So if you're fed up with mass immigration, why would you attack the immigrants instead of attacking the people that made the mass immigration possible in the first place?
This is beyond stupid.
Of course I'm assuming the Mosque attack was real and not some false flag fakery.
Anyways, fuck this shit, I'm out. This is retarded.
his goal wasnt to solve immigration or anything. his goal was to piss people off and get groups fighting each other
Hudson Gonzalez
Every time a murder like this happens it can be used to discredit political dissidence. We need to adopt the strategies of others. Think of the marches of peaceful Muslims carrying candles after Muslim terrorist attacks.
If you look at Brenton Torrant's manifesto you can see he's a white nationalist. So we need something like a "White nationalists against terrorism" march, with candles. We'll also need people to photograph and film antifa when they attack. A drone would be good. If someone remembers that name the Pro-EU people in Maidan were using for planted agitators, then that would be good to use for the plants and idiots who carry a candle but then agitate for violence. Maybe carry portraits of the victims.
We can't have the only public image of the alt-right be the people in Charlottesville looking angry chanting "Jews will not replace us", and these ugly pepes and groypers. We need to show that we are not terrorists. There are people who seriously believe political dissidence and the possession of forbidden knowledge are dangerous because of people like Anders Breivik.
"#NotAllWhiteNationalists"
"Just imagine the backlash this incident will have on peaceful white nationalists"
"The far left are exploiting this incident to attack white nationalists"
"You can imagine the globalists must be happy this attack happened, because it lets them sow division between nationalists and others, while preaching unity"
Or maybe better than a specifically "white nationalists against terrorism" candle march, would be a more general "alt-right against terrorism" candle march? Or a "nationalists against terrorism" candle march?
How do you think the Ottoman Empire was taken down? No one asked nicely.
Ryder Scott
"his goal wasnt to solve immigration or anything. his goal was to piss people off and get groups fighting each other"
-People aren't going to fight each other on a large scale, modern civilization has made most men around the globe relatively docile. There's too many videogames and other distractions, it won't ever happen.
John Fisher
The goal was acceleration. In a time were meek men are delaying the inevitable i cant say i disagree all that much. He killed 40 shitskins. Imagine half of them having 3+ children. Imagine those 3+ children each having 3+ children. The faggot did a lot more than just attack a bunch of immigrants. He had a message and his actions underline that message.
yeah that just might be the most terrible fucking idea i've ever heard People sympathize with low IQ knuckledragging muzzies People don't sympathize with low IQ knuckledragging white supremacists.
Kevin Lopez
CURRENT NUMBER OF TIMES MODS HAVE TRIED TO SHUT IT DOWN BY MASS-DELETING AND BANNING: 8
Reminder to search "Synagogues/Mosques in my area" to find nearby enemy locations.
David Hall
Fuck off fed.
Carson Evans
What is the point of a terrorist attack? The exact same reason. Create fear among muslims. Show them they are not welcomed. Rally the base against Islamic invaders. Stir shit up. Suicide.
Kevin Hernandez
At face value according to the killer, it was simply to kill Muslims in revenge for Muslim killings in Europe. I thought he mentioned there was a reason they targetted this specific Mosque, maybe it was one of those Mosques that was secretly funding actions against white nations.. but I have seen no evidence and I don't expect to as it would not fit the narrative they try to push and they'd cover it up if so. Maybe just the idea of a Mosque in a city called Christchurch offended him.
Jason Turner
His manifesto says
and physically removing the invaders themselves.”
That would work if enough people were murdering foreigners, but our tradition is not like that. We don't have the supposedly perfect word of God telling us to murder foreigners to be rewarded in the afterlife, we are peaceful and kind and believe in human rights, so I don't believe we're going to have enough murderers to scare away immigrants, just enough to discredit opposition to immigration.
He then says he wants to accelerate the confiscation of firearms from public hands in the US so that there will be civil war. I reckon though that the US government in under no obligation to ban them any faster than it wants, while he's just given them what they were waiting for to restrict gun ownership in New Zealand.
Colton Long
Whats the point of muslim suicide bombing, and muslim terror attacks and child rape gangs, it doesnt make any sense
Ayden Reyes
No, glownigger. You aren't getting attacks you can blame on others, you're going to have to fake every single shooting like you've been doing until you're arrested, tried, and executed for your crimes.
Jaxson Fisher
"He highjacked the white-nationalist ideology, which an ideology of peace"
"He is not a real white nationalist. White nationalists are peaceful, moderate people next door"
"Don't let a teeny tiny minority of violent white nationalists make jou generalise and say all white nationalists are terrorists"
Ayden Richardson
(This post is just because I know I'm on a watchlist) No I'm not saying most Muslims are murderous, I know in reality it's only a small minority who actually take those teachings of Muhammad to heart and act on them.
