Is China NatSoc?

A genuine question that's been on my mind lately, I brought it up in another thread but I think the question deserves its own thread as I'm really interested to see what the rest of Zig Forums thinks about this.

From my observations of what constitutes the fundamentals of a NatSoc country, I'm frequently reminded of how China is run by its government. I know China is officially "Communist" or simply "Socialist" but I think we all know by now that China has abandoned Communism in everything but name since Deng Xiaoping opened the country up with economic reforms. Bear with me here but take a look at China and consider for yourself how it compares with a NatSoc country.


How does this not sound like a NatSoc's ideal country? I honestly think we have a lot to learn from the Chinese in building a White society that is effective and proud. Let me know your thoughts on this topic.

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I hope (((they))) have paid you well.

I'm not here to challenge or insult Zig Forums, neither am I here to promote China, I'm simply curious of the opinion of Zig Forums readers on this subject

No.

China is nationalist, but not socialist.

Why do you not consider them to be socialist?

Only major nation to both ban rap music and have forced reeducational pork eating camps for mudslides, so more so than anyone else right now

No respect for beauty and the natural world sage.

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5 Shekel have been deducted from the next Antifa party bill

You could say ants are national socialist by this same logic.

Please expand upon your posts instead of just making one-liners with a sage, that's quite reddit-tier tbh

Someone post the the Tiananmen Square 1989 stuff.

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Just FYI, Chinese citizenship is available to whites, but so far only one couple, a South African family chose to immigrate:
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Probably just to avoid the mess South Africa has become.

But China is closest to pure capitalism and meritocracy than any other country. No inflated salaries for bitchy alt-left athletes, actors, rappers, etc. Knowledge workers get more pay and respect, with their own cheerleaders:

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Better cheering knowledge workers who will advance technology innovation for the economy than glorified unionized athletes whose only contribution is to play kids’ games really well.

China hates white people and the Chinese are jealous af, hence made-up "victories" and supposedly 5000 years of history - more like 2000 actually. That's all you need to know. You could make a point that Taiwan, SK or Japan are models for nationalistic societies, but China is a potemkin village posing as a superpower

Get this garbage outta here you fucking kike. China has been sucking the west dry for centuries now and they are nothing but jewish henchmen, even if they had "natsoc" characteristics, this is no virtue. I DONT WANT A GLOBAL TRIUMPH OF NATIONALISM, I WANT A *WESTERN* TRIUMPH OF NATIONALISM. Fuck outta here stupid chink, go eat some dogs you fucking slit eyed devils.

Could use some of that here to get MS13, crips, bloods, etc under control but BLM would never allow it.
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Go ahead, post Tiananmen Square, post Occupy HK, post Cultural Revolution. I'm not an agent of the Chinese government and I'm not here to promote China or gloss over it's troubles.


And don't white NatSocs take a dim view of non-whites also?


Ease up Trump, I'm just asking to compare how China is run with how a NatSoc country could be run for white people. If we took China's system and made it apply to white people in a white country, surely that would be in agreement with most Zig Forums readers here?

They do not meet Hitler's definition of the socialism aspect of NatSoc - the science of fostering the well-being of your folk.

The Chinese Government is incredibly incompetent and really doesn't care about how fucked up a lot of China is and makes a low effort to do any better. Government officials are "traditionally conservative" and driven largely by greed and fear, rather than a desire to create a happy, healthy, sustainable future for their people.

whether or not they are at least there will still be a chinese race in twenty years

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In a country of over a billion people that’s only in recent decades dragged itself out of Africa-tier poverty and become a global power to be reckoned with, don’t you think that it’s fair that they’ve had to make compromises along the way for the sake of economic growth and national security?

Would you rather live in Japan or China? An advanced economy mindful of its disctinct identity, or a country with 200 million middleclass+ people yoked to a billion+ dirt poor underclass which systematically destroyed its cultural heritage during the maoist era? One just has to compare Taiwan and China to realize the huge cultural loss that was communist rule. The Chinese are prone to this kind of garbage governement, and it is the reason it has never been able to rise like the West despite better natural conditions, and that is why it will never amount to anything but a technology thief and a giant with feet of clay.

