Catholics of Zig Forums, how do you rectify the Church leadership with your views of National Socialism? Raised Catholic, I recognize it's value as a foundation of Western society. Nowadays, from the Pope to my local pastor, the Church as an organization seems to be diametrically opposed to the values that I hold.
Not only does the Pope openly call for immigration, he continues to avoid the child abuse scandals. Personally, these are things that I can't abide by. So what's your solution? How do you call yourself a National Socialist while at the same time be represented by this current pope?
In a more local sense, the churches around me are just as bad. As I began to get older I started exploring different parishes to see if there was one that better fit my beliefs, but they were all just different shades of Socialist and Liberal. Do I just pick the most tolerable? Do I leave the Church? Whats the best course of action?
To be clear, I don't want this to be a debate on being Catholic itself, just your personal relationship with the Church. So kindly fuck off with your accusations of worshipping a kike or belonging to a desert cult.
How can you square NS with the Mit brennender Sorge encyclical?
Jace Campbell
Shabbat ramp-up D&C, yay!
Evan Hill
The RCC is run just like any other institution managed by kikes. The pope is a filthy kike from my observations and getting rid of the taint will be a long an arduous fight. Things were much the same in the early 20th century because Church leadership had begun dealing with heebs back in the 19th century, which left a backdoor open for them to use. However, remember that we the laypeople are part of the Church too and that so long as we honor the memory of the Church fathers' tradition and stay true to the original cause (fighting world jewry at every step) we can still take back the reins when the circumstances allow it.
Julian Kelly
You're fine to believe in God if you want, but don't pretend that you can support a Church, much less a (((modern Church))) while praising National Socialist beliefs. God was created to make the stupidest segments of the population accept the morals necessary for a proper society through fear of eternal damnation, because they can't understand the inherent value of those morals.
Catholicism intentionally plays down race and ethnicity and its official doctrine states that racialists are guilty of worshipping their own flesh and blood. Also, most Catholics in the world are subhuman shitskins
Hudson Brooks
There's a bit of an anti-Christian theme here on Zig Forums. This is stupid, because old testament Christianity would have us genociding our neighbors and salting their fields. There is a lot of good stuff in the bible. Even the Jesus stuff is useful for the times when you find yourself living in occupied territory hint hint.
Joshua Young
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Ian Jackson
Remember all the countries that teamed up with Hitler and fought the Bolsheviks and kikes? The foreign volunteers that joined the Axis forces? Then went on to provide safe haven to national socialists? Niglet detected.
Juan Cooper
>>>Zig Forums
David Cooper
Interesting that a LARP-ing pagan should call something a cargo cult. Perhaps the irony will dawn on you some day.
Dominic Thompson
The (((Post-Vatican II Church))) is not the real church, but the end times counter church, there is not any real catholic leadership nowadays.
The Catholic Encyclopedia , “Heresy,” 1914, Vol. 7, p. 261: “ The pope himself, if notoriously guilty of heresy, would cease to be pope because he would cease to be a member of the Church.”
The Council of Florence (A.D. 1438-1445) From Cantate Domino — Papal Bull of Pope Eugene IV
"We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race" End of thread.
Isaiah Ortiz
The sad part is the constant shit flinging in my opinion. The same people who yell d&c are the ones who divide themselves between pagans and Christians.
Let's say that this is the anti-Church, in that heretical sense. Definitely not a far leap. What does that mean? Does that give permission to stop receiving communion if the Church itself is invalid? It seems like a pretty serious action to take.
Ryan Green
It doesn't only give permission not to do it, it's encouraged, because it's not a real comunion, but a mere joke. Christ is not being sacrificed anymore, you are only eating bread from a priest's hand.
I'm no proddie who believes everyone can be their own pope and that salvation can be obtained by saying you're sorry on your deathbed but the RCC today is so fake and gay with its milque-toast regurgitation of liberation theology that I've never bothered going to church and neither have my parents. I believe most members of other denominations feel this way about their church. Still, you can count on me to fight for a turnaround and the reestablishment of the Kingdom of God any day of the week.
Luke Garcia
Is it good nationalist policy to have your intellectuals not reproduce? This is what catholicism has been doing for thousands of years, catholicism decapitated europe through priestly celibacy preventing many intellectuals from reproducing.
Well, I'm glad you have such keen insight into priests' sex lives throughout the centuries and whether they reproduced or not. Regardless, you didn't have to be a priest to be an intellectual.
