There seems to be a big wedge (potentially a D&C vector) between anons who believe accelerationism is good/bad for us. This is an incorrect line of thinking, since our opinion is moot - if all it takes is one madman to shoot up a mosque and then the entirely of NZ gets a gun grab, then really our opinion on the affair is irrelevant.
The real discussion we must have, is what should we do with the situation. Memetics matter, and the opinion of the public can be shifted ever so slightly by our own. Again, the actions of any individual are not only out of our control, but could easily be a false flag (regardless of if it was or not now, because the end result is the same).
There is way too much discussion about what Zig Forums thinks of the situation, if he was /ourguy/ or not, all of this is entirely irrelevant. "What Zig Forums thinks" is an open shill vector, and unproductive at best. You form your own opinion. What matters as a "group", if you consider Zig Forums to be one, is where do we go from here. Informed guesses as to what will happen next, evaluations of the impact the event had, digging and presentation of proofs by any concerned anons, and in general, focusing on the facts of the matter, not this gay discussion of "he's a hero!" vs "he's a retard!" and so forth. What is done is done, and he sure won't be doing anything else for "a few" years, so the meta-politics and the factual reality matter way more and should be the focus.
Most everyone on this board should already know that the collapse is inevitable. Hell, a lot of normies even know that. In light of demographic trends, the course of action is obvious. Shill for Yang and use the $1000/month as a boogaloo prep fund.
John Flores
Accelerationism = bad. >Drops her magazines because she's a ditz Not sure how I feel about Rule 63, but that's cute.
Elijah Walker
What Brenton was accelerationist, yes, but it wasn't what accelerationism is ALL about. Accelerationism is doing what Trump won't: bringing into focus the invasive threats of multiculturalism. It's obviating what Jews stand for, and what they do. It's redpilling the masses, and bringing the deeper truths to the fore.
For Brenton, though, he took the easy route: shooting up a mosque. It did make a point though, didn't it?
Elijah Thompson
What is the 'hard route' IYO?
Ryder Kelly
It made a point and that point was further demonizing the struggle against white genocide and getting guns b&.
Accelerationism is not about domestic terrorism but mass public awakening. Shills say that Brenton Tarrant will spark a great white uprising but did that happen with Dylan Roof? No, neither will it happen due to Brenton. Instead, stricter gun control laws will be enforced, just like they were thanks to Dylan Roof. These "people" claiming Accelerationism is about violence are Jews and Bolsheviks who do not have white people's best interests in mind. Am I saying to not fight back? Not at all. I am saying to be intelligent and consider the consequences of your actions.
Henry Nelson
My sides. Right or wrong, NYT admits we’re winning and they can’t stop our use of their social media platforms against them.
patience and preparation Normies are waking up, however slowly. When they do wake up, many of them will think the exact opposite of what they think now. Try to maintain a semblance of common-sense, user. People who are new to the redpill often go too far. for all I know, that may have been what happened with Brenton.
Noah Gray
And NO ONE thinks this has to do with @facebook being fakebook everything
Dylan Robinson
ONE THREAD PER TOPIC
Grayson Hughes
You don't understand terrorism. Crackdown is the whole point. More whites will radicalize when the shitskins take revenge for this. It's a domino effect.
Joshua Bell
>it wasn't real accelerationism By definition, accelerationism brings chaos into the equation, and some anons may feel this is better than controlled slow-boiling of the frog. Of course no one wants things to become worse for the sake of becoming worse. But accelerationism is like adding contrast to an image; the image won't fundamentally change, but the details will be harder to miss.
At the present moment, there is strong chaos and distraction. Events which happen at this moment get smaller coverage and mindshare. This is something to keep in mind - if there was a second Brenton Tarrant, then a third, and so forth - at what point does it just become one blurry mess in the eyes of the public?
For reference, in the Cologne new years eve, a thousand german women were raped by muslims. If hundered had been raped, would our reactions be different? If a thousand Brenton Tarrants happened consecutively, would the news cycle manage to be a thousand times more emotional?
Is this terrorism? I don't think so, but it is a hope and a prayer for terrorism.
Crackdown on terrorism is the whole point of what? Tyranny? Most fundamentally, government exists to facilitate trust in society. Terrorism is thus the antithesis of government, AKA: anarchy.
Brody Martin
We need to take this opportunity to shift the Overton window. If we start praising the attack everywhere online then people will be forced to compromise with us in their minds and things will start shifting more in our direction.
