Aryan Phenotypes

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Because they are probably less nordic by admixture
The "aryan" phenotype goes for the corded ware one, the more corded one is, the more Aryan he is, by thay logic

He is right through
People should stop with the dominant bullshit

*though

I'm 99 percent sure that if a nigger fucked a blonde chick the kid is gonna have brown hair, not blonde hair you fucking idiot.
I'm also 99% sure that if some Mediterranean fucked a Nordic chick then the Mediterranean brown hair and eyes will prevail over the blue eyes and blonde hair

Even though you are specifically asking genetics. Culture/language are all formed from a race of people. Languages of native europeans (Basque for example) are more likely to have less aryan DNA. How do you know this? Linguistics. Indo-european language is what ties sanscrit from india to irish language (gaelic). Not just that, but even dead languages such as tochairian in china had indo-european (DNA). Now that isn't to say just because you don't speak a indo-european language (such as finnish) that you are not aryan.

To get an idea of what the ancient aryan is to go back in time. Understanding their lifestyle (nomadic horseback riding war tribe). A marginal amount of the modern european today would show these aryan traits.

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Also, understanding just because you have more genotype of aryan DNA isn't a for-sure fire to understanding what that you look aryan. Genotype typically correlates with phenotype, but not always.

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those south european types look a bit dubious

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(((Dinarid)))

Yeah, just start measuring the skulls of absolutely everyone you know or ever meet. If you go on a date with some chick, throw her ass into an MRI and tell her to sit still for the next hour. But if you aren't prepared to do that then fucking deal with it that people are going to be judging based on appearance. And appearance can tell you absolutely everything about a person's genetic makeup. In Russia and pretty much any slavic country, people can actually tell each other's ethnicity and even the region they are from. And that isn't because of slavs being absolutely pure, although something like that would most certainly contribute, Russia is by far the most mongrelised of any slavic nation yet they are still capable of it.
Because absolutely anyone can have them, they are called dominant traits for a reason, they overwrite recessive traits. And, by having phenotypes that anyone can have, you eliminate the validity of those results. So by invalidating part of the results, you make the valid portion more uncertain, which people often solve by simply excluding them.

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Hitler didn’t have an issue with people with dark hair because he wasn’t retarded. Dark hair and blue eyes were what he had. It’s a good combination.

You are too dumb to understand that Blonde is extreme while brown is middle ground
From what I have seen, light color is partly more dominant, if you compare hair color of mutts compared to their parent's averages
If some genes were truly dominant then no one would have blond hair these days
My mother has reddish-brown hair, father has med black
I have dark blonde hair

Anyone who says hair and eye colour alone = race is retarded. I have dark hair and dark eyes and this is where I sit on a very accurate PCA. I'm 3/4 Cornish and 1/4 Dutch. 100% descended from Cordeds.

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You are not 100% descanded from the corded. Its simply not possible.
British have lots of mediterranean DNA. Also pigmentation varied among groups with similat DNA (some HG-s were light/same for Farmers and the steppe)
Blonde hair became more dominant with bell beakers (in Northern Europe) and on from that

I speak generally, obviously; but both the British and Dutch came from the same group of Cordeds. Of course, now it's all mixed. My father's last name for instance is Anglicised French which indicates French blood, and with him being Cornish, that makes a lot of sense.
However much they have, it's not very much; most tests won't pick up anything. Hell, modern English are more Germanic than Austrians are. They're more purely Germanic than the Dutch.

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Eastern Orthodox and not a NatSoc. Reported for being leftist filth.

I have very dark hair though and blue eyes

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What are your results for K15? Closest distance?

user, you are replying to an obvious shill.

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He's a Brits are Meds shill; the biggest Conspiracy is Brits are not Aryan/Germanic, etc. Modern analysis show they're extremely Northern. They are closer to Swedes than Austrians are, and Austrians are way closer to the Mediterranean than Brits are. The data proves him wrong. I'm tired of people implying a crypto Greco-Turk mutt.

These are my results for the EU test V2 K15 4 - Ancestors Oracle

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Ridiculous.

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tfw aryan

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Pic related is the most Aryan phenotype of all, tbh.

