Next stock market crash about to happen?

Next stock market crash about to happen?

Is this just another small downturn based on trade war news, arab relation uncertaintiy and (((federal reserve))) interest rate hike or is another crash around the corner?

Collateralized Debt Obligation (CDOs) are apparently the next big concern when it comes to another repackaged debt crisis.

Thoughts from the more finance savvy goys among us?

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Might be a small downturn, but if you want to see if it's going to be a real crash, look to China.
Their banks have a lot more bad debt than western ones, and their government can barely keep them afloat as-is. If China goes, the world economy goes with it as suddenly there's no more "made in china" goods because the chinks will be too busy eating each other.

Bring it on.

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Ridiculous that you would put that besides silver as something you believe could be stable. Besides that, BTC will be worthless and completely obsolete in 5 years or less.

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How come?

In China pretty much everything is government owned either directly or by proxy.

The government can print money ad infinitum and the exchange rate is largely fixed.

I'm sure the higher ups are smart enough to prevent an implosion of the economy.

lol why didn't the Soviets do the same then?

best damn that could occur

because he's mad he didn't buy any

Different poster here but from my understanding helping developed some cryptos is that bitcoin has little to no use features compared to other coins.

Consider the following:
Bitcoin has use as a method of transfer of wealth between people, it self records the transaction in a secure and unalterable way and is decentralised in regards to its operation and upkeep. Now this is all well and good but other cryptos have copied this while also adding new features such as ethereum. Which adds sub crypto handling under the ERC20 umbrella as well as back end infrastructure, like sharding (unreleased). When you compare the two you can quickly see that one is likely to have longer shelf life so to speak. ETH will maintain its value as other things rely on it and has other uses, compared to that of bitcoin.

the ruble was crashed by jews so they could oligarch up the economy

China is a totally different ball game. They're the jews of the orient and much more cunning than drunken ruskies. It's also not total communism, but every large company eventually ends up in government ownership one way or another.

How is the Chinese exchange rate set? By holding it against us debt bonds that they have been buying from the US as collateral. The bonds that the Chinese have are used for collateral for their own debt which they used to build ghost cities and try to modernize their infrastructure. Once the dollar goes all of China's debts will turn toxic since the initial collateral will be depreciated and lenders will request an immediate collection of debts.

Hope it happens Wednesday when there's a full moon.

just give me your money, I'll invest it for you.

reroll

i thought it was just a level of how much foreign currency they hold compared to theri domestic currency they buy and sell their own money to keep the amount they need to keep the price fixed

because he's mad that he's already lost so much money on it

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this thread again?

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it's set by the Chinese government to whatever the hell they please

there is a small trading margin these days but they can take that away whenever they feel like

China moved away from relying on exports and they could be entirely sustainable without the west.

They are not smart enough to prevent an implosion. If they were they would have never let their debt balloon to the point that it is. Jinping was banking on Hillary coming in and ceding us as a world power. He gambled wrong.


Sure you are different poster. If the market were to crash and shit hits the fan, what value is your BTC? Will you be able to trade for food with it? Would Clem take the lighter fluid or the piece of paper that says, "I owe you one BTC, signed fag poster" for the loaf of bread. Yep. Your coin sure has value.

Yes
Lol, no.
Arabs have no power to crash the US economy.
> (((federal reserve))) interest rate hike
Trump won't let that happen.
Depends on the stock market and region. Also the Stock Market isn't everything.
I'll list stock market crashes in order of most likely:
1. China: Waaaay overdue for a crash. It's going to crash really hard as well.
2. Europe: It's more likely to be a slow bleed, but yeah they could have a Greece 2.0 with Italy if a few key things fail.
3. Japan: Any crash would mostly be an internal thing.
4. USA: Literally nothing at this point can cause a recession, save for the tech bubble popping. Even then then damage would be minisule compared to what would happen to the players above.

Inb4 petro-dollar niggers flood the thread with nonsense about how 'the dollar' is going to crash.