Christian Gonzalez
Look at all the terror attacks in the UK. Guns banned. Need a license for spoons. Where's the great white revolt?
Gabriel Ramirez
Well now. At least we know how they feel about moooooslums.
Kayden Edwards
Did you know, that if you took a surface and were able to disrupt the entanglement of that surface and the surrounding environment. It would respond as if it were weightless?
Ryan Hughes
That picture is gay. To the ovens with you.
Jacob Morris
Now this is different and we do care, you fuck with our children; and our way of life : loving, living…you've declared battle.
Colton Cooper
YES. THAT'S THE POINT. America died in 1865 and this bloated reanimated corpse of it is unsalvageable. Have you learned nothing from Dr. Pierce?
Asher Robinson
I do acknowledge that violence is a form of accelerationism. It's just not the form I advocate. I disagree with that. Chaos may result from accelerationism, but I think our goal here is to stop the invitation to immigration, which brings with it chaos.
The big picture is what we are working to bring into focus.
At what point does the public start to question the wisdom of (((overwhelming immigration)))?
That's a really good question, user.
Justin Watson
You may be right, user, but I'm not yet ready to give up on what we had.
Jace Carter
Read again. A thousand were raped, would we care ten times less if a hundered were raped? Public opinion isn't linear, and you need to keep this mind with accelerationism. Ten Brenton Tarrants would register as one in the eyes of the public.
Aaron Young
No, they have been eroding and banning gun rights for a long time. All (((you))) are doing is trying to justify it by the actions of one man. The same thing the rest decided to do this time around. Sometimes it is just because they are scary. The best question is, what if he didn't shoot up a mosque and they decided to ban the guns? What would the reaction have been? Because, ideally, that should still be the reaction. The thing about the non-stop "take all the guns" narrative is it can't get any non-stoppier. So, like the politicians that do it, try to justify it by the actions of one to trick people in to thinking it is now deserved. You know damn good and well this has nothing to do with him because it was happening before him and would happen regardless of him. You simply latched on to an inevitable scapegoat in hopes people will blame and hate their own even more. It reeks of kikery.
Ryder Gomez
Report on evidence of felonies violating Civil Rights, and bribery by foreign agents, implicating United States Special Counsel Robert S Mueller III as a criminally-tainted agent of foreign & racketeering interests themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DOJ-IG-memo-Mueller-bribery-extortion.pdf New ethical dawn since 20 January 2017. Mueller-tied crimes a current threat to the USA. As you understand, this is not just a case of 'historical' felonies of corruption tainting two corrupt DOJ high officials, former Special Counsel Patrick J Fitzgerald and his enabler, 2001-13 FBI Director Robert Mueller, who joined in selling an egregious 'comfort letter' to a gang of British-funded child rape and extortion criminals, mid-way in carrying out 'pay us or we kill you' terrorist acts on US territory, the boasted-about bribery of two federal judges, and a long series of related racketeering offences, including bags of bribery cash to media, buying the 'fake news'.
You claim that act of imbecilic murder as your own?!
Juan Morris
Yes, you semitic subhuman trash.
Jordan Russell
who are you to judge me!
Tyler Sullivan
Wtf democracy is fascism in disguise!
Gabriel Hughes
TRASH NEED EXTERMINATION.
Robert Rogers
all this does is create a black market
meth heroin and cocaine have been illegal in the united states forever but magically it's still everywhere.
Andrew Kelly
Thank the coders then for this site or we'd all be obliterated due to this guy: 12948420
Ethan Wilson
Brenton said NZ would lose gun rights just as they are. He said they'd go after guns in the US and we'll see whether you all will actually do something about it like you've been bragging for years. My prediction is that you just let it happen.
Jacob Brooks
Well get ready, because the collapse is going to happen whether you try to prevent it or not.
What do you think was going to happen in the future though? Do you believe there is some timeline where the kike controlled governments never attempt to disarm white men?
Jackson Hughes
sorry, that guy
Levi Phillips
Stop doing what jews want you to do.
Hudson Moore
They can't just knocking on the door one day. They need "justification" and mass shootings give them that.
Christopher Wood
he correctly stated that if gun rights can be lost this easily, via a single shooting, then they never had them to begin with, they would have been removed anyway, albiet slowly via slow boil instead of all at once, but in the end it's the same.
