RAW MEAT REDPILL (Third Reich diet)

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Again, falsely implying that any non us counties are on a all raw meat diet. You are using logical fallacies in the hope that no one will actually examine what you are saying.

Parasites are very over exaggerated especially when dealing with healthy meat (organic, grass fed). Food poisoning comes from meat that has been allowed to go off while exposed to oxygen for a long time. However, it's still exaggerated. I ate raw chicken sandwiches and never once did I ever get sick. The only times I've had food poisoning is from Asian restaurants who gave me cooked meat. Diseases are also exaggerated.

Cooking destroys nutrients, which is why natural health doctors say you should at least eat some of your food uncooked. The fallacy of modern diet science is classifying food as good or not good based on if it's cooked or overcooked. Uncooked grass fed organic steak is a superhuman, a rare grass fed steak is an olympic athlete, a well done one is a wheelchair-bound gimp, and conventional science says there is no difference between them; the only difference is between those steaks and the lump of carbon you get after overcooking it.
If they're factory stuff, definitely. Organic farm-raised stuff is a different story.

Well, there's some stuff you have wrong, but that's fine, you haven't tried eating this way.
If you're eating plants, this is true, but meat is not made more digestible by cooking. You're reducing the nutrient content, and making the food more of a chore to digest by cooking, but I'll concede that there are good reason one might cook meat other than thinking it more palatable (which I do). If you're eating that poisonous Icelandic shark you actually have to ferment it before it's edible, for example.
You always want to properly source your food. Pork in the supermarket is just plain not good for you, because it's fed garbage, because pigs eat anything, and the factories take advantage of this convenience. It's funny, though, it's always the human-made factory meat that produces the diseas. I've eaten raw moose I killed, and squirrels without issue.
This is nutrient dense food. It's not expensive to eat your fill. I spend between $100 - $200 a month on food. This is my expense for myself and my dog. The problem with eating super-palatable food is that you'll eat more of it than you need.

False.
>news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/why-cooking-counts/
I have yet to find a single study that supports your claim. The only thing a rare steak is is tastier.

Cooking plants also destroys their nutrients. The reason why plants are cooked is because uncooked plants are virtually indigestible for humans. Our digestive system simply is not powerful enough.
I live in Australia and food here – Manhattan, NY prices but my 90% beef diet costs about $50 per week.

False.

Shill harder

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Can't refute the study that proves cooked meat delivers more energy?

Shithole

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And their anti-nutrients. But sort of predigesting plants via cooking is going to make any nutrient content more bioavailable. We know cows don't digest that shit, microbes in their rumens do.
So, we're roughly the same. It'll also vary depending on how active we are. I do some strenuous exercise a couple times a week, but otherwise I just stretch and lounge like cat.

Temperature can't change the structure of molecules then.

At least you're saging.

(((Harvard)))

Wasn't unexpected

Pottenger's Cats

one side: cooked meat. other side: raw meat

cooked lineage couldn't go past 3 generations and were violent, raw side kept going and very healthy

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Still can't refute it. Cats aren't humans. Provide a SINGLE academic study proving uncooked meat makes nutirents more available or provides more energy. Just one.

You're a retard.
well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/ask-well-does-boiling-or-baking-vegetables-destroy-their-vitamins/
No matter how you spin this, you contradict your original claim. And that's just a little bit of truth.

>news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/why-cooking-counts/

Mice and humans have different digestive systems. Also different genetics and require different nutrients. Useless study.

>(((Harvard)))
We've had a lot of posters lately sourcing from pozzed academia.

Why should we believe people funded by the kikes trying to exterminate us? You can try food for yourself and remove any doubt.

Raw meat is gross though.

Shit, I guess lab mice aren't either, science is just one big fat lie.

No there isn't a major (((institution))) proving it, just proven propaganda against it. Aajonus Vonderplanitz and other independent rogue doctors can prove it if you did your own research. I guess some people prefer face value spoon feeds)

You're the one who made the thread. It's your job to provide some evidence to support your claim.
Great, so you can show exactly where Mr. Vonderplanitz's research proves uncooked meat make nutirents more available or provides more energy. You can do that, right?

