Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery

Isaac Stewart
Isaac Stewart

What do socialists think about Eckart and Feder's view on interest? You must realize that interest is the biggest tool of the bourgeoisie. You may hate Nazis but I insist that you read Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery by Gottfried Feder.

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Oliver Rivera
Oliver Rivera

Feder was a pretty based guy, shame Hitler felt he wasn't experienced enough to run the bank and he got shoved into a University job.

Liam Ross
Liam Ross

Sorry but Schacht was just a better pick. I don't think he deserved such a harsh relegation but anyway

Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

Schacht was a literal piece of trash if not for his experience in the previous government but what else could Hitler do in a world where the German Empire and Weimar Republic both still held the reins of Germany.

Aiden Perry
Aiden Perry

Schacht saved Germany from economic collapse twice. Once before the nazis took power and once after

Jacob Robinson
Jacob Robinson

I have been reading a lot of stuff recently, about how the British only ended slavery around the world because they wanted to sell people steam powered machines to do the slaves jobs.
What we thought was kind abolitionists helping people were actually trying to con the slave niggers out of their jobs.

Chase Morales
Chase Morales

Schacht did so but that doesn't excuse the fact that his views ranged from capitalist to outright Anti-Natsoc. He fought more with Hitler than Feder did. Like I said Hitler probably knew Schacht was the safest most beneficial pick but taking more risks would have saved them.

Gavin Mitchell
Gavin Mitchell

Source? Interesting indeed

Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

I have it on another computer. Including a wemb I saved off here.
I should be able to post it later.

Wyatt Campbell
Wyatt Campbell

He should've put Feder on the helm with Schacht on an advisory role

Kevin Long
Kevin Long

true, NSDAP was only Socialist in name after that debacle.

Wyatt Wright
Wyatt Wright

Eh, I personally wouldn't take it that far as much as I'd say it went on a rapid decline afterwords.

Anthony Johnson
Anthony Johnson

Will you have it?

Aaron Thomas
Aaron Thomas

I have no idea who OP's authors are, but having read a great deal of Michael Hudson's writings and Graeber's Debt book, I would have to agree that compound interest is the greatest scam in human history and everyone would benefit if we made usury a capital offense. It wouldn't get rid of capitalism of course, but by returning the central focus of class war back to its source in industrial exploitation it should make organizing more effective again.

Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

OP here
Eckart and Feder were early nazis. They laid solid bedrock for the ideology

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

Dude based Fascists XD

John Ramirez
John Ramirez

No you see the Nazi's were anti-ML and raycis fashyys even though both fascists and Natsocs agree they're two different things like ancoms are different from ML's so we should treat them, all as if they never said anything of value.

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Juan Smith
Juan Smith

Whoops I forget I have sage set permeantly sometimes.

Elijah Lopez
Elijah Lopez

Remember that England ended slavery within its own borders centuries before the rest of Europe, due to a decree by William the Conqueror (I'm unaware of any documentation as to his motivation for doing so), which historians widely credit with playing a crucial part in Britain's central role when the Industrial Revolution happened.

Gabriel Martinez
Gabriel Martinez

NatSocs and Fascists call themselves different things
So they are

Ayden Stewart
Ayden Stewart

The central point that economically oriented abolitionists made in opposing slavery was the fact that slavery is not actually economically beneficial, either for society or for owners, in an industrial economy.

They fall under the same fascist category, but Mussolini's fascism wasn't identical to Hitler's.

Joseph Young
Joseph Young

Natsocs put emphasis on race and more anti capitalist politics than other fascists did, along with social issues, and realized that not everything in society could be justifiably kept as tradition like smoking or killing animals aimlessly.
But they were both authoritarians
So they're not

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Lucas Carter
Lucas Carter

I don't really care about the classic nazism position on abortion; I judge based on today's nazis position on abortion:

"Ban abortions for white women; expand abortions for every other women"

Today's nazis are obsessed with "muh white race"; they don't give a shit about class struggle. Why should I give a shit about their spooked cause? I couldn't care less about the survival of their race or pretty much any other race. I don't give a shit what will future humans look like; only /pol/faggots do.

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

I don't really care about the classic nazism position on abortion; I judge based on today's nazis position on abortion
See, there's you're problem, you're talking about modern day alt right larpers pretending to know about Nazism while supporting Trump, white supremacist capitalists, and Neo Nazi's which are pretty much white gang members using the Nazi image to keep themselves from splitting apart on /pol/ none of which have to do with actual Natsocs.

Tyler Cook
Tyler Cook

more anti capitalist politics
KEK

actual Natsocs
Who?

