How do we make Marriage into something that means something again?

Marriage is dysgenic. Women need to be able to chose partners and eugenically select what is best for the European race.

Honestly no I don’t want ‘free speech’ here. These fucking libtard fucks have the entire web for their fuckery. We need less ‘free speech’ on Zig Forums right now.

No. Kill yourself.

Reminder that only 14% of girls 16-26 are virgins of a healthy weight. This number does not consider smoking, drug use, political ideology, poor family relationship, or any other consideration, such as mental health. Virgins of a healthy weight. There are barely over 1,000,000 of them in the US.

Marak is what societies are built on. Without marak, you are reduced to a single State which every woman is dependent upon. That would be dysgenic. And unsustainable.

Marak is inevitable.

A union of a man (has functional testicles and XY chromosomes) and a woman (functional ovaries and XX chromosomes) created in order to secure a healthy and safe environment for their offspring.

I suggest 'Trothed'
Abandon 'Marriage' to the degenerates

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Literally this. It's the only way to prevent women from leaving without a good reason.
Want to divorce? Fine, but you get nothing.
Want to get knocked up out of wedlock? Fine, you get nothing.
At the end of the day, welfare, divorce overwhelmingly favoring women and child custody favoring mothers means that the average woman has every incentive and protection to do whatever nation wrecking, family wrecking and child destroying behavior she feels like on any particular day.
The only option men have that isn't a losing option, is "mgtow", but then they're merely choosing celibacy and sterility, which is simply another form of degeneracy.

Get rid of the age of consent, ban marriage not between a man and a woman and make the man hold his wife as property again. Give incentives for having white children

Women are kiked. Remove the kike, and women will improve dramatically.

Yes then copyright it with an ngo and only license it to approved instituions in order to preveng subversion. Also you can create an enforcenent mechanism by denying future troth to people who break contract. Exclusion and social cenaure is worse than death for most women.

U Muslim infiltrators to this website are unbearable with your dysgenic destruction of the European people.

Though, marriage is pretty much dead, only decent economically off Whites are having stable marriages these days.

Wont do any good unless you REMOVE all semites.

Kill yourself whore.

Removing bagel subsequently also removes kebab.

Nigger, your spam is fucking worse. Thanks for giving me something to filter though.

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Women need to be free to breed with the most worthy DNA that they can find. They don’t need to be tied to unworthy DNA.
THIS IS EUGENICS OR THE BETTERMENT OF THE HUMAN/EUROPEAN SPECIES
THE SEMITES DONT WANT THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO BREED WEAKNESS INTO OUR RACE

The issue is everyone wants to take the easy route in marriage and when things start getting slightly tough someone leaves instead of sticking it out. Women don't know how to choose the right man, which is obvious today

That is because marriage is dysgenic and TOTALLY UNNATURAL! Why do you think porn is popular? It’s popular because MEN ARE WIRED TO VARIETY IN SECUAL PARTNERS. Not knowing which offspring is yours means you will defend your whole race as though they WERE YOURS. The last thing in FUCK ALL MEN NEED IS MARRIAGE. It is terrible for women as well

*SEXUAL

Boomer rat tourist detected

GAS ALL BOOMER RATS

Have priests stop marrying sinners together. I have no idea why they marry couples that are sexually involved, nor faggots as that makes them living a life of sin.

If you can solve this OP, you deserve higher than the Nobel Fucking Prize tbh.

No they don't liar, there is ample evidence WITH BIOLOGISTS THAT DISPROVE YOUR FUCKING FANTASY.

NATURAL LAW COMES FIRST OVER SEMITIC LAW SO FUCK OFF WITH YOUR DYSGENIC ISLAM/KIKE LAWS

Porn is neither 'good' nor 'bad' it is THE EXPRESSION OF A MAN'S DESIRE TO LIVE MORE NATURALLY WITH MULTIPLE PARTNERS AND WITH SEXUAL VARIETY==

We know that the kikes (both branches) have infiltrated EVERY NATION and DESTROYED EVERY NATURAL CULTURE ON THIS PLANET IN FAVOR OF DYSGENIC BREEDING SO THAT YOU COULD NEVER COMPETE WITH THEM SO THIS:
IS NOT AN ARGUMENT, FAGGOT
Basically you are saying that 'muh because the kikes have destroyed all natural cultures' this is the way it should be, which is about AS RETARDED as it fucking gets you kike dick sucker.