Some of what you said is inaccurate. Family is a more important concept in Chinese culture than in any Western culture. As for work ethic, the Chinese work harder than anyone. While people believe many menial jobs to be beneath them even when they don’t have the skills to deserve any better, often we’ll just sit at home soaking up welfare and playing the victim of being born into a economically successful and developed first world country. The Chinese understand that even scrubbing a god damn toilet is somehow serving the greater purpose of their nation.

Wake up, family is broken in China. Single child policy made people arrogant and entitled. Divorce rates are skyrocketing. China as a better family model is a meme that has to go.

Maybe not every policy that China enacts is perfect but my central point is that, if we take their system and apply it to white people in a white country, surely it would serve us better than the lie of liberal democracy that we currently have?

Also, if the Chinese worked harder than anyone, their productivity per capita should reflect that. But it doesn't, despite heavy investment in capital. You just have to actually go to commerical areas : 7-8 people manning the shop to do the work of 1 or 2 in the West.

I'm on it!

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Then why aren't you looking at Japan or SK then? And there was nothing wrong with the government of the founding fathers to the USA or the British Parliament and its system when they were created and led to anglo supremacy. Only in fairly recent times did it go awry.

I’m not Chinese nor an agent of their government. Post about everything the Chinese government ever did wrong, I don’t care.

I’m presenting a hypothetical scenario where we can choose to implement China’s system to a white country but of course that would give us the freedom to pick and choose what we want, for example the One Child Policy and Hukou was/are very specific to China and it’s unique population problems, white countries don’t have such problems so we have no need for such policies.

Japan and SK are valid examples but I feel that China hits both the National and Socialist aspects a bit harder than Japan or SK who largely folllow Western systems of government and are subservient to America.

While our systems have traditionally worked well, our (((enemies))) have learned how to abuse our system against us. That’s why I believe we’re due a rethink of how we run our own countries.

The problem with trying to imitate the style of an Asian society is the lack of innovation it will push for. The idea is conformity, but that creates nothing but near identical automatons who all think the same way, that can only copy, not innovate. A huge set back to this is the fact that even among their own, people in their own groups do not look the same, act the same, think the same, etc. But this is for the best, there's a reason why well over the majority of the world's inventions were won by us, or why we were the colonizers of the world.

You commie cucks can't even stomach to type national socialism when shilling your bullshit. Did he hurt you THAT badly?

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I don't think our system is bad. I think it has been denatured beyond recognition. One has to read Tocqueville to realize how good early Americans had it. Not to mention slavery was the thing so niggers remained niggers. What now? Do you call *that* a democracy? Trump was elected but he constantly has to fight for everything because (((they))) control the media and the deep state. We need to go back to good old america. No need for a fucking dictatorship, this is not the american way. we want a governement of free armed citizens

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I think this deranged imbecile has been attending one too many of his universities (((Chinese Cultural Immersion))) programs-compulsory membership for all Chinese foreign students in the US-, just one more tactic and tacit reminder that uninhibited joint cooperation will never be unencumbered when dealing with the yellow virus.

China doesn't give a solitary fuck about its citizens. Life is very cheap there; who gives a fuck if a chink meets his untimely death, there's a billion more where he came from. The smog in the cities is now so bad it'll take 10 years off your life to breath it in.

The Chinese State also went about actively destroying Chinese history and culture during the Revolutionary purges of the 60's and 70's. The Shaolin schools were raided and closed, and were only recently re-opened once commies realised they could use them to channel nationalism. Many cultural traditions in the south are currently being suppressed, and even their language is now under threat from chinese zerg mentality.

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Thank you for your insightful responses, this is the kind of discussion I was looking for and as ever, fullchan doesn’t let me down.

Most of these are the good parts of the Chinese system, ignoring the countless negative characteristics of it. However, I have understood that you only want to emulate some of their good policies, which is something doable, if not unoriginal in our history.
Some quick corrections to your points

I don’t think it’s the government itself that has a policy to disencourage this (although they do avoid immigration, which reduces racemixing), it’s simply that their own society has a very strong bias against it.