Owen Lewis
You make a lot of sense. Ultimately, Im assuming theres no alternative then right? How would you manage to maintain a personal relationship with God without the Church?
The disappointing thing is I see a lot of people with this kind of opinion, that there are a lot of traditional values still within the Church, just totally absent from leadership.
Angel Brooks
Catholicism is heresy. The "church" is totally owned by jews and has been since Vatican II. You can't reconcile THAT.
Noah Wright
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Owen King
Pray, avoid sin and ask Him for forgiveness; I am sure He understands the situation His Church is in and will be merciful with us
you don't rectify the leadership you acknowledge that the synagogue of satan infiltrated the church long ago and controls it, with a freemason anti-pope among others, and look for the least kiked version of The Holy Bible
Michael White
It is whatever it needs to be to unpoz the church. If that means freeing the church from Jews then so be it.
Carson Taylor
And if we need to take off and nuke it from orbit then we will do that instead.
Jonathan Jackson
Guess what, OP the faggot? It is. Vatican kike control and church taxes are plain undermining. Catholics have a completely opposing world view of one human entity where every nigger and chink is worth as much as you. You have to decide. There are many options: * be Christian but not Catholic kike pope follower and don't pay catholic church tax * no religion * any other religion Options are basically everything but Bible Students or Catholic church.
Sage because the thread is useless.
Thomas Thompson
Martin Luther already did it but many even in Germany are still Catholic.
Oliver Hernandez
Pray in the silence of solitude the one temple that you actually have control of. That's about it. They have pozzed everything else back to sodom and gamorrah.
John Hughes
Why is Catholicism so important to you? just leave if you don't like it Catholicism is of second importance to NatSoc
Dominic Moore
Catholics have political power. NatSoc's do not and are just larping wank fantasy promoted be Jews.
Brayden Turner
Yeah, die evangelische Kirche and the other offshoots of Christianity are so much better when it comes to poz. You know what, although laymen still harbor their individual differences stemming from the churches they belong to their respective leaderships appear to be all in on the NWO scheme. This might actually prove useful in the long run.
William Taylor
Hello, shill.
Eli Bennett
Go back to grammar school.
Christianity and NS did work. Kike dick suckers were simply brought into concentration camps.
Dominic Thomas
Maybe you need to go back to school if you think NS worked then or is working now.
Chase Jackson
The Myth of the Twentieth Century, by Alfred Rosenberg
Here is neither Jew nor Greek, here is neither slave nor free, here is neither man nor woman, wrote Paul to the Galatians — that last remnant of a great Celtic migration down the Danube valley and into Asia Minor. On the basis of this nihilism, which is a denial of everything organic, he then calls for a belief in Christ. This constituted a total rejection of all the culture creating values of Greece and Rome — although to be sure, Christianity took over a degenerate form of such values — and effected their disintegration.
The Vatican has again made itself known as the bitterest enemy of the improved breeding of the biologically valuable, and as the protector of the preservation and propagation of the inferior. Even to serious catholic eugenicists, Pope Pius declared — at the beginning of 1931 in his encyclical Concerning Christian Marriage — that it was not lawful to restrict men who were capable of entering into a marriage, but could only give life to inferior offspring; to in any way prevent propagation because of the inviolability of the body. The individual man has the right to use his own limbs. He must use them corresponding to their natural purpose. This was revealed by reason and by the catholic Christian moral doctrine, and the worldly authority never has the right to go beyond this. To set up unrestricted propagation of idiots, the children of syphilitics, alcoholics and the insane as a Christian moral doctrine is undoubtedly the height of a thinking that is hostile to nature and folk. This has today been declared to be impossible by us. In reality, it represents nothing other than the necessary outflow of that racially chaotic system that Syrian African Roman dogma has forged. Therefore, every European who would like to see his people physically and spiritually healthy, and who takes the stand that idiots and the incurably sick infect his nation, will have to permit himself to be represented, according to Roman teaching, as anticatholic, as an enemy of the Christian moral doctrine. And he will have to choose if he is the anti Christ, or if the Founder of Christianity can really have himself conceived — as a dogma — the unrestricted breeding of all kinds of inferior types. This is what His representative boldly demands. Therefore, whoever wishes for a healthy and spiritually strong Germany must passionately reject this encyclical. Such is the work of a pope who aims at the breeding of subhumanity. We thus reject Roman thought as antinatural and hostile to life.
The church has given every murdered missionary the stamp of a martyrdom and named him a saint. Even when Emmeram, represented by Christian tradition as a Jew, violated the daughter of the Bavarian duke and was therefore killed, the infallible church declared this disgraceful end as dying for the faith. Today Emmeram is a saint to whom prayers are uttered in pious Regensburg. But it is the duty of a coming German generation to mention with great respect only the names of those who in storm and wrack fought for the greatness and honour of the German people. We will honour them for what they are: martyrs of the folkish faith. Here, in this corner of our soul, lives the hope that the peoples of Europe will one day recognise the nature of the present frightful catastrophe. We hope that they will recognise the folkish Leader who is coming soon. We hope they will recognise what is most precious; the human blood of their nation. We hope they will become everywhere conscious that an application of the latter principle can be the only final solution. It is not found in heeding the call of any kind of Christianity or of liberal pacifism.
Can someone tell me how much of this is Satanic Catholic child molesters molesting children and how much is the Jews winning exclusive control over the west's morality once and for all?
Carter Clark
>NS worked Maybe you just got to >>>/trannypol/ and kill yourself before we help you do it.
Jason Gutierrez
*go
Nicholas Myers
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE
FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT BOARD >>>(((/CHR*STCUCK/)))
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Luke Nelson
If you're going to be a ChristCuck, why would you choose the most Jew'd form? Cathlocs are pretty much Christian Masons who corrupted every element of the Bible, and serve their own interests. They are the reason that Christianity is laughed at, and they have killed entire cultures in an assimilation crusade. They are the reason Science was oppressed. Napoleon was a great man, but his greatest mistake was bringing the Cathloc Church back to France in an effort to stop the Cult of Reason degenerates, when he could have formed a new church under the superior Cult of the Supreme Being.
Christendom is bad, but Catholism is glow-in-the-dark since its inception. They were the downfall of Post-Rome, and the whole of Europa.
Tyler Evans
The Pope says vague things that could mean anything.
Cameron Brown
Look at all these kikes and LARPagans in this thread. Sadly the catholic church has been infiltrated long before vatican II but it was one of the last nails in the coffin. Sedevacantism is the only way imho. Also laughing at all the protestants in here claiming their heresy is less pozzed when you guys literally have female priests.
Carson Martinez
can't help you, sorry.
Logan Powell
It began much earlier with Antipope Benedict XIII and his inability to stop jews from binding books with the names of Jesus or Mary in them or producing golden chalices or crucifixes back in the 15th century. The jews got a new pope elected within 5 years, Martin V, who repealed all those anti-semitic laws and Antipope Benedict XIII was excommunicated and was forced to flee.
It must have been terrible for those jews, 5 whole years out of business, no wonder its considered the most anti-semitic legal dictate from the Catholic Church in all its history.
The jewish masonic conspiracy I want you to know kikes are behind masonry.
Ethan Murphy
Check out FSSP if you want to hear homilies that directly warn against the heresy of liberalism and even naming the juden on occasion
Isaac Reed
National Socialism on homosexuality Heinrich Himmler Speech to the SS Group Leaders (18 February 1937)
A hundred and fifty years ago someone at a Catholic university wrote a doctoral thesis with the title: "Does a woman have a soul?" From this the whole tendency of Christianity emerges: it is directed at the absolute destruction of women and at emphasizing the inferiority of women. The entire substance of the priesthood and of the whole of Christianity is, I am firmly convinced, an erotic union of men (Männerbund) for the erection and maintenance of this 2000-year old Bolshevism. I reach that conclusion because I know very well the history of Christianity in Rome. I am of the conviction that the Roman emperors, who eradicated (ausrotteten) the first Christians, did exactly the same thing that we are doing with the communists. These Christians were then the worst yeast which the great city contained, the worst Jewish people, the worst Bolsheviks that there were.
It relies on Paul and the very first apostles who derogate the woman as something sinful and permit or recommend marriage as merely a legal way out of prostitution - that is in the Bible - and derogate the procreation of children as a necessary evil. This priesthood continues along in this way for several centuries until in 1139 the celibacy of priests is fully implemented.
I assume that in the monasteries the homosexuality ranges from 90 or 95 to 100 percent.
The German woman, not the man, has borne the greater sacrifice of blood in the witch and heretic trials.
The only way, is to seek to become pope of have your Hitler become pope… wait that is an interesting concept… what if Hitler became Pope instead of Fueher. Hitler could then make the race laws official church doctrine by speaking canonically. How would history be different nya~? meguca.org/nya/
Maybe Himmler the feminist should have put women in control of is third reich instead of him and the jew plant Adolf. 100 million Whites would still be alive today.
In 2000 years the only thing to not evolve is man's concept of Religion. Very sad.
Bentley Powell
Here's a reply that will be well worth your time, OP.
The man who created the documentary "The Greatest Story Never Told" has been speaking on this subject recently. Take a look at the four most recent episodes of Truth Will Out Radio. Specifically all three episodes of "The Church Behind Fascism", and "The Vatican and the Reich". Link below.
That mumbling fool Wise barely ever mentions the European race. Its always about Christians, Christians, Christians, "Lucifer". One won't get to the bottom of things from someone's work who pushes the Christian propaganda in the mix with truth.
Christianity replaces race (nation) thinking in its adherents.
Andrew Baker
He uses the word "Aryan" on a regular basis, and continually names the Jew. You're either mislead, or ignorant, and I don't mean that in offense.
Jaxon Jackson
It does…that is why Judeo Christianity or anything to do with that fucking faggot kike 'Paul' is totally 100% toxic as fuck. We need to take that shit BACK mein nigger and forge Indo-Christianity based on Ethnoglobalist-Nationalist (meaning nationalist until we achieve Ethnoglobe/the full extermination of the global enemy) principles of slaughter of our enemies…the burning of their women and children en masse if even a single hair on one of the heads of our own is breathed on by their nigger filth. The gradual extermination of the lesser race until there is nothing left but Whites to inherit the Earth. The return of masculine strength and the FUCKING PUBLIC DEATH of people who want to poison our water supplies, food supplies or permit usury in our nations (it was only 200 years ago that this was a public FLAYING ALIVE OFFENSE and we need to bring it back as well as the fucking BOGGING OF FAGGOTS; which would decrease our kike population to almost nothing since their are genetically homosexual).
Cooper Ward
Oh cool digits.
Aaron Ortiz
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Caleb Scott
Deny that Paul is a fucking kike that UTTERLY DESTROYED our European culture, you faggot.
Ayden Cruz
E. Michael Jones Traditional Latin Mass Rerum Novarum
Stand firm to the one true faith. Catholicism is opposed to socialism and capitalism. Distributism. Stick with Chesterton
Caleb Bailey
Christianity has a Jewish eschatology structure (ie: Messiah, Judgement Day / mass genocide, New World). Anything with that structure is of the Jew, implies our genocide, and will lead to what we have today as a precursor to that genocide.
There can be no National Socialist Jewish sub-cult. The concept is self-contradictory. You are attempting to work on fundamentally corrupt and hostile soil.
Camden Hughes
Agreed. Logos be with you.
Daniel Roberts
Okay
Jaxon Martin
People who don't stick forks in outlets are guilty of worshipping their nerve endings.
Hudson Torres
catholocism is just the same thing they do to find the dalai lama it's called the white rite when the old one kicks the bucket their paid goons find the successor psychically.
Lincoln Robinson
We literally have an example of a deathbed conversion in the Bible (the penitent thief crucified alongside Christ), and Christ explicitly says he's saved. Your problem is that you think salvation is earned by us, which it isn't and could never be. It was earned by Christ's sacrifice, and given to us freely as a gift.
Andrew James
This place is really degenerating.
Kayden Cox
you are actually a legitimate fucktard if you are a catholic no you arent you belong to a group based around the vatican as a central bank and a cult of faggot child molestors kill yourself
Connor Edwards
Catholics had a political party…Why wouldn't they want to vote for the catholic party instead of the Neo-Larper party?
Logos (UK: /ˈloʊɡɒs, ˈlɒɡɒs/, US: /ˈloʊɡoʊs/; Ancient Greek: λόγος, translit. lógos; from λέγω, légō, lit. 'I say') is a term in Western philosophy, psychology, rhetoric, and religion derived from a Greek word variously meaning "ground", "plea", "opinion", "expectation", "word", "speech", "account", "reason", "proportion", and "discourse",[1][2] but it became a technical term in Western philosophy beginning with Heraclitus (c. 535 – c. 475 BC), who used the term for a principle of order and knowledge.[3]
Ancient Greek philosophers used the term in different ways. The sophists used the term to mean discourse; Aristotle applied the term to refer to "reasoned discourse"[5] or "the argument" in the field of rhetoric, and considered it one of the three modes of persuasion alongside ethos and pathos.[6] Stoic philosophers identified the term with the divine animating principle pervading the Universe.