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Austrians genetically plot halfway between me, a Romanian, and British Islanders. That's how Aryan they are

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Btw Hitler's paternal y-dna was E-V13, which is a neolithic farmer lineage most common in the Balkans, but It's not uncommon in Austria, while mine is R1b

you are both talking about absolute values
How brown?
How Aryan?
there seems to be correlation between how aryan you are and what is your hair color

I have dark brown hair and blue eyes and I’m mostly German and some Scottish. Actually my ancestors were Germans from Russia.

ITT people miss the forest for the trees arguing which race is most pure meanwhile another blacked video gets shot today

Anthropology is neat but when it’s used for D&C you’re just a shabbos goy doing the kike’s work for free.

Only a jew would make such vulgar drawings.

German and Scottish does much about your ancestry, older ancestry which makes up your race
It is the recent ancestry after the nations were formed

it's none of my thing what retards these retards do
they will abandon their race, I am glad they're gone
I will stand up for my own children
Standing up for retards who do BLACKED porn shows how internally cucked you are

Did you even read my post? None of these statements are things that I mentioned there. I made no statements on brown hair/eyes being or not being Aryan and I made no statements claiming that non-Aryans are non-white. I stated that the skull is an awful measure in practice, it's a great measure if you have access to that information but you will very rarely have the info available to you. And then on the last part I simply stated that, due to how practical the information on hair/eye colour is, many people use that as the basis for their judgement.

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Europeans know they are different and we are certainly not "brothers"(your brother people are likely your proximate neighbors alone), cousins at best, the only ones shouting about this "muh brotherhood" are americans with their ever diminishing number of generic "white" people, whatever that means
nationalizing phenotype is ridiculous anyway, Germany itself was considered a mishmash of various European races by NSs themselves

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Phenotype ≠ race. Even siblings can have different phenotypes. As an anthropology enthusiast, I agree with the person above that it shouldn't be used for d&c.

That’s true but they’re still my people regardless. I’m just finally getting a grasp on genetics but these results go back very far.

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race as traditionally understood is essentially phenotype, in fact, your distinction is entirely modern
the only thing you need to tell apart a labrador from a german shepard is your eyes, and it should be no different with sapiens, with the difference though that within Europeans you are talking more about subraces than races, if one wanted to make a proper hierarchy within the caucasian race
variation in phenotype of siblings is normally not outside the variation of the subraces of their parents, who themselves obviously also represent in most cases mixed elements already

This calculator is not accurate either
1 WHG 60.48
2 EHG 21.69
3 Iran-Mesolithic 12.05
4 Amerindian 5.79
These are results for Khvalynsk EHG who was the most EHG you could find
If you really want to see ancient populations
Best is when you take PuntDNAL K10 and Dodecad V3
You could model them
WHG - 100% WHG in PuntDNAL
EHG - 59% WHG, 41% CHG in PuntDNAL and 0% West-Asian in Dodecad
Caucasian - 100% CHG in PuntDNAL and 100% West-Asian in Dodecad
Mediterranean - 77% EEF, 23% WHG

(check)
Agree, with the strong caveat that phenotype is much more than just physical appearance. Race, in a traditional sense, always implied psychological and even spiritual qualities as well (cf. the phrase "he was a man of race").

what exactly is you problem? terminology or something? fuck off

If you cant understand how stuff is relative then off yourself you have too low IQ

DISAPPEARING PHENOTYPES
Sources from antiquity describe various ancient populations, from Germans to Georgians, as being frequently red haired, yet today red hair is a very rare trait among most populations, and isn't even that common in Ireland. Was red hair a much more prevalent trait 2000 years ago, and if so, why has it disappeared?

Other now uncommon traits include large heights, such as skeletons found to be 6.5-7 feet/2+ meters tall, like Tarim Basin mummies and Cro-Magnon skeletons. Were whites taller millennia ago?

