What is your opinion of Freemasonry?
I've seen it discussed and brought up frequently on many threads.
They seem like an innocuous group of mostly old people that meets together every month and donates to charity. Can someone redpill me on what the big deal is?
Research it for yourself stupid nigger. I can save you a whole lot of time by just telling you to research the Counter-Initiation. They have been behind all rebellious ideas and revolutions against Western Traditionalism since its inception.
Its a very effect escape hatch. It allows boomers not to name the jew and its another one of the many ways millennials can attack "old white men"
vanguardnewsnetwork.com
This is THE most redpilled content one can find on the freemasons.
The TLDR is that it's Jewish as fuck
they either are all compromised, or might as well be compromised
initiates almost always don't know any better, and are usually harmless
oh, and also, its kiked
If you can't beat the jews, why not join them?
They are as bad as Jews and sometimes worse.
Same slides every week. Kill yourself jew.
cool it with the antisemitic remarks my fellow white man, it's bad optics
Other way around. They infiltrated and took it over. Masons aren't as popular anymore because of the kikery and membership is down.
Die niggerjew, die.
omg WTF that is straight up hate speech
where's the downvote button on this website?
funnily enough I dreamt of masons last night, how they would take a classroom to a room with a proyector showing shocking images with screams and metal in the background
are you for real
Where the hell are all these new fags coming from? Freemasonry? Are you serious dude?
the order is overall a net positive asset to the society as whole
everything it does furthers the ideas we need like revering architects and engineers
based and redipilled
Only the truth of it matters. Useful idiot freemasons might try to convince you otherwise.
Found the masonic astroturfer.
Good one kike, they worship lucifer for fuck sake, how in the hell could that be good? Any good NatSoc will hate them deeply for that, and for how kiked masonry as a whole is.
Read Mystery of the Grail by Evola.
Go to a lodge and ask them. They are relatively friendly.
classic nu/pol/ fagot thread
The old anons know this board a glownigger honeypot, but try to make your shill threads slightly less obvious to the goyim brother, many of them are new here.
Oh and Hannah and the twins say hello to you, Rebecca and the children. Happy Hannukah & Mazel Tov!
Why are you even replying faggot? >What is bait?
Merry Christmas.
I don't reply, I make you jump.
A buncha old fucks and kikes fucking little boys in the ass, trying to seek immortality from buggering.
Well ya known they just happen to be at the top of the Jewish pyramid and are responsible for every major war post 1900s and want to institute a global NWO and want to genocide all white people.
No biggie really. Take your schizo pills GOY
Judeo-Masonry is BASED. TRS did a whole podcast about it, you purity-spiralling 1488ers.
just another proxy used by the ones in charge to maintain the status quo.
No different to the pagan orders of Jupiter or the Temple if Isis.
The low tier ones don't know what's going on so they have the whole road to hell and good intentions thing going on, like the priests in the temples.
The top tier do what men in power often do, get drunk off of it and have ritualistic orgies (all based of genuine Babylonian sex magic) like the Vatican and the old pagan orders used to do.
Nothing's new under the Sun, it's why they look like they have existed throughout history when in reality it's a bunch of tryhards who think to seek all knowledge without wisdom thanks to the words of some primitive guy in Babylon from over 4000 years ago who was a huge fan of all the sex going on in his decaying empire.
They are the reason Jimmy Saville got away with ass raping downs kids for 40 years.
They worship Lucifer.
They ARE jews, they feature the star of david on the outside of the lodge usually, no secret.
Their mystery schools are nothing more than the teachings the jews were ran out of Spain for.
If you are a mason you take an oath to never testify against a brother mason, for this alone they deserve life imprisonment if not death.
they got some nifty symbols and fancy carpets
They are goyim trying to be jews.
Do you have a working link to that?
I am pleased to see that you are taking the bi-monthly survey of Zig Forums's user base again. The last thread was productive but this one seems to be shaping up as shit tier thread.
1. I am really disappointed that an institution that could make changes for the greater good of our own people and should care about the advancement of EUROPEANS, cares for subhuman animals who have no hope of advancement to anything higher instead.
2. I am also baffled that they, having the power to make sweeping changes for the greater good of humanity and progress toward a Golden Age, do nothing to advance either goal. This leaves me deeply puzzled and uncertain about their role in or potential benefit in terms of human advancement.
3. I am also pondering their support of enemies (muslims) who share nothing in terms of their supposed goals.
Perhaps I am coming off a long stretch of having my illusions about men shattered and I simply don't have a place in my mind for them anymore right now….IDK being 'males' I am just as cautious of them as I am of all 'men' nowadays since my education on Zig Forums is going so well and I understand more of the male psyche than I ever have before…there is no 'wake up' to what men really are unless you can see them in an anonymous situation where they share their true feelings.
tl;dr They are not doing the job that they were tasked to do either for their own people or what they presented themselves as in public. By default this makes them just as dangerous to society as the CIA or any other Deep State Institution since their purpose is unknown and they do not follow their stated and publicly acknowledged mandate.