Destroys heme iron:
researchgate.net/publication/227969646_Total_Heme_and_Non-heme_Iron_in_Raw_and_Cooked_Meats

Cooking makes meat more carcinogenic:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769029/

Cooking meat reduces performance:
sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180321162250.htm
It increases inflammation, meaning mitochondria, the things that produce ATP, produce ATP less well. Less ATP = less energy.

Preperation does not affect digestibility:
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0061252

So much more to add. I could go all night here.

I can't wait until you die from E. coli and salmonella and stop making these threads you stupid faggot.
livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
Cooking breaks down proteins and makes them easier to digest. You need the proteins broken down to their component amino acids so you can reform those building blocks into the proteins your body actually needs. Cooking eliminates a massive number of potential sources of illnesses, and makes digestion easier.

Anyone who buys into OP's psy-op has a low IQ and deserves to die of the same self-inflicted illness he ultimately will.

The lowest temperature was 140 degrees Celsius for 30 minutes. Which is much more cooked than raw meat. Notice this study wasn't done on humans because no ethics committee would approve of poisoning humans with parasites and bacteria from raw meat. Go fuck yourself, you lying faggot.

>sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180321162250.htm
This is referring to grilling meats where the temperature of the grill is often 400+ degrees Fahrenheit. The comparison was to people who ate meat that was still cooked but not as well done. None of these are studies comparing people who eat raw meat to people who eat rare meat to people who eat well cooked meat. People who eat raw meat get sick and hopefully die from it, raising the global IQ average.

Nutrients are lost:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2621.1982.tb12883.x

Fish loses vitamins from cooking:
jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jnsv/57/6/57_6_432/_pdf

1-24% loss in iron from cooking in a pan. Not a big deal. Why don't you just take a fucking supplement daily anyways? Actually if you did that would increase your chances of fighting off your inevitable affliction with E. coli so I recommend you don't

This is idiotic.
Read grow youthful guys.

It's more ethical to give someone cancer than raw meat because of mythical parasites. Don't ya think they couldn't just source meat with no parasites in it? They won't though.

Cooking fat while it is exposed to oxygen oxidises it. You don't need super high heat.

The original claim was that cooking meat doesn't diminish its nutrient profile. I've proved that wrong already. Cooked meat also causes cancer. If you want an argument for why it lowers performance, look no further.

NANOGRAM. Notice that NG. You're losing 42% of 80 NANOGRAMS of Vitamin D; A NANOGRAM IS ONE BILLIONTH OF A GRAM. You're losing 42% of NOTHING. It's like saying I lost 42% of 5 cents, 5 cents is fucking nothing so losing 42% of it is meaningless. You need at least 20 micrograms of Vitamin D per day, micrograms are 1 millionth of a gram, not 1 billionth of a gram.
You need MILLIGRAMS of Vitamin E each day. Micrograms are one thousandth of a milligram. Losing a % of a Microgram is losing a % of NOTHING relative to what you need per day. Just like with vitamin D, you will NEVER get your daily dose of Vitamin E from meat, raw or cooked.

Which still isn't that big of a deal.

Are you a Flat Earther too? Anti Vax? Think 9/11 was holograms? Let's hear a list of all the dumb bullshit you believe in.

So what we can see here after looking at everything so far is that the more you cook meat, the worse it is for you. So the more raw meat is, the better it is for you. Raw is healthier.

None of the countries healthier than the US eat significant amounts of raw meat. Japs eat a little bit of raw fish and that's it. Your argument goes against your own baseless claim.

No it doesn't, it comes from bacteria in or on the meat. The harmful bacteria involved don't like oxygen.
No, science says the difference is tiny. Because we can measure the difference, and it is tiny. You can get far more iron than you need even eating overcooked meat, there is no reason to avoid properly cooked meat.
Factory farmed pigs eat hog feed, which is almost entirely corn and soy. You're a moron.
No it isn't. Hunters get food poisoning all the time, and wild game is the primary source of t. gondii infection.