Then there's something about how ironically more purer whites can get a tan easier and faster, like pure Nordics can put on a deep golden hue with little to no sunburning. Varg's Iraqi photos show his family looking almost purple in some photos, even darker than the Iraqis.

obviously translation and context matters, Romans most likely didn't mean "red" as in "ginger" but somewhat light brown/dark blonde, "rutilus" can mean something like pic related as well

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You’re right user these are ancient af

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Racemixing
Ancient Romans and Greeks brought Arab genes into Europeans
South-Germans were used to be more Aryan, some article I could find on this is here
pnas.org/content/early/2018/03/06/1719880115

East-Mediterranean/West-Asian/Red-Sea admixtures were brought in by Romans and Greeks.
higher levels of Baltic admixture was spread by the Slavs who were mixed with local hunter-gatherers
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19c_bZjUV_RouKyGyLHmMDw57WwAVabXFJOaso_gcuRE/edit?usp=sharing

Bell Beakers of North-Western-Europe/Unetice/Hallstatt culture clustered more with North-West-Europeans than with modern people of the same region
Caucasia and Central-Asia was more white 4000 years B.C.
I have also made this table for it for the Southern Siberia/Central-Asian part
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sWho8prlNag21VuwWlVaAT8tRzYPSBljSStqzdNNI4g/edit#gid=909349069

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Shit I meant V3 not V2

This. 25 years ago in college anthropology I was taught the basic starter kit of human society is:
race -> culture -> language -> ethnicity.

You start with a group of people that look the same, then they develop their own traditions, then their own language, and then boom you have a new ethnicity.

nonsense
nonsense, already detected in bronze age SE Europe, ötzi the iceman himself in your own link shows 20% east Med, put Minoans and Mycenaeans there and you'd see increased west asian/CHG-like affinity linked to Y-DNA J2(found even in bronze age Croatia)

Here I runned them through R with nMonte
Mediterranean,39
EHG,34.9
WHG,18
Caucasian,8.1

East-Mediterranean in Otzi was different from the brought on later in greater amount
Atlanto Mediterranean and North Italian Remedello examples showed no little to evidence of this admixture
East-Mediterranean somehow dissapeared when mixed up with hunter-gatherers
It is probably because Eurogenes K15 is based on modern populations
But it correlates highly with West-Asian admixture in K15
If you run these ancient samples through gedmatch, you would get something like 50% Sardinian + 50% Assyrian

no little evidence

[citation needed]
for that matter the Stuttgart farmer from LBK culture in neolithic Germany shows even higher one than modern Sardinians and about as much as south Italians, and they were already mixed with WHG
yeah no shit, spreading your shitty propaganda using modern populations with old calculators to understand ancient DNA is probably not the best idea

not all farmers were exactly the same anyway, notice the difference between neolithic Ireland and neolithic Hungary in their affinity with moderns, some of those farmers, likely those of the more mediterranean side(i-e those who brought Y-DNA E-V13 in the Balkans along with cardial pottery), were likely, well, more mediterranean compared to those who just went from NW Anatolia into Europe

which ones? if you force a calculator to model an ancient sample using only two modern populations you are going to get rather shitty models, no fucking shit

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I meant these

Z004092 Mycenaean I9006
Z157740 Mycenaean I9033
Z290210 Mycenaean I9010
Z667807 Mycenaean I9041
Z834237 Minoan_Lasithi I9005
Z242828 Minoan_Lasithi I0070
Z497886 Minoan_Lasithi I0071
Z445292 Minoan_Lasithi I0073
Z746199 Minoan_Lasithi I0074
Z501208 Minoan_Odigitria I9127
Z646820 Minoan_Odigitria I9129
Z383564 Minoan_Odigitria I9128
Z140201 Minoan_Odigitria I9130
Z129820 Minoan_Odigitria I9131

Next ones are from North-Italian "barbarian societies" from 7th century AD, pic related
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30206220
Some of them cluster near north-west-europeans
Z704319 Z245031 Z752825

here is the italian bell beaker, what is also on your PCA
Z251090

Sources:
theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?244543-Ancient-samples-GEDmatch-kits/page5
(and page 3)
eupedia.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-34338.html

Here are some examples

Myceanean

1 Italian_Jewish 12.17
2 South_Italian 12.63
3 Algerian_Jewish 12.78

1 53.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 46.4% Sardinian @ 7.99
2 55% Lebanese_Druze + 45% Sardinian @ 8.48
3 54.1% Assyrian + 45.9% Sardinian @ 8.61
4 68.7% Cyprian + 31.3% Sardinian @ 8.63
5 57.8% Lebanese_Christian + 42.2% Sardinian @ 8.65