That's not true
/thread
The Goyim's Auxiliary of the Synagogue of Satan.
They ruined Catholic France.
They are phonies. They don't have secret knowledge. They suppress knowledge and dumb down nations. They tell their followers they secretly know how to cut stones and they have to protect their craft. How hard is it to chissel or cut rock? Litterally a pyramid scheme. They're frauds.
Most anchient sites were made from molded contcrete. A lot of truth is coming out on that. Masons suppress that kind of thing also. Ruins their narrative.
Moon landing hoax was a masonic lie. Their followers get elitist jobs upholding differant parts of their lies, such as Buzz Aldrin.
Renaissance was Catholic. Best of the West was Catholic. Worst parts of the west were Masonic etc.
Mormons and Jews are locked in with the Masons.
I unironically know a Jewish freemason who made the david star out of that stupid symbol. And also got some necklaces and other stuff making a davidstar out of it. Unironically when I asked about joining he was very surprised and wondered why I would even want to if I'm not Jewish since it takes so many things from the Jewish faith and most of the people he knew at his lodge where Jewish. (I actually didn't join them fyi, but I know plenty of them and probably could if I wanted to).
The OP for these threads are always shit tier.
Most of them do not like muslims at all, actually hate them. Yes pol is very nice to get a good overview over what people think in an anonymous setting. This can also take place in real life but large majority of people are NPC tier (even on right I mean look at donalders / or reddit subs). When the majority of people are NPC tier I get why you have organizations like freemasonry who are mostly about esoteric knowledge, rituals and such which the normal pleb wouldn't get want some secrecy and standards for its members.
Yes they aren't doing their job very well, they spread esoteric knowledge and talk about improving the world yet you see nothing concrete except sometimes references by obvious masons. It's pathetic and retarded like they consciously, collectively decide to be useless and irrelevant. Even pol is more relevant since at least it can penetrate the normie hive. Here you have a bunch of guys in freemasonry pretending to be an esoteric elite while they're even less competent than a college student union.
The knowledge is mostly about hermetic teachings, gnosticism and its a common theme in their rituals. The rituals themselves change perspectives and are esoteric. Most of these need to be experienced with other people so as to make them relevant as well. It's not really secret knowledge per se.. It's not about cutting stones, I would say that when one would say such a line he uses stone as a metaphor for the body and mind. I would say Catholicism ruins everything it touches so it was already ruined since it was Catholic. Pope / vatican have been corrupt since they existed any nation who would follow that clique naturally sets the nation up for failure.
More like Jews take many things from Hermetic traditions.
Newton was a Mason. Try again
:) I wish I had thought of this wording for my tl;dr…that sort of nails it a bit better than I could. Why is every European organization so fucking dickless at this point? {rhetorical} It is like it is manufactured to make people who still have a soul rage {albeit impotently at this point}. We must find our way past this immovable dead obstacles if we are going to survive while they are completely destroyed by their own dead weight.
Do you think they are cogent that they are dead weight on the Living or do they think that they are doing something of value?
Go make a cathedral with flying buttresses then. You don't need to learn, right?
Retard opinion discarded
Are the masons offering rock cutting lessons now? You realize that they know longer understand any of the technology that made them worthwhile in the first place. To have TANGIBLE VALUE you must have TANGIBLE SKILLS. People with no skill have no value no matter how much fiat they are worth…fiat is FAKE…not tangible. A man is only as valuable as the skills he possesses. Fiat is only a stand in for labor…if a man has no labor he is worth nothing because all his fiat is a stand in for nothing since he has no skill. This fake fucking system needs to fall.
know longer = no longer
READ THE MOTHERFUCKING RULES OF THE FUCKING WEBSITE YOU STUPID PIECE OF SUBHUMAN SHIT.
The main thing I've heard about the Freemasons is that it's a club in which old men have a shitload of gay sex. Seriously it's like Lemonparty.
Not so much gay sex as it is something entirely different.
Do you understand quantum states, and did you know your limbic system operates at the quantum level?
They don't say no because it's not worth it. They say no because of the risk that something would slip in their mind and they would risk someone else knowing their secrets.
It's how I know a certain world leader loves Skyy Vodka.
Wrong colors.
yeah this reeks of a slide thread, and probably breaks several rules as well… If you dont know anything about freemasonry you need to lurk more or go back to halfchan.
The operative ones did. That's the point. It was basically a trade school, and the secrets were diplomas.
Patently wrong.
Don't want to stir up too much shit by creating a new thread. But as someone with "knowledge" in freemasonry I really don't know why all the fuss is about the. Ask me anything regarding it and I'll answer within my abilities. But tbh all te knowledge i have is that it's just a bunch of people trying to enlighten themselves with a lot of study, and some esoteric stuff.
