew could just build us anything? If you can't find your own purpose for living after the thousands of hours of books movies music and games you've consumed you are a genetic dead end and should probably kill yourself.

Atheism is the future of the white race, prove me wrong

;^)

Oh no, whatever will we do without the Jew-controlled alt-right?

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Only Americans care about Christianity the most, which is ironic since the vast majority of them fail even the most basic aspect of it, circumcision of the actual penis.

I don't hate Christians, as long as they're white, but I will point out that Christ taught you how to be a victim.
Pagans have never left, they simply lost followers, temporarily.
As they grow numerous again, they won't harm white Christians, nor see them as anything but brothers, engaged in the same life-or-death struggle against the Jew as the Pagans are.

But we don't have any charismatic leader telling us to "forgive our enemies" or "turn the other cheek."
And we don't have to allow non-whites into our faith, as they could never BE part of the old European faith anyway, not being European.

I'll fight to save the white race, as I'm sure you will. But I don't have to go against my faith's teachings in order to do it.

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Spirituality is a personal and private thing. White advocacy should be focused on just that. The more specific the requirements for your group the more people you lose, and we are not at a surplus right now. This is why White Nationalism is harder in America than say Poland where everyone is Christian.

Uh, what the ever living fuck? Who writes like this? Who gloats like this? This is deranged and comes from a completely sick mind.

Can a white man even type this shit up? I can imagine a jew spewing this shit, I mean it's practically salivating in the destruction of European culture, but a white?

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Sad! Many such cases.

Christianity is unequivocally Patriarchal. It's one of the issues the bible is crystal clear on.
Jews, as effeminate parasites are matriarchal. Blacks are also matriarchal.

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A frantic and desperate Jew that see's his d&c crap failing, and so resorts to personal attacks.

No more brother wars, we have Jews that need extinguished.

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ATHEISM is THE END GOAL OF THE WHITE RACE


ATHEISTS BREED MORE
ATHEISTS ARE MORE INTELLIGENT
ATHEISTS ARE HAPPIER
ATHEISTS ARENT RESTICTED BY SHIT MORALITY.

SAM HARRIS, AND RICARD DAWKINS HAS DONE MORE FOR THE NATIONALISTS MOVEMENT THAN ANY JEW WORSHIPING MIND RAPIST

Pick one