We lived in tribal societies long before the kikes arrived and we will do so again when the SEMITIC FILTH is EXTERMINATED from this planet.

We do not need semites to dysgenically breed our SPECIES INTO SLAVERY LIKE YOU WANT THEM TO DO…women are better at choosing mates than men are, we are more selective and it is our natural role in ensuring the health and well being of our people. The semities, who need to be slaughtered, have removed the role of WOMEN and put GLOBOFUCKING FAGGOT in her place and made her a slave to man rather than a contributor to tribal well being and the advancement of the SPECIES.

KILL THE KIKES AND ALL THE SEMITIC FILTH AND RETURN THE EARTH TO A STATE OF PARADISE.

SEE THAT FUCKING KIKE FAGGOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP? THAT IS TANNINVIER THE FUCKING BLIND SERPENT WHO INTERFERES IN THE FUTURE OF OUR PEOPLE AND DESTROYS US

YOU FAGGOTS ARE ON YOUR FUCKING KNEES BEFORE HIM AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WTF YOU ARE DOING OR HOW MUCH DESTRUCTION HE HAS WIELDED AGAINST OUR PEOPLE

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Delete civil marriage. Make Traditional Christian Marriage the rule again, where you can't divorce and where the objective is a strong stable foundation to procreate and raise strong children.

You have to end the multiculturalism first. It's meaningless as long as you're trying to mix r and K selected people. Women will always defer to highest status, lowest effort mates, which in this multiculturalism means r selected goons, as being a "player" is constantly glorified.

No that is just shear desperation since all European/White males are hopelessly pacified weak slaves. The kikes imposed a pacification scheme on you; you thought it was a 'good idea' to become NOTHING but a garden variety gnome slaves to the kikes and do everything they wanted. Then they bring in men who are not weak slaves to breed with your women.

The line of hotties who are going to want to fuck Tarrant is going to be OUT THE DOOR…because he is European AND NOT A SLAVE.

Is that what you tell yourself at night to justify your own miscegenation? Being who you are, you're violating a principle tenant of your belief system.

I don't race mix…it would never even occur to me. BUT EVEN I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FREE MAN AND ONE WHO IS NOTHING BUT A SLAVE TO THE SYSTEM. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SLAVE OR THE OFFSPRING OF SLAVES.

Family -because thats what marriage is all about- requires the proper 'ecology'. Its not just a quaint custom it evolved to serve a purpose: The efficient division of labour between man and woman to successfully raise children.
She promises to be faithful and keep house, he promises to be faithful and work. Simple.

It was reinforced by stigma and ostracism for those that wouldn’t follow the rules such as sluts and 'cads'.
Other benefits both social and personal arose from the marriage agreement: Increased paternal certainty, redirecting sexual drives productively instead of wasting them in depravity, extended families and thus closer knit communities etc…

The present conditions of contraceptives, abortions, welfare state, sexual 'liberation' and so on results in marriage without purpose and family without function. Under such circumstances marriage is little more than a vestigial custom and we are all paying the price in broken homes, murdered babies, lack of purpose, declining birthrates, single parents . . . we all know the problems.

The conditions under which marriage and family must presently function has been deliberately engineered by the filthy stinking jew and their cultural marxist golems amongst others.

Solution:
Understand that marriage without purpose is family without meaning.
Until the natural ecology of family both materially and culturally are restored we will continue to free fall.

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GAS ALL SCHIZO BOOMERS

DIE SEMITIC SLAVER FILTH; THIS IS NOT YOUR FUCKING PLANET

Real marriage only exists in fertility cults. A worldview that strongly encourages committed marriage with the understanding that the order it creates is better than the chaos and destruction that comes from lack of commitment to society. Since civilization creates many stresses and temptations to break commitments the more successful fertility cults encourage practices to continually restrengthen pair bonds and encourage men to fully embrace and develop the masculine roles and energy in the relationship.

Personally I think whites should look back to Vedic Aryan ideals of marriage and relationships between men and women. Its not too different than the traditional Christian view, but it is more descriptive and explanatory about why it is best for men and women to make the commitment of marriage, how to maintain gender roles, and how to keep the pair bond strong through understanding of tantric arts.