Completely agree with you, no tangible value in a shtf scenario. Was just trying to inform the other guy of why bitcoin isnt the wisest choice. In reality portfolio diversification is the smartest thing you can do. Gold, silver, ammo are all great investments imo but for economic gain they aren't the best choices compared to other things.

the debt is local and they can just wipe off the books whatever they please

actually China is the biggest holder of US debt

if they demand it all at once the US economy would crash

Chinese people are NPCs to some extend that must adjust to whatever new rules the game has just like us westerners must adjust to rapefugees coming in and property prices spiraling out of control

dissent is repressed China level hard in Europe as well these days

just like in the west few people are able to just pick up and leave to another country and there are restrictions when it comes to exchanging local currency for foreign currency as well

lawd one look at the website of ethereum pretty much makes me nope. Two pentagrams right in your face and "as above so below" on the company logo. I don't trust them.
Bitcoin on the other side is clean,

Good job at outing yourself commie.

ROLL

check for tech crash

Just using them an example. Many other Cryptos out there, have a look around. Just dont dump everything into one coin, diversify your investments. Helps protect yourself against fluctuations, crashes and general volatility.

Lol, you don't get to force these things.

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Meta-ROLL

damn it I can try

this is a prettu good rundown. The current stock market crash is driven more by seasonal patterns: "sell in october, buy in november" and the historic run-up that has already happened. There has been a lot of talk about an extended downturn in stocks, but that doesn't necessarily reflect on the economy as a whole. From what I understand, real interest rates are still low, and small businesses are doing great thanks to the tax cuts and deregulation.

The rest of the world imploding is a different matter. This is where our lack of exports actually helps us. If china crashes it doesn't really matter because they don't consume a lot of our goods, and the ones they do consume, soybeans etc, are not elastic, so demand won't change. Europe and China which rely heavily on exports could see compounding effects of any global downturn. The US should weather it pretty well.

stock tip: gold and silver are extremely low right now. Any up-tick in global inflation, national defaults requiring money printing, etc. and you will see these pop 20-80% in a short timeframe. Look at GOAU for a decent good levered bet.

Come on baby lets a go with that crash

damnit

whoo hoo

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Yeah, I only say that because they are they most unstable sector.
It kind of goes without saying that technology companies are magnets for venture capital.
The problem is, a lot of what is considered "tech" these days is shit that could expire in two to three years.
Facebook, Crypto, Twitter, All the spin-off shit that Google and Amazon produce. All these things could shutter if the government stops propping them up. Which could happen depending on midterms and the 2020 outcome.

Ain't mad check em

So what happens when 1.4 billion Chinamen all realize they've been jewed? Will this be the start of WWIII? Is there enough anti-china sentiment in the US for the jews to get America into a war protecting them from persecution in China? Could be interesting. China historically is pretty brutal about stuff like this. Once they start eating each other to survive, killing a few of the financiers who put them in this position will seem like nothing to them.

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And I agree with you. We are always going to have people that feed off of spinning tales of economic downturns. If we look at how America has done in the past, we either get the Great Depression or the 70's. If we get the 70's economic downturn then you will have a hard time finding a job and shit will suck. If we get a Great Depression (not this shit from a few years ago but something catastrophic) then it will look more like a STHF situation. I was looking more at the STHF but I can see your point on the other.


Nice boomer talking points sourced from Ben Berkike dumb dumb. China's foreign debt is $1.68 trillion of their total debt so they can't just move it around. They are in a worse boat than us if a foreign government decides to call it. We are the largest holder of our own debt. While China might own a fuck huge dollar value of our debt, it is still less than 10% of our debt. Things would be bad if they called it but it would have a global ripple effect that would hurt them. Our greatest fear is our own debt they own going sour. Think of all the stupid fucking kids that fell for the college meme. These kids can't pay off $75k worth of student loan debt across 10 years even if they got their fabled $15 an hour. Then they believe the politicians can fairy tale that debt away and it will have no impact on the economy. That is a more tangible worry.

Understandable, as always a man who doesn't plan, plans for failure. Another good commodity to think about in a shtf situation is tobacco, booze and seeds.

there are stories about companies jewing thousands of people out of their investments or property companies cutting property costs in half or to 1/3rd these days

protests and anger erruptions happen as a result but people get arrested, gulag'd or told to btfo

people in mid to top levels find ways to funnel their millions of shekels out of the country all the time and leave permanently to Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc. or at least let their children live there as a hedge if shit hits the fan.

the small man can't do shit though as anywhere in the world and asians on average are far more docile than whites

cheer up, homefry. it's almost Samhain.

