NatSoc and Communism are reactionary ideologies. Christianity is superior. Look at the similarity in the metaphysics of all of these groups, and you will find talmudic self-worship and delusions about reality (such Grant's racialism, Nietzsche's 'Will to Power', existentialism, reductionism, empiricism, nominalism, neo-platonism, rosicrucianism, etc).
I often get attacked by NatSoc's, who have a pretty binary worldview (us vs. muh boomer commie maymay). I have been there, and I gathered a large library of NatSoc literature along the way, so I have no reactionary bias on the subject (and I know about )udeo-freemasonry so I don't need to be initiated into your cult). I can say the exact same thing to esoterics/neo-platonists (and their LARPagan proxy warriors). The bottom of the rabbit hole is metaphysics and worldview, and once you spend some time there you will realize where the true chronological conflict amongst men occurs. This is where Christ prevails, and if you substitute his teachings with some talmudic WASP garbage about ethnography you are in absolute error and self-deception. If Germany awoke from their idealism, and recognized their true roots, they would have survived under the supervision of God against the allied forces. That should be your tiff with NatSoc, not because of the neo-platonic LARPagan stagecraft projected by Himmler and Devi. I will reiterate: If there are people who actually think that socialism or nationalism are compatible with Christ's teachings (the Logos), they are just products of Hillary's identity politics liberal containment zone ruled over now by Trump, Dugin and the rest of the CIA/Mossad ideologues of the Alt-Right.
The 'Christians vs. Pagans'' 'debate' is rigged (mainly because of misconceptions about Christianity manufactured by )udeo-freemasonry). The 'NatSoc vs. Pagans' debate is rigged, because as you clearly understand, there is no real distinction (ideologically, mythologically, philosophically) between these two movements. Sorry, I just realized I have been saying 'Pagan' instead of 'Neo-Pagan' - Paganism ended with Julian the Apostate, and these people are just LARPing as sodomites and touting their )ewish revolutionary spirit as 'European Idealism'.
The preservation of a people and Nation The preservation of the wealth a people and Nation generates
James Johnson
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Carter Brown
Elaborate. If I say the wealth Americans create should benefit those Americans by improving their society, this is Hitler's idea of Socialism. Note that here Socialism is not an economic system, unlike Marxism, but a set of principles designed to ensure our wealth benefits our Nation first. Do you disagree with Socialism in this context? If so, why?
Jaxon James
Christianity isn't an 'ideology' it's a religion and a shit one at that, much like this thread
Austin Powell
How desperate.
Carson Martin
communism is an anti thesis to all things good and pure, communism does not react, it only acts. NS is syn thesis, it is a reaction to the never ending attacks of the red menace, it reacts because it is forced to, otherwise we could have something more mild like constitutionalism, but now we can't even have that because commie niggers like to include women and so called "minorities" in a document written explicitly with white men in mind. Now the only option is total National Socialism with nothing held back. THE DAY IS COMING FOR YOU COMMIE JEW
Dylan Fisher
Socialism is fucking based. #Bernie2016
Mason Moore
Christianity was a Roman creation. Its purpose was to pacify the Jews. Ergo, Christianity is reactionary. So I guess it's "inferior" too. Judaism was also a reaction to something, so it's reactionary. I don't know what the fuck you're even on about. This drivel reminds me of what they say over on the communist boards. I reckon you're probably one of them. Makes sense, since you're a Christcuck.
Because Christs divinity is obvious and true. No one in all of Christendom, and I use the term contemptuously, doubts the truth of Christ or any church while ALL Pagans (which is to say, all followers of folk religion or esoteric schools) completely disbelieve everything they do and only do it because they're putting on a theatrical performance for no ones benefit. This is the truth of the world and to disagree would be, what, to be a kike? Weak arguments, weak thinking, unconvincing and juvenile.
Zachary Murphy
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Bernie is a Marxist, not a Socialist.
Alexander Robinson
I love handing out gibs to people, socialism is fucking based AND redpilled.
Aiden Watson
Please explain why the wealth a society generates should not be used to improve said society.