You see that second comment of the third image is EXACTLY why marriage is dysgenic. It encourages offspring from males who do not deserve to breed…so while you think that you are getting something from this system, instead it is grinding you into mincemeat and you are voluntarily manufacturing weakness and dysgenic characteristics into your offspring because you think that 'every man has the right to mate' and pair up rather than the strength of humanity mating with the highest quality female. Do you really think that the people running this planet have a value for the slave customs that they impose ONTO YOU? You are little more than a quivering mass in the faces of those who are VASTLY INFERIOR to you because you hold onto and cherish the slave mentality SELFISHLY so that you 'get a chance to fuck'. THIS IS THE WORST IDEA FOR OUR RACE OF ALL TIME.

The only ones you are 'supporting' is this wretched fucking system that is genociding us. YOU ALL ARE GENOCIDING US…either by breeding weakness and slave mentality into your DNA or by upholding the same system that our semitic oppressors have engineered to keep you weak and degenerate. ALL THIS TIME YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WORTHWHILE, BUT INSTEAD YOU ARE KILLING US WITH YOUR WEAKNESS OR KILLING US WITH YOUR BREEDING WEAK AND INFERIOR OFFSPRING.

THIS IS NOT A 'GOOD THING' ANONS, YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF OUR PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO GET YOUR ROCKS OFF

MEN SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED A SAY IN BREEDING OR THE GENETIC FUTURE OF ANYTHING

Fuck off nigger.

do the same with men and ones who enabled it.

BY NOT GETTING MARRIED
And what I mean by that, is not allowing the state/government authority over your union. Have your ceremony, and do get married - but not "officially" in the eyes of the state/government.
And depending on where you are, this could also take away some incentive for divorce and risk thereof.

For women better means = more comfort, more security, more wealth.

So women, in your opinion, should breed with the top jews then.

Well done, retard, you defined worth by jewish standards and ended up becoming their toy.

Capitalism was a mistake.

What do we do with common law?

Well, all of the spics are overweight, so at least there's a chance of the remaining being white.

Familial contracts.
As put it, a marriage is a union of families for the purpose of procreation.
The easiest way to prevent potential separation is to form an agreement between the families.

The best structure would be to form a familial corporation managed by stable elders, where tithing is paid by every offspring and major assets are owned in whole by the corp.
The best structure has already been done, but was destroyed by kikes.

Good old dunecoon 80/20 logic.

Ayo hol up. you don't wanna move to a new concept because 'marriage' is corrupted. You wanna fix marriage. The corruption of marriage took a few steps extra because Americans are stubborn, but it follows a basic pattern.
This can be worked in reverse.

Just like with religion, the corruption of marriage comes from the outside. Namely the government contract of private matters. Enslavement to the state that makes the private relationship into a public statement, a political orientation, a religious symbol, and a financial shackle. It gives control over private matters to the outside, while creating nothing but stress in the inside.

Marriage has always been defined by people. As they please. If you need to redefine, please try not to involve god, ferries and shit or piss people of.

We got enough shit going on.

We need a holocaust for suckers like you.

Women must revert to being property and treat as such. The world is an increasingly shitty place because women are free to fuck everything up.

Read this and tell me this woman doesn't deserve to die.

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This story is a great example of the dangers of truth and construct of secrecy. At this point I have to bring the jews into this discussion, because their crime syndicate operates as a caste system, where different groups get access to different truths. It's all about keeping to secrecy until enough trust is created. Why? Because humanities biggest flaw is that they are constantly lying, because they have not understand how to handle their consciousness.

As for the story…the only important part was already achieved…kids were born, kids were raised. Everyone involved should be old enough to not destroy their family unit, because of some stone age mistakes. Just put her on blowjob duty for a month and enjoy your grandchildren. Fucking pussies.

Both the wife and the guy who cucked the other guy (if he wasn't aleady dead) should be executed.

rm -rf /kikes

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Polygamy is not natural unless you're wealthy you fucking assberger, it never was natural unless you're talking about when we weren't even living in caves yet. Our entire civilization is predicated on some form of religion and a stable family to set the roots of a society down

Then why do you men spend all your time searching for variety? It is natural, a much looser pair bonding scheme is NATURAL. What you are enduring is dysgenic man made laws that ensure that you remain slaves.

