Could we ever actually form an independent state for anons

No we can't fight the US military you retard.

We'd need to pool money to buy sparsely or uninhabited land.

Before you say God wouldn't help us or God doesn't exist. We are a moral crowd and compared to Jews we are compassionate. God would probably help us and retake the holy city once and for all.

Short answer: no.

Long answer: there is nowhere in the entire world (save for a small patch of uninhabitable desert, and even that is debatable) that isn't owned, claimed, set aside, or declared un-claimable, where you can set up any sort of independent state. And even if you could, for example, pitch a city of tents for anons in Bir tawil, it wouldn't be a "state". Nobody would recognize you, your people, your currency, or your laws, and you would have no real ability to defend yourself. At best, if you managed to gather enough armed Zig Forumsfags, you'd be considered in the international community to be a weaksauce version of ISIS, except with an ideology that will be laughed at uproariously.

Yet we have nameless people running our countries behind the scenes.

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Antartica.
I agree though. At least Whites should colonise Mars then nuke Earth.

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Let's get back on topic because I don't want this to turn into a christianity is shit thread number 200000 even though I have made my opinion clear. This honestly wouldn't work because their is no hospitiable land that is still avaliable and it would take some time to distribute the land. Then you also need to realize that we would need women which is the biggest problem. Especially if we wanted a white ethnostate. Its pretty much impossible to go on for many generations with such a small selection of women. It would simply result in large amounts of inbreeding. Only way we could potentially build up the state is by either convincing women to come over which is nearly impossible or simply going to technology which I wouldn't want because I want a family.

So you'd be British. Okay?

Falls under the "declared to be un-claimable" set; you can set up research stations, but if you try to bring guns you'll probably get yourself forcibly removed or bombed.

Although if you can somehow form a functioning community in a place where there is zero ability to produce economic wealth, I'd be highly impressed. What are you gonna do? Mine shitposts like coal…?

Not even going to entertain this.

What we do is colonise mars and set up an iron mining operation.
Then when we ship the iron back to Earth we fill the iron containers with nukes.
The mutt earthlings will never suspect it.

You lack vision. With enough money and an army you can claim Antartica.
With space ships the moon and mars are perfectly obtainable.

Yeah, and if you had a little pony you could play cowboy, but you FUCKING DON'T. As long as we're fantasizing, let's just pretend that I'm God and I'll snap my fingers and make everyone else disappear. Then the entire world is mine.

If we owned land in the western hemisphere we could create a makeshift alliance with Russia and offer our land as an expansion of their sphere of influence
Think Cuba 1960s

Also I don't think Women will be that big of a problem.

Every piece of land is owned by some sort of state entity unless you want to build a man-made platform in international waters.

If you bought land that's 7,000+ miles from the british mainland I doubt they would send the navy in for falklands war 2.0 if you claimed independence.
Likewise if you went to the middle of nowhere in Canada and claimed independence I doubt they would send troops in to break you up.

You have no idea how far away Mars is. Quit the warhammer larp.
The moon is 1.2 light SECONDS away
Mars is 12.7 light MINUTES away

Sure, let's start with North America and see where that takes us. Here's the thing, everything is currently owned, and they ain't planning on giving anyone any of it, so you just have the one option left. Which is of course conquering it. I assure you there won't be any normalfags left by the end of that process.

But how? OK I'll answer this once and very briefly. Everything has to be set up like a powderkeg and everything needs to go balls up at the same time. The first part is basically done, not that the thumbscrews won't get tighter until part 2 happens. The second part takes into account that a tiny few people are trying to hold everything in its current degenerate pattern. And yep, it's dangerous as fuck. But if you think youre more competent than 4 out of 5 people around you, then you should be fine.

Don't like my analysis? Great, me neither. It just happens to be true, so I look right at it and prepare for a crash landing. Directly facing catastrophe and making the decision to actively confront it without fear is the only survival tactic worth a shit right now. You flinch you die

Kikes have claimed every patch of earth with their (((international laws and treaties))) , but some failed states have areas that they cannot control, we could just move there and form a community.

