Elizabeth Warren discussion thread

Jeremiah Stewart
Jeremiah Stewart

Is Elizabeth Warren the best 2020 democratic candidate so far?

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Carson Rodriguez
Carson Rodriguez

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Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

Imagine claiming that a neoliberal on steroids is leftpol approved.

The closest thing to be /ourgal/ would be Tulsi Gabbard; and she's Israel's bitch.

Samuel Allen
Samuel Allen

She’s a roastie

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

Literally a Shillary KKKlinton puppet

David Flores
David Flores

electoralism
Stop

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Owen Brown
Owen Brown

REEEEE
BERNIE WOULD HAVE WON

Grayson Richardson
Grayson Richardson

She didn't support Sanders against Clinton when he actually had a shot against her, because she wanted an office or post in the ruling Democratic party under President Clinton.
She's a fucking opportunist.

Elijah Ortiz
Elijah Ortiz

Senator from Raytheon's home state of Massachusetts who loves defense projects.

Tyler Allen
Tyler Allen

The consensus here seems to be that warren is no good. What about kirsten gillibrand?

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

This. She is only joining the race to split the "leftist"/progressive vote and will drop out when Bernie quits. She's basically running to be someone's VP.

Ryder Morris
Ryder Morris

campaign website is literally just pictures of her with her family

Juan Evans
Juan Evans

Probably the only one who demonstrates something resembling competence in the whole field, but I shan't bother voting for her in a primary unless she goes full tankie or something.

Elijah Torres
Elijah Torres

Absolutely this, just like Barbara Boxer before turning traitor during the primaries, I thought she was "one of the good ones" back then. Never forgive, never forget.

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Luis Jones
Luis Jones

the “MeToo” candidate
Even worse than Warren.

Logan Hernandez
Logan Hernandez

What would 'the best' (or 'good') even mean in the context of yank prez elections?
The one who improves workers' lives the most? The one who's most likely to bring revolution? The one who popularizes leftist ideas the most? The one who is most likely to let other countries develop along the dialectic? The one who makes you feel warm and fuzzy the most?

Mason Adams
Mason Adams

What would 'the best' (or 'good') even mean in the context of yank prez elections?
Rocks fall. Everybody dies.

Tyler Bennett
Tyler Bennett

She was memed by Trump into giving 23andme free advertising. She's a brainlet.
Warren
socdem
You're clinical.

Noah Ramirez
Noah Ramirez

The one who improves workers' lives the most?
Obama eroded union power permanently.
The one who's most likely to bring revolution?
A lot of leftoids fell for this meme with Trump (and Reagan, and Nixon) – it doesn't happen. Revolution is much more likely under a liberal than a conservative.
The one who popularizes leftist ideas the most?
Probably
The one who is most likely to let other countries develop along the dialectic?The one who is most likely to let other countries develop along the dialectic?
Presidents who try this get fucked by the Military Industrial Complex, "Progressive" Media, shit-eating faggots who pass for left, and ☘️neocons☘️
The one who makes you feel warm and fuzzy the most?
t. Rachel Maddow

Jordan Cooper
Jordan Cooper

What would 'the best' (or 'good') even mean in the context of yank prez elections?
Revolutionary Marxist who combines electoral work with revolutionary work
The one who improves workers' lives the most?
Yes
The one who's most likely to bring revolution?
Yes
The one who popularizes leftist ideas the most?
Yes
The one who is most likely to let other countries develop along the dialectic?
Yes
The one who makes you feel warm and fuzzy the most?
Liberal garbage

Tyler Sullivan
Tyler Sullivan

Warren is an embarrassment. Andrew Yang is an actual porky running for president and even he has a better explanation of the economy (materialism) than she does.
states outright that the basic economic structure has to change long term
thinks UBI is necessary as a stopgap measure to avoid collapse from automation but is just a bandaid
ties Trump's success not to racism but to the loss of manufacturing jobs in swing states
thinks medicare for all is an absolute necessity (even if his reason is that it's easier to start a business if you don't have to pay for healthcare)
identifies the issue with major economic problem as being that people don't have the ability to just go do the work (even if it's framed as "starting a business")
warns that failure to meet the workers' needs will lead to direct action, specifically highlights truckers blocking highways
says he'd pardon every low-level drug offender
All of this is more or less basic shit almost everyone agrees on but Warren can't say because it's haram for career politicians to go there.

He was just on Joe Rogan's podcast:
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It's fascinating to hear how much he gets and simultaneously how much he misses. Unlike Zucc or someone who'd just piss people off, he could potentially do like Bernie did and affect political discourse. Rogan has a lot of porkies on, but this guy is actually interesting because instead of just spouting talking points he tries to grapple with reality and it reveals a lot about the porky mindset and its limits.

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Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

Don't just say yes to a bunch of definitions for the same word.

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

This guy sounds like a literal Dengist.