Chinas foreign debt is just 15% of the GDP, which is pretty much nothing

nothing the chinese dont fight oppression

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I never have thought about how much of our national debt is student loans. It turns out it's about 1.5 trillion, in case anyone else was curious. 620 billion more than American credit card debt.

people can't default on that though and very few people will just teach engrish abroad forever and default on it

the only way that could burst if average joe with his philosophy BA can't find any jobs at all anymore but that is still a couple decades ahead with automation

It's already started. Millions of Chinese are committing capital flight to the USA right now. They are dumping money into the USA because they see it as the safest investment market. The communist party, obviously doesn't like this capital flight one bit.
It's why they banned bitcoin. Why they've tried to freeze all capital flight out of the country. It's all flowing into the USA because people have figured out that the Chinese market is about to do the belly flop of the century.

The downside(s) of crypto-currency and the jew world order is … neither work without electricity

Their total debt is $5.2 trillion. So their foreign debt is actually 32% which is not nothing.

You are not wrong that the Chinese are more docile than Westerners. There is historical precedence for this. Chinese dynasties believed they had and ruled with the mandate from heaven. The peasants believed that emperors ruled as such and allowed the government to think for them. You think China's globalist leanings are new? Wrong. They have always been an expansionist entity because they believed it was their duty to educate and lead the world. They have been this way for thousands of years. Where you need to pull the dildo out of your ass is that there were peasant revolts. Whenever a leader in a dynasty got so egregiously off the mark that even the most brainwashed could see it, you would have a revolt. The Maoist revolution (discounting foreign influence that helped spur it) was a revolt against a believed corrupt Kai-shek government. The Chinese people can revolt. It is just that their tolerance has such a high water mark that it looks like complacency. Why do you think their government has to censor as much? Because they know they are one fuck up away from getting lined up against the wall.

buy index puts and stfu global investment fag.
the shit will never hit the fan. the fans hit it daily to blow in your direction.
npc
violence is not entertaining, tiresome, or a spiritual burden, television watchers wait to enact violent fantasy according to their coding and can't even solve real life situations properly without indexing a database of jew made fictional images of what violence is supposed to entail.

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It can. If you think this is bad, just wait. You better have your i's dotted and t's crossed if we have a Weimar style collapse because Jamal is going to be knocking on your door. Only a fool thinks this charade can go on forever.

The inherent problem with any crypto is right there under your noses. The very concept of crypto is to avoid jewsury, interest, inflation/deflation, QE's, bail outs, TARP's, (((them))) capitalizing profits while socializing debt and risk to the goyim
smmfh

it isn't as though there is a home for this discussion somewhere on wheelchan

No electricity pretty much means nuclear war at this point. And you can't eat gold or silver either in that case.
And I think that I can cash out with the Chink collapse since every bump in the Chink economy means increase in the value of bitcoin.

Chinks won't go against the US/whole world. If they don't have Russia on their side with their nukes they will rather collapse. And I doubt that Putin will go against Trump since he likes him.
Their best bet would be to attack India since those too have a lot of excess manpower, roughly the same number of nukes and no significant allies. They have been positioning themselves against them very obviously by courting Pakistan and getting Ceylon into a debt trap.

I follow your coding. Quit blowing your meaningless shit around, shit fan.

Yeah, but if a major crash happens that systemically fucks China, many heads will roll. That's just small investment/property groups. The financial system is a whole different ballgame. China only has human rights when they want to. Also, your post formatting sucks dude. Write paragraphs and each sentence doesn't need its own line. You really should lurk 2 years.


So the US gets a huge amount of investment capital but loses ownership of a sizeable chunk of resources, we basically are invaded by wealthy chinamen.
Really? Do they have much of a relationship with the World Bank and other central banking institutions?


China has a history of cannibalism. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_in_China ) They routinely execute white collar criminals.( businessinsider.com/chinese-white-collar-criminals-death-sentence-2013-7 ) Have you ever been in a china hate thread? They clearly have a much lower value of human life than the west. If China experiences a "great depression" or even "great recession" tier event, I would expect incredible turmoil.

Also, if you want to prove your BTC is worth something, go to your local store and buy a roll of toilet paper with it. Until you can purchase something without converting it into usable currency, it will remain a meme.

Currencies depend on the communities that use them.
Cypto's fate will ultimately be determined by the community that uses it, and how that community is perceived by the outside world.
If you want to know how Crypto would fare in a SHTF scenario, think about how the Crypto community would react in SHTF. How they act will determine Crypto's role in SHTF.
Same thing goes with Gold bugs. Don't think about how Gold would react, think about how the gold-owning community would react.