Humans are not cats, we do not have the same requirement for taurine as we are not obligate carnivores.

Meat doesn't have vitamin C you retard.

That's using "vegetable oil" to cook the meat. The soy/canola oil is the problem, not the meat. You are literally posting kike anti-meat propaganda here.

How many people do you know who have succumbed to parasites from eating meat? You're more likely to get in a traffic accident than get sick from eating meat. You're screaming about bogey creatures you heard about from propaganda.

The only relevant effect you've shown is that there is a very moderate reduction in B12. People should be taking a daily multivitamin supplement anyways so that's basically irrelevant. A very slight increase in B12 you can more than make up for with a supplement is not worth the risk of disease.

Gotta laugh at you drones who hold any modern day practice in high regard simply because it's the norm and an authority figure told you we're doing everything right.

Yeah, you're a tool.

The reason that number is small is precisely because nobody eats raw meat.

LMAO he's anti vax too. So you aren't denying that you're also a Flat Earther who believes 9/11 was holograms or are you going to address that too?

Supplements. How did humans ever make it without supplements? That shit is literal toxic waste.

Lots of people eat "normal food", and they're ALL sick.

Has anybody managed to regenerate or grow a new tooth on the raw meat diet?

"Normal food" is completely meaningless. All you have done is spout anti-meat kike propaganda and then cry whenever anyone points out that there's no positive correlation between health and raw meat.

I am a fellow traveler in the carnivory communities.

I just want to warn people against taking any one particular figure in this movement too seriously, especially idiots like Shawn Baker.

It is NOT a good diet to eat only ribeye steaks forever. You need organ meats to achieve your vitamin requirements.

Vonderplanitz and his follower Sv3rige are right about many things, but Vonderplanitz's concoctions for different ailments that usually involve some form of raw honey and other strange ingredients are not very effective on the people who have tried them, and seem like bad science.

There are better YouTubers out there that provide a more scientific approach to carnivory. Frank Tufano is a great example.

I have suffered more than a couple of vitamin deficiencies trying to find the best diet for me, but everyone here experimenting with meat based diets is on the right path.

Fuck Jewish withholding of natural human food.

Supplements are toxic waste, really? Got a source for that claim? I'd love to see you lie more.
Vitamin deficiencies were common.
journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdfplus/10.1086/691683
Check out table 1, IGD is a sign of vitamin D deficiency

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If that was true, people wouldn't get sick from eating fermented meats. Unless they get contaminated, the risk is very low.

There is, because it is carcinogenic, has less nutrients, and the fats are oxidised and damage mitochondria which means less energy. Unless you're using infra-red lighting to cook it, I wouldn't trust.
And that's bad. I don't disagree. I wouldn't eat such a creature.
In polluted areas, yes. Study on hunter poisoning?
thenakedscientists.com/articles/questions/how-do-inuit-cope-without-fresh-vegetables-and-vitamin-c
Wrong!
They oxidise more easily but all fat can oxidise.

Disregarding everything else posted. Yeah.

Raw meat was common in Europe no more than 200 years ago. Since then disease rates have only gone up exponentially. The fact that no one has studied this is highly suspicious.

You know, not many people here are laughing with you, and if I'm willing to eat raw meat, name the jew, and be proudly white in my life, peer pressure is likely not a factor in my decision making. Weak tactic. Keep pushing jewish practices, it really helps your argument.

Yes, it does. Especially if you dig into liver, the vitamin C is far higher than in ny vegatables, and way more bioavailable. Retard.

No, I haven't dumbass.

You still haven't denied that you believe the Earth is flat and that 9/11 was actually holograms so I'm going to take that as an admission you're a complete fucking idiot.

Oh boy now we just need to get the South American schizo that drinks bleach ITT

Are you for real?

I agree with almost everything ITB but I won't start eating raw fucking meat like a barbarian. There has to be some point where I draw the line.