Blake Jackson
I can't make a new thread rn but i wonder this
I don't really go on Zig Forums ever but ive been on chans since 06.
I've read his manifesto. One thing I don't understand about this killer is that if he spent all of his time here and maybe on 4ch Zig Forums the Donald storefront whatever…
Why did he have really nothing to say about the Jews? Did he fear them?
Cringingly cucky you are. Immigration could stop tomorrow and the situation won't be fixed. We need to deport all the non-whites.
Jason Hill
He did talk about the jews. He said as long as they stay in Israel and don't harm his race they're not his enemy.
Robert Hill
anything besides sitting on your ass crying about false flags is verboten to you faggots
Daniel Miller
It is important to know where nearby enemies are located. The Synagogues and Mosques are filled with imported desert enemies.
Jason Baker
That was one of the demands in his manifesto. So the gun control now looks like caving in to terrorist demands. He plays them like a fiddle, I'm seriously impressed by the subversion and trolling levels he achieved.
Jeremiah Adams
I mean there was that… But that is NOT an opinion a regular of Zig Forums would have imo…like he said worse about the Turks/antifa/marxists. Even said more about them. He cant be ignorant to think Israel/Jews are nothing. He said "why didn't they target X" but even than…makes me wonder.
Eli Diaz
Look they’re all grouped up together Second wave incomin in thirty min
Easton Scott
No one believes your bullshit anymore.
Gabriel Ortiz
spread love please. yall tryana be tough anonymously but in deep down most of yall are pussies shitposting drom mom's basement. so fuck off and spread love
Liam Walker
He also said in his manifesto that he's a navy seal skilled in gorilla warfare and a marxist. You're both retarded.
Aaron Gutierrez
They sympathize with peaceful Muslim men, women and children, not so much with people like Anders Breivik and Adolph Hitler and the angry guys at Charlottesville.
I've thought of a joke. You know how Islam is the religion of peace, and Jihad can be interpreted as an internal struggle? Maybe we should actually try to push for the meme that Mein Kampf is the book of peace, and if someone says that Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia and Poland then we say that "kampf" can be interpreted as an internal struggle. You're just figuratively invading and taking lebensraum.
Caleb Rodriguez
jews are shielded while muds don't have the same status. If people begin actually looking at things (his goal all along), they can see the nose behind the corner. If you were to attack them directly, the wailing and gnashing of teeth would drown out curiosity.
Remember that methods of actually getting people to question things are generally non-violent, the madlad just went a different route.
I am a pacifist and do not condone violence of any kind. Zig Forums is a board of peace.
Henry Perez
Answer my question OP Oh wait this is just a 1 and done
Nathan Ross
The purpose of this event was to galvanize the publics turn to the next phase which is the irreconcilability between the synthesized right and left. This means that the left, at some point in the future, is meant to be the sacrificial synthesis to the thesis of the right, all of which has been defined in the media according to marxism, for both the right and left. From here on out, the jewish and zionist personalities will attempt to conflate and absorb zionism into the conservative identity by stimulating the right against the muslims and south americans who have been relocated to various countries over years through coordinated governmental corruption and private ngos of jews.
The only thing on any politician of any country's platform or mind should be stopping global government, which is jewish messianic era and coming soon.
Evan Taylor
They're an obvious pernicious influence while jews like to hide is my point.
Thomas Davis
Keep trying Adolf. The Jews depend on your retardation for survival.
David Lopez
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Austin Williams
it was essentially trolling, trying to rig the pendulum He wants the left to retaliate and "overplay their hand" So, for the next few months, or weeks, lets see if anyone takes his bait
If they don't though, then the right will have overplayed it's hand Just more culture war shit with people trying to prove they are the REAL victim It's same old story as always but this time he was a poster here
I'm getting sick of these games, where the only way to win is to stop playing
William King
I get what you are saying. You would just think though that we would have mentioned more even subtly. I wonder if the Nelson Mandela thing was a real thing he meant or a shitpost. Fascinating stuff
Xavier King
He wanted to show everyone that it only takes 1 white man to kill 40 Muslims. We can solve this problem ourselves, we just have to do it.
Camden Cox
Hate to break it to you but anything we don't do is used to discredit political dissidence. Does your mind follow the 72 news cycle and forget about Jussie Smollett? Do you forget every mass shooting that happens where literally half the people in our nations are holding their breath and pre-mediating it being a white guy? You're not going to appease our enemies. The last few years was the beginning of the lines being drawn among the masses of people. We are the scapegoat whose targeted for genocide by ruling oligarch jews as the blood decedents of the devil himself. You can appease your enemies and buy another 15 minutes of peace and quiet, or you can quit living on your knees and start acting accordingly.
You were never in nerd or you wouldn't have made a worthless thread about how attacking migrant invaders isn't doing anything.
Dylan Sullivan
This is the time candidates for the United States 2020 election so they need something to talk about. Creating a false flag like this is perfect for them to say,
"Well just look at the mosque attack that happened in march. donald trump and anyone on the right is inciting violence against innocent immigrants. This is why we need more immigration and more gun control"
They use the chans because its anonymous.
Mason Turner
Because they are the exact same people you absolute fucking retard?
Zachary Lee
My guess is it was a "loose thread" that people are meant to pick up on. It's kinda like shitposting irl in that you mention something to get folks thinking. We get shut out when being direct so dropping breadcrumbs is often how we're able to show the truth.
Julian Stewart
Wait are we supposed to first fuck off and then spread our love? Or spread love first and then fuck off? Where shall we fuck off to nigger? I’ll sock puppet and spread love irl while I fuck off. There perfect solutions to make the nigger happy
Blake Howard
You were never "in", Chaim.
Brayden Torres
I wish he just blamed Jussie Smollett and no one else in the manifesto
Jack Morris
I feel you. I think he fears them in some way. Like you said if he attacked them he would be destroyed and his message gone
Ok here is what I know so far about the New Zealand False Flag attack at the Christchurch Mosques.
At court today, Tarrant defiantly signaled loyalty to his handlers for his “job well done”.
He had visited Turkey multiple times, and Pakistan, and North Korea… He had no apparent animosity Towards Muslims.
On the way into the courtroom, an attacker (LH Oswald) tried to stab and kill Tarrant. The guy was also arrested. Definitely lots of evidence already that this was a diversionary False Flag—-
The FF was aimed at the US 2nd amendment and discrediting/stopping #Qanon and the 8ch artists. I am certain that is why Skippy was in NZ.
He is being handled by DS operatives- likely bought out during John Podesta’s recent visit to NZ where he proclaimed NZ poised for this…
All I am saying is a simple search or even viewing an offline paper map of your area will give you an idea where the desert rats are located. The synagogues and mosques are filled with desert religion worshipers on their holy days.
Yeah im newish to politicial stuff but I find this fascinating. I dont agree with everything but even the people you disagree with can make some good points. Also fascinating mind tbh. He seemed kind of dumb though, in the beginning he said he didn't go to college and wasn't good in high school. Maybe he had some functioning issues. He was very very good at shooting though so who knows lol.
"appease your enemies"? Maybe I don't get what you're saying. I'm talking about taking control of the public perception of political dissidence and forbidden wisdom, taking control of the image away from the media and politicians. We don't want nationalism to be seem as just a thing for angry people who want to commit murders.
Why is it that we have people who think nationalism is dangerous because some nationalists are bad, while Islam's good even though some Muslims are bad, and it's the biggest source of terrorism in the world? Because it's #NotAllMuslims + candle vigil, and it's Anders Breivik + Charlottesville, that sort of thing, I think.
Jackson Parker
You need a spark to start a fire. Would be funny if a dense group of SJWs doing some stupid shit were targeted next.
Aiden Mitchell
If you attack the immigrants, there will be no more mass immigration.
Holy shit, the actual kike is falling in his own logic.
Dylan Lewis
This. And also the MSM would be more hesitant in mentioning it on the news as they wouldnt want a bunch of normies reading a 74 page redpill about the kikes. Instead, part of me thinks it was a good way to give it more coverage, also mentioning Fortnite and pewds is giving it alot more staying power. On the other hand, if he was one of us, knowing this will be his last message to earth, surely he would name the juden alot better than just saying that they are fine as long as they stay in israel. Something doesn't add up but it never does
Nathan Bennett
Oh boy, opticcucks is on again.
Yes, nationalism is jew friendly and muslim friendly, ain't that right, fellow goyim.
Jose Baker
>(((Anyways, fuck this shit, I'm out.))) >(((This is retarded.))) SHUT IT DOWN THE JEW FEARS THE ACCELERATION
Luis Flores
says the
Adrian Wood
It was meant to make Muslims start bombing white people more so that even more white people would destroy themselves lashing back. That or Tarrant was a suicidal anti-gun activist pushed over the edge by my shilling for the pro-diversity implications of women and minorities owning guns.
Nah, surely not that. I’ll go with the first answer here - it was meant to make muslims explode so that more white people would explode.
Christian Lee
Lets be honest here guys, Brenton didn't even pass school, and didn't attend university, yet his trying to spread ideologies that are completely out of his grasp? It is unfortunate when dumb people think they are smart. There is no hope for reason with idiots like this. His lines of thinking was probably - It's not that I'm not smart enough to understand algebra, its the system teaching the algebra trying to make me think im stupid.
The people who own the media dictate what your image is. There's no evidence that if you do X they'll stop calling you racist etc. and there's ample evidence to the contrary.
