ITT we discuss the most peaceful, normie-friendly strategies that could possibly work to fix our demographic problems. I mean both the policies themselves and the communication strategy.
In any case, that wouldn't happen peacefully, so it doesn't belong ITT.
Turning the nation into a nuclear wasteland where nobody wants to live except true patriots would technically "work" too. Not for this thread.
I'll start:
We should keep it simple and work with what we have. The average white person:
So the normie-friendly explanation of the demographic problem may go like this (taking America as an example):
"Yes, whites, blacks, Asians, hispanics, we are all Americans, and there are loyal and disloyal, good and bad, smart and dumb people in every race. But because of irresponsible policies, we, as a people, have right now a demographic imbalance problem, which down the road can wreck the nation and ruin it for our posterity. If we simply had an overpopulation problem, you would agree that we need to take reasonable and proportional measures to avoid future famines, wouldn't you? This is a very similar situation, we need to fix this demographic imbalance together, for the sake of our American children and grandchildren, regardless of their race."
And that is the problem. The average White person views a corrupt, genocidal mafia as a legitimate authority.
Nathan Butler
Obviously you know where you are. IRL doesn’t actually have a demographic problem.
Also, normal interpersonal loyalty is good, but loyalist ethics are underdeveloped. Prizing loyalty over other ethical foundations is immoral. That’s why we shouldn’t include it in manichaean evaluations.
Colton Davis
OP is a massive multiracial homosexual Also there can be no world peace. When all non-whites are gone , then we can solve our various grievances between ourselves. Period
Brayden Martin
Yes, it's a big problem. What I'm saying is, let's take that as a given and see what we can do. In this thread.
John Bennett
Creating peace is literally impossible so long as this warmongering Zionist regime still holds power. The ruling government is illegitimate. They are criminals and are responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths and dozens of wars, many of which are raging as you write. Any serious discussion about peace involves removing these genocidal monsters from power.
Jason Green
I feel like these things can be achieved even through (((democratic))) ways.
Isaac Clark
Good. Yes, that sounds reasonable. But we need to actually reduce birthrates and/or encourage emigration. And we need to sell the idea to normal people.
Henry Reed
Gather around, anons, this is now a social-Darwinism thread.
"THOSE WHO WANT TO LIVE, LET THEM FIGHT, AND THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT IN THIS WORLD OF ETERNAL STRUGGLE DO NOT DESERVE TO LIVE"
"HISTORY ITSELF REPRESENTS THE PROGRESSION OF A PEOPLE'S STRUGGLE FOR SURVIVAL"
TL;DR Read Mein Kampf, world-peace is a pipe-dream and Hitler shits on pacifists as degenerates and Jews constantly. There are wars to advance the well-being of a people and then there are Jewish wars for their interests. Pacifism never
guilt trip non-whites into helping their own people in their own lands make them feel like shit whenever they see whites helping their people, instead of their own helping their own
I did. It's a nice read. I could explain where I agree and where I disagree, but I don't want to make it all about Hitler. Let's look at the future.
A preference for peace is not the same as being a pacifist. Few people like war for its own sake. Also, as you know, Germany lost.
Joshua Collins
Except you can't because you aren't a multi-billion dollar, international media corporation. You've never even been to black twitter. Go there and try talking to them before you post that idea again.
Justin Parker
i think everyone wants to live in their own country if it just was peace and freedom there. maybe the solution to your race mixing problem is world peace?
Angel Thompson
Cloning, longevity, genetic repositories, enclaves, that kind of thing. You can not compete naturally. And civilization would have it that you can not compete artificially either, as in the distant past.
All you can do is endure their presence, because you will never be rid of them. People fall for the fallacy that the more edgy an idea is, the more realistic it is. Those same people have made this place their playground, so you wont get many real answers.
Their dreams of a homogenous life are so sweet, they are pained to be reminded of it's impossibility. It's really not much different from how progressives think in a way.
Joshua Myers
Peace would be nice but it is a utopian dream unless you know steps to actually achieve peace. Peace will never come to this Earth so long as the Jews monopolize political and economic power in our countries and as long as multiculturalism is in vogue. A far-fetched way towards a lasting peace, at least in Western countries, would be for fascism to be victorious in America and the country cleansed and depopulated. Either deport every non-white to Mexico or give them land somewhere in North America. If America fell to fascism the rest of the world would be shaken to the core.
Lincoln Butler
Can you throw yourself in a gas chamber?
Logan Martin
Well hell, why don't we have a thread about infinite energy, anti-gravity, and war drives while we're at it. Your problem is that you're just like the "average white person" who has no plans or solutions to accomplish any of that bullshit fantasy. And you clearly have leftist tendencies as evidenced by your pie-in-the-sky delusions.
I wish I could push a button and wipe every faggot like you off the face of the Earth.
Eli Brooks
You have to gamify internet for productivity and actualization . Everyone knows corruption runs rampant under mafia rule, they don't understand mechanisms. People to demonstrate i.e. Red pill normies with a thorough, logical internet curriculum. Give them XP for reading shut like plato or me in major and being literate in history and both sides of an argument. Make a web browser where users can log their time, whether toward education or some productive skill. Use 20 minute blocks. Standardize the education. Map the land and populations and resources of the world. Propose to build in-ground greenhouses in every home. Demonstrate how a mass consensus perceptual reality has been constructed with mass media newspaper tv radio cult of personality. Build new consensus reality intelligenstia to leverage against war mongering incumbents for global peace prosperity and abundance in a transitional post labor world. Niggers.
Jackson Rivera
Technology is developing to the point where a few men can kill billions of adversaries. As such, one must either possess the most advanced weaponry in the coming decades, or leverage the masses against the incumbents before they can reliably deliver the final blow.
