The IQ-debate

You'll never be German. Be proud of who YOU are. Spread National Socialism to YOUR people and rid them of the scourge of Islam, and hopefully together we remove the common (((enemy))).

Fuck off nigger.

not more than Turks
Turks are just Anatolians (Greeks in the west, Armenians in the east) mixed with Mongols (up to 14% in north-western turkey)
Kurds/Iranians are just Armenians mixed with Iranians
All populations would be considered to be non-Aryans by nuremberg laws

All mentioned populations

AfD like to play "pretend" when talking about German-Turks.
My NatSoc is pro-NPD himself and even they have the occasional southerner.
Honestly, the former party is going to be too lenient to those born in Germany and have aquired legal citizenship, while the latter (NPD) is never going to have political significance outside of a major crysis in Germany.

Libertarian, not National Socialist.
You reap what you sow, if you are going to ruin yourself through consumerism, it should be considered natural selection of the modern era.

What exactly am I?
Kurds are a country-less minority wherever they are who I cannot even speak the same language of.
Most of them (my father, who "technically left us" when I was 10, included) are sunni communists.

Maybe it is not the right thing, but it is extremely more convenient for me to identify with a culture that I was grown up in, rather than a foreign one that I have only been exposed to during my early childhood.

This. OP is an aberration and or took his IQ tests from some online place.

We don't want browns here. You have nothing worthwhile to say to us. You will never be accepted as White or Aryan either.

Turks are basically Americans, many of them have Bosnian, Bulgarian, Tatar, Iranic, Armenian, Circassian, Albanian, and Greek in them. Be that as it may the reason for western Turkey's high IQ is that they basically did a eugenic takeover of all the best that eastern Europe had to offer.

Are there any white people left on this board

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Nah man, we non-whites have taken over america and Zig Forums

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1) Just a Danish people are naturally taller than Japanese people, but can be stunted due to bad nutrition in their youths, IQ is definitely affected by non-genetic factors. Nutrition and upbringing during developmental years certainly play a role, and nobody who is serious about the issue should try to deny it. Most of the philosophical conflict comes from the frustration of trying to argue with social constructivists who refuse to acknowledge the role genes play, and that said role is greater than 0%.

2) You, as an individual, shouldn't "average" at any IQ rating. The average IQ of a people is the result of taking many individuals' IQ, adding them together, and dividing by the number of people. Within every bell curve, there are individuals on the high end and the low end. And, since IQ is largely heritable, it would make sense that if you are on the high end, your siblings would be as well. I am 100% confident there must be some black as night aboriginals in the deepest desert of Australia that would have over 130 IQ if properly raised, fed and educated. They're just vanishingly rare, and certainly proportionately rarer than 130 IQ chinese people.

You want to do iq debate? Ok lets go!

Whites are so smart they have given women control of their countries
Whites are so smart they elect leaders to give away their countries
Whites are so smart they let themselves be demographically replaced
Whites are so smart they elect leaders to strip them of their rights
Whites are so smart they would rather die than be called a bad word
Whites are so smart they let their enemies live among them
Whites are so smart they would bloat the 3rd world until overflowing into their own countries forever losing power instead of taking their place among the stars.

On review it looks like "high iq" has certainly served us well,wouldn't you say.

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My dude, just because your people's average IQ is crap doesn't mean every single member will sit there. It's an average, there's people 30 IQ points higher and lower than it and that's normal. If you breed, your offspring will PROBABLY be at the normal national level, but there is a good degree of variance.

Education has a part in it and you can increase it during development if you expose yourself to difficult tasks and learning material. Nutrition also plays a role. The problem with even trying to increase the IQ of an already low IQ by utilising education and exposure to intellectual tasks is that most of them aren't interested in the first place, and their IQ is so low that with, for example Africans you could not get them to functional levels – even with the best results; and the endeavour of increasing a populations IQ by training them, so to speak, is just too exhausting, in all ways, from a logistics POV.

Brain size is not the only major contributing factor. The other is complexity. More intelligent people have more complex brains, meaning a greater amount of neural connections and microtubules (which are required for higher thinking and abstraction). More neural connections means faster thinking and greater ability for more comprehensive and holistic thinking.