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Chinese debt + 21 Trillion reported US debt + another 21 Trillion unreported Black debt (about the same as we've spent on fucking jizzrael over the past 50+ years) = war
It doesn't matter whether WWIII begins in the South China sea or in the middle east. WWIII is a world war. The point of wars is to cover up the little Erons scattered throughout history used to funnel wealth, power and control into fewer and fewer jew hands

Any Chink war et. al (Russia, US, ??) will result in a huge influx of Chinese relocating to Africa, and a sudden increase in incredible affordable General Tso's Chicken at Walmart coonveniently labeled as 'Made In China'
>China can take over huge wealthy areas of the African continent, make deals with our hook-nosed (((BFF's))), and erase debt through mining the stuffs that our hook-nosed (((BFF's))) seem to ultimately value

Because he's a goldkike that wants you to buy his bags.

/biz/'s favorite of LINK actually holds great potential. It's one where you could throw in money you aren't afraid to lose, and you really could make unreal returns off it in 5 years.

Of course they don't. No country wants the world up it's ass in a fight.
But that's not how these things start. It starts with China deciding to pick on it's regional neighbors, Vietnam, Taiwan. Next thing you know the Philippines are involved. Next thing you know the Saudis and the Iranians finally get their blood feud face to face. Next Europe catches on fire again. World Wars start regionally then escalate.
Russia can not afford, nor has the interest in, having anything to do with China's impending crisis.
There is nothing to gain in attacking India but a huge population of Peasants, India has been an overpopulated shithole since the 7th century B.C.
The real goal of China is to Secure the Trans Asian Sea-Lane, which passes through Indian and Pakistany waters.
That Sea-lane carries the Middle East Oil that china needs to keep the lights on.

falling for the propaganda pretty hard, chang…
so tiring…
woah there… Maybe you should read a little more chinese history… the non-pozzed version.
it's too late for revolt. The social control systems and AI are already in place. All they can do is become poor again.

Thanks for the tip, will have a look. Not a huge /biz/ user tbh. Keep an eye on XLM for the next 2 months I expect 20% - 35% gain potential.

Sage for kike fearmongering slide thread


kys

Yes, just like last week, Levi.

Also reading into LINK, definitely seems interesting, though the charts look a little lackluster..
Anyways, what is your reasoning for thinking that?

China doesn't have a jewish central bank.

Right now, smart contracts only work on blockchain. LINK links smart contracts to off-chain data, so they could actually be utilized by a variety of enterprise.

Read this, from one of the world's top tech consultant firms, to see how much potential is in smart contracts - capgemini.com/consulting-de/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2017/08/smart_contracts_paper_long_0.pdf

Chart doesn't matter much, and it's held its value better than most cryptos in this market. It's all crazy speculation until some of this technology is actually used (which won't be for years to come).

Just wait till the little ice age rolls in and they get crop failures on their already meager cropland.
Buying up african land isn't a coincidence.

I doubt that you can relocate during a war.

World Wars start due to the web of alliances and forcing the spark through regional wars. The difference here is that China has no trustworthy allies due to being arrogant Chinks with a Heavenly Kingdom complex. They even managed to distance Vietnam by giving them flashbacks despite being commies that supposedly started anew.

I think that giving 50 mil chink men a purpose other than masturbation and anti government activities is a damn good reason. The point isn't land. The point is redirecting the attention from the failing economy and propping it up with arms production. The same as the US did with WW2.
I think you meant "wrestle it away from the US". Which the US obviously won't allow. Chinks were betting massively on getting their puppet elected. Now everything is collapsing around them due to not learning from history and their mistakes as a civilization.

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Up and coming PR push expected. Should boost past and then settle around the $0.30 USD mark.

No.
Holy fucking shit, you’re retarded. The market CANNOT crash again. Laws passed after 2008 prevent it.

Reminder that these paid shills are allowed to post here now.

Well, It's more like preparation. Breton Woods isn't going to last forever. It's a net loss overall.
Absolutely, Trump is making sure of that.

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The 2008 laws are rather impotent compared to Glass Steagal (repealed by clinton). A crash can happen again.

They did that, though.