A mass gun confiscation done in the United States tomorrow would cause a civil war; spread over the course of another 50 years it will not.
Ethan Ward
why do you think that despite the many mass shootings in America they have not done this but instead slowly, over time, pushed for gun reform? Slippery-slope strategy will not be deviated from in America. Mass shootings only serve to demonize the struggle against white genocide.
Anthony Gonzalez
See >>>12945573 We create a dialectic and force them to give us our own ethnostate via exile.
Anthony Allen
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Charles Flores
Read his statement again. He's saying an actual confiscation would result in civil war. Not a ban of accessories etc. Which if you think of the logistics behind immediate confiscation he's probably correct.
Gabriel Murphy
Actors.
Jaxson Lopez
So this one guy got guns banned. Is that what you really think? That NZ will get a guns ban because of one guy?
What's next, one user makes one post that gets Zig Forums shut down? Will you then go back to reddit and cry about how it was all that one user's fault?
If they "need" "justification", what's to prevent them from manufacturing said justification any day of the week?
And if they false-flag / complete-hoax a mass shooting? All the anti-acceleration screams in the world could NOT stop that.
Jonathan Powell
Actresses
Thomas Gonzalez
this is wrong, it's on the brink already, but this is why ACCELERATION is needed. The lemmings need to be woken up with a rapid pace or it's game over. non-whites are already against white people, their opinion is irrelevant.
Gabriel Bennett
Exactilactily
Brody Nelson
this
Lincoln Sanders
The New Vegas mass shooting was already a complete hoax to push for more security. Metal detectors are being installed all over New Vegas and if user is correct soon more public institutions.
Alexander Carter
A civil war.. with no guns. Brilliant plan!
Luis Adams
What you described doesn't sound like accelerationism to me at all. It sounds like sitting around waiting for the public to get redpilled on their own, or maybe engaging in mild mass propaganda efforts ala IOTBW which is a Sisyphean effort. Most people are too comfortable or too confined in their thought corrals to realize any of this stuff in time for it to make any difference.
Aaron Collins
Now would be a really good time to remind peeps to NOT attend mass public events. you cannot be killed if you are not there; they cannot kill you if you are not there.
Xavier Miller
The shooting doesn’t make sense it was an obvious false flag. So much things like the lack of calling out the Jew in his manifesto, the shooter being in the Middle East for 6 months, the labeling as a 8channer Nazi white supremacists.
First off any 8channer that’s a fan of national socialism to the point of putting Nazi symbolism on his weapons and gear should obviously know that the primary concern is the Jew, not muslims and would of at least called out their role in shitskin immigration to western countries.
Anyways what we need to do is constantly put the Jew in the spotlight. We need the media to constantly have to screech about “muh anti-semitism” every single day.
Ilhan Omar put them in the spot light. Ever since she called out dual citizenship Jews in the goverment the media was non stop “muh anti-semitism”. They needed the shooting to get the spotlight away from them.
If we can keep them forced on “muh anti-semitism” reporting I believe eventually people will question why so much anti-semitism is happening and eventually look into the Jew question and become redpilled.
Anything that gets the media to report on “muh anti-semitsm” thus needs to be done. Throwing a pie in a ugly Jews face, Posting memes on telephone poles at university campus grounds, saying something anti-semitic in front of a big group of people on stage at some big event, and even shooting up a synagogue. Literally anything you can think of that’ll force media to report on muh anti-semitism. Anything that puts them in the spot light.
Isaiah Martin
Just stop trying to interpret something you are obviously not equipped to deal with. It was a KILL order. Plain and simple
Luke Lewis
That's not even what he said. An ATTEMPT at full confiscation would kick off civil war. Keep being disingenuous and you're getting filtered, maybe banned too
Robert Thomas
The UK respectfully disagrees.
Jose Harris
BULLSHIT as long as subhumans walk this Earth you and your family are not safe youtu.be/TlED9g7O_aU?t=35
Jeremiah Brooks
Read his work. Read between the lines. You fucking duck
Henry Kelly
I agree. These things are rarely exactly as they initially seem. Something doesn't sit well about this at all. On the surface he certainly seems to be /ourguy/, but if I had to guess I'd say Jews enabled Brenton to do what he did to accelerate a war between The West and Islam.