Keep in mind that you don't get an exact 1/1 of the DNA of your parents have. Mutations occur, some genes don't get passed on, etc. That allows for great variations between parent and child. For example, if your father is 50% Irish, you may only inherit 5% of that Italian DNA. That's how you get 200 IQ guys appearing from barely-working class families. The genes you inherit really are a roll of the dice.

t. work for Richard Lynn's Ulster Institute.

Go back and never return.

The Great Race are the rightful rulers of Midgard Earth. All other races, other than the yellow race owe their lives to us for protecting them from the Dark forces of Homo-Capensis.

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Our problem is not our Intelligence, our problem is that we also score high on levels of Compassion, to our own detriment.

Given the US is 50% non-european, it is likely that a lot of the posters are similar.
The picture is what makes me wonder why I'm wasting my time on here, talking to mongrels and retard degenerates that I would have nothing in common with in real life.

Yes, absolutely. That's why I took a field mouse into my home and raised it as my own son. He is now a university professor who works as a consultant for NASA in his spare time. Certainly, not every field mouse might have come out the same way, but it is proof that there is a chance for it, if you give them the right environment.
P.S. I was lobotomised and none of my heresay is based on any kind of logic or common sense whatsoever, not to mention scientific method.

Hahahahah these .gov psy-ops are fucking trash dude, hahahah, take your brown people and fuck off.
We're not fighting Iran.

Our empathy has been used against us for most of the last century.
Have a look at "century of the self", it's on youtube. The first ten minutes explain 'peace time propaganda' otherwise known as advertising, and the methods used within it to subvert.
It was (((freud)))'s nephew who pinoeered it. His first experiment was to convince women that smoking cigarettes would make them independent and powerful. Note there is no correlation between the two things, but by targetting the emotional centres, rather than the higher reasoning functions, then all logic is bypassed.
Advertisements before that used to be quite simple, "buy this, it's good!".
The empathy attack has been used most notably in regards to sending trillions to third world zoos via charities, which resulted in massive overpopulation and those third worlders then hearing about the civilised world - where they headed for more gibs.
More recently, it was used with "dead baby on beach" = turn your brains off and open the borders to millions upon millions of third world invaders that will then murder, rape and blow you up in your once peaceful and safe countries.

That's a 4chan meetup.

I'd trust a dumb white over a smart jew.

ahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

turks may be subhuman scum, but kurds are even worse. kurds are worse than turks, worse than arabs, they're basically the gypsies of the middle east. inbred mountain niggers

turks, especially in western anatolia and thrace, have significant native anatolian/greek ancestry, maybe even some slavic. that map has the average IQ in Thrace at 98, that is probably similar to Bulgaria or Greece

kurds on the other hand are 100% trash and everybody hates them except their natural ally, the jews. that map has the kurdish part of turkey as basketball american-tier IQ, wonder why?

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Northern climates created high-trust societies since it was necessary for survival to stick together and not fuck each other over constantly. The same can't be said for most other races. In fact, the way people conducted farming can have a massive influence on their collective psyche, as shown by the differences in attitude between traditional wheat farmers and rice farmers in China for example:
newschicagobooth.uchicago.edu/newsroom/behavioral-differences-between-northern-v-southern-chinese-linked-wheat-v-rice-farming

The habit of shaking hands may also have been developed as a means of expressing trust. Handshakes essentially present the other party with an empty right hand, signalling peaceful intentions. Another habit other races never picked up on.

Meanwhile in reality, the history of Europe is filled with blood, rape, and untold suffering – because whites fought each other. We can easily kill each other and go to war just like that for thousands of years – and even be the only people on earth to turn war into a science. Yes, we actually turned war into a field of scientific study.

But!!!

Somehow the reason why we are now cucks is our empathy, a product of the same genes responsible for the greatest wars and bloodshed in history? Very funny, especially considering the fact that the ability to feel empathy for others goes down the more different someone looks compared to you.

Ya know, maybe our behaviour is due to the last 60 years of perpetual brainwashing we've received… just a thought. I really wish you idiots would pack this dumb meme away. Sure empathy plays a part but your view of our nature is not compatible with historical fact. You have simply picked this meme up and are now propagating it without actually thinking about how true it is.

Read a book, nigger.

