Let me preface this by saying I am a proud white man and I support white ethnostates. I also support national socialism. But I have questions about the holocaust and speeches made by German officials.
On 30 January 1939, Hitler said in a speech
on 30 January 1942, Hitler said
In 1943 Goebbels published an article entitled "The War and the Jews" which stated:
In the Posen speeches of October 1943 such as the one on October 4, Himmler explicitly referred to the extermination of the Jews of Europe and further stated that the genocide must be permanently kept secret:
I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, to the extermination of the Jewish people.
What am I to make of this? Am I to believe that the speeches are fakes?
Believe me, I hate the Jews. I hate what they are doing to the West. But I have real questions about these speeches and their implications. I know that the so called gas chamber doors were bullshit and that the death toll has been changed over the years. I know the lampshades and soap is bullshit. But what of these speeches?
If you call me a Jew and sage me then you are just ignoring real questions. The holocaust should be questioned openly and its so called evidence should be dismantled logically and rationally.
Just think about it this way: Were the Injuns "destroyed"? They were forced off the land and resettled elsewhere, effectively ending their threat to the settlers. Their lives were not ended, but their culture and traditions pretty much died. That was very close to what was being planned in jewrys case imo. There also was violence against some of them who didn't want to go along with the resettlement plan.
Tyler Barnes
That makes sense but what about these lines?
Liam Hernandez
It is the point which I just made, If organized jewry was smashed, jewish cultural traditions dying/outlawed, coupled with jewish assimilation (Nuremberg laws), would that not count as "annihilation"? It is the same concept that goes into the saying "white genocide". No one is saying whites are literally being machinegunned in the streets, but that European culture is dying and being replaced, and that Whites are assimilating into the racially foreign masses in our countries.
Aaron Peterson
Also coupled with the fact that the non assimilationist jews emigrating away from Europe.
Jonathan Long
Fair enough, I accept that's a decent explanation. But Himmler said the extermination of Jews. That's pretty clear language.
Jace Fisher
Guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Gotta get some sleep now.
Mason Lee
When people discover the Jewish means of existence and why they are being thrown into prison camps and so forth, the resulting fury of the masses would destroy the Jews. It's extremely common in history, and for the National Socialists there was only one option aside from mass executions to placate the horrified and enraged German volk: expulsion. Which is exactly what they did. Extermination, the word, literally means to drive out from a border. Exterminators don't kill most of their pests, but drive them out of a house or area. The conflation of extermination with annihilation is made worse because of the holocaust mythology, and keep in mind that in translating from German there will be instances of word substitution that make the speaker sound more like whatever the translator wants them to sound like. Go look up the original German of it and dissect the word itself to see if it has the connotation of annihilation or more of expulsion. Another case of that is Herrenvolk is the word that has been popularly translated as "Master Race", but in German Herr is more like gentleman or sir, and instances of the Herrenvolk meant more like a gentlemanly people, not slavers. The word for slave is Sklaven, which is never used in instances of Master Race translations.
As far as I know, out of those four, his is the only one that was given in private and actually fits with the Holocaust conspiracy theory, but the flamboyant language he used wasn't as damning as they present it. If you asked the average Holocaust promoter, they'd tell you that David Irving was the first person to ever dispute the meaning of "ausrottung" in history, but Alfred Rosenberg did so at Nuremberg.
A. I do not need a foreign dictionary in order to explain what various meanings in the German language the word "Ausrottung" may have. One can exterminate an idea, an economic system, a social order and, as a final consequence, also a group of human beings, certainly. Those are the many possibilities which are contained in that word. For that I do not need an English-German dictionary. Translations from German into English are so often wrong. For example, in that last document you have submitted to me, I heard again the translation of "Herrenrasse." In the document itself "Herrenrasse" is not even mentioned, however, there is the term "ein falsches; Herrenmenschentum" (a false master mankind). Apparently everything is translated here in another sense. A. Then, may I perhaps say something about the use of the words here? We are speaking here of extermination of Jewry; there is also still a difference between Jewry and individual Jews. archive.is/xBm62
Why didn't you provide primary sources for all those quotes? Surely you knew that they would be requested.
Most of these speak of the extermination of the Jewish race in terms of White people becoming anti semitic and taking matters into their own hands once they see what the Jewish people have brought on to them, in the form of the war theyy forced on the German people. For example, He talks of anti semitism spreading, why would the spread of anti semitism have any impact on the supposed genocide of Jews within the German state?
And again, He speaks as if this is a force outside of his control, as in non Jewish people wiping out Jewish people when anti semitism has spread.
Finally, nothing in the last quote implies he is talking about a supposed order to exterminate Jews. If there is more to the quote that is missing, I would be happy to see it.
Honestly I'm surprised that these are the worst qoutes you can find, not very convincing I'm my opinion.