Samuel Lee
preferably a civil war would occur before mass gun confiscations occur but it's still possible. There's 350 million people in the united states, probably 1/3 of that fighting age male.
that's 100 million people capable of fighting during a civil war. during a civil war the police will immediately disband and the military will take over, and there are less than 2 million military.
a civil war fought without weapons ( initially ) would just mean vastly higher casualties on the side of those without the weapons, but the weapons would be acquired quickly.
look at the complete inability of the military to hold onto and meaningfully control iraq and afganistan despite having all the weapons in the world and killing them 100 to 1. They are unwilling to mass genocide the muds and that's what would literally be required to control that population. Similarly during an american civil war the authorities would be unwilling to mass genocide americans, kill a lot of them yes, but going door to door and killing every male in the area no, and that's what would be required to win.
Matthew Cox
No one in the US will do fucking shit. The agencies will fucking assrape any insurgent like it has done before.
Sebastian Anderson
The queen can suck my nuts. You're pretty dumb and your rhetoric is weak.
Ryder Phillips
Unless of course, there's people of our kind in those agencies, but wait, I suppose the acclerationists want us to forget that. Go ahead, rise up and be crushed. I'll gladly watch.
Aaron Thompson
A lot has to go into preparation. You dont just magically stir people to war one day. Without public support you've already lost. Without giving those 100 million people something to fight for that's more important than their viddya and tendies you aren't even getting started.
Brayden Morales
UK has cooking knives regulated for fuck's sake. Where's the civil war?
Nathaniel Ramirez
The UK does not have the same anti-tyranny culture as America. There are already "second amendment sanctuaries" throughout the USA where local law enforcement is refusing to carry out and further infringement of gun rights. Mass gun confiscation will not go over smoothly here. If any one act is likely to cause a civil war here, that would be it.
Luis Hall
this is the point of accelerationism. the people will still remember what freedom was. if slow boil is allowed to continue the people will be bred to have no freedom. nobody will have any idea what it was like to be free.
Jason Garcia
But that's because anyone with balls was lost to either America or Australia.
Cameron Johnson
This is what we do, and we up the ante until they've been pushed into the sea or we're dead. Everybody needs to figure out their roles for themselves. We're still outcasts, and there is no movement. We don't need one as OP said, only to accelerate their's. Either gun owners strap up, or they puss out.
Camden Edwards
Agreed, but this goal is achieved by the ballot box, not the gun range. In America, supporting Democrats who will enact ant-white policies achieves this goal.
the ballot box has done nothing but erode freedoms since it was instituted, and we don't have time even if it did work due to demographic replacement.
Nathaniel Hall
How many Gay Bris have you crashed, dad?
Cameron Brooks
Excellent analysis
we have no control of this situation. but also neither party involved has control over situation. it is chaos.
we agree on this
we go out with guns blazing. figuratively speaking of course, this is a board of peace. we strive from chaos and we should use this to maximum extent for our own goals. we are best suited to use this situation. we use it.
Or facilitate their extermination. IDK why this is difficult for people 90% of the crime in the USA would cease overnight if we got rid of the subhuman trash infestation.
Evan Scott
this thread proves you wrong, user
Jackson Lee
More like how many gays tried stealing my love.
Anthony King
GoPro stock is up 2% today. Everybody watch GoPro this week. Or better yet for the ultimate IRL shitposting buy stock in GoPro to pump of the price.
i'm not saying voting doesn't work, in an ideal situation it would, at a local level and set up correctly, but we have millions flooding over the border and breeding like rats, people who hate the united states and white people in general, and all their children will be voters; they will vote to remove all rights from whites and themselves in the process; in exchange for welfare.
there is no time for the ballot box, once a few more states go blue, texas, etc, you'll never get anything close to a right wing again. this is inevitable and will happen within the next decade or two. the remaining right wing will have to go far more moderate; and what you'll get 20 years from now is a right wing that's actually the left wing, and a left wing that's ultra left wing. the people will not complain about this because it was done slowly, which again is why accelerationism is needed. The only answer is to swing the country ultra-left practically overnight, and cause such recoil from those with right wing beliefs that it sparks a civil war.
Luke Ward
WWG1WGA is not a declaration or WAR! Wtf put that out there! There are secrets, and then are SECRETS and those SECRETS are being kept by the highest echelons of corruption. It needs to stop.
Ian Jenkins
kys
Jacob Davis
False. Eugene Terreblanche was right, we vote with rifles now. Bullets not ballots is all that's left. Remember: they want to kill us.