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And how was this made possible? Are Whites being forcibly reeducated? No, it's because we allowed our enemies to dictate their policies to us, out of compassion and the assumption that they would see the light.

If people say IQ doesn't exist then bring up the noise that was made over Flint.

No need, dumbass.

Going to school is compulsory in most countries and the curriculum is filled with propaganda and Marxist horseshit. They are being forcibly brainwashed from birth. They are being forcibly brainwashed by definition. They force this stuff so hard that having alternative opinions, even based on science, is enough to get you ostracised from society and fired and exiled from academia because everyone is thoroughly brainwashed and the elite – they don't want you spreading truth and wish to demoralise you. Look no further than James Watson, he co-authored with Francis Crick the academic paper proposing the double helix structure of the DNA molecule. He dared mention race realism, just IQ differences, and was subsequently punished. He was exiled from academia and had to sell his fucking Nobel just because he needed the money. Fast forward a few months ago, he signed up for Twitter and was almost instantly banned just for existing. Not only are we being forcibly brainwashed in school but everywhere – even on shitposting social media sites.

You are the perfect example of the unthinking moron who plagues this site. And before you attempt retort, just because one does not know they are being forced to do something does not are not being forced.

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But that wasn't even my point nigger. Of course the brainwashing isn't obvious to those inside the system, the question was how we got to that point.

You asked me if they are being re-educated and that is not true, you fucking imbecile. I told you. You are beyond retarded. If it is not true, we did not "allow" them to dictate, just like you did not allow them to brainwash you in school. It was never even a choice. We have been forced since birth to believe that only being a suicidal lemming cuckold is the right thing to do. And we are forced to act in those beliefs.

You are the fucking nigger.

The fuck did crawl up your ass and die? Did you check IDs? You seem to be mistaking me for another poster.

Less than 100 years ago Whites had the direction of their own countries firmly in hand. We didn't allow Jews or shitskins to have a say in what we did. This all changed within a fucking flash and I'm asking how this could happen. My answer is: Too much trust in our racial enemies. Trust is GIVEN, not TAKEN, therefore it must have been at least partially our own fucking fault.

There is a fairly large Circassian population is coastal northeast Turkey.

Since this place became a shillhole, I no longer check IDs.

You get to where we are now by starting small. They pull a sleight of hand and get you believing in one bullshit thing without your permission and build up from there. Eventually you get forced into a prison without even realising it. Choice implies option and there wasn't one in the first place.

Nope, whites have been been under control since the French Revolution. And even Napoleon was a controlled opposition agent. Read history books. Read about Volkisch philosophers in WW1 and WW2 Germany. Take a look at the writings of nationalist philosophers. Those who stood for Blut und Boden were effectively silenced. The only period they had any sense of great freedom was when Hitler was in power. So that claim is a load of fucking horseshit.

Here's how it works now.

Either this is true.
Or having your house burgled is also an "option". In which case, you have reduced yourself into absurdity.

Almost everyone with a half-decent college level education in anything related to genetics knows GxE is the best explanation for nearly any genetic trait.
GxE is the interaction between genetics and environment, it isn't genetics alone or environment alone. Nor is it the effect of genetics alone plus the effect of environment alone. It's the interaction between those two factors.
Some traits are more deterministic in terms of genetics, others are more plastic based on environmental factors, but they all essentially are the product of GxE.

Is this a book? Does anyone have it?

I'm translating it from German and the cover art you see is mine.

And here we have a good example of the low end of the bell curve. Remember, if the average white person's IQ is 100, then half of all white people fall below that number. Sadly, once they're old enough to shitpost, they're probably too old to gain any benefit from improved diet or training.

Years decadency can subdue the most intelligent of people. What we need are incentives to make white people want to survive and produce again, "Live Long and Prosper Again!". (and have more kids)

What got many was the "You could do and be anything." meme. The others fell for it, added the "All men are created equal", "lucky to be in this country, most migrants struggle to come here" cherry on top. Those poor souls bought the equality and consumerist koolaids, they pursued many useless degrees, bought all the fancy furniture and plastic, have multiracial friendships and romances, and now they're soulless, unhappy, indebted, and ultimately replaced. I never had an false hopes, expectations, or ideals. I have no idea how these lemmings do it.