Henry Edwards
Henry Edwards

Remember to do you best to avoid responding to b8, and to sage if you can't help yourself.

Josiah Cruz
Josiah Cruz

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Mr. Yang on Sam Harris podcast talking about UBI.

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Hudson Jones
Hudson Jones

UBI is neoliberal trash and the number of leftoids who fall for it is embarrassing.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

She's a new deal liberal who wants to reduce poverty & inequality, and her foreign policy instincts aren't super aggressive. She's not a socialist but I'd probably vote for her if she got the nomination and I think her heart's in the right place.

I'm still backing Gabbard in the primary if Sanders doesn't run again, and electoralism is a dead end anyway.

Nicholas Cruz
Nicholas Cruz

Just watched the vid.
Pros for this guy being POTUS
you’ll get $1,000 a month
free healthcare
legal weed
all non-violent drug offenders will be pardoned
anti-idpol
Cons
no free collage
believes in “muh small business”
thinks Russiagate is real
wants to gut traditional (not-UBI) welfare
UBI is neoliberal trash and the number of leftoids who fall for it is embarrassing.
No one supports UBI because they think it’s a solution to anything, people (myself included) support it because they want free money.

Jonathan Reed
Jonathan Reed

Warren talks big but never actually does anything. She would be worse for the Amerifat left than Obama was.

Aiden Sanchez
Aiden Sanchez

You are correct. I mentioned it because it's his signature issue and he agrees that it's not a solution, just a temporary treatment at best.

He won't be president, but it's gonna be interesting to see how people respond to what he says.

Jace Wright
Jace Wright

He won't be president, but it's gonna be interesting to see how people respond to what he says.
If all the corporations support him I won’t support him. If the reverse happens I’ll vote for him. At this point I just wanna see Bezos suffer.

Colton Cruz
Colton Cruz

We don't need any more pigs in government. It's fucking baffling how anyone supports this guy.

Aaron Long
Aaron Long

At this point I just wanna see Bezos suffer.
lel

Devil's advocate - there are traitors to the bourgeois class (Engels). I agree he's shit, I just thought it was funny that even though he's a capitalist par excellence he's promoting better policies than the "radical" or "savior" promoted by the Democrats. This is the state of burger politics.

Carson Nguyen
Carson Nguyen

he’s against free collage and wants to gut non-UBI welfare. He also thinks that instead of going to collage kids should just start small business. He’s a centrist, one who is well read, but still a centrist. But because he’s willing to give Singlepayer healthcare I’d still vote for him if he wins. Private healthcare is so shit, that most people would probably vote for a fascist if they had single payer in their platform.

Bentley White
Bentley White

he’s against free collage and wants to gut non-UBI welfare.
implying they won't just eliminate all welfare and then fail to pass UBI

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Camden Wright
Camden Wright

Is Large Dick Liz the only candidate to propose a tax on wealth?

Colton James
Colton James

Gutting welfare and replacing it with UBI could be an improvement depending on how much the UBI is, just saying.
He’s a centrist,
Bruh you need to stop thinking of politics as a spectrum. What matters are questions of policy/procedure - how to run things. Sure you could plot him in the center but that erases what makes him interesting as a sideshow and part of the ecology of the discourse. If Sanders proved only one thing it's that people respond overwhelmingly well to actual policy positions and not posturing on the political spectrum. His numbers are good with people across the burger "spectrum."
But because he’s willing to give Singlepayer healthcare I’d still vote for him if he wins.
He won't win. UBI aside he speaks in ways that are absolutely haram to the parties. You can't have a politician with a national platform putting ideas in workers' heads like "truck drivers can just block the highways if we don't give them what they want." I would put money down that he'll be barred from debates even after the Joe Rogan bump to his poll numbers.
Private healthcare is so shit, that most people would probably vote for a fascist if they had single payer in their platform.
Fascism makes the trains run on time. But the train is going to Auschwitz.

This would be correct but
implying anyone who's pro-UBI will get anywhere (for now)
This guy might put enough pressure in to give the idea legs, but that's about it.

Liam Parker
Liam Parker

It doesn't matter what he says, he's a porky.

Justin Bennett
Justin Bennett

lol no

Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

You can't have a politician with a national platform putting ideas in workers' heads like "truck drivers can just block the highways if we don't give them what they want."
He only mentioned it as saying "it’s this or UBI, and UBI won’t fully solve it.”
His numbers are good with people across the burger "spectrum.”
Because the burger spectrum only factors in social issues, not economic ones. You could be a commie, but if you don’t like gays your right-wing, and if you like gays, but love the free market than your considered “left.”

John Parker
John Parker

Cons
no free collage
I must have misunderstood, I thought he was for free college or at least for severely reducing the student debt or something like that, I shouldn't listen to those stuff while high.

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

Is Large Dick Liz the only candidate to propose a tax on wealth?
no

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Kayden Thomas
Kayden Thomas

YANG ZHUXI WAN SUI

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