Colton Brown
Colton Brown

KEK
Using shitty /pol/ lingo.
Not even Jej or proper substitutes
Who?
A lot of people, literally takes a few seconds to find on Google.

Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

thinks kek is from /pol/ instead of Warcraft
lol idunno, Google
Fuck off.

Juan Nguyen
Juan Nguyen

spoonfeed me please
Maybe later.
Implying anyone using Kek in 2019 is a Warcraft player and not some kid from /pol/.

Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

make my argument for me

Blake Rogers
Blake Rogers

I still use it as an equivalent to lel, user.

Just because the media is obsessed with finding secret nazi tells doesn't make every meme /pol/tards also like nazishit.

Ryder Taylor
Ryder Taylor

Put enpthasis on race
To the degree it was politically worthwhile
The definition of "Muh Aryan Master race" changed dozens of times as alliances changed
More Anti-Capitalist policies
LMAO No

Literally "Nazi's were Anti-Capitalists cuz they said so"
Calls others /pol/

Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

The definition of "Muh Aryan Master race" changed dozens of times as alliances changed
It was expandable in term, but if you care to elaborate in the sense that it literally changed definition go ahead.
But I mean't Mussolini openly wanted blacks to be a part of society, Hitler preferred for ethnostates to be a major part of the new world. Such is why he planned on allying with Native Americans.
LMAO No
Just because socialism means "When the government does things." To you ML's doesn't mean it's the real definition for anyone who isn't a ML. :^)

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Isaiah Cook
Isaiah Cook

uhm actually hitler was vegan so he was anti capitalist and /ourguy/ XD

David Roberts
David Roberts

Zig Forums is one person
I mean I know /leftypol/ is:^)so you must be confused, but we aren't. I don't speak for everyone.

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Carson Martinez
Carson Martinez

You truly are the master of deflection.

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

makes post mocking me
acts as if I'm deflecting
???

Brandon Foster
Brandon Foster

I like that you use the Youtube flag, it makes it easier to ignore your consistently awful posts.

Asher White
Asher White

Good. If you want to filter me go ahead. It's better than needlessly posting back and forth.

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

It was expandable in term, but if you care to elaborate in the sense that it literally changed definition go ahead.
Slavs=Subhuman
Oh except Croats / Slovaks they = Aryan
Tibetans are actually Aryans and ancient Germans because they allied with Japan
Etc
Just because socialism means "When the government does things." To you ML's doesn't mean it's the real definition for anyone who isn't a ML. :^)
No even by SocialDemocratic standards he was a raging Capitalist who privatised various industries and allied with the biggest industrialists in the nation

Brandon Hall
Brandon Hall

Slavs=Subhuman Oh except Croats /Slovaks they = Aryan Tibetans are actually Aryans and ancient Germans because they allied with Japan Etc
Yeah Hitler also said the Swiss were subhuman and he was right. I think you took a bit of quotes out of context there but that aside:
No even by SocialDemocratic standards he was a raging Capitalist who privatised various industries
Look, I'm not trying to antagonize you, believe it or not, this discussion right here, the one were having right now, I don't consider it an argument so I'm not going to directly point this out and embarrass you.
Look at what you just said here.
Look at what I said last time I replied to you and then ask yourself what's wrong with what you just said.
and allied with the biggest industrialists in the nation
And the USSR received funding from wall street and many statesmen like Lenin or Trotsky had met with bourgeoisie before the revolution from the US and Germany. Rich people will get involved no matter what in all political groups, this is like saying you're supporting capitalism by using phones and computers made by capitalists.

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Hunter Gutierrez
Hunter Gutierrez

Some capitalists wanted influence in Russia and donated money to whatever political faction they thought was winning. The donations, however, were not at all comparable to Hitler handing over entire industries to private people.
Getting money from capitalists=/=giving money to capitalists. You understand this difference right?

Sort of related Zizek video.
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Joshua Robinson
Joshua Robinson

Now that you have admitted being a Nazi, can you please go back to /pol/ and leave us alone?

Nicholas Powell
Nicholas Powell

the capitalists donated at random
Not at all they explicitly targeted the USSR.
Hitler handing over entire industries to private people
Privatization/public/state owner ship issue's aren't what dictate socialism. Even most socialists have admitted that this is the case when claiming the Nazi's weren't socialists due to capitalists accusing them as such so they could get "Morality" points from the 20 million.

Adam Morris
Adam Morris

Not at all they explicitly targeted the USSR.
Which donations are you talking about here? I was asuming you were talking about the Chase Bank donations, who also donated to Bolshevik enemies in the provisional government before Bolsheviks took power.
Privatization/public/state owner ship issue's aren't what dictate socialism
So then what is, fellow socialist?