This is the great problem with the PRC, they actively erode the actual historical Chinese culture (traditional Chinese religion, buddhist culture, imperial and democratic China) in order to build their own anachronistic interpretation based on the values of chairman mao. They have already effectively replaced the values of the populace with the cultural revolution, as can be noted by the difference in education between the old, middle aged and young people (somehow the people that got affected by the cultural revolution are some of the most ignorant on the planet).
So, no. China is not nationalist, if anything, it’s antinationalist, considering that they actively replace the culture of the people with their own ideologically modulated one.

Basically, loving your people is Hitler.
And they're not wrong!

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No, China's peasants are enslaved under a form of communism, while their elite is enslaved under capitalism. To become the world biggest outsourced slave market China had to sell out to the Jews and is been controlled by them ever since.

Forgot something…what you call NatSoc is only based on Israel demanding China to maintain a fully functional army. You cannot have a real army with degenerate behavior like race mixing, female empowerment, open homosexuality and other left wing nonsense. That's why China and Russia will always steer as national pure as possible…as to be loyal attack dogs for the Jewish cartel that runs this planet.

OP if you are not a shill you have to learn one thing about communist:

They are constantly trying to demoralize and shit on the people they want to subjugate, drag their culture into the mud and try to make their live as miserable as possible.
All of this is done to get the revolution that their prophet Marx promised them and that they think will lead them into an eternal utopia.
Once the communist managed to get into power through black mail and terror, the people they previously shat on will be declared the best people in the world, their culture will be called the cradle of civilization and folk heroes from ages gone by will be identified as forerunners of communism.
All of this is done to hide the fact that living under communism is a miserable hell and it never gets better.

It's a communist government with a market economy. That's what keeps it from becoming a fascist state run by bankers like the country still marketed as "the leader of the free world".

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Oh that's for sure and I'm not advocating for Communism, rather admiring the better aspects of the Chinese government and seeing what there is for us to learn from. To say that China's system of government has no value would be naive.

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chinese dont care about other chinese. so no. they would sell eachother out for a dollar. the street vendors get oil from the sewer, people see a dead/injured kid in the road and just keep moving, their government forces them to abort healthy children, they dont fix, repair, maintain, or invent for themselves. they dont value their own culture.

they hold NONE of the values required for a functioning natsoc population. like a democracy in a non-homogynous community; its not really democracy.

i 100% agree.
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Reported.

I'll have you sent to the gulags m8

Even though it would be more profitable to adopt a weak, limp dick "que sera sera" or muh Darwinism attitude and allow these corporations to spew nonsense to Chinese citizens, China refuses to allow depravity into their country.

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Now go to /r9k/ and you see that capitalism creates the same, at which point you should understand that all those political orientations are the same and only there to protect the rich from the revolt of peasants.

Because the peasants have to be content to slave for the west, and their military has to be ready to go at all times. That is the price to pay for China's allowed economical growth. A growth that makes China's elite rich and helps them to enforce more control over their slaves.

So they're perfectly fine with thieves, just not ones with their own opinions. kek

How tragic. The workers should rise up against their own kind and put jews in charge like America did amirite?

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Only if it challenges their control. Otherwise it's free range faggotry.

All Google, Facebook, Twitter and the New York Times do all day is defend thieves and killers. Thieves who download anime > bankers.

Commies only see numbers since they are a biological AI. Not even animals.

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It's a shame that this is the FBI's primary concern/responsibility. Miss your old job, Comey?

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OP is a nigger - Mao destroyed all China's history, all they have left is his little red book.

/r9k/ is a product of cultural marxism, not capitalism. The West wants straight white males to be ashamed of being straight white males, and thus you have emasculated, directionless and forgotten groups of men. The State has actively taken away every opportunity afforded to previous generations, while throwing every distraction and indoctrination they can. And only rich people are able to buy their way out of this handicap.