Italian Bell Beaker

1 Tuscan 15.18
2 West_Sicilian 15.8
3 South_Italian 16.64
4 North_Italian 17.2

1 68.3% Sardinian + 31.7% Armenian @ 5.57
2 51.4% South_Italian + 48.6% Sardinian @ 5.57
3 68.9% Sardinian + 31.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.83
4 50.1% Sardinian + 49.9% Central_Greek @ 5.8

North-Italian town

1 South_Italian 8.29
2 Central_Greek 10.35
3 East_Sicilian 10.56

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% Georgian_Jewish + 39.6% Sardinian @ 2.71
2 61.9% Assyrian + 38.1% Sardinian @ 2.82
3 61.1% Armenian + 38.9% Sardinian @ 3.53

Italians and Greeks have high amount of haplogroup J2 and haplogroup J1 which would confirm it
West-Asian admixture was also found with in Aryans, but the percents with North-Europeans would not match up

I runned these samples through Eurogenes K15

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no shit, you are saying some samples from a well known Lombard cemetery which contained Lombards, a people known for a fact to come from north Europe, clustered with north Europeans? wow, you are a perspicacious one

the fact that Minoans and Mycenaeans models somewhat shitty as Sardinian + Assyrians simply testifies what I have said already, that west-asian/near east affinity had already increased in SE Europe and Anatolia well before historical times, alongside with Y-DNA J2, found among them and even in bronze age Croatia(not to mention a neolithic Austrian), as well as a J1 in bronze age Anatolia, which is one of the ancient peoples closest to south Italians and the like when you look at ancient overall affinity

nobody is denying Greeks and Italians to a degree have increased near east affinity compared to neolithic Europe, but it has little to do with history but all with prehistory as ancient DNA is showing
in fact, I'm fairly sure even a neolithic Greek had already increased CHG admixture like Minoans, and the poor quality Sicilian Beakers too

when you use ancients to model modern Greeks and Italians, you'll see that a popular source to explain the "west asian" input is the samples from Kura Axes culture

Kura Axes but also Armenia_ChL

The east mediterranean is still too high compared to ancient west mediterraneans
I think they they could come from Kura-Axes, then they mixed up with some east-mediterraneans near the border of syria/cypros and from there they moved to south-east-europe

well of course it is, but again when you look at samples like NE1(Hungary, ~30% "east med", high affinity with Sicilians as shown in ), it's clear that not only some farmers were already more eastern to begin with, but then when you add the other eastern sources like Armenia_ChL or simply bronze age Anatolia(?Etruscans, Troians?) it is only natural that "east med" is high
ancient west meds are of limited use when you are talking about east meds, it makes no sense to compare Sicilians or Greeks with ancient farmers from Iberia, it would already be much more sensible to simply use the various available Greek neolithic samples

the first PCA in or pic related shows a gradual "easternization" of SE Europe and Anatolia, both due to steppe ancestry for sure but also non-steppe east Med/CHG ancestry driving the samples towards the near east

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I runned them through PuntDNAL K12 and analyzed through R and nMonte of one these South-Italian samples
Here is what I got

"distance%=6.1032"

Kura-Axes,52.8
NE1,44.3
Extra-WHG,2.9

[1] "distance%=1.8809"

Kura-Axes,44.9
NE1,33.4
LevantBA,18
Extra-WHG,3.7

Without LevantBA

Sub.Saharan Amerindian South_Asian Near_East Siberian European_HG
South-Italian 0.00000 0 0.0000 15.45000 0.53 10.36000
fitted 0.14619 0 1.9008 10.31169 0.00 11.21744
dif 0.14619 0 1.9008 -5.13831 -0.53 0.85744
Caucasus_HG South_African_HG Anatolian_NF East_Asian Oceanian
South-Italian 32.82000 0.24 40.33000 0 0.26000
fitted 33.51091 0.00 42.69062 0 0.03101
dif 0.69091 -0.24 2.36062 0 -0.22899
Beringian
South-Italian 0.00000
fitted 0.19049
dif 0.19049