It can’t happen again. The fed will do QE4, 5, and 6. All banks are now legally allowed to steal all deposits on account to bail themselves out. THE CRASH. CANNOT. HAPPEN. AGAIN. Honestly, you could argue that a real market crash has not been possible since Nixon decoupled from gold. It’s just that we haven’t had a crash of that magnitude since then. 2008 was nothing compared to the Great Depression, after all.

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It happening

He's not even suggesting that in the post . . .

What the fuck are you talking about? I didn’t say that. Go on and tell us how the economy can collapse. By what methods could it happen?

We get a lot of fucking faggots here since the reddit takeover.

>>>/cuckchan/

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QE4 5 and 6 was the fed offering extremely low rate loans to banks. Also, due to fractional reserve banking, only a small percentage of a banks deposits are held on hand. You also need to consider that a bank stealing all deposits would create a great depression tier crash, not that this would be legal as you state, can you provide a source? A crash is always possible due to the risky nature of investment banking. Hence why Glass Steagal separated investment banks from traditional banks, the investors could fail and farmers and homeowners wouldn't lose their savings due to systemic breakage. Do you understand any of the points you are making? Decoupling from the gold standard only allowed Keynesian manipulation of currency to attempt to ease financial issues. They aren't a cure all. The QE practices by the fed basically told the financial sector they could fuck up and the taxpayer would foot the bill. It's welfare for the super rich. Nothing else.

Breton Woods ended in the 70'.
I think you missed the board.
>>>Zig Forums

The markets will get called out as fake news after the midterms. Watch. It's an obvious next target, and the jump will not be hard to make that tangible products on the ground and prosperity on a micro scale have little to do with faceless algorithms manipulating sliders on a global money board.

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Regarding the interest rates… why don't they slowly raise it in a way that makes sense and avoids shocking the system?
Say… raise it 0.25% every fiscal quarter until it reaches 5% then lock it in at that rate for one year.

Why not do that and tell everyone that's the plan?

I think finance kikes want a market crash pre election

ZOMG TRUMP CRASHED THE ECONOMY, VOTE DEMOCRATS FOR FREE GIBS

meant for

Are you literate? Fuck off.

You forgot to quote, and nothing you said has anything to do with the crash you’re claiming “will” happen.

CRASH THIS PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS!

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Also, user, that’s not what the definition of QE is. QE is explicitly “printing a shit ton of fake currency to pay our fake debts.”

yep eth development team contains known pedos

I mean yeah of course… and I know at this low, the only place to go is UP with those rates… it's just a matter of how fast and how high.
I want to buy a house but I want to be able to still get a good rate in 3 months.

DESI BASARA BASARA

Capitalism works. And remember, you got it only because of your effort and hard work.

Quantitative Easing, yes, that is effectively what it was. Offering money at rates lower than inflation. It was not to pay fake debts though. It was to bail out white collar criminals who had sold "c" rated mortgages bundled into mortgage backed securities which were "A" rated. This created toxic assets which were being sold as solid. It also fueled a housing bubble as the more mortgages there were, the more mortgage backed securities there were to sell. Speculation (gambling) drove an unsustainable bubble. When it became apparent that financial institutions were lending and selling securities irresponsibly, the bubble burst and housing prices collapsed, making the securities even more toxic as the value of the property would not have been enough to cover the value of the mortgage and therefore the mortgage backed security. This would have led to investment banks and regular banks (since the repeal of glass steagal allowed both to participate in this) to lose huge amounts of money and fail/not be able to cover the amount people had deposited with them. The government then gave them money at a rate lower than inflation, out of the taxpayers wallet, and against the taxpayer's will. Had these institutions failed, the super rich would have been hit the hardest. How much does a middle class family have in the bank? The FDIC would have covered it up to 125k (250k now) VS how much does a 1%er have in the bank and in investments, I would guess quite a bit more. We almost had a large wealth reset, which was only avoided by government handouts.

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No QE would have created another great depression. There is no doubt, banks failing would be terrible for the short term (approximately 10-15 years) but it would have seriously shaken the power structure that most people on here hate so much. Selective QE would have been the best option. Let Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns and Lehman Bros etc. fail for being toxic companies and save the traditional banks, or make loans with the limitation that it may only cover traditional deposits and banks must be responsible for the losses incurred by their shitty behavior. Then change might have happened. As it stands, we just gave rich people (jews) a get out of jail free card.

His posts pretty much boil down to
every time.
He is a no life homo who is upset about getting fired.