Julian Gutierrez
Free handouts and welfare will MAGA. I completely agree.
Dylan Morris
This is new.
David Howard
You're refusing to address the question because I assume you're Jewish.
Justin Turner
What question is there to answer when I just stated that I love socialism?
Austin Perez
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Pretty easy yes/no question. Can you answer it or nah?
Landon Wright
Now you're pilpuling like a duplicitous kike. Stop trying to reinterpret my plain words stating that socialism is fucking based.
Jeremiah Clark
I accept your defeat.
William Harris
Sage is not a downvote ;^)
Jeremiah Gutierrez
acting retarded is not an argument ;^)
Jonathan Cook
I never accused you of having an argument tbh
Nathan Lee
let me know when you can bring some substance and address:
till then Zig Forums is btfo
Mason White
Still acting retarded I see :/
Oliver Johnson
It did conquer more wealth. The Unity message sells.
The anti-Semitism of the Christian-Socialists was based on religious instead of racial principles. The reason for this mistake gave rise to the second error also. The founders of the Christian-Socialist Party were of the opinion that they could not base their position on the racial principle if they wished to save Austria, because they felt that a general disintegration of the State might quickly result from the adoption of such a policy. In the opinion of the Party chiefs the situation in Vienna demanded that all factors which tended to estrange the nationalities from one another should be carefully avoided and that all factors making for unity should be encouraged.
It was obvious, however, that this kind of anti-Semitism did not upset the Jews very much, simply because it had a purely religious foundation. If the worst came to the worst a few drops of baptismal water would settle the matter, hereupon the Jew could still carry on his business safely and at the same time retain his Jewish nationality.
Through this shilly-shally way of dealing with the problem the anti-Semitism of the Christian-Socialists turned out to be quite ineffective.
It was anti-Semitic only in outward appearance. And this was worse than if it had made no pretences at all to anti-Semitism; for the pretence gave rise to a false sense of security among people who believed that the enemy had been taken by the ears; but, as a matter of fact, the people themselves were being led by the nose.
The Jew readily adjusted himself to this form of anti Semitism and found its continuance more profitable to him than its abolition would be.
Kayden Thompson
Christianity is the 3rd position. Thats why we should rightly have h Jerusalem.
Brayden Lopez
Fuck off jew. Kill yourself and save us the effort.
Aiden Perry
I'm bumping this thread, not necessarily because I agree with OP, but to spite you provide an argument you double nigger, you are exactly what's wrong with Zig Forums
Josiah Collins
No jew, we don't bother engaging (jew) at this point. Death is your future.
The lack of leadership from the church is really disgraceful. How difficult would it be to say that Europeans benefited greatly from the constraints imposed by Christianity while niggers nigged for 2000 years? They are still ignoring scientific evidence like retards.
Josiah Foster
Two-thousand years of breeding according to the strict standards of Christianity is about to be wiped away and the Pope can only thank the last Pope for setting a precedent of quitting early. Now the world looks to people who followed Confucious and Buddha for standards of civility. It's repulsive.
Daniel Phillips
Niggers are the most staunch adherents to Christianity. Try harder.
Wyatt Morris
Civic nationalism, the religion. Ask your pastor if he'd rather your daughter marry a black christian or a white atheist.
No it isn't, or it wouldn't have declined into nothingness spawning the previous two. You can't bring something back from its logical end without massively reworking it to the point its no longer like what it once was. I believe evolution is the proper term and NATSOC actually tried to not suppress or destroy Christianity realizing it would destroy itself if left unchanged from its current ideological path, but tried to rework it toward the German peoples.
Before you go all E Michael Jones on that with "Catholicism did support each ethnic/racial group being separate within Christianity", that's bullshit. From a truthful stance it was a Universalist uniting dogma. The equality nonsense we've been dealing with for at least the last two centuries was already there within the text waiting for the right moment to spring forward in the twisted way that it has.
