2nd Reich - Otto von Bismarck

We see 3rd reich all the times, let's have some threads for the 2nd Reich, especially for Otto von Bismarck:
His pros & cons:
Pros:
- industrialist: he worked with large industries leaders to industrialize Germany
- anti-Catholic/christian: he specifically demanded that Germany was free of the Church influence, especially from the Pope
- anti-socialist: he famously drafted anti-socialist laws that would arrest and jail any socialist or socialist agitators, but it was rebuked by Wilheim II and Partliament
- anti-liberal: He is anti-modernist and wants to keep the tradionitionalist social status and nobility
- pro-tariff: he famously broke with his old party, National Liberal, to support tariffs in order to protect Germany's industry
- realpolitik: most famous of all, he would leave any party in order to attain his political goal and would play party against each other so he can win and apply his policies
- careful foreign policy: he avoided policies that piss off his neighbors and avoided imperalism in favor of maintaing peace in the region (WW1 only happened 10 years after his death).

Cons:
- emanicipation clause: he gives every religious persons full rights to germans, including jews
- working with alternative Rothschild bank: he distanced himself from the Rothschild (who controls Austria at the time), but he worked with an alternative Rothschild bank i.e. Bleichroder in order to get private fundings for the Unification of Germany: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerson_von_Bleichröder

Neutral:
- anti-polish: The man for some reasons hated the poles, it is unsure if it's tied with his anti-semitism since Poland was full of kikes in his era, and if he has reigned, he would have deported all poles from Poland and germanized the place.

Bismarck was also the last German leader that leads the German nation to winning wars.

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He was Hitler hero. It's a shame that he could not be there to help Hitler or he probably would have been able to avoid WW2.

Bismarck could have avoided WW1 and that would be another timeline.

True. God that was a destructive tragedy.

Unfortunately, one side effect of the fact that Hellmuth von Moltke and Bismarck were so successful was that Germany in general became so successful and powerful. Jena and Sedan scared the shit out of the powers that be, and the incredible success of the new, industrialized German nation put Britain on its traditional footing of needing to restore the balance of power on the continent to preserve its empire. Britain and France putting aside centuries of enmity was less the product of some random Fashoda crisis than Britain reverting to its traditional policy of ganging up with second rate continental powers to stop first rate continental powers from becoming hegemonic. Naturally, this board's response would be "fuck Britain, they should've just let Germany do its thing," for both world wars, but that's simply unacceptable from a British standpoint, hence why they did what they did. Of course, WWII ironically led to Britain losing, rather than preserving, its empire, and they sure as shit didn't "save" Poland, but that of course was just an excuse for Churchill's war.

Fuck me, Battle of Königgrätz, not fucking Jena-Auerstedt from the Napoleonic Wars.

It was somewhat inevitable though. The continent was a mess of pacts and treaties.

Well the British had no choice really.
Every time someone has united a large chunk of Europe they've invaded/attacked Britain. It's essentially a law of nature at this point.
So we for us a disunited Europe is essential to our national security.
It's why we've been so opposed to an EU military because we know it'll be used to invade Britain.

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This is the dumbed down version that your 10th grade jewish history teacher feeds to his goyim students. I heard this exact statement from about five different history classes growing up. It doesn't reflect the reality that messes of treaties, interconnected ruling classes, etc. is nothing to new Europe or the world at large, but, world war, was something very new. It's basically a meaningless statement meant to detract from the real culprit of Britain's aggression towards Germany and the jewish desire to see Europe torn to pieces.

Jewish desire?
Its the desire shared by all us Bongs.
Because the continentals are always a threat. They hate us and want to force us to live like them.
Every night they go to sleep and dream of conquering Britain and destroying our society and history. It's an obsession to the continental, they just can't comprehend people not living like them.

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That’s not a pro.

Anything that hurts papists is inherently good.

Maybe the British Isles ought to be moved somewhere else.

It demonstrably was. The Catholics were opponents of Hitler's when his time came around.

If only he saw Germany today…

We've been saying that for ages. Due to our proximity to Europe people keep getting this silly idea that we're Europeans.
And of course the Europeans just can't keep their rapacious urges in check and so keep trying to conquer us.

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We really should switch the British isles with the Japanese ones.
With their backstabbing nature and perpetual two-facedness the Brits would fit into the Orient just fine.


Go be a Christcuck somewhere else, no nation must ever allow parallel loyalties in their citizens.

brits niggers confirmed

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The main problem with him was that he was completely irreplaceable and he didn't nurture a successor. Yeah he could walk a tightrope between the Brits, the French, Italians and Russians and have the complete trust of the Kaiser.
But the minute he was replaced by the incompetent Wilhelm II with even more incompetent successors everything fell completely apart.

German over engineering shit as always.

>>>/britpol/

>haha (((we))) brits really do want exactly what kikes want lol
get ovened moishe

The problem with Germans is that they're simple minded. Their governments reflect this, typically being the result of someone with a bit of knack for it sweeping in and reforming everything.
But since few of em could ever be called bastards they don't really bother spreading power out, they make it so too much is focused on one point of failure.

But the bongs? We're all bastards and we all hate each other to some extent or another.
So we build our governing structure to divvy up power and keep those with it at each others throats.

"I hate Krauts who disagree with me but i hate other people even more."
t.Otto von Bismarck

He built the first welfare state

Do any europeans, excluding the poles ofc, like poles?

I hate to go full leftypol on you but the welfare state doesnt really have anything to do with socialism.

An 1889 recording

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A lot of countries hated poles…
At least from what I heard.

1st Reich swag coming through

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UK seems fairly tolerant of them so long as they're in Poland.
Probably because they've never tried to invade us. Unlike the rest of the continent.

The eternal Anglo must be stopped before he ruins Europe again. There is nothing else there worth invading for.

There is no such thing as England silly user, it's called unclaimed Germanic territory

This much is true. No White European in early 1900s (besides Hitler) would have believed the mess we are in right now is even possible.

Niggers, muds, asians, non-whites, flooding in every Western European country. People having no trust in future, those with the little hope being jailed for (((hate speech))).

Those who say Hitler "stained nationalism" have to remember the very same cultural marxists were already on the way to destroying our societies. Hitler tried to fight the jew, he sent the (((frankfurt school))) away from his nation.

If there was no Hitler, dissidents wouldn't be called "nazis" right now, but the concept of "racism" and whites being blamed for everything would still have happened. The same jew would still be insulting us Whites with other slurs.

sorry for offtopic

das Reich mane

The British Isles would seem to be the last holdout of Celtic blood in Europe - and the English themselves possess Germanic Saxon blood.

In order to preserve the celtic peoples the United Kingdom must be disbanded, Anglos are more germanic than anything and they have an irrational hatred for the celts.
They should just create something like a celtic federation including Bretagne and Galicia

Yeah, about that.

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