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This world is such a useless piece of shit. Makes you wish the God of the Old Testament would come back and nuke us with fire because the faggotry levels are way too fucking high for any sane person to handle.

this. with good upbringing and enough time and resources spent you can raise IQ a few points. For example, Coco had between 75 and 95. But there are limits.

It is self obvious that everybody should strive to make their own IQ as high as possible. There is a question of return in spending resources and energy on process that will have limited results. There is higher cost benefit ratio in raising IQ of already high IQ individual then in lower IQ individual. you get better ROI (return on investment).

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but 130 130 IQ chinese people are properly raised, fed and educated. Does anybody have IQ results for china before let us say…1980 ? or older ? China is investing heavily in raising high IQ people. It is one of the most important aspects of chines (communist ?) system. China has free education, free health care..it is only logical they are this far ahead with IQ race. It is not because chines are smarter (have higher IQ). It is because their system is made to raise IQ of people living there. And it shows.

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For example. system in US (education) is made do dumb down children not to rise IQ. Also, environment (food, media) is also made to in a way to dumb down population. it is easier to rule like that. But, consequences of that is lower IQ.

It's important to note how absolutely pathetic those numbers are. You need something like 110 to be able to learn from written material.

This is the process of selection. There still needs be higher IQ parents to breed for high IQ children. What you are describing is Chinese eugenics in action. The Chinese are creating a society that is best suited for higher IQ, the rest at bottom at the ones sleeping in cages and are on the lower social credit score.

and results are impressive. are they not ?
we can talk about ethics of eugenics and this and that…but china is producing high IQ population in mass numbers. 100 years ago they were mostly low IQ peasants. It would be interesting to see difference in IQ from 20 - 30 - 50 years ago and today.

I’m Turkish, however my ancestors come from the caucas mountains. Circassians to be exact. I’ve done many tests and every single time I get around 125 IQ. I look white, but even I’m not as delusional or a traitor to my kind to even dare identify as a european. Maybe you could’ve been an honorary aryan in Nazi Germany. Yet you shouldn’t want that.
You are you. You are part of a family and people you didn’t choose. If you don’t like them then change them. Hitler didn’t like the state of his country at first either.
I was born and raised in belgium. I know you guys hate Turks. Their mixed genes and modern islamic culture. I admire white people a lot, but you people don’t seem to understand empires come and go and with these changing times so many races have claimed superiority.
You also don’t understand that races keep changing. National Socialism can apply to any people and that will bring out the best in them. Given enough time these people will become the best race in the world. Europeans have a headstart, but you’re taking it for granted. Understand this. With enough time and proper guidance even the most low IQ africans could become the greatest civilization. (With a LOT of time and guidance that is).

The point here is: stop worshipping other races. Bring strength and power to yourself. With that, bring strength and power to your family. With that, bring glory to your PEOPLE.
No matter how low your race ranks. The point is STRUGGLE. If it takes 10000 years you still have only one option in the race of races. Go forward. Fight. You can call people chinks, niggers,… but don’t get arrogant. White race realists think their superior genes are a god given gift. They forget the ice ages their ancestors had to endure while africans where dancing around fires. They forget the mindset the Nordic people grew up leading to manifestations as ODIN and valhalla. To never die outside a battle.

You need to bring power in every form (intelligence, knowledge, wealth, ….) to yourself, then family, then people. Anything else is utterly and completely irrelevant. The people on this board think they’re so fucking much. Ask youself, what the fuck have you done to further your people? Pride in your people is great. It’s beautiful. But, what have you done to deserve your peoples valhalla. Are you raising strong white children? Are you bringing greatness to your people? Or are you just another useless eater? Are you yet another parasite?
Don’t even try answering these questions on here. I don’t care about your state. Those are questions you should ask yourself.

I only come here for info and knowledge. Arguments for and against NatSoc. I come here for the lack of censorship.

- Proud Turk who wants nothing but greatness for his people and country.

I am a traitor to a people I don't want to be part of and have no similiarities to except for my genetics, I don't see the problem in that.

I don't worship the white race, nor am I supportive of National Socialism.
I identify as German because I have grown up with them, learnt their language and culture first and only ever had German girlfriends.
Your post is kind of strange because you think I can change anything as a shy, autistic failure of a human by becoming a leader.
That is not realistic thinking, it's more of a wishful thinking. I am not going to learn Kurdish, live with them, travel to the poor Kurdish regions because of a delusion that I can help them.

