ITT I offer solutions for the structural problem of traditional marriage in the current year and you help to refine strategies.
Solutions and strategies ONLY. We do 10 of these threads a week without good strategy. It's time to fix it. All help in nailing this down is greatly appreciated. Please don't anchor/ delete this one mods. Give it a day at least to see if we can get somewhere.
This is what I got if you're already being divorce raped. It's a lot of work but you can do it. If you haven't gotten a wife yet change all of this to preemptive principles rather than damage control:
Your mission is to offer her an even better deal. Present to her: If you give me back my authority I will give you money. If not you will be destroyed. No matter what she doesn't get money by force. Be late. Be willing to go to jail. Whatever it takes. It's going to hurt to do this because it will be presented as you not taking care of your kids. But bleed her out at all costs because that ultimately is the best for your kids. You can't go soft on this. Resolve now that you're going to hide your fucking money.
That's the carrot strategy. But there has to be a stick for this naughty child. You can't beat her ass. They're expecting that. They have all kinds of shit ready for that. They have a knight a rook and two castles there. Don't do that. Okay? Social status. There we go. That will keep her in line. Record her getting banged by you? Nope. They have that square covered. Revenge porn they have covered. Racism? YEESSSS. Now you have a strategy. The system is designed to only destroy her for that.
Secret money that she can only get by obeying. Total social destruction for disobeying. Checkmate. Now for the chads. She's older now but since she is a child and her friends group is telling her she is not devalued and she's going to get out there and get the 10/10 male that she deserves because she's a pretty princess you're going to have to get her self esteem back to reality before she gets std's gets pregnant by a pick up artist and starts fucking your kids friends and destroying all of your lives. Her friends. Keep an open social media presence for her friends to see or talk to them. You always want her back and miss her but there are always a bunch of fake stacys telling you to move on. You status looks like this for months:
This is shit that some of you are VERY good at due to propaganda from the elections. Sockpuppets etc. You understand social proof, you understand pathos and ethos, and how to hack logic-free emotional NPCs Now do it for women. Let's workshop this and come up with some sort of guideline to subvert the court system and get women back on track and ensure a future for our people. Here's my outline now give me marketing specialists, lawfags etc. Thank you.
William Butler
And what do you do if the man is in the wrong?
Oliver Bell
Reread inb4 list We've already done "move to x." Let us stipulate that this is a good pre-emptive strategy but not always possible for everyone. Also It's better to take ground with better moves than to retreat.
Jordan Brooks
tits or get the fuck out. You have an entire universe of a power structure to help you if your husband cheats on you lady. Please go to reddit or make another thread.
Benjamin Williams
I do not know how socially excluded men do not already know this. The blueprint for destroying a human's spirit was laid out; it happened to them. Return the favor. After you improve yourself and are better than most men, become more vicious. I have done this to every daddy's little whorecess that comes around begging for an out. This kind of punishment needs to be carried out on a societal level. With several computers set up, I can do this for thirty minutes four times a week and absolutely destroy roastie self-esteem. Make them feel hated and thrown away, it is what they fear most and is why it is their primary method of attack.
Good VPN and opsec are good, but likely unnecessary because women are idiots. You have nothing to lose and salt to gain.
Luke Roberts
dumbshit, you can't inb4 on OP. Otherwise, the solution is basically one thing: be dominant. Don't let a woman gain the upper hand in the relationship. Stay relaxed about mental unbalance they have that compels them to run shittests.
Jose Gutierrez
30% cuckold rate, most domestic violence, child abuse, and divorce initiations. You kill your own children.
Meanwhile you are more likely to be killed slipping on a banana peel than raped.
This is the future you chose.
Jacob Richardson
Your mission is to kill more women (of the shitskin and other subhuman types) while also organize massive killings of all non-whites. There is no circumvention around a conditioned society. Killing all who antagonize us is the only solution. Any law will be ignored in favor of the women and the shitskins.
Charles Williams
sorry about the shit formatting too. The ideas are organized as best as I could with what I've seen work with my friends but I can do better. Help me flesh this out better and I'll make an info-graphic. All critiques of substance welcome.
Adrian Gutierrez
Reread inb4. This is "nothing works freak out" It's high risk and it doesn't make white kids.
Jesus christ just find good people even if theyre fat or ugly instead of resorting to this talmudic bullshit. This is nothing of what a relationship is supposed to be like.
Jace Reyes
This is off topic as well. Make another "how to retake the world with violence" thread or something. Also this smells very fucking fbi (this is a board of peace) Or a citation for a huffington post article.
Evan Miller
Learn to code lady. We're putting women back under control. Fed poster please go and stay go.
Leo Gomez
This is a fair critique. I don't like doing shit like this, but we can't use less ruthless means than our enemies and relying on the virtues of women is naive. Banging ugly girls is good, but they really have the same outsized ego as all the rest; women don't settle just because they have little to offer. They only become more and more deluded.
Liam Moore
Nope.
Nolan Jenkins
As an alternative to your gaslighting approach, consider the following. Bring in a girl from a culture without feminism. Then, use IVF and white ova. You have white sons and a tradwife. The only challenge is keeping her away from other women in white countries. You're going to need to be in charge of groceries and transportation.
That said, I respect the men who "follow the simple 841 steps to sleep safely with a grenade under your pillow" approach to modern women. Good luck whatever your approach.
Bentley Carter
divorce her ass
Zachary Parker
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Christian Murphy
Anecdotal evidence from a divorce attorney in a liberal US state: in 70% of divorces the woman plays ball and is cooperative. The man will exit the marriage with most (not all) of the assets he started with. You can salvage it and move on with your life.
The remaining 30%, the woman goes scorched earth and destroys the man's life for a decade or two.
Nicholas Roberts
You can't keep her off social media and the resources for her to take all your shit and fool herself into thinking she's a good person for doing it are to prevalent. The social blackmail is the best we've tried. It's sneaky I hate it. But it works. All day long our enemies try to make women damaged goods for our side with "blacked" and all that. It works. They slut up and they belong to them forever. Get her to say some racist shit on tape and she can never defect and she will know it. That's the parallel move to their shit. I get it. It's fucking dirty. I want to look my foes in their eyes and fight an honorable fight. But we have to get over that and be more shrewd.
Lucas Sanders
mgtow are not wrong about the problem. But that doesn't mean there are not new solutions that can be explored and work.
Joseph Thomas
Just keep the internet and guests out of your home. Your white sons can socialize with other white families while your wife from Myanmar knits and gestates the white ova and your sperm.
It's much preferable to creating a false reality within a false reality.
Luis Morales
This is not acceptable even if you get the house. Try to damage control if you get to this but preventing it is much better.
Alexander Long
This sounds harder even though my shit is pretty extreme and fucked up. Give me the bullet points of how to pull it off. Sell me on this. Maybe it will work for someone else or it can be tweaked. Maybe we can combine best practices for a good field manual.
Jace Reyes
Even better is to not get maried but have legal documents of equal parent rights and power of lawyer or whatever. Even even better is to make her sign contract that givs over kids to party that didn't betray family; you.
Leo Reyes
Yes you can. You have to be libre software house and family and have security protocol like company she works at has. Arguments sway the European woman, as she is smart. Emotions sway the others, as they are not.
Benjamin Hughes
1. marry girl in country without feminism 2. get her ivf with white ova, choose to have sons only 3. don't buy an isp 4. don't promote her getting a driver's license 5. she is allowed to call her parents on your phone, as she doesn't need one
This plan does have its limitations. You can't live in a big city with crowded living. You also need to learn her language and be somewhat clingy to be the center of her life. It may or may not be a better method than multilayered gaslighting.
Charles Martin
It's going to have to be some combination preemptive legal strategy, isolation, gaslighting and making them unacceptable to the other side.
I'm adding "do not get legally married" and "prenup" to the list.
Luke Kelly
well here I thought you were a smart guy. you are a retard.
You go to jail , she gets money , she gets kids … you get fucked. She fucks black dudes. Enjoy your life.
You cant make a deal with a woman, they are too dumb, they take the bad side of the deal just to fuck you.
Mason Kelly
this is way too much work, then any chick is worth, unless your doing this to some pristine 17 year old virgin (lol). Is spending this much time on some fucked out roastie a good use of your time? The simplest way to keep women in check is to date multiple women at the same time and play them against each other, they will do the work for you. Of course you need to be attractive and or wealthy, not a retard socially. Marriage is dead, women killed it, don't try and breathe life into that corpse. If you want kids that badly the only non-insane route is the nigger route of bailing once she starts acting like an entitled whore and go get with another chick, but you're still on the hook for child support for a kid you won't be raising.
Going to prison for a woman user? Really? No woman is worth that.
Andrew Edwards
4 and 5 are harder. let me get something to eat and brainstorm on the logistics of that for a minute. brb
Michael Garcia
fair. Let's stick a pin in that and call it "sketchy" or "too high risk."
Chase Baker
man up boys, this white woman needs you to step in and save her
Well they've put a FUCK load of work into messing it up for us. kek. The upside is once we have a working model it becomes a prototype.
Cooper Scott
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Dylan Flores
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Cooper Mitchell
Fuck women without a condom, make babies and pay child support. As many as ypu can. Thats it. They are just wombs to us, not the goddesses to worship or keep in your house, because muh dick.
Brayden Roberts
What is the specific name of this document. Is this just "prenup" ?
Jace Reyes
I know but they start making your sons into Luna and desmondIsAmazing and your daughters into rachael maddow and all that if you leave them alone to raise your kids. They can't do it.
I did that, Im thinking of moving to Africa, there might be less niggers there.
Isaac Foster
and if not, she will, seeing as how she has met the condition of not having nigger kids the lebensborn will assist her in return for them being educated and trained by SS run institutions, hail victory, frau!
Adam Taylor
Hmm. Check the nose on her though….
Brandon Thomas
this for real, it will also bleed the welfare state
Camden Phillips
Take a closer look at her face.
Easton Long
If you give me back my authority I will give you money.
But user, she already get my money through welfare, alimony and child support…
Daniel Perez
it may just be the angle of the picture, also even so, we can refer to pic related of course the (one drop rule) is always at play,but as it stands currently we need to separate the what from the chaff right now, finer refinement can come later. Of course there will be psychological, emotional, and fitness testing to ensure that semetic traits are bred out and no longer an issue. But as I said, wheat from chaff. the Reich failed because they put perfection before priority, we can not make that same mistake, the world is getting browner every day and we need every "white" person on board, purity spiraling comes later.
You can literally go to jail for DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I DO NOT endorse pic related, but your local police department and family court DOES. It is called the Duluth Model, look it up. If you live in America, it will most likely apply to you. A DV conviction can ruin your life. Almost happened to me.
its so simple, yet took so long for me to grasp this. its very true and the world makes so much more sense when you notice it. Every argument you hear for women can be said for children too, yet we dont allow children to join the military, vote, own property, etc. You dont hate children, just like you dont hate women, and you also wouldnt want either of them to do these things for their own good. there are children than do calculus, algebra, play instruments like a master, and in many ways seem much smarter than average adults. The reason they shouldnt vote is because children lack good judgement, dont understand what is actually valuable, arent devensive about things that matter, dont take responsibility, you know, like women. children also behave like this, when they see an easy way out, something better and no real consequenses, they will do it. They dont understand things like honor or duty, or at the very least, only have a warped understanding of these things. Women arent horrible people even when they betray your trust, they are just behaving like children because thats what they are. You also cant be straight forward with them about how you feel, they demand you play mind games with them, and want a husband that is like a father figure to them. It makes so much sense, its scary. How they say one thing and so another, that reverse psychology you have to use on them just like kids. Its so true you might have pretty good luck picking up chicks by bringing a stack of pokemon cards to a wine tasting.
Joseph Rogers
yeah they're hip to that shit. All the don't let them drive and you can only use my phone stuff they've adapted to.
How about if you record your woman dressed up with you in blackface though. She sure as shit isn't going to run to judge Rebecca with that one.
That alone takes them completely out of the entire muh feminism power structure.
Just be racist as shit and she'll give you that card organically.
Isaac Gray
I figured those things out by age 10 tbh. Maybe you're talking about nigger children, who don't even recognize their own reflection til age 6?
Josiah Morgan
I know. It's kind of a downer though if you thought you were dealing with a peer. But fuck it. I was born and molded in the darkness. I can make it work.
Nicholas Rodriguez
Yeah they are, that's pretty much the definition of "horrible people" imo
Blake Sullivan
this is the truth and it's apparent to anyone who deals with women regular once you start looking for it
Brayden Cruz
They will try to do that through media/other kids even if you have an aryan wife. Blood is not water, sooner or later they will attach to their group, no matter the brainwashing.
Samuel Edwards
Oh no, the jews are against that? W-we better dont do it, y-you might go to jail for that, w-we better listen to what jews say.
Get fucked. Women literally want you to compete and win even with that shit. If you beat her and state can't do you nothing because you were smart about it - she will see you as winner and be even more attached. Hipergamy rules, always.
Kevin Green
on the relaxed front, I have to suggest again the easily angered should look into Andre Moritz's Liver and Kidney cleanse. Getting stones out of my liver/kidney/gallstone region is really starting to make a difference. I'll have as many more purges as it takes, 2 done already, doing them every two weeks, 3rd gets done end of this week. My liver must be mending itself with just a couple of hundred stones removed already because I'm having more decent bowel movements per day than usual as, I expect, toxins in my body that have built up for years are starting to get flushed out.
drunkards…I couldn't really drink at all last year, too painful after falling hard onto my back, a couple of beers and I was in some discomfort so I gave it away. After 2 liver flushes I scarfed down 5 large cans of beer with no ill effects bar a minor twinge which was just my organs calling me a hasty cunt. Until they are all gone I'm one week teetotal (just water and apple juice, maybe the odd coffee), and the next week gleefully drinking 2 or 3 cans of beer a day because democrats.
tldr; youngsters ignore this post entirely, you need to live clean. As a Gen Xer I'll be fucked if the boomers get to have all the fun.
This is true. It's foolish to let your enemy make rules. It makes sense however to compare risk/reward and difficulty of these various strategies. Control with money is one of the most difficult to prove and effective. That's why I put emphasis on that one in my original and amended lists. Giving her a black eye will fuck your whole world up however. Revenge porn will too and that not socially effective like the 50s. That's why I went with always be recording until you get a racist quote.
Brandon White
if man bad then divorce rape.
Connor Edwards
women: wtf, I love marriage now
Jackson Campbell
I've never had a girl who didn't want me to strangle, tie up and simulate rape with her, and i've dated alot of different girls in this jewish clown world. My plan is to make my next girlfriend put on my pitbulls high power shock collar until she has been trained to be my submissive house slave. It sucks but alot of women are perverts, and as a man you must control your women one way or another. If you don't dominate her, she will hate you and do her best to humiliate and destroy you.
Learn to tie them up, tease them and dominate them. Zap the fucking shit out of them if they get mouthy. If they threaten to use zog bots on you, zap them until they piss themselves.
Samuel Smith
Let me tell you too. You go into court and you say you took her phone away you could do time just for that. It's an entire other tier of domestic violence. If you say "I grabbed her wrist because she was walking away and I took her phone to see who she was texting." You can do YEARS. Family court will fucking DESTROY you if you say some shit like that out loud. Don't fuck around with that move.
Leo Cruz
When did I say that? Personally, I hope you do "abuse" your wife, so I can fuck her and your kids while you rot in prison
Tyler Rivera
I had to just move away. Its so fucking bad even in Forsyth which used to be 100% white 20 years ago.
Zachary Perry
This shit doesn't work. All these kind of freaks want to steal your car and cry rape. The s and M ones only give you power in the bedroom and then they ruin your life. You can beat them with a stick and shock them and set them on fire and they're still going to take the kids and raise them as human garbage to humiliate you. and actually these ones are MORE likely to do that.
Noah Bell
Oh no, YEARS? I'm going to do exactly that, i'll just turn myself in, right away.
And then she will visit me in jail because all the scared soyboys will not tingle her clitteress, ever, after that.
Not everyone is a cucked by matriarchy jew pathetic loser.
Jackson Gomez
If you niggers are going to commit felonies in an attempt to make some white kids, could you at least make yourselves useful and off some influential kikes or leftists before you go to prison?
Grayson Mitchell
There's no need to do something high risk low effect and easily provable like stealing her phone, when you can simply have secret money that's more persuasive, low risk and difficult to prove. It's also not a charge because it's not a crime. Of the two that's better.
Brayden Edwards
Women are children who want to have kids. Never forget this, Zig Forums.
Daniel Williams
True, like with everything you need to be smart, no crimes of passion.
Jose Mitchell
Also it makes you fail a shit test. She thinks fuck this guy will beat me up, that makes me horny, but I can put him in jail so I'm smarter so I'm actually dominate over him. Then they start dividing the alphas and the betas into roles they need and keep both, but both men are still basically pets. A fuck pet, A money pet. but she doesn't listen to any damn body. It really is a HUGE project to get mastery over them.
Easton Foster
WOMEN ARE CHILDREN = HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A WOMAN IS AKIN TO PEDOPHILIA OF COURSE THE KIKES WHO KEEP PUSHING THIS LINE SET IT UP IN A WAY TO ALLOW FOR PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY, BUT IT'S THE THOUGHT THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP ON SUBCONSCIOUSLY PUSHING IN YOUR HEAD "Women are children goy, fucking a woman is like fucking a child." And of course OP is a kike, look at how obsessive he is about his narrative. He even uses meme lingo like an effeminate faggot trying to fit in. . . . Anyway, if you're so concerned about your wife being retarded (like you'll ever get a quality wife if you actually constantly fall for these threads), then the solution is simple: don't date retarded women. Seek out the intellectual ones. Retarded women produce retarded offspring, why the hell do you want to reproduce with them?