Hebrew larping as well as some Luciferianism aka Judaism sprinkled on it.
how is it anything more than a dying boomer-fraternity desperately starving for young members?
all conspiracies aside why should any young Zig Forumsack consider joining?
A fraternity? You mean an international rootless clique. An order inundated with jews. An order responsible for creating the hellish nightmare we call the materialistic world of capitalism and marxism. One need look no further than Albert Kike to know their nature. To know they are our enemies. To know they are a danger to any homogeneous people that seek to remain homogeneous. What purpose the Masonic Order once had, was lost when it became the Free Order, one free to be degenerate. They horde secrets not to protect them, but to subjugate from the safety of board rooms and council chambers. They are through and through, faggots, cowards and traitors of the highest order.
It really depends on the lodges, and yes a lot of them are boomer-fraternity shitty lodges where nothing gets done and they basicly just stroke their e-peen.
But that's not all there is, I've seen some movements inside the lodges during my lifetime, and especially in my country it was enough to split freemasonry completely.
As you might know lodges all organize under a banner council that represents the lodges of that country and that council represents freemasonry of that country abroad. In my country there was such a misunderstandment between lodges that it drove a split into them now we have 2 high councils from only one country.
Besides understanding what freemasonry is at its core it's easy to see the interest in joining it.
As I said it is a bunch of people trying to enlighten themselves. But not all of them are that enlightened, so they end up going with what is just the juiciest hot take of intelectuality.
For years freemasonry has defended the UNITE THE WORLD motto but I've been seeing some shifts happening from the inside. For myself I believe in freedom above all and have some slight racialist tendencies, (by slight I mean I don't want to massmurder all niggers) and my opinion has not been devalued among my piers.
On the contrary, more and more I see members hailing the founding fathers as true liberators and the path to human enlightenment.
So I guess the reason why any Zig Forumsack would consider joining is just as any other reason for joining council meetings. Forming their own parties, etc.
Goyim better not have a club free from feminism. Where they can build self supporting networks and alliances. That is only for the chosen.
Wow, you're sure giving it a lot of credit.
How so?
Yes the turning point where the Masonic Order died does really mean a black spot in their history.
Although as I've said previously that isn't to say there aren't some movements within the Masonry that seek to revive some old glory.
Think of it like this. Before the Masonry adopted the founding fathers ideals which pretty much encapsulate (Free White Men) Masonry defended absolutism, before that it defended strong feudalism.
Knowing a bit how it changed throughout the centuries it always strikes me that Masonry is a driving force of change. And that is exactly my main gripe with it, sometimes I feel like lodges and members just want change for the sake of change.
When Europe was mostly absolutist and monarchical masonry spawned the founding fathers. When it was mostly feudal it spawned absolutism. And when it was mostly freedom of the white man and countries competing it spawned freedom for everyone in the world and nobody competes so that everyone can have a cushy life.
I might be at fault or my vision might be clouded but I still see it as random people trying to enlighten themselves, although I do agree right now the freemasonry is a joke of what it was.
It does not mean it has always been as such at that it can't be a driving force for good in the future.
More jewish bullshit. It's a form of Janissaryism for the extra-good goyim, elevating slightly above their non-masonic brothers in exchange for their loyalty and control.
Oh and sorry for double posting.
But one thing of note I must add is that I absolutely despise the secretism of it all, I wish Masonic thought could be something the whole of society could engage in, but I can understand given it's history why it became secret. Although right now that secretism is mostly perpetuated by people who are high and mighty on their horse and want to feel important, and say that they belong to an exclusive club.
Defended shit, coexistence is not adherence. I dont engage in violence doesn't mean I support this fag fest clown world government
Masonry is judaism for the goyim. Kikes took it over long ago.
What secrets? Morgan published the secrets 200 years ago.
Why do you worship Jews?
And Preston published them before him. And the Edinburgh Register house did it over 300 years ago.
No secrets, just the secret way that masonry is.
Not that there are an y secrets that can't be uncovered through enough digging.
But just the whole thing of, secret societies, secret rituals, secret meetings.
That breeds rot in my mind.
Kinda cool when first started and made America, became huge faggots that don't even understand their own memes eventually.
You realize masonry is much older than that.
It's just so that your average bumpkin beta cuck feels special.
Exactly what I'm trying to get across.
You bore me, juden. There's no point engaging in conversation with an enemy. We are at war.
The Masonic order which as far as I can tell owes its origins to Sumer, once encapsulated something divine and eternal. A pursuit of knowledge, and more than that a retaining of context that gives knowledge coherence from one generation to the next. The past was tumultuous, knowledge was fragile, the enlightened could be killed, disappeared, snuffed out in masses on the whim of tyrants and warlords. The Library of Alexandria, Nalanda, The Zoroastrian pursuits of divine and material symbiosis… These things all quickly lost, mark the past as a dark age. Only know are we entering one of "light."