ITT I only had IQ in mind. Furthering the discussion to racial supremacy was not my intention, nor in my interest.

FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY. END OF STORY.

Um depression prob due to low vitamin D because your shitty shit colored skin is not very good at generating it from the meager sun.

And nah mate you are almost certainly a dumbfuck.

Your European ancestors did not have these qualms when they betrayed their people, reverted to Islam and started growling this disgusting mongoloid pidgin you call "language".

So you are a Turkish shit skin with brown eyes and middle eastern features?

Yeah, I have a major deficiency. Things are looking better when I started taking supplements and bought a sun lamp.

Fuck off mate. You are Not European and never will be. You are not ethnically , culturally or spiritually European, FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

You can't just identify as Germanic. You're either one of us or you aren't. There's no being something you aren't.

Drown in semen shitskin

Not just that. It is fucking disgusting that he is even considering that he is German, like fucking Europe isn't suffering enough right now because of his fellow peoples filth. The best thing he can do right now for these " Europeans" he so identifies with is suicide bombing himself right next to as many shit-skins as possible. Then he may become an honorary Turd-fish man.

I identify as German by culture, not by heritage

In other words you are not culturally German or ethnically German or fucking German at all. You are a middle easterner who needs to fuck off before someone kills ya.

Maybe the vitamin D isn't the on cause of your depression. It could be that your father is a closet gay who has fucked you up the ass too many times, and has threatened to kill you if you tell the family mosque?

I wasn't sexually abused by my father, I think he used the marriage between him and my mother to stay permanently in Germany.
I hate that guy, anyway.

Me and others here wouldn't be pissed off at you if you didn't consider yourself us. Because it is pretty fucking obvious that you are not us.

So he did fuck you up the ass? did he mistake you for a goat?

Well no shit, and you are using you citizenship to claim you are an actual German.

He is just as bad as you, you are the one who for no reason what so ever thinks he is German.

Lot of IQ threads recently. Must mean Tel Aviv University is going to release a retarded story line by a whittle girl proving that IQ of niggers is second only jews.

Why do you keep fantasizing about me and my father, it is weird how much you wish I was raped in the ass, considering you most likely hate gay degenerates.

Just because you don't agree with the reasons does not mean I don't have any reasons.
I have German friends who are completely fine with me identifying as one.

Turk here

Power, my friend. POWER.
Do you truly think you're worthless? If so, then why even want to be part of any people. Killing yourself in that state of mind seems the only way out.
Boohoo! I'm autistic and shy. Label yourself all you want, but you don't have to become the Kurdish Hitler to not be a parasite. I wrote that you should simply chase power in any form you can and use it to make you, your family and your people better.
Power is like a hammer. It can be used to build and destroy. But those without it don't even have that choice.

hahaha, why do you even hate Turks and muslims? No, really? Where does it come from? Do you honestly think muslims are invading your homeland on purpose. Do you think niggers just swim across the sea?
Arabs and niggers aren't nearly intelligent enough to even come up with something like this.
Either you two are shills or you two are parasites to your own people as well. You do know the jew brought your people to its knees. And here you are, insulting the very bullet the jew shot.

There is no debate. History and accomplishments by group end any form of debate and make it obvious which groups are top of the line and which aren't even human.

Muslim Turks and Arabs and black african , Moroccans etc rape everything that has a hole. Rape rates have gone up 500% in the last 15 years in Germany thanks to you guys.

Can also just mean being a citizen does not change your Turkish ethnicity to a Germanic one You are racially an Islamic shit skin.

Because they are left wing morons who hate themselves because of the holocaust.

Checked for nigger nostradamus prediction

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Over 700 Years of you guys "ottoman Turks" trying to invade the whole of Europe? and selling us off as slaves? We also had fucking en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur who was always a looming threat. Then the fucking Moors en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors all who raided the southern parts of Europe consistently without pause.Then of course your current behavior of opportunistic invasion, which matches your long history of invading Europe.

Nobody is forcing them to just fucking arrive. Almost all of them are economic refugees.