Yes, I have healed my cavities on raw meat. I developed them on a vegan diet and they were so bad I couldn't eat bread without being in extreme pain. Now I can eat anything, no pain. They regenerated to a point. I have been raw meat for four years now and I never brush my teeth. No plaque and no issues at all.

No, but you can project force into your mouth where your tooth used to be using concentrated brain waves, which will act as a replacement for your tooth.

psychosomatic tooth.

I hope you get some sort of parasite, OP.

Oh no!

How do you think humans ate for most of their time on this Earth? How do you think all animals eat? It's not that weird. The way humans are living now is what's fucking weird. The past 10,000 years at least we've thought we could do better than nature, and started mutating plants, via agriculture, into bizarre sugar bombs.

The blink of a fucking eye, relatively.

Deficiencies only really became a serious problem after agriculture. A successful and intelligent hunter could get everything they needed from animals. European berries provided the polyphenols and antioxidants.

I've had the same experience. Meanwhile, my friends and family continue to eat mutated, ultra-processed non-food, but brush religiously, and still have insane dentist bills.

They don't. What are you babbling about?
No it is not. Vegetable oil is. Stop spouting kike anti-meat propaganda and learn to read. Just because Dr. Shekelgrubber slathered a steak with soy oil and then burned it doesn't mean that a steak is the problem. Do it with a safe saturated fat instead of a toxic polyunsaturated fat and suddenly the carcinogens are gone.
Pollution has nothing to do with food poisoning. Food poisoning is from bacteria.
Not wrong, read what you posted. Organs have vitamin C, not meat. Cooking a steak won't reduce the vitamin C content because there is no vitamin C in it to start with.
No, oxidizing is burning, that doesn't matter. That would simply turn it into CO2 and water vapor. Peroxidation is the problem, where oxygen reacts with the double carbon bond to split the molecule producing toxic free radicals. This can only occur in unsaturated fats, as saturated fats have no double carbon bonds. This is why saturated fat is healthy and polyunsaturated fat (which has multiple double carbon bonds) causes several inflammatory diseases.
Just making random shit up is not compelling. Raw meat was not common in Europe at any point since we have a written history.
If you actually look at it, the disease rates have gone up since the 1910s. Precisely when "vegetable oil" was introduced in the form of margarine and shortening.
People have studied it. It is directly due to the introduction of toxic omega 6 laden "vegetable oil". Kikes have tried to blame meat right from the start. Heart disease went up while meat and animal fat consumption went down, and kikes like proctor and gamble spent millions telling everyone that meat and animal fat were the cause. The american heart association was created and funded by P&G just to push this lie so they could keep selling crisco.

Liver is organ meat, we're talking about muscle meat. Cooking steak doesn't become bad because liver has vitamin C.
Yes you have. Your "study" was created to lower meat consumption by tainting the meat with toxic PUFA and then blaming the meat for the carcinogens produced.

Italian and Iberian Prosciutto > > > all that industrialized ham shit you eat.
This prosciutto + a good cheese and wine is absolutely divine.

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Many animals are primarily herbivorous.

It's better to point out the differences between humans and herbivores.

Humans do NOT:

Humans DO:

Interesting to note that the human cecum is practically nonexistent, and is connected to the appendix, a gastrointestinal dead end.

Humans became intelligent with significant help from eating a lot of meat. They are THE meat eating great ape.

Why wouldn't you investigate this shit yourself? And why do you want to entrust your health to artificial, quick buck pills/liquids? I quickly youtubed a mainstream source that warns against supplements so you might actually listen, you fucking tool.

Raw is what I was referring to, as in not cooked.

I really hate SJWs!

Hitler was a vegetarian, you monumental kike. So were many other members of the Reich, including Hess.

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None of you jew approved normies ever existed here until the Kushner sponsored takeover for the Trumpstein campaign

Back to OPs topic, all the anti-vegan stuff rising in America is rather odd considering the only thing required to maintain a healthy body is eating a good antibiotic/steroid free steak once a month

The irony of course being that America of all places in the world provides some of the most poisoned damaged meat in the world. Yet that's where the majority of the anti-vegans all reside.