This is why our ancestors were infinitely smarter than us iPhone staring cave dwellers now. They realized the power of language and why you didn't teach foreigners your language so they couldn't manipulate it to later control, and ultimately destroy you. Also they understood having fewer words in a vocabulary that meant multiple different things and represented concepts not broken down materialist specific things. Our brain CPU went from x86 to fucking ARM instructions. Simple, fast, and stupid. They were also very direct and specific with this smaller vocabulary where even to this day no matter how hard they try to change terms like "Nation", they can't because its reference point is to an area where the understanding was so clear it makes a fool out of anyone saying it represents something like a multi-ethnic state.
tl;dr If you want to save Christianity then NATSOC is the only way. It must be changed enough to represent each ethnic group that embraces it serving its best interest at all costs on this earthly plane
implying this is a bad thing. May the Sun Kings Reign Again!
Jason Sullivan
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Some are obviously JIDF. Some. The rest are mentally deranged semitic worshipers. Each of them have their own headcanon that revolves around denying objective incriminating flaws with christianity. There's no consistency with any of them. They get proven wrong and called out, then they show up in a new thread to recycle the same old points.
Here's some off the top of my head: Bonus: look up testimony on how it used to be customary to kiss the pope's feet if you visited, but never for the rothchilds ^This is not an exaggeration. A semite worshiper has said this on Zig Forums, with no irony or sarcasm. For that matter, everything I'm listing has been said multiple times across tons of pointless threads > [placeholder for pathetic attempt to excuse the (((holy roman empire))) in pagan genocides and burning of libraries] ^ The reference to babylon is explicitly a callback to when jews were kvetching about babylon in the old testament - jews saw rome as the new babylon > [placeholder for pathetic attempt to disprove that (((jesus))) literally and only hated the pharisees and thus christianity is originally just jew infighting and saul of tarsus saw it as an attempt to make a cult to control whites aka gentiles] Note: All placeholders represent major flaws that no semite worshiper has ever answered, because they can't. Note 2: I am very sure I missed many pointless semitic worship recycled delusions, but if you think this list is long, an exhaustive list would be way longer.
For good measure, because of a definitive lack of actual historical evidence, it's far more likely that saul of tarsus invented the jesus story. Every non-biblical historian mentioning jesus only mentions him because they were noting their observations of christians, who were observed as odd characters. There are two exceptions. One was a gentile historian that worked with the early christians. Archeologists have learned over time that all of his work is fraudulent. Most damning is that his source was a jewish historian. I reiterate: there is an actual and verifiable case that (((jesus))) is not just a fictional invention, but his story was invented precisely when saul of tarsus was sending letters, and this easily explains why some of saul's references to (later) new testament details do not match up.
Why would they? Christcucks never argue in good faith. If you read his post, you read every christian thread on Zig Forums.
Michael Anderson
This is an astroturfing thread. The main issue here is that the conflict is white versus jew, not christian versus jew. OP intentionally is identifying the opposition to the jews as christians, thereby implying that the racial element is not the issue and that since Zig Forums is aligned against the jews then Zig Forums is made up of christians.
Be wary of how christian shills word threads. And by christian shills I mean the JIDF. They're the ones who want to turn this into a christian versus jew conflict even though christians view jews as allies and brethren and bible makes it clear that all christians are jews because they worship the same lord.
Anthony Hill
The ones on Zig Forums don't
Brayden Jenkins
The one's in the presidential campaign Zig Forums supported the last 2 years do.
Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God. For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written:
“Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles; I will sing the praises of your name.”
Again, it says,
“Rejoice, you Gentiles, with his people.”
And again,
“Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles; let all the peoples extol him.”
And again, Isaiah says,
“The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; in him the Gentiles will hope.”
OH! Hey! This'll be fun! Since the mods are going to let this shitpile fester, because its their creation, let's throw some spice into this pot of smell brown goo!
QUESTION FOR OP (and all Christians in fact): If you had to choose between a non-Christian ethnically-European Western society, or a Christ ethnically non-European Western society, which would you choose and why?
inb4 massive cop-outs all over the place, "that's not a fair question!", "its a false dichotomy - and no I don't care that its theoretical, thus totally invalidating my complaint!", "[insert whining about 'jewish argumentation']", etc
Aaron Watson
*If you had to choose between a non-Christian ethnically-European Western society, or a Christian ethnically-non-European Western society, which would you choose and why? Fixed. I always love these responses.