You want us to accept shit skins as Europeans

You choose to come here………We should Just kill you all.

If God has chosen his favoured people among the nations, that does not mean those people necesarily would know that. On the contrary, would God not try to challenge that people, so they could prove their worthiness, their loyalty and HUMILITY? Can you imagine a more arrogant, lazy, imbicile creature than a human that already knows he is divinily favored? You are so right that national socialism is for all peoples edification; the answer to God's question: will you struggle for me?

Fuck of Christ - tard. Jesus Zig Forums is full of crazies

1. IDGAF about Muh anecdote. Your IQ does not change the strong relation between average and individual IQ. Whatever environmental factors, you will always subject to the regression towards the average IQ of your ethnic group.
2. war and trauma could have affected your parents' IQ
3. you've used European education and technology. Yes Western educationworks well for you, but it could never have existed without white genetics in the first place. Culture arises out of nature, not the other way around. Your higher IQ can explained as a result of your white teacher and other professionals making an effort to raise your IQ. Effort that could be spend on our own children. You can't have universities without whites leading them. Look at Israëli professionals in universities: white supremacy if there ever was such.

Keep telling yourself that

So you mean an environmental IQ for the Op rather than a genetic one? (please note) "I highly doubt this fucker has ever taken a Stanford-Binet or Ravens matrix test, or any IQ test. "

OP says he done his tests in Germany.
I'm saying his father could gotten the same score, had he not been in war, but around nice white people.

That would mean evolution is impossible. Humans would still have literal reptile brains. Regression to the mean every time.

GO FUCKING BACK YOU DUMB NIGGER FAGGOT
THANKS RON

Sigh. You dont understand how this works. No you personally shouldnt average 90, IQ 90 just means that if you take 1000 random kurds and test them the 50%th percentile will have 90 IQ. The probability of a kurd having an IQ score like yours is perhaps 7-8%. Swarthy non-white caucasians like kurds are not only handicapped by a lower IQ score, they are also far more asocial than whites which means that high levels of crime and corruption are endemic to their societies.

Haha, you are subhuman and have to go back to plebbit.

Now, on the topic of IQ, it is a matter of fact that your specific, anecdotal situation is not proof of anything in a larger context. If anything, the exception (you) confirms the rule. IQ is almost completely genetic and parents are much more likely to have offspring that has similar IQ levels to their own. Since you are an exception to the positive side, there is also highly probably a Kurdish family with a child exceptionally below their own intellect. This is how mean distributions work. If you want proof of IQ being genetic and consistent on a population level, I advise you to look up the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study.

He made up an IQ because he thinks Europe is a refuge for people from all races who think they are smart. He thinks this might justify his unwelcome presence in Europe.

You can identify yourself as whatever you want to. Its what others identify you as that is important, and they wont identify you as a German.

Absolutely subversive.

Ok, I don't care if anyone calls me a nigger, shitskin or tells me to kill myself in a 100 different ways.
You can call me anything but don't put your bubbly agenda-thinking conspiracy into my mouth.

Me and my brothers had severe problems in school because we were anti social, literally all 3 of us used to be mute and only talked to eachother and parents.
We were forced by the government to start visiting psychiatrists (I guess paid by our health insurance since I sometimes had to give them my card) when one of us stopped visiting school altogether and it became a huge drama all of the sudden (skipping out on school as a minor is a serious offence in Germany).
Many of our therapists started testing our social and intellectual skills through questioning, and later on in life have given us IQ tests to see whether we are challenged too much or too little by school.
I asked the therapist to also do IQ on both of my parents, and the week after they got to know their results.

I want Kurds to disappear from Germany.

My friends already do, and that's all that counts in the long run.

Well that includes you doesn't it you stupid fuck.

Your "friends" do not want to be considered racist. You friends are trapped in a country that hates its own people. You are taking advantage of that.

If you didn't care you wouldn't start this thread, and you wouldn't reply to my insults you stupid autistic ugly as fuck shit skin. Allahu Akbar already mr Muhammad.

Yep you are a retarded 85 IQ-er with the socialising abilities of a dead snail. And Who looks like his own shit.

Kill the infidels. Praise Allah the Merciful.

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There is no need to resort to shitposting, friend.
My 85 IQ does not comprehend your epic trolls.