Ill check those digits. But add to that that you can only delay the inevitable with peace. Solutions require violence.
Mosley and Tarrant are naive thinking we can live side by side. I dont hold that same delusion. Peace can only delay. Worldpeace can only be achieved by eradicating everyone else. The earth cant be reasonably managed without unity. I dont condone violence ofcourse. I would never do that. Im a nice guy.
Peace is not a necessarily a "good" thing, and so desirable, and thus assumed to be hard to obtain. In nature even peace has it's winners. In darkness the blind have an advantage over those who waste energy on eyes.
Peace today is ubiquitous and it is called civilization. Suffering is not part of the equation. Not even war phases it.
Isaiah Roberts
That's also worth exploring. I like science and tech proposals.
I was focusing more in political strategy, narrative, etc. For instance, should we go for a hands-off approach regarding, say, Africa, or does it pay to do some white man's burden so that it becomes less of a shithole and we can more easily deport them or stop them from coming, or even convince them to migrate, with an economic incentive? I think we might have to support some "strong man" over there from time to time.
I'm OK with them existing, as long as we are not forced to live among them and we keep the upper hand.
Yeah, I left a while ago because it became boring, not being able to have a normal, nuanced conversation.
Colton Evans
Fight against certain provisions of the civil rights act in court, allow for greater free association so that different ethnic groups can form their own organizations and do business. Form companies that are explicitly founded on ethnic self-interest and act more as a tribal family and have an altered power structure so that they're not parasitic soul-sucking wastelands. Organize ethnic groups along company lines rather than nation-states. If the corporate model is the organizational structure of the 21st century than the ethno-corp is a more viable and far more powerful institution than some impossible dream of an isolated and easily contained and destroyed ethnostate.
Sebastian Nelson
Go try to influence black twitter then. We can barely get conservatives to admit that maybe this whole multicultural monstrosity could be a bad thing. Honestly ask yourself; what do you even know about black social media?
Jayden Lewis
The problem I see with that is that corporations are still subject to the law, and the laws are incresingly being made and enforced by people who hate us.
Kevin Scott
The corporations are largely owned by people who hate us too. In that vein, I don't see deregulation as a one-size-fits-all solution for "world peace."
Gabriel Reed
Sure, my point is that we do need to control a sovereign territory where we are not subject to laws made by people who hate us.
Thomas Fisher
It's not our job to make sure that the foreigners' home country is in any particular state if we are already talking about deporting them.
Already happens to a large extent becuz nature. I feel like acceleration and making oneself ungovernable is relevant somehow here…
Finally, I'm not sure there IS a real single answer to these issues. Just theories supported by their respective groups. It's important to have these conversations though
Jeremiah Foster
Yes, peace, this can be discussed, obviously with me.
I think the best way to fix our demographic problem peacefully is to help stabilise the Middle East. Let all, Jews, Muslims, and Christians live there in harmony. Just as they did is Al Andalus.
Christian Young
no you can fuck off back to Zig Forums
Owen Cox
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Feel free to elaborate.
Gee thanks, user. That was nice.
Mason Long
That’s why accelerationism seems so appealing to me. When the government is completely kiked many whites will retaliate.
Oliver Jackson
I'm not saying it's our job, I just think it would make everything easier. Mass deportations to a hellhole is seen as an extreme measure, very hard to sell to the electorate. If it's just to less developed nation where people can still have a normal life, that's much less of a deal, politically. It may even be possible to provide economic incentives for 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants to go back to their ancestral homelands, without forcing them, so without breaking the legal order.
I just don't glowies to raid my house for stuff I said last night. I AM A PRO PEACE ADVOCATE! I love the law and coloured people with different religions.
Owen Moore
Political solutions are constrained by civilization. This is beyond what people can do by organizing. It is a creative challenge. A fundamental conflict exists between civilization and nature. It is like playing chess, already in check with no escape but for illegal moves. Slowly you are hemmed in. The only way to get out of this pattern is to change the rules of the game so that you may now make a move in your favor.
That can not be done with the pieces on the board, you have to cheat nature.
Luke Rivera
That's why I've also somewhat toyed with the idea that the business doesn't have to be organized along perfectly legal lines.
Territory is no longer a guarantee of sovereignty. We can complain about globalization all we want but it is very much the reality of modern politics, and just because you govern a specific area doesn't mean you can do anything you want. You can no longer separate yourself as was previously possible. Breaking off from the global system, securing sovereignty in a certain place and fighting the entire world isn't an option we've tried that
Mason Baker
OP is a liberal weakling who feels a vague attraction to white-nationalism but lacks to guts to get the blood on his hands to achieve it. Hitler would call you a little Jewboy
Kayden Wood
Hitler would call me a bourgeois nationalist.
Thomas Clark
wait a second but im always unironic when it comes to world peace
Joseph Nguyen
Violence is not a solution at all.
Jonathan Ortiz
It can be. I don't think it is in our particular instance, at least not at this point. But let's not be naive and buy into the post-war hippie narrative we've been fed all our lives. Still, probably not the most effective strategy right now.
You will soon come to accept that it is the only solution, and the always has been.
Welcome to planet earth, and the Human Race.
Thomas Hernandez
Something does not become more realistic because it is unpleasant.
Jayden Bell
Best way is let Brenton loose in all the no-go zones of the world. World peace within hours, people.
Bentley Ross
I don't care one way or the other at this point. Strategic thinking and planning is all that matters, and the courage to act on those plans. Violence as a broad catch-all solution is pushed on here by complete troglodites, but I can't predict the future, only plan based on changing situations.