Asher Jones
LMFO you're retarded.
Tyler Rodriguez
>another (((Christian))) thread when will people learn
Lincoln Flores
ideologies are packages of dead memes that aim to possess your soul and block you from adequately scanning the actual Time. prepackaged knowledge block you from being Fast and grokking the ever changing vibe
our force is (the) MEM. those who know the science will understand. so let us MEME and our enemies will be naturally behind us. they will be forced to react. 'those who imitate bow to those who create', said Igor Bogdanoff. transcendental memes filled with indirect allusions and nice abysmal depth – is what we need to ascend to the next level.
Christians are allowed to preach on television and radio, and get paid for it. NatSocs aren't even allowed to make money flipping burgers if they get found out. Fuck off, Christcuck.Your religion makes you a jewish pet.
James Carter
You sound a lot like this guy, a jew who converted to Christianity.
Xavier Collins
Bernie is a closet Neo-Trotskyist which translates to neocon since neocons are pseudo-communists that were founded on pseudo-Trotskyist ideals.
People who support Bernie belong on REDDIT and need to die.
He is Babbys first entry to communism, the kind of cuck that only college kids support. Even Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is a better candidate than Uncle Bernie.
If your going to support a Democrat. Support Tulsi Gabbard who opposes the Syrian War.
Adam Foster
Is there a version of the bible with all the references to jewish mythology and assorted jewish protagonists removed? I remember reading a bible once and the first several pages were some horseshit about jews like (((Abraham))) and their lineages. I don't want that kike shit in my religion.
Correct, Jew worship does lead to anti nationalism.
Jason Cook
Communism is revolutionary by definition. Reactionary just means conservative/rightwing. Thread is trash. You're politically illiterate.
Joseph Brown
Before trying to remove the splinter from your brothers eye, remove the log rom your! Faggot.
Oliver Morales
Nigger, the only point of communism is that it's fucking utopian.
Dumbfuck.
Christian Lopez
I've seen countless slide threads before, but ones such as these are practically becoming works of art in their own right at this point.
I admit that Hitler had rose tinted glasses when it came to certain intonations and feelings, but they were already heavily adhering to the christian faith you faggot, Hitler being raised as such and wishing to impose this ideology upon his people and soldiers 'Got mit uns.' In truth, one of the reasons he probably failed was because he was TOO forgiving, too idealistic. Christianity does not lend itself too much to objective fact, only idealism.
Pull your head out your ass, threads such as these only seek to divide us further.
Gott mit uns is a saying copied from the Swedish king.
And Gott doesn't mean the christian god, just higher beings, or it can be mean God as in Godan/Odin.
Jeremiah Perry
Christianity is America's religion, JIDF.
"Nothing you do will change my mind. I am dead set on supporting Trump 2020. Trump is making America Great Again, and you can't do anything about it." Trump will win 2020 and you can't stop him.
Remider: These shill threads are endorsed by CM and the mods
Jaxson Long
Reality is here OP and it is telling you to stop smoking cocks and meth you delusional retard.
Levi Morris
Christianity is the ultimate cuckery. It is literally a philosophy of secular apathy and death.
Sebastian Gomez
This. Mods are christ cucks
Colton Lopez
ANOTHER WEEK ANOTHER GOD DAMN FUCKING THREAD FROM YOU Zig Forums FAGGOTS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Eli Cruz
ITT: Triggered reddit LARPers making more mod conspiracy theories and projecting their worldview onto Christianity, which they studied for about a week in kindergarten and know fuck-all about.
Am I supposed to think that this term means anything and that anything "reactionary" is somehow bad?
Like if someone starts poking me with a sharp stick repeatedly and they're doing it so hard it's fucking up my shirt and causing blood to spill out I should just stand there and not react?
The fuck is wrong with reacting?
Brayden Sanchez
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Dominic Murphy
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Nathan Torres
It means you invented a new identity, based on a reaction to something bigger or threatening than yourself. When that identity is negative, you lose history.