I'm more concerned with not having to look at modern society, unless you retake the world from the kikes, having a family is pointless in the long run anyway. You will get flooded by niggers sooner or later.

Unfortunately true

It takes months to get to
mars you low iq retarded fuck
The fastest spacecraft launched from Earth was NASA's New Horizons mission, which visited Pluto in 2015. In January 2006, the probe left Earth at 36,000 mph (58,000 kph). If such a probe traveled in a straight line to Mars, the time it would take to get to Mars would be:

Closest possible approach: 942 hours (39 days)
Closest recorded approach: 967 hours (41 days)

So what? it took Europeans a long time to get to the other side if the world by sailing ships for colonisation.

That's possible, but you've still not earned actual independence. OP seems to think that becoming a functioning country is done just by declaring it. They might not try to reconquer you by force, but what the fuck are you going to do if the UN just declares a total trade embargo on your new "country"? Anons survive on subsistence farming, maybe, but won't be able to do anything more without importing what you can't produce yourself (machines and stuff), and won't have any money if you're not able to export anything. There's still the biggest question of all: what the fuck is your economy going to be based on? Everyone here has spent their entire life in a civilized country where shit is taken care of for you. Fire service, road maintenance, plumbing, electricity, internet, cellphone service, hospitals. Without an economy to BUY those things, you aren't going to have a pot to piss in unless you scrape some copper out of the ground, melt it, and cast it yourself.

And here again, when the addition angle for survival becomes obviously impossible, we're left with the other option. Which is of course subtraction. It just is what it is, not a single one of us set up the game board this way. But that doesn't mean we still aren't on the hook for playing our next move.

Sad and retarded.

New Horizons doesn't have the capability to slow down, because it doesn't have any fuel on board to do more than pivot around. If it had more fuel, it would weigh more, and wouldn't have been able to go that fast in the first place.

So, congratulations, if you goal is to crash into the Martian atmosphere at 36,000mph, you can get there in 41 days. But if you would rather not, learn some fucking orbital mechanics and come back later.

He thinks Iceland is like Antarctica.
Lol.

There are decently sized uninhabited islands on both sides of the canadian coast as well as large uninhabited areas of the mainland. It all depends on how public you want to be.

(You)
Mars will never be viable for anything other than mining missions. The gravity would turn you into frail weaklings and the lack of sun would make farming and terraforming impossible.

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That's less of a problem than the fact that Mars is geologically dead, which means it has basically no magnetic field, which means your fucked with radiation unless you build underground or stay in lead-lined buildings all the time. The level of terraforming to make Mars livable is so beyond us in technology that by then it'll make more sense to just take Mars apart and make a Dyson Swarm.

I don't think anybody would be able to find or stop you if you created a sub-state in Mongolia or Kazakhstan.

Create good relations with argentina and use your state as a symbolic act of defiance against the brits.
Also you could get favors from anti western states like Russia/China or states like Turkey who play both sides.

You realise there are resources in and around Antarctica you mutt tard?
People like you are not welcome in Snowtopia.

You can farm underground you know same reason Antractica is viable.
How about the solar powered probes that are sent there,
Never heard of greenhouses?
Lift heavier weights durr.
Forget it
This thread is brainlet country.

Finding a little island is just picking out a coffin. It's a losing strategy in the long run. I'm being deadly serious when I say that the only way out is through. What do when ambushed and surrounded? Pick a direction and pierce through. It's the only option. I'm correct in this anaylsis, most certainly.

You think the mongols would let you into their land? Khazaks i'm not sure but I heard there is a german minority in the area.

Might work, but it's a Catch-22. You have to have clout on the international stage to do this, which you can't gain until you have recognition by the international stage. A country that doesn't exist yet doesn't have any power, so nobody will care.

Buried under miles of ice and snow. You gonna dig it out of there yourself, big man?

Only worked half the year, and had less voltage than a fucking cell phone. You really do know nothing.

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I think part of your sentence cut off
Outside of islands, central asia is the best bet for staying rural and low-profile.

You might be right, they've managed to scare off China just on virtue of their strong Nationalism. Mongolians are one of the few nonwhite groups I wholly respect, moreso than japs.

Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan are also options.

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Its cute you think you are smarter than you really are but I can see how intelligent you actually are.

Theres this invention called a drill and oil rigs. Also fishing.

We need to simply dodge the collapse of modernity and let the kikes drown in their subhuman golems. The worse it becomes, the more women would want to join us. Only allow for the best and purest and let the rest consummate the society which they created in their own image. Once the majority of cattle dies, we can repopulate the world as a race of man-gods again.

Yes, some inconspicuous state like that.

You larpers are pathetic just admit you are commies.

no answers just larping.

To be fair, it was complete fantasy to begin with. It just depends how much fantasy you want to tolerate before it just becomes shitposting. But the difference is THAT guy is also scientifically ignorant as well as being economically ignorant.

If your only goal is to form some kind of commune, then it really can be ANYWHERE. In that case, the part about being an independent state doesn't add anything and in fact makes things more difficult.

Just buy some land in fucking Wyoming and LARP as Amish.

Which you will DRAG across hundreds of miles of ice and snow, right?

As for the island strategy, gaining international recognition could work if you use this tiny piece of land as a wedge between the west and other world powers and try to organize meetings with Russian diplomats etc.

You construct them at the site like they do in the real world you fucking larper.
Oil rigs are for water.

This. The concept of chutzpah is ahout how Jews look at communities that have nothing to do with them and demand that they change for the Jews. They can't help it. A little Jewish lady joins a Harley club, decides that she doesn't like going over 40mph, and kvetches til the club makes a rule banning members from riding over 40mph. World Jewry hears about some tiny desert shithole that doesn't like fags, and they launch GloboHomo til there's no country on Earth that doesn't tolerate fags. They can't help it. It's what they do. World Jewry finds out about a tiny island that just doesn't want to live around Jews, brown people, or fags, and they'll probably demand we be nuked.

Russian diplomats won't care if you're not a billionaire, though. There's still the issue of not having any power. Not even Zig Forums as it currently exists, or even "Anonymous" writ large curries any international prestige. Stick a small number of them on a deserted rock and their power even declines.

So instead of dragging a thousand ton machine over ice and snow, you're going to drag a thousand tons of PARTS over ice and snow. What a genius you are!

As for the oil rigs in the water; 1) if you're in the water you're not on Antarctica anymore, 2) Honest question: do you KNOW that Antarctica is surrounded by hundreds of miles of ice floes most of the year? I assume not.

The fuck is your iq like 50? how the fuck do you even know how to post?
Whats your race lol? turkish + nigger?

Kazakhstan and these other central asian countries are basically white land. It is similar to our European ancestral homelands and there is land to spare. Creating a racialist White diaspora there would be a very good contingency plan.

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Do me a favor and watch this for me, okay? You seem like a nice guy but you just have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Living in Antarctica is about the same as living on the top of Mt. Fucking Everest. It's simply impractical but for very short amounts of time and is completely dependent on support from the outside.

All your posts are retarded.

Going to assume you are underage and retarded and not white.

No Neets Jews or Niggers allowed.

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Look, if it's so easy, go do it! You're a big boy, go prove that it's possible. Should be easy for a genius like you!

Killing NPCs is one of the goals. After the enemy is completely genocided soon, we must go after the brainwashed NPCs and eliminate them too.

You talk like a progressive regardless of your points.

And this one is a nigger.

No one ever said itd be easy but neither is building a state anywhere on the planet yet white peoples ancestors (not yours) did just that everywhere on the earth.
Admit it you are a non-white commie.
Some south american fool.

And you've been here for thirty seconds and haven't even bothered to read any of the points.

GO DO IT MOTHERFUCKER!

Antarctica is a shit place to form a state.

Yep non-white nigger confirmed. Fuck off back to hue land you larping cunt.

Wrong its in fact perfect because of this niggers attitude>>12871095
Its so inhospitable no nigger will want to go there and only whites are smart enough to colonise it.

You'd need to align with the emerging anti-western anti-globalist bloc in order to gain international recognition.

If you buy an island in the falklands and then welcome Russia to install airbases there in a mutual financial agreement, do you think that won't stir up some major shit?

And that's a bad thing

There shill, the only (((you))) you'll be getting from me. The idea that we could somehow make it to Mars as an ESCAPE from losing on Earth is retarded and so are you

It's too inhospitable. Before anything you need to figured out production. To produce crops you need either plants that grow there lol or to create shelters where in plants can be grown. To create shelters for growing plants you need materials and a reliable and more plentiful than wind generators power source. Any form of machinery based production will also require a reliable power source. The only feasible sources of power are impracticable and underdeveloped at this time, molten salt reactors for instance. As self reliant production of any kind is infeasible at this time so too is colonization of Antarctica.

Any attempt to create an IRL organization that could snowball into an actual nation would required to meet in meatspace. By default, it would face constant "goat dancing" to borrow from the late boomer nationalist Harold Covington about being a fed honeypot. This is not an insurmountable obstacle, but an inevitable and constant one to be aware of.

Next, you can't have a nation without a leader. There would have to be some form of identity within the nation. Even if you created a culture where everyone had to wear masks in public, that mask would still be your face and identity. Everyone would simply be starting over as a new person under a new nomme-de-guerre with a new artificial face. This is as anonymous as a culture could really ever be while being a coherent nation. Otherwise it would just be an atomized confederation of anarchists who live in the same colony and are able to completely discard honor and other social contract virtues that make nationhood possible.

But you probably don't mean an anonymous nation, you mean a regular nation for people of image board culture.

Not only is it possible, it is necessary for our survival.
Without a doubt, we will go extinct if we don't step up and save ourselves through our own efforts. We can't keep waiting for a savior to descend from on high. We have to become the savior, because we, as doomers – as millennials – are the grown ups now. With the boomers on the way out, we are the majority population, entering middle age of our 30s, and literally no one else exists who could step up to put the world right.

It probably won't look like a nation at first. It will probably look like a hundred small groups of anons banding together to survive increasingly difficult financial and politicial situations, living together in larger and larger numbers. Disbanding, reforming, moving closer and closer together to increase numbers for safety against the hostility of the wider world.

And then some black swan event will happen that catches everybody off guard and makes the whole powder keg go off. The user nation might lose the war, and will then go extinct either quickly or slowly but nevertheless inevitably. Or it will win the war and enforce its culture on the others.

But in the end, anons are going to be mixed together with NPCs. Hopefully it will be as their noble caste, using the NPCs as laborers and keeping them in their place and unable to speak to us as supposed equals.

You fucking mutt you dirty nigger Mars has gravity.
Thats referring to space travel which is in months and you can recover from that.
Come on admit who you are your shut it down gimmick is hilarious.

people are going to colonise the star system regardless of your idiot views.

Mars lacks a molten core and the gravity is just over 1/3rd that of earth so the impact would still be significant.

Its already been established you can create underground farms.
Energy can be nuclear power, coal and oil.

Great point. I really believe that a full retreat and an attempt to carve out a place is a doomed venture. Tactical retreats to White areas, that's a fine idea. But the goal MUST BE to regroup and completely conquer. I don't think anything can stop civil wars happening in a lot of places at this point. I can ride to this tiger, though.

Jesus Christ the absolute triggering, the anti White hatred, the dare I say projection? So you're a kike in America, eh? Tell me, how do you feel about the oncoming doom? Fun, right? Now you're saying that Whites shouldn't fight to claim Earth, that we sbould shuttle off to a deset planet because it's too late here? Go sleep it off before you irritate me

Covington died? Damn I expected him to have at least 15 years left in him.

Metzger managed to outlive him.

No shit you can have shelters for farming I said as much in my own post.
Reliance on foreign resources and heavy water reactors, what could possibly go wrong.

Easily could all move to a small town in mass, take over local gov with votes, do what you want, the democrats do it all the time, but with Illegal aliens and anchor babies.
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city-data has tons of choices
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from 2010
The second map labels all towns across the state that have a population that’s more than 20 percent Hispanic.

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Care to explain yourself?

The resources are all local friendo.

we Rajneesh movement nao it didn't work for them but mostly because they moved too fast

Yeah, Covington died like 5 months ago or something. I was listening to his podcasts before I even considered myself a real White Nationalist, I just enjoyed listening to him for some weird reason. He didn't redpill me or anything, but he was a real monolith of this movement. Hard to believe he's gone.

ok cool, which anons volunteer to have coal mining and oil rigger jobs? Who is going to set them up?

Truth be told I kind of thought this thread was retarded when I first got here. Now I'm kind of thinking it's a worthwhile thread after all.

Logical first step is to start a corporation with that goal in mind.

every user will be conscripted to work.

Hillarious, but I would much rather pool resources with some anons to develop molten salt reactors.

This is the larper in all its glory

Admit you are not white and a commie.

You're coming off as a retard here lad.

Every conscripted user will get a cloned germanic waifu.

Reaallly? Not the guy that shrieks anti white hatred at the PRO WHITE poster. nice discord team you have there.
Fucking cunt.

I also think there's potential in exerting our ideological influence in French-Canadian sepratist circles. They're already a popular cultural-nationalist movement which is resentful towards trudeau's globo-homo policies.

How about free college while we're at it?

Yeah the guy who promises germanic clone waifus during a serious logistical discussion comes off as a bit of a retard all on his own.
It ain't a competition, two retards in a room are both retards, one isn't not retarded just because the other is MORE retarded.

Really? Projection? Who could possibly have foreseen this
K. And what. You think this works? You're triggered and need to stop now. Go tell your manager that you're projecting hard and need a day off.

Meant for

But you knew that probably

You still haven't explained your sudden sperg out and claim of anti white hatred you larping cunt.
Amazing you get owned in discussion and kneejerk to that.
What race are you lol?

I'm getting the impression you larpers still think its the 1940s

Right how could I forget it's current year and that germanic clone waifus are commonplace.

You keep referring to the logistics being insurmountable even though its established at this point in time Antartica isn't colonisable because of treaties.
Of course logistics are difficult atm when you arent able to create widespread infrastructure there.

See, I know this technique too. Get someone arguing in circles to waste time. I could say I'm a fucking alien and you wouldn't know any better, so why ask? I'll say once, calling White americans "mutts" because spics and niggers also ended up here is anti White d&c, which you know quite well, I'm sure. Spamming the thread telling Whites who you know are looking for was to form White communities to LOL GO TO MARS is also shill behavior. But shhhh, you won't have to shill much longer. Soon you may rest

Explain to me the anti white hatred you idiot.
Its already obvious you are a larping shill,paid to shit up conversation.

You didn't just read my post where I demonstrated two separate ways you're being anti White? So what, you're a shitty chatbot? I can never tell the difference between a pajeet-coded chatbot and an actual kike.

Answer the fucking question you lying larping shit.
You aren't white or welcome in the ethnostate. Pedro.

It also helps that 1 mongol is worth like 30 chinese peasants. I mean look at what happened with ghengis he basically made everyone and everything in asia his bitch except for the sea of japan's weather.

Still not sure if chatbot or kike, though. However, you did shit up the thread pretty good. I'll remember to always reply politely to White community posters.