I eat meat simply because I struggle to maintain protein levels without meat, if I lived in America I would be more inclined to avoid their meat if at all possible

Another thread infested by reactionary, anti-science carnivore faggots shilling their snake oil diet (guaranteed to "cure what ails ya"). Oh and forget about proof. A jew did science once, so fuck the scientific method - we trial and error now! Idiots.

No, he wasn't. He started eating like fucking idiot when he gave control of his health over to the fat, slovenly Dr. Morell, who replaced his body's many natural processes with addictive artificial cocktails. Stop spreading this stupid kike lie.

I realised that people don't realise what eating healthy means. They have a feeling of healthy. To them, all a "healthy" diet does is make them superficially healthy. They don't realise how bad carb-based diets are. Carbs are one of the leading sources of neuro-degeneration. Keto diets are now showing that they increase IQ, especially when endogenous ketones are part of it.

There is nothing unhealthy about eating raw or fermented meat provided it is uncontaminated.
Anything brown and black produced from the cooking is carcinogenic. They teach this to kindergarteners.

Pollution causes sickness, sickness means skin that cuts easily and doesn't heal easily and bodies that get infected easily. Healthy animals in unpolluted environments don't exist as disease reservoirs.

>Peroxidation is the problem
Correct, and when you expose fats to heat, that happens. Boiling is safer because the water protects the meat.

Raw meat/fish was popular in old Latvia and Scotland, for example. Wrong.

I'm talking about food related diseases and degeneration, genius. IQ has been dropping for more than 200 years, heart disease, diabetes, etc. etc. etc. is has been climbing like a rocket since then. Studies have proved that indigenous populations of Scotland, Switzerland, Papuans, Abos, etc. etc. etc. were extremely more healthy than us eating their native diets (fish and meat).
A handful at best. The amount of research that needs to be done is massive.

Hitler also wanted to feed everyone soy and the reich marketed soy beans as Nazi beans. That's genetic fallacy anyway.

It's because the meat and dairy industry has direct ties to the mainstream media and government in America.

You're completely full of shit and have obviously never read anything from primary sources. From Goebbels diaries, to Speer's memoirs, to a million other sources, and to the very laws the Third Reich passed concerning animal welfare, there is overwhelming proof that confirms Hitler was an ethical vegetarian. Even the Hitler youth were encouraged to try vegetarianism to be more like their Fuhrer.

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Carnism is objectively a semitic practice. Veganism is the Aryan way.

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That idiot shilling for eating rotten meat and not drinking water is an inverse-vegan and is promoting something equally unhealthy. Another case of false dichotomy promoted by kikes.

A quality, balanced diet (with a lot of meat) is the only way.

Veganism is anti-science, it's propaganda pushed by kikes and (((elites))) who want you to eat literal pig food to know your place. Every vegan is a SJW and should be gassed.

Vegans are every bit a stupid as the carnivore faggots.

So he was a retard.

Veganism and Vegetarianism cause low testosterone and neuro-degeneration. Aryans ate meat anyway.

Does anyone think this is a goon trying to stop us from cooking our meat?

These are the same kikes who are tasked with "deconstructing" NS philosophy to support feminism, veganism, and other SJW practices. They are often followed by a third kike saying "Hitler was a feminist, Hitler was a vegan, etc. and that's why you shouldn't support him"

Their goal is to either make you accept their globalist SJW agenda, or make you disown Hitler and National Socialism.

Which has nothing to do with anything I said. Learn to read.
No it is not.
They also teach 68 genders and that they can pick any gender they want and change it every day. Just because a kike lies to a child, doesn't make it reality.
Disease predates the existence of humans. You are an absolute and total waste of sperm.
Not saturated fats, like I explained. Learn to read you braindead sack of shit.
No it was not, it was quite uncommon. So you need to demonstrate that those countries where it was uncommon were healthier than the other countries where it was non-existent.
So am I retard.
No it has not.
Those things all started in the 1910s, like I just told you. Heart disease literally did not exist until the first case in 1916. It is 100% directly a result of the introduction of toxic seed oils to our diets.
Yes, because they have no "vegetable oil". They don't eat raw meat you idiot, you are contradicting your own baseless claim again.
So we'll just ignore the research that has been done and make up a reason that does not fit the data at all? Nice logic.