Start a media company if you care what you look like. These Jews aren't going to help you and your image out.
Jason Adams
Here's where Zig Forums shows how much glowkike penis they took up the ass in one happening:
According to Brenton Tarrant's plan:
Because there was nothing whatsoever mentioned about dealing with Jews, this means
Benjamin Garcia
>(((Lets be honest here guys))) RIGHT OUT OF THE JEW HEADLINE GENERATOR atleast try jews
Justin Morris
Most people browsing this board were talking about doing something like this 24/7. Maybe this time they will learn something, or not.
Austin Brown
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Mason Taylor
Bye retard No one gives a fuck
Robert Cooper
>(((Or maybe better than a specifically "white nationalists against terrorism" candle march, would be a more general "alt-right against terrorism" candle march? Or a "nationalists against terrorism" candle march?))) this is what jewish subversion looks like
Chase Butler
Yeah man, we are past the civil war, let's just vote our problems out of jews hand now.
inb4 4D chess
Bentley Powell
No you go to school to learn tools that are able to add value to the society's progress revelant to your time. He was unable to do so, and thus his confusion and ignorance he formed a world view of me vs some enemy.
Angel Thompson
Yeah again, you need to go to school to be smart.
Actual kike shilling, disgusting.
Gabriel Russell
When did I say this, you sub IQ faggot?
Gavin Carter
Right here, kike.
Now end yourself.
Joshua Diaz
You certainly don't go to school to learn how to shoot innocent people to solve a imaginary problem.
Ethan Richardson
Oh wow, actual mudshit detected.
Maybe I should visit the mosque.
Benjamin Nelson
Your not even saying anything of substance, mudshit, ok good one bro.
Jason Lee
Brenton was a retard who couldn’t think for himself, nothing but a primate with an inferior developed cortex mostly controlled by primal instincts. When people cannot get in touch with their emotions and lack critical thinking skills do what this garbage did. I though we as a species we have overcomed the genocidal instinct but it seems that we haven’t some of us are still nothing more than slightly evolved neanthertals
James Brooks
Yep, kill mudshit.
Simple words for simple times.
Evan Moore
i miss moderation on Zig Forums do we really need 10 threads about this?
Jackson Turner
I agree yet disagree. Some of the smartest people on earth are dumb as fuck lol. Like they are specialized to only be able to do certain things. He obviously wasn't retarded because his manifesto was written well enough. Not a masterpiece but it doesn't have to be. The messages were clear and succint. I don't know his life but imo he had some functioning problems.
Yeah I have no clue. I am not Zig Forums but I know what it's about. I can't imagine him not just making at least one paragraph about them. I just don't get it (.__. )
Doubt that he is dumb, probably more intellectually apathetic. Look at the manifesto, regardless of the effect it ultimately has it'll be a success.
There are essentially a few choices for how the aftermath goes down:
Divide people? Already done, this in no way changes how the people in power look at us anyway. The more repressive they get, the more WN types pop up. They show their hand.
Unity? Shows conservatives that their own party hates them. Necessarily has to exclude people like him, greater social distance creates further radicalization which then causes another Tarrant resetting the first question of how to deal with people like him.
Provokes a response? A new Tarrant shows up to respond.
Also, look at the manifesto. Milquetoast conservatives are denounced and he cites China as an inspiration. Every direction he goes toward directs the left in a circle. He knows the right will be blamed anyway.
I'm sure he could've solved all that. Good job, user. Brilliant stuff.
Nathan Carter
It's true that one should kill traitors before enemies but Breivik was Chapter 1. Brenton is Chapter 2.
Isaiah Green
well written please…if you cannot reason from first principle fundamentals you are pretty dumb. I don’t like religion Islam in particular but killing some innocent Muslims as revenge is a false equivalence…he was a dumbshit who couldn’t think for himself no better than those that believe in the quran
Colton Morris
I mean he's doing something right if I'm reading it. I rarely read these things. Fascinating killer tbh. He liked Dylan roof though which makes me think he's kind of dumb.
Dylan Morris
Is the size of a field determined by its width or its length? Of course the facts matter when it comes to what the media can report. The internet's not completely censored yet, which will limit how much they can get away with lying.
It because I don't know exactly what would be best so I was being vague.
Chase Wright
he is saying that people who hate you will hate you regardless of your stance on terrorism, so there is no point trying to say "we are against terrorism" because it wont affect anything. People will just see through it immediately as an attempt to garner sympathy, which, seeing as they dislike the ideology anyway, will just seem both funny and slimy at the same time.
Dylan Rodriguez
The real question: What part of him was more full of pride? The son of the west who slaughtered the Semite invaders, or the Kiwi shitposter who cast the state of this board into an illegible garbage fire by his actions?