Christian Rodriguez
Not really. The goal is actually very simple: take over the justice process by overthrowing the old one. Ofc, but it is the most permanent solution. Much better than sticking your wife/concubine in a closet or basement with a shock collar and hoping she doesn't tell the cops. Seriously, what the fuck is that shit? Holy fuck this place has gone downhill.
The enemy is jewish controlled State, nothing else. Until that is dealt with, all other problems will be impossible to solve. I will also remind everyone itt that we don't have a white birthrate problem, we have a shitskin importation and birthrate problem. See Japan vs the West as an example. The main problem is kikes and leftists in the government.
Oliver Clark
another shitpost thread inspired from the one I made earlier!
found the submissive cuck whos dominatrix mommy gf beats him on a regular basis
Alexander James
Sorry, i'm not jewish, I'm not into BDSM, scat, piss, and foot fetishes like your race is.
Noah Barnes
women are silly and should be treated as such, getting upset over their dumb decisions is like beating the shit outta your dog for pissing on the floor, she doesn't know any better BUT with a little bit of training she will learn to follow you so as long as you can keep her entertained and satisfied in the bed, the moment ya dun goof she'll be looking for your potential replacement, they're wired like this biologically, kiddo
Aiden Cruz
nice try shlomo but most dominatrixes are unironically buxom germanics ripe for breeding and where did I imply all those other things you brought up ya sicko?
Connor Ramirez
could of fooled me lmfao
Daniel Hall
Shit tests are there to check if you're stronger. You don't dominate her even with violence when she escalates to it, THEN you failed. You pass physical domination shittest - she will not go to the police in the first place to report it, why, you're valuable and she would lose you.
Caleb Allen
no, you should hold your gf's purse when you're helping her try out new shoes! or drive her scumbag parents around to run errands on your day off! :^)
Anthony Richardson
There are many men sitting in prison on DV charges and ag assault charges. Do you want to place your life and freedom in the hands of a cunt who can have you locked up for a decade or more if you fail just one of her shit tests?
The issue here is that you AREN'T the toughest guy on the block. You and her both know this, which is why we are in this situation to begin with.
Luis Mitchell
If violence is just for winning a shit test she herself created, she wont report you. You dont start dominance with violence, you use milder stuff. In jail you end up for things not related to this.
Jackson Cruz
Honestly it's sort of a lose lose. She thinks "if he doesn't beat my ass he's a bitch, if he's willing to beat my ass that means I can invoke that anytime, push his button call the police and put him in jail so he's still my bitch because I'm controlling him." You have to avoid this setup completely. There's no good answer. That's why giving the appearance that you are able to leave for a girl that won't do shit like that at anytime is a good hack. If she thinks there's a woman waiting for her to fuck up with that move it triggers her hypergamy. Having secret money that she might be able to get if she behaves also triggers it. She will then behave to get the better guy. But that better guy is just a you who is willing to give her more shit when you are pleased. You have to have that phantom better deal always on the table and a sock puppet stacy willing to make her jealous which is total humiliation for a woman.
Fake money=carrot. Fake stacy=stick. (Or real money and stacy if you can swing it.)
Lincoln Myers
We might as well try to do both though. There's nothing about trying to get around family court, the duluth model and destroying the female/jewish alliance that precludes us from taking over the government too. Fuck it man. Let's multi-task.
Jeremiah Scott
Damn, no wonder you guys can't find women to breed with if you actually think like this
Women to breed with is a low bar man. You can do better than that. Try hard mode: Wife, kids and insulation from jewish subversion of your household. How do you do that?
Kayden Richardson
Check.
Check.
Um…
Say "nigger" a lot and don't let my kids watch TV?
Joseph Kelly
Okay that's pretty good. Consider recording her reaction to you saying nigger a lot and you will have also stopped any ability for her to run to the courts and take all yours shit and raise your kids all weird. You might not need that, but it's low effort and better safe than sorry.
Lots of men thought they had it all in the bag and relied on their woman's virtue and loyalty and got totally fucking wrecked beyond belief when they got traded in for the state.
Noah Butler
I'm in a fairly good situation financially since a large portion of the child care in my family is paid for and done by my parents. No paper trail for alimony purposes, and it makes the wife knowingly beholden to my extended family.
The only downsides right now are that she's gotten chunky after shitting out four kids (working on it, but it's slow going) and we live in an Urban Hellhole.
Trying to find a way to transition to a more rural lifestyle and buy some acreage somewhere, but I think that will be a lot harder than getting my wife to lose some weight and quit the electric Jew.