THIS OP IS BS AND A SHILL!.
Read grow youthful.
Have a diet high in non gmo greens, have lots of plant fats, try to have 0 added sugar in your diet, the jews are trying to make you unhealthy, hence this stupid thread.

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That is correct
The more healthy steroid/antibiotic free meat consumed the lazier and sluggish you become.
American produced meat is pretty much poison to the human body due to the mass production involving synthetic foodstuffs fed to the cattle
>Veganism is anti-science, it's propaganda pushed by kikes and (((elites)))
As I said the influx of Redditors and various isreali agencies has led to Zig Forums being normie jew approved central

I have no dog in this fight
However I wish I had the self control to increase my veg to meat intake but veggie only diets require a level of commitment I simply haven't got

What science has been conducted on the diet? How long has science been kiked? There's people who'd like to conduct more tests, but jews run "science" from the top down. "Science" is used the same way as "racist", by people who worship authority. It's just used to shut up those who disagree with the establishment narrative.

What we do have is the ability to eat the food ourselves, and look at people the Inuit who also ate almost entirely meat before having their health fucked by encroachment of civilization.

hormones
I suppose he got those from fucking carrots.

Excerpt is from "The Secret Diaries of Hitler's Doctor" by David Irving, btw.

That's all a load of shit. Thanks for solidifying your status as resident retard.

They began as soon as we left our traditional diets. That means when we started eating processed foods (foods altered/processed from their natural form. That includes bread which is poison.

Buzzword nonsense for unthinking drones. Eat what your body wants.

The human gut has evolved for a diet of cooked meat.

Fire is estimated to have been discovered several hundred thousand years ago, and homo sapiens has only been around for ~200,000 years.

Other primates use significantly more energy to digest their meat than we do because they eat it raw.

Any Plantist want to comment on the pH of human stomach acid?

It's literally HCl. Stomach acid has a pH of 1.

Why would you need such strong pH to digest plant matter? The only other animals with such a strong pH are scavengers.

Hitler grew up in a homeless shelter.

He then spent time in ww1 eating like shit (also probably some horse meat from dead horses everywhere).

He then spent his early adulthood eating tomatoes, lettuce, and milk because he spent all his money renting a piano to compose on and couldn't afford food

Found the jew. Funny how much of a magnet he still is. They just can't stop.

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What does that mean, though? Cooking doesn't necessarily mean burning with fire. It might just mean fermenting/rotting, because that is a method of "cooking", and you know plenty of humans came across rotted meat killed by other predators and ate it. We also have a gigantic history of eating rotten foods. Cheese being an obvious one. And I know for a fact people weren't heating up their milk before consuming it. They were drinking it raw, and making cheese with it raw.

To this day, raw shark is a food eaten in Iceland.

Did you get that info from British imperial Pathe news?

The only post worth considering here is the one stating you should eat whatever your body craves for any any given time unless you're a greedy fat cake eating Amerifat and you need to have your mouths wired up.
Your body knows exactly what it needs.

The only authority that matters.

Yes goy, better starve so we can exploit you more efficiently and so you don't have enough energy to think. You'd also become hysterical and start hating other people so we can lure you into supporting one of our 'causes' like feminism or (((animal welfare))).

It's much cheaper to feed the goyim with soy (literal pig food lel) than bother with meat. Smart people eat food bought from peasants, but (((they))) are working heavily on eliminating that. Also, many elites fell for the ecology scam (this is what happens when you get extremely stupid people get on top thanks to nepotism) so now they are trying to force everyone to live like a plant while simultaneously increasing population so they can virtue signal.

GMO vegetables and pesticides are not any better. Food quality being shit is not actually an argument in favor of veganism, it's an argument for questioning (((who))) is taking control of all the food production globally. It's a false dichotomy just like vaccines.