Those Jews are in charge. How do you think China became the main manufacturing colossus for the west? Do you think that's a coincidence that all the major players of capitalism outsource their productions to cheap ass China? Also who do you think owns "The People’s Bank of China" ?

That's right, maybe it would be better to drop to term capitalism altogether, since it does not represent what it once stood for.

No, they're hiveminded bugmen nationalists.

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They most definitely are not. That's why you don't see Asians with no legs in China panhandling in the streets after deployments to defend Israel's security.

China's civilians might as well don't exist for Israel, outside of a number written on a contract. They are sold and governed like cattle. It's the Chinese elite who is the pockets of Jewish banking, and as long as the money is raining in, this won't change. Also China could never rebel because a) their citizens would rebel once the factories close and b) Israel also controls Russia and the US.

That's pretty nuts. You probably think jews helped fake the moon landing and flattened the earth to bring down Russia which they also control so they didn't need to fake anything or change the shape of the earth but they did because jews control everything.

eat shit and die you communist piece of shit ant
absolutely nothing about china is natsoc they prey on their people harvesting their organs for rich jews the complete opposite of natsoc volk protectionism
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lol.

that's all you got? "lol"? where the fuck do you think you are ant man? this isn't kikebook twatter or plebbit
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Who do you think was behind the deal to outsource the manufacturing industry to China? Why is China the main manufacture for electronics? Do you think some China salesman knocked on Bill Gates door and ask him to mass produce from China? Just stop with the conspiracy accusations, grab a book and research the spread of the Rothschild clan. They don't just own the banks, they control the money, and they have a stake in everything. It's literally organized crime pulling rackets and schemes on global scale.

Do yourself a favor and make a little game out of it. Look for large scale economical crimes, find the motive and link it to the banking cartel and you'll soon have one hell of a revelation.

You don't know much about China if you think that. The modern Chinese government is very, very nationalistic. Chinese culture is everywhere in China.

It was some kosher dumbasses who thought they would get political power in exchange for the manufacturing and start dumping niggers into China eventually. China took the IP and told them to keep the niggers. That's why we are where we are.

True. The Chinese are not Europeans, they're Chinese. The Chinese mindset is that individuals must make sacrifices for the benefit of the state.

Sure. If you like.

True. The Chinese government uses demographic warfare to accomplish its will. Other nations did this as well, including but by no means limited to Germany.

Also true. The Chinese do not allow unbridled capitalism to control their society. Not such a bad idea when you consider the massive hordes of shitskins that Walmart and industrial chicken arming imports.

True. Very true. Again, demographic warfare. France and the Dutch did this as well. Tunisia was once all Arab but the French flooded the place with French and made it better. Sadly they abandoned it when they allowed the kikes to make the French hate themselves.

Again, China is not European, they're Chinese. They have over a billion people so they believe that they might as well play their cards according to their strengths.
And that 50 cent army defeated the Americans in the Korean war.

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That's a good question, user. Why don't you enlighten us as to who owns the People's Bank of China.
Last time I checked, it was the Chinese, not a private shareholder corporation owned by jews like the Federal Reserve.

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…and what culture is that, prey tell? Mao destroyed their culture and history, dipshit.

OP, why are you expecting to be told truth in this CIAnigger circlejerk of a board? They have an agenda to push and they are pushing it. If I were you I would take every comments here, take their negatives and search my answers from there.


kek. America will be a slave without its master in your lifetime.

Anyone can make up stuff and put it on an image. But men need actual evidence, not baseless claims

Again, try going to China. It reeks of Chinese culture and tradition. They're fiercely nationalistic and very ethnocentric. They are more Chinese today than Germany is German.

It reeks of corporate bugman hivemind bullshit and mass-produced garbage. No culture at all, maybe just a few remnants of what was remembered by the elderly mixed into a bugman shit soup of consumerism.

But what about based Kanye West? I knew civic nationalism was the only way to go!

China doesn’t hate white people. Look at the hordes of Chinese women there rushing to spread their legs for white men.

wtf, i love jews now. NS = bug men.

You are a good man. I can tell. Thank you. You’re very kind. Let me shake your hand, sir.

You clearly have never been to China.