With LevantBA

Sub.Saharan Amerindian South_Asian Near_East Siberian European_HG
South-Italian 0.00000 0.0000 0.0000 15.45000 0.530 10.36000
fitted 0.11022 0.0288 1.6866 15.24552 0.099 10.07582
dif 0.11022 0.0288 1.6866 -0.20448 -0.431 -0.28418
Caucasus_HG South_African_HG Anatolian_NF East_Asian Oceanian
South-Italian 32.82000 0.24 40.33000 0.0000 0.26000
fitted 32.41198 0.00 40.08031 0.0936 0.02338
dif -0.40802 -0.24 -0.24969 0.0936 -0.23662
Beringian
South-Italian 0.00000
fitted 0.14362
dif 0.14362

You can see it clearly lacks of the near-eastern component which in Eurogenes K15 makes up the eastern mediterranean when mixed with anatolian farmer and caucasus HG (it's more complicated though)
Also
50% West-Asian
23% East-Med
39% West-Mediterranean
30% East-Med

East and West Sicilians from the K15_population_averages, I posted above

17.35666667 14.43 26.94333333
17.75666667 10.64333333 26.74666667

do the math, it will not match up

M837880
kura axes is 28% east-mediterranean tbh, but there is still too much west-mediterranean and west asian in both samples

Posting some more info.

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And what about the Dutch. The name German literally derives from the Dutch well, Frysian actually Geertman.

If you are speaking about old school aryan.
Then corded nordid is your answer.

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North-Dutch
82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% Lithuanian @ 2.0

Mongrels can have blue eyes and blonde hair but they can never look White.

It's called having eyes and at least rudimentary pattern recognition capabilities, freaking babies can do it, you spatially retarded kike.

It is very important to post phenotypes with examples, since morphs are rather inaccurate.

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Will post more, someday. When I am not too lazy.

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Weird that posts ITT are saying Nordic folks are exemples of Aryan phenotypes when I thought that Scandi people are actually pre-Aryan Europeans. Someone who knows more, help this make sense.

"Man" and "child" refer to people, user.

pre-Aryan is bullshit based on people who look haplogroup maps and create their whole opinion upon this
They have very low IQ and have not researched enough to know anything or they have some reasons to hate other Europeans or Aryans as a group
there are no people without Aryan admixture in Europe, except niggers
all North-Europeans are somewhere 40-60% Aryan by DNA

Ethnicity comes from Greek 'ethnos' which means "multitude", "group", or "nation" and is related to Greek 'ethos' which means "character", "customs", or "beliefs". So an ethnicity can be any of those you listed, as well as others such as religion. For example, jews are an ethno-religious group. English speakers are an ethno-linguistic group, as are all Germanic language speaking people.

There were people living in Europe before the Aryans invaded, and some groups survived. Their descendents are still around to this day.

admixture does not say that.
there are no isolated groups
they probably got their phenotype because some traits will just become more dominant in some populations, not related to direct ancestry

Doesn't matter if all jews are gone.

This

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That is jewish lie, of course. That part of the skull from Stalin's drawer and later Russias archive was found out to be part of woman skull.
So you are lying jew or just brainwashed moron who believe jewish media and their propaganda.
Also, Neolitic farmer is G and J. E is North African hamnitic nigger.

Phenotype IS race.
But agree, jews are shiling with D&C, anons shouldnt fall for that simple trick.

This.
But, I see Caucasian race more as Caucasian species. I am for sure not the same race as Hamnites, semites or Indians.
For me, distinct Europid race (subspecies) exist. And in the Europid race, Mediterranids, Alpinids, Nordids, etcetra, are subraces.
There is even stronger stance. Europids being separate species, and Semites, Hamnites and others being hybrids (mongrels).

I keep getting called a Jew, am I white?

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okay good now time to just screenshot this thread and use it as basically an anti-"you're not white" tool.

Thanks anons.

get rid of that fruity haircut you fucking faggot.
buzzcut or Furhercut.

otherwise good

- op

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you capitalize the word jew so I'd say probably juden

You would be nice Tronder without jew grandpa. Now you are ashkenazi. Sorry. not really

Are you worried your stomach is jewish?

E-V13 can be found in small quantities all over Europe. It's almost definitely neolithic farmer related. The V13 clade is almost exclusively found in Europe.