What have the free masons done to preserve the knowledge of the past, what did they do to stop The Skull and Bones, and other fraternities, influenced across borders by the banking cliques of the world, dominated by jews and traitors, do to stop the ruins of Iraq from being demolished en masse?
Free Masons are not Masons. They are childish, brutish brats, that pursue the pleasures of flesh, that have no knowledge of reincarnation, that have no knowledge of what purpose rites once held. They are superficial, heretical, atheistic, and tepid. They are a force of stagnation and corruption.
The lastest attempt to recreate the Masonic order was the Ahnenerbe. The free masons along with powerful jewish minds worked tirelessly to erase the orders of the Third Reich from the collective memory of the world. But we do not forget. We will return from Valhalla as many times as it takes.
with the internet people can research anything they would like, as long as they'd like (plus they are so desperate for membership and discussion that they are posting all over about things that they would have probably withheld in the past, as strictly for the initiated)
the only purpose of a secretive exclusive club, is to discuss and plan against the ruling order
when your goals match the hr department of goldman sachs company policies; infinite freedom (degeneracy, faggotry etc.) unite the world (infinite browning of white countries, until there are no more white counties), what is there to hide?
this is why no one is joining and masonry is dying, whether it is because they "won" and their ideas/plans are so mainstream that no one needs to go hide to discuss or it's just a (((cohencidence))) is not really important
Nice bait, faggot. I am an NS Odinist.
Watch the movie forces occultes.
Seem to be a typical pol foreskin fanatic. Thinks Jews are 8ft tall and control everything and are smarter than everyone.
So you can't back up what you're posting?
Lolno. It comes from medieval stone guilds in England and Scotland.
Preserved it, I guess. Why would it be responsible for all the other shit?
Odinist. My invisible God is better than yours looser.
Don't bother replying to me, kike.
It's not dying it is dead.
Freemasons ride on the coattails of everyone else and is the McDonald's of secret societies, got full of themselves after Napoleon's brother joined.
Rosicrucians did it first and the best.
I can agree with that.
Still wish masonry could go back to being a force of true enlightenment and not the shitshow it is today.
Not wrong!
But I have had this argument too many times already with people who cannot understand anything other than their operative paradigm and I am le tired of it. Without a BASIC understand of the sublime properties of this realm you are not going to achieve anything.
Don't need a club for that user. I do this every day on my own.
Which country user? (ok got my answer)
ETHNO-GLOBE user here…so I am going to have to part ways with you on keeping violent part humans alive on the planet. Beastiality was never a good idea and it isn't a good idea now. Study the history of Haiti if you want to find out how much gratitude niggers have for our people, they are nothing other than chimpanzees (80% GEDMATCH to chimps which makes them 20% human…aka not worth keeping alive).
The only way for Masons to revive their old glory is to enforce European expansionism and ETHNO-GLOBALISM. The USA was going to be the model for a global world order until you all let the kike international bankers in…compared to my families history in Vineland, you don't even belong here…shitting up the place by allowing our people to be overthrown tortured and murdered by the shithole refuse of the world. You have DESTROYED US…not instituted a New World Order.
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What happens when you use the 'filter ID+' option?
Lol, shills can't handle being called out.
People only think that because there were too many members in the 50s. It's returning to normal now all the boomers who artificially inflated the numbers are dying off.
Yea, it is. You misunderstand tangible value.
You broadcast what a faggot you are
You no longer see their posts, or posts replying to them, even your own in that regard. It makes it easier to navigate a conversation with peers without inference from jews and their pets.
Although I wouldn't oppose the Ethno-globe I see it as something far ahead, in the future almost so out of reach it's not worth striving for as of right now.
But yes the idea doesn't phase me.
I never had a problem with their strange man club. I had a problem with their vow to defend their brother against any charge. That is UNJUST and I can't tolerate that, it is debased. It actually encodes corruption into the very fabric of the institution.
You're safe from the truth in a hugbox. Just like reddit is designed for.
No you misunderstand the basic principles of currency/the current sea; there is nothing different between diverting labor and diverting energy…I TOLD YOU I AM NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION FAGGOT.
Value of masonry in the past was it could open doors and was a support network. As middle class has been zapped and small businesses shoad it lost it's driving force to join. Magic tricks and handshakes are worthless in an of their own purpose
No such thing. You're not meant to defend anything against the moral or civil law. The Obligations make due notice of this. So any member knowingly defending another member who has committed a crime is equally guilty and has to be expelled.
So?
Only to people who lied to join, and should have signed up for the Chamber of Commerce instead.
Whoop de fucking doo; sign me up, LOL no thanks…
Thank you for that info.