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

this may just be noble lore but I remember it being said that the king woke up one day and walked to the balcony and upon breathing the air he decided that the air was so pure that only free men could breath it and so that ended slavery

I remember that if a slave on a ship was docked in an english port they would be free
I don’t know how correct that is i just thought it was funny because it brought on the industrial revolution

Brandon Campbell
Brandon Campbell

ford sold a fleet of tractors and other farming equipment to the soviets because they didn’t have any industrial means of crop growth

Levi Fisher
Levi Fisher

when the government does things
lol

Wyatt Johnson
Wyatt Johnson

How exactly is that news? That's exactly why northern capital had mixed feelings on slavery rather than wholly accept it. A slaver society has no room for railroads or telegraphs, because slaves cart it around with oxen.

It's exactly why the north wanted the transcontinental railroad, while the south wanted a road. In the modern day it drives the car vs train debate and is why the Empire Builder and California Zephyr are both much better funded than the Texas Eagle and Sunset Limited.

Juan King
Juan King

Nigger

Wyatt Campbell
Wyatt Campbell

ford sold
Capitalists do capitalism! Alert the media.

Nathaniel Campbell
Nathaniel Campbell

loses the argument over capitalists funding the USSR
tries to meme out of the argument about the nature of socialism
Don't you faggots get tired of losing to tankies?

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Gavin Parker
Gavin Parker

I think he was mocking me, guy.
Also don't let Jim catch you with that pic.
So then what is, fellow socialist?
The anti capitalist mode of production which follows in removal of capitalist aspects.

Landon Green
Landon Green

I think he was mocking me, guy.
In my defense, Poe's Law.

Also don't let Jim catch you with that pic.
God, what has become of the chans? Wish I could turn back time to the good old days.

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Aiden Miller
Aiden Miller

God, what has become of the chans? Wish I could turn back time to the good old days.
To be fair it was mostly always like this, the closest you could get away with was posting Natalie Portman from Leon the Pedophile.

Ian Barnes
Ian Barnes

That's not how I remember it. JB was on every board at all times back in the day. Of course, that was before the Google Captcha.

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Jayden Murphy
Jayden Murphy

Jim deleted most boards for it and banned any sfw pictures. I assume 4Chan and the others did so too before Jim even got in power. You get two years of it being passable then it gets banned.

Dominic Carter
Dominic Carter

The anti capitalist mode of production which follows in removal of capitalist aspects.
Took you a full day to come up with that nonsense sentence?
What is the "anti capitalist mode of production"? lol

Andrew Gonzalez
Andrew Gonzalez

Jim
Oh, I am talking about long before Zig Forums's 2014 birth. Old 4chan was five years dead by then. The girl in this pic is in her late-twenties now, probably older than most of the posters here now that I think about it. Damn.

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Jeremiah Taylor
Jeremiah Taylor

it took you a whole day
There's this thing called sleep.
It exists. Try it sometimes.
what's the anti capitalist mode of production.
Being against capitalist tendencies, things like improvement of working conditions, proper return for labor, things like that.
What did you think it was?
In one year most people who were original fags on 4chan will probably be 40-50.

Adam Parker
Adam Parker

things like improvement of working conditions, proper return for labor, things like that.
This obviously has nothing to do with modes of production. Don't say marxist sounding words if you don't know what they mean, it makes you look very stupid.

William Watson
William Watson

Well, they follow from the mode of production, so they do have something to do with it even if theydo not define it.

Colton Price
Colton Price

things like improvement of working conditions
Has been happening throughout capitalism and is clearly also a benefit for the capitalist in the long run.
proper return for labor
Meaningless. Proper would be 100% minus tax. But when people scream for proper wages, they point to scandinavia, which is capitalist.
So yeah, these "anti-capitalist tendencies" are clearly capitalist tendencies too.

Wyatt Taylor
Wyatt Taylor

So what's your definition of socialism then?

John Anderson
John Anderson

Public ownership of the means of production through democratic centralism.

Ian Watson
Ian Watson

That's anarcho communism.

Ayden Morgan
Ayden Morgan

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Daniel Barnes
Daniel Barnes

Fuck you faggots. I came to this board to see how Feder feeds into the socialist world view and you mentione it once and argue about unrelated shit

Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

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Jose Jenkins
Jose Jenkins

who cares about some nazbol shit lmao

Brayden Collins
Brayden Collins

It isn't nationalistic in writing in any way or form. It has a swastika because it was a Nazi author and later a Nazi policy. But his point is still 100% valid

Easton Nelson
Easton Nelson

who cares about some nazi author lmao

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