Trump gave answers to Mueller that mole Manafort lied about

Manafort held secret talks with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy
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They're playing a bit fast and loose with the dates, but it's more than enough to perpetuate the narrative. I dare say it's enough to be actionable.

Wild assed guess… 20% Trump will bother to run in 2020. DNC/Judenpresse/Dem committees are going to buttfuck his agenda in the meanwhile.

The way in which this came down suggests that, from the beginning, Manafort made his plea not in an effort to reduce his sentence, but as a way to curry favor with Trump.

Manafort plea deal may have started as a set up for Robert Mueller … and ended as a trap for Trump

This positions Manafort to face higher penalties for his original charges and additional penalties based on misleading the investigation in the weeks since he made his plea. It also opens the possibility that Donald Trump will pardon Manafort—a possibility that was underlined by Trump’s actions over the last day. Put together, there’s a real sense that this was the intention all along: Send in Manafort to distract and mislead the investigation with Trump holding out the promise of a Get Away With It All deal should his campaign manager be caught.

But there’s more to it then just Manafort being unable to find the off button on his lies. The way this is playing out suggests there’s another angle: One in which Manafort and Trump were together all along in hopes of upsetting the special counsel investigation. Except this dirty trick may be backfiring


Everything about the Manafort deal seems to scream that Manafort meant to lie from the outset. It also seems to show that Mueller knew Manafort was likely to be less than honest when he agreed to a deal. Because of course he was. Paul Manafort’s entire life consists of lying, cheating, and getting away with it.

The way in which this came down suggests that, from the beginning, Manafort made his plea not in an effort to reduce his sentence, but as a way to curry favor with Trump.

Here’s how that might have gone:

1. Manafort agrees to a plea deal, promising to tell all. However, what Manafort tells doesn’t just stop short of “all,” it includes deliberate lies and omissions.

2. In addition to giving Mueller a sanitized version of events, Manafort reports back to Trump on what the investigation is asking him, providing invaluable prep as Trump determines his own actions.

3. At the same time, Donald Trump is preparing to answer a set of written questions from Robert Mueller’s team. He delays and delays on providing these answers because … because he’s waiting for his inside man to reassure him that the special counsel has swallowed the “official” version of what happened hook, line, and sinker.

4. Reassured by Manafort that he has sold Mueller’s team on a carefully edited version of the “truth,” Trump turns in his homework.

5. And it’s only after Mueller has Trump’s answers in hand, that he marches Manafort back into court and reveals that he knew the campaign manager was lying all along. Now Mueller doesn’t just have Manafort on record lying, he has written proof that Manafort and Trump were conspiring again to deceive and misdirect the investigation.

Maybe this version gives Mueller too much credit. Maybe there was no scheme between Trump and Manafort. But it certainly looks at this point as if Robert Mueller opened up a door marked “one last chance to demonstrate who you are” and both Trump and Manafort hurried in.

dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/27/1815497/-Manafort-plea-deal-may-have-started-as-a-set-up-for-Robert-Mueller-and-ended-as-a-trap-for-Trump

The desperation is palpable. Lots of fast and loose, might, maybe, how it could have happened, and what if going on in this thread right now. There have also been rumors that Mueller's final report will contain nothing legally actionable, but Trump won't be able to avoid the "political fallout" from it, which would ultimately do nothing but give his detractors more reason to stonewall his agenda further.

Manafort, Assange held secret talks in Ecuadorian Embassy
Months after Manafort met with Assange, WikiLeaks released a trove of emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee by Russian intelligence officers.

thehill.com/homenews/administration/418407-manafort-held-secret-talks-with-assange-in-ecuadorian-embassy

A separate internal document written by Ecuador’s Senain intelligence agency and seen by the Guardian lists “Paul Manaford [sic]” as one of several well-known guests. It also mentions “Russians”.

According to two sources, Manafort returned to the embassy in 2015. He paid another visit in spring 2016, turning up alone, around the time Trump named him as his convention manager. The visit is tentatively dated to March.

It pretty well affirms what we’ve sort of known since the beginning. There was almost no way that Trump could employ Manafort as campaign director, and not be colluding with Russia in doing so. Everything Manafort did in some way involved the Russians and Russian goals.

He has decided to give Manafort, Corsi, and Stone pardons, and anybody else as needed. After all, if he pardons Manafort, why not all the rest? He is already 60 disapproval That probably goes to 70% with any pardons and it really doesn’t matter if he pardons 1 or 100.

Basically, I’m saying this is the end game. Part of that end game must involve firing Mueller. And Trump is looking at a ticking clock with the Dems being seated in control of the house in just over a month. Shit gets real now.

A wall is just a big door if legal immigration doesn't stop.

So? Trump pardons Manafort, resigns at the right time, Pence pardons Trump, ballgame over. Yeah, state charges, but we’re talking about federal ones here. Plus, that double jeopardy thing complicates things, and Trump will do all he can to drag those out and obstruct them.

Say it with me pol,
PRESIDENT PENCE

President Mike "Israel should dictate US policy" Pence.

He could resign at any time, most likely after either losing reelection in 2020 or at the end of his 2nd term if he wins, in 2024. At either point he’s be a lame duck president so no real power given up, and he’ll do anything to avoid federal prison. And by then the governors of NY & VA might be Repubs, who’d pardon him of state charges. They’re planning this out way in advance, just like Mueller. And I fear that Mueller’s by the book no exceptions allowed MO will doom him in the end. He doesn’t want to create prosecutorial precedents that might be abused someday.

Our political and legal systems are extremely “conservative” when it comes to going after people of money and power.

Obama was a willing part of that moral corruption, by going after Siegelman but refusing to go after torturers and banksters. The governors of both NY & VA are likely running for president and probably don’t want to rock the boat too much. Manafort might go to state prison, but Trump pays no practical price.

At this point I think our most realistic goal is to remove Trump and the GOP electorally in 2020 and destroy both for years to come. Sure, go for just legal outcomes too, just don’t expect much. The political path is the most promising one.

Power and money tend to win. The NY Democratic party is deeply corrupt.