Men are oppressed 2nd class citizens in the aftermath of the liberation of women, who are evil. Hitler was a feminist. Before feminism, Jews were recognized as the worst of men in Europe. But women were always known to be the most evil beings in the universe, if not the root of all evil, all over the world. With that in mind, please answer with YES OR NO:
THE NORMAL STUFF
1. Should women be allowed to vote or take decisions on their own and disobey men? 2. Should women mostly be confined to the house and banned from many public spaces? 3. Should women be believed in court or able to start proceedings against men in most circumstances? 4. Should women be allowed to get a higher/middle education and have "careers"? 5. Do you support relationships/marriages for love/dating and female choice in most cases? 6. Should women be allowed to own and control wealth and property for the most part? 7. Should a strict dress code be enforced for women, especially married women? 8. Do you support the FEMINIST LAWS on wife-beating and the FEMINIST LAWS on marital rape? 9. Do you support women's right to hyphenate their names? 10. Should men and society (men) have the right to dispose of useless female babies and widows? 11. Should divorce be mostly banned, especially for women?
THE LESS NORMAL (BUT STILL PRETTY NORMAL) STUFF
1. Should marriages by abduction be legal? 2. Shall we bring back woman burning, stoning, burying etc.? 3. Wife selling – yay or nay? 4. Should we adopt features from non-western patriarchies such as foot-binding (East), purdah (Middle-East) etc.?
How about FUCK OFF YOU DATAMINING GLOWNIGGER for an answer?
This is just a very long "What does Zig Forums think of X?" thread Worse still, I guarantee that 90% of the responses will just be MGTOW larping.
And while we certainly can LARP out our fantastical perfect utopia to our hearts content, in real life it's nearly impossible to police people 24/7. So all the idealized micromanaging of women as passive objects of our own idealized desires is silly. Call me a feminist all you like but it is the truth. A realistic pro-White government would already have its hands full fighting off foreign invasion and counter-revolution. Trying to create a dystopia for White women would rank very low on the list of public policy goals. And most of the people who advocate this weird Chronicles of Gor kind of social policy towards women (albeit less sexy and interesting) don't even have IRL relationships with women so it's all just theory. Anyone who actually is in a healthy relationship understands how difficult it would be to micro-manage even one woman 24/7. Difficult and exhausting really.
My own ideal society would simply be removing the unnatural hatred of men imbued in women by jewish feminism and promoting family oriented women. Men too. And replacing materialist obsession with a strong and healthy love of folk traditions. This simultaneously promotes traditionalist world outlooks in men and women but also links us spiritually with our ancestors and promotes physical fitness.
Most white men are weak and cuck for jews. Why should I give a damn about some superfluous patriarchy that would probably only enable the kikes again?
Also you've made the same anti-woman threads ad nauseum before. You're probably a mod too.
Women were considered valuable contributors to Germanic society. According to Suzanne Fonay Wemple they “provided a network of kinship ties” and “gave inspirational support and were nurturers and providers.” They were responsible for housework and at least some helped to plow fields. According to Tacitus, the wives of the barbarians went to battle with their husbands to tend wood, bring food and offer general encouragement. The historian Ammianus claimed that some of these wives also fought. Tacitus also said that the Germans “conceive that in woman is a certain uncanny and prophetic sense: and so they neither scorn to consult them nor slight their answers” and that they revered many women ancestors.
OP is pushing a foreign agenda. He is not a Zig Forums native.
Fuck off, kike. I love women, and I hate you for what you've done them and all of my people.
Here's one that's not:
cucks like you are why we are in this mess, giving women political power single handedly destroyed the west. Want to ruin a nation? Kill it's birth rates? Export feminism to it.
The goyim know about the plan to wreck the family so you can prey on the children DIE IN AN OVEN
you sound very confused, are you a woman?
Zig Forums is infested
Should women be allowed to vote and hold political power?
Women should be free to choose their husband until age 21, when they are put onto a "dating list" where they go on dates with men, in the sense of a dating website with profiles. A woman builds a profile, and dates men until a man chooses her.
If she reaches age 25 and is somehow still single, she is forced into nursing, where she will care for the elderly the rest of her life.
This gives women their ability to choose first, as women do love their ability to pick a mate. But if they do not pick a mate, then it will be a man who picks a woman, and if a woman is simply not desired whatsoever, she can still do good for the community by caring for the elderly.
If she deliberately sabotages her society or hurts the elderly, she is sterilized and forced into a jail for wicked men and women, where she will be raped the rest of her life.
No and neither should single men or people on welfare. Only married men with children should get the vote, limiting it to on vote per family unit. Yes, they're not slaves. Women need to slut shame and socially ostracize whores though Yes No, we should never assume the accused is guilty until he's found to be guilty in a court of law. Middle education yes, nothing wrong with them having a high school tier education (tiered != gov schools) and its preferable to them being utter retards Women should be able to choose a husband, however dating should be moderated more by the parents who should keep a strict eye on their daughters and the suitors. For the most part no, in some exceptions like widows then yes. No but her husband or parents should not allow her to dress like a whore. Yes, no one has the right to abuse or rape someone just because they're your wife just like you don't have the right to abuse or rape your dog because he's your pet. Non-issue, dont really give a shit Define "dispose of". She shouldn't be punished because her husband died and we shouldn't basically expel a baby just for being born female. Ask china how that shit went down. No fault divorce needs to be illegal. At fault divorce can exist but divorce should be socially stigmatized. No No No Absolutely not
Lol. Feminazi mythology. Find the evidence this bitch used to write this twisted fairy tale and get back to me Thats in every patriarchy Serving their men as needed. Nothing feminist here Nobody opposes the above.
So you have not touched on ANY of the points in the op. Make your own thread to discuss these points. Now for just a fraction of evidence regarding the points made:
WIFE SELLING – Wife selling is an English/Germanic custom ffs and carried on to the US. Wife selling became particularly popular in the 17th and 18th centuries. Germans considered the wife as negotiable property and sold them to the conquering Romans. Under the original Germanic law the husband was entitled to dismiss and even to sell his wife on the ground of her adultery. The Danes only outlawed this custom in the 11th century. Wife selling was also found in Babylon, China, Japan, Afghanistan, SE Asia, North Asia, Ancient Egypt etc.
ALSO, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ANYONE'S PERSONAL OPINION ON CHRISTIANITY, IT'S ABOUT WHAT WHITES/CAUCASIANS HAVE ALWAYS DONE Besides, Christians have a history of strongly preaching against, killing and expelling Jews (as a group).
False accusations/statements are common among women and their army. So let's look at some of the female/white-knight posts here: FALSE ACCUSATION FALSE ACCUSATION FALSE ACCUSATION FALSE ACCUSATION ==FALSE ACCUSATION ==FALSE ACCUSATION
Anyways, let's look at some of the more feminist bullshit:
This is followed by a FALSE ACCUSATION, but I'll take the bait. This is about social norms, not micromanagement at all! Learn the definition of micromanagement before posting more shit 1. White and all other women are the same evil race 2. It's just how it has ALWAYS BEEN! Those evil beings need to be controlled!! Relationships are feminist bullshit You're a feminist and your opinion doesn't matter Women's liberation always destroys the family. Family is a patriarchal structure. Women know nothing of family. Women have always been known to be extremely materialistic
^ This feminazi harps on about tradition, but completely goes against tradition, along with all the shaming tactics & abuse of course!
Hilarious. Are men a race too or do rules not apply whenever it's not convenient for you?
This is all feminist shit, fyi And our tax money is going to go on that shit? Why have a single woman at all when you can marry her off/abduct her and keep her in check using regular beatings?
They are close to slaves. Woman is a servant race. This was the case in the Greco-Roman world and Christian Europe. Germanic laws also subordinate the wife to the husband, and rightfully refer to men as the owners of women. But educating a woman only makes her more cunning. All other beings are also "retards" but we can train them well. So women should be trained too after receiving a primary education necessary for running the house/survival. This is feminist bullshit, fyi Stop white-knighting for those highly evil beings and supporting feminist restrictions on men! They can't be controlled without beating. They will turn most marriages sexless and use sex as a weapon. It's actually a core issue. She first uses the last name of her FATHER to show that she's his property, and then drops it when her owner changes. When you marry a woman, she becomes your property. That means she's your slave(almost) now and noone else's. How dare she use her father's family name when she's under your command now and has nothing to do with her family of origin??? 1.If there's nobody to keep evil in check, something has to be done. Society can't just let them roam around freely. So they should either be outcast, or as many ancient cultures prescribe: killed. 2.Female infanticide has always been the way! Women are a burden and a curse. Though it was outlawed by the Christians, it still continued until recently in Europe. (if you need some evidence, I'll be happy to give it to you)
How much of a nigger can you be? Hitler said a woman's world is her household and the state is men's world.
The word race here is being used in it's original and correct sense. For example, in the Greco-Roman creation myth it states:
Forthwith he made an EVIL THING for men….. he had made the beautiful EVIL….. [when woman was revealed] And wonder took hold of the deathless gods and mortal men when they saw that which was SHEER GUILE, not to be withstood by men.
For from her is the race of women and female kind: of her is the DEADLY RACE and tribe of women who live amongst mortal men to their great trouble, no helpmeets in hateful poverty, but only in wealth.
…..reap the toil of others into their own bellies.Even so Zeus who thunders on high made women to be AN EVIL to mortal men, with a NATURE TO DO EVIL.
As for the man who chooses the lot of marriage and takes a good wife suited to his mind, evil(woman) continually contends with good(man)
The reference is to civilized and barbarian patriarchies, not savage ones. Another FALSE ACCUSATION by another FEMINAZI rat. But yes, even a savage or animal patriarchal social structure is much, much, much better than this unholy society we live in which men are oppressed/abused and a collapse is in sight.
1. No 2. Yes 3. No 4. No 5. No 6. No 7. Yes 8. No 9. No 10. No, but neither should we have to pay taxes to support them 11. Divorce should only be allowed when the woman is unfaithful or can't have kids. In which case, she gets absolutely nothing in divorce and gets kicked out in the cold on her ass. No social programs either.
1. No 2. No 3. No 4. No
Why are (((1)))s continuously bumping this thread? Ah, whatever. Zig Forums is a jew op.
the irony coming from a 1
Why do I get the feeling that you're one of the tradcucks who bitches constantly about MGTOW? Spoiler: married men today are ultra cucked by the shit laws and we can't depend on them to help vote out the feminist bullshit like universal suffrage. Voting should be for net positive taxpaying men, whether single or married.
(((1)))s and (((#)))s by the same jew bumping this thread under different proxies.
Apart from triggering all the roasties here, there isn't much point to this thread. We all instinctively know the answers but will have to wait till the time is right.
mgtow go away
Triggering roasties? Zig Forums this woman hating crap is boring as fuck after a certain point If you all don't recognize this discord tranny (muh artificial wombs) AGAIN that doesn't mean anything to the 'roasties' of Zig Forums
And him not wanting women to choose partners is inherently dysgenic
Fuck of back to whatever hole you crawled out from, faggot.
I'm sorry but I'll have to say you're factually incorrect here. There are still plenty of whiteknights out there which is PRECISELY why the time isn't right.
Don't sit there and wait brother, instead do your best to make the right time come asap.
Have you remembered you to hit your wife for daring to look at you and fuck the goat behind your sand hut (((patriarch))) Or perhaps you are collecting shekels It is international womens day, and this thread appeared today what a (((coincidence)))
And the opposite end of the spectrum, unbridled hypergamy, is currently helping destroy all of western society. How about a middle ground where women aren't allowed to slut around or destroy their families, and men have to reach some bar before they're allowed to reproduce.
Thats basically what we had once we rose above being tribes, and even then we didnt treat women as if they were niggers.
So you're not a White nationalist then. You're just some sort of male "nationalist." Generally nationalists point out that different areas belong to different nations of people to the exclusion of others. Do you believe that there is a male "nation" where women should be excluded from? Also, do you identify more with a male African than a female of whatever race you belong to?
hitler was such a softie
I've got some bad news for you, user. Women aren't going to just fall in line and go back to that system. It's going to take a heavy hand.
They will follow whoever is strongest, they arent hypergamic to the point of being illogical but they do to the point where their biology inclines them to whoever is "stronger"
It's just how it has ALWAYS BEEN! Women are evil and inferior, which is why they choose evil and stupid men for their babies.
Yet this poster says he isn't blaming Jews. As for who is more evil – Usury and slavery of gentiles are just a few crimes. They are also merely crimes sanctioned by an ethnocentric religion. However women are a fiery pit of evil and are inherently evil due to their very NATURE. Heck, even the Jews have been warned of women! When there were and weren't any Jews, women were ALWAYS known to be the worst evil UNTIL FEMINISM
So all the other dozens of days it also appeared on were also women's day? LOL. Nice try though, you supporter of evil
NO COMPROMISES WITH EVIL!!! Once made equal to man, woman becomes his superior. You're either a patriarch or a feminist. There is barely a few inches of middle ground
Nope. The body is infected with this cancer and deserves to disappear. Notice that roasties here have the automatic assumption that they should be involved in 'political' discourse? It's already too far gone.
The only communities that will survive are ones that preserve the patriarchal model and bring up their children that way. Their bloodlines will continue and everything else will perish or become deformed mutants like everything else in modern society.
Nah, women have no agency, sorry
This thread is SHIT dear. It is a goat fuckers wet dream…their goal is dysgenic world hell, so that is what they try to convince White men to think as well. If White men go alone with goat fucker faggot hell, that is what they deserve, is it not?
Bump because you can’t distinguish Western patriarchy from Islam, because you’re too fucking retarded to be here.
women have been 'free' for less then 60 years, and look at how much damage they have managed, are you seriously implying women had political authority during the majority of white history while we conquered the fucking world you dumb whore?
ALSO, REMEMBER TO SAGE…obviously the Discord Trannies paid a lot for a thread that demoralizes and destroys European culture so FAT FUCKING CHANCE you are going to get the mods to take this destructive goat fucker thread down. AGAIN, DON'T FORGET TO SAGE, THERE IS ONLY SO MANY TIMES THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAGGOT KIKES CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE WE ARE ALL BORED OF THE GOAT FUCKERS WET DREAMS
GOAT FUCKER 1
GOAT FUCKER 2
Do you ever joust against all those straw men you set up or are they just for show?
Should women vote? hold political office? lead armies?
Nice rebuttal semite
No. Women lack the skill sets to do these things well.
well we are in total agreement then
Shouldn't even serve as soldiers in armies frankly.
DID YOU TAKE A BREAK FROM FUCKING YOUR FAVORITE GOAT, NIGGER?
White nationalists are almost all hardcore feminists. The movement involves free and equal women. FUCK THAT SHIT. White women and all other women are evil as fuck. Even a male dog or nigger is far better than a woman. WAKE UP!! 1.Land is supposed to be owned almost exclusively by men. 2.Women should be put back in their cages(houses or rooms) and not let out. Yes and male dogs, chinks, indians, arabs and monkeys too. Women are just sick and possibly the very embodiment of evil.
^ THIS IS WHAT MEN HAVE ALWAYS DONE, AND IT'S JUST HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN!!
^ THESE GUYS ARE DOING THE WORK OF GOOD / GOD. BRAVO!!
i'd say your losing the argument but you lack the ability to even put one forth
Roastie-like typing detected. You're either a bitch or a bitch brain.
I'm not the op you stupid bitch, I like arguing with roasties for fun is why I keep posting in it, driving you so insane you had to google goat asses was worth it
Yes, they're intentionally trying to blur the lines between natural European patriarchy and the filthy semitic practice of belittling and maligning women. It's the classic thesis-antithesis-synthesis trick. They created the extreme ideology of feminism for women, and are now trying to create the same for men so that they can peddle some bullshit synthesis of the two and control both sides.
NEXT TIME YOU THINK OF THE RETURN OF THE MUSLIM PATRIARCHY THINK 'GOAT FUCKERS' IN POWER
That's funny because under a different ID you claimed that I was making a false accusation when I pointed out that it's ridiculous and anti-White to want to "chain women to beds" What you desire is not all that different and in fact even worse than what I jokingly brought up.
So you identify more with Africans than White women. If you hate White women so much, why throw them in cages? Why not just exterminate them?
What exactly did white countries do for the last 2,500 years?
Dang, there are a lot of goat asses ITT. This is what happens when we talk about women.
From there to treat them like slaves is a big jump You realize dogs cant stay at home because they shit on the carpet, but you dont hit it everytime it looks at you becaude you (hopefully) arent a nigger