You children are fucking retarded. Whites have always been monogamous. We have archeological evidence going back over 30,000 years of us always being monogamous. The reason whites have hair colors and eye colors and attractive women is because we were monogamous, so low quality women didn't get the chance to breed like with subhumans where even the shittiest woman could be abduls 40th concubine. So uniquely to whites, women had to compete to breed just like men did. This is the very reason why we are the master race, and you chucklefucks want to act like niggers instead.

Oh, figures its the feminist antifa kikess.

Evidence?

Not a feminist
Not antifa
Not a kike

sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/steen/cogweb/ep/Frost_06.html

Stay mad fag. Thanks for the link. There is a difference between being FEMALE and being a feminist, but I wouldn't expect a faggot to understand.

Towards what purpose? Revenge and retribution? They spend 30 years together and have three adult kids…break the marriage for this to both start afresh at 50, and ignore those three decades? Do you want the kids to stop calling him daddy, and become divorce kids at a 20-30 age range? So their life was build on a lie, big fucking deal. All of human existence is build on top of endless lies. In a situation like this you have to be adult enough to judge between short term and long range consequences.

I doubt that he is as innocent as he portrays as well. Anyone who is not an incel and has actually BEEN in a relationship knows that his candy coated shitshow is little more than his fantasy about what is…rather than the truth of a real relationship.

Yes, and you are the self admitted feminist antifa kikess. We all know it, you use the exact same wording every time trying to convince everyone that women being whores is good and patriarchy is bad. You just desperately want to keep it so it is socially acceptable for men to be whores so even low status cows like you can get fucked. With monogamy, you would never get a man.

Fuck perhaps he is so delusional about reality that she desperately needed someone who had some grounding in her life and didn't live in a total fucking fantasy…IDK maybe someone who farted, or acted HUMAN in some way.

Men are more promiscuous than women are in turn, leading the way for degeneracy and ruin.

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That's why I said humanity is build on lies. The assumption when we discuss someones statement should always be that it's at best only one side of the coin, and more likely coated with lies anyway. But, that is something you keep for yourself, otherwise human dialog would never come to play. That's how fucked up our species is. We created societies by playing make believe around each other, instead of accepting and facing the absolute truths of nature.

I try to get people to question the things they have been taught, especially is SCIENCE (remember science, you know that thing that destroys your fucking fantasies about reality) and RATIONALITY teaches something different than their conditioning. I have more respect for the laws of NATURE than I do for the laws of failable men (because they can't resist moving the goalpost constantly). If you want to be a kike slave and get ground up as mincemeat in their service, how could I stop you? Go do your thing for 'israel'!! No one is stopping you from being the bitch of the elite aka the parasites.

Take for example the idea that women and men are monogamous…if it is 'true' why isn't it TRUE? We all know that both men and women cheat on their SO's so is it TRUE or just your fucking fantasy? It is your FANTASY FUCKTARD…not REALITY. I would prefer to stay grounded in reality instead of living in your fucking fantasy world. Look I know this is your game and that being someone slave makes you THINK that you are absolved of any responsibility for your actions. BUT YOU AREN'T.

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Cheating is not the norm. It's also not a stable strategy for general society. Cheating is called cheating because it's only a viable strategy for a minority. This makes it a parasitic strategy and you should

GAS YOURSELF BOOMER

She says, after having science prove her bullshit completely wrong.
And she's stopped pretending she's not the feminist antifa kikess. "OMG if you think whites should be monogamous you love jews!111". Nobody cares that you can't get your rocks off you fat cow.
Already proved you wrong fatcunt.
Again with the "if you aren't a degenerate leftist piece of shit then you are a slave!111" shit. Why deny it in the first place if you are going to tard out and start repeating the same shit as every other thread word for word?

It is more the norm than not.
More prevalent in men than in women.
If it is not A LAW OF NATURE, meaning something that can't be broken then it is just your fucking fantasy of what you would LIKE or what you WANT. NOT REALITY.

I don't want to live in your fantasy. I want to live in REALITY. Living, in reality, means that you give up these fucking 10-year-old style fantasies about how life works.

How are you so naive? Almost every single organism on this earth will "cheat" if they have the opportunity to obtain better DNA and improve their fitness in nature. Animals will often induce abortions or kill their young if better DNA appears.

Beyond that, have you forgotten how promiscuous people in the past were?
Mistresses and secret wives that specifically bore no children also seemed to be quite popular with men of any social class, but obviously were more popular with the elites.
Nowadays, instead of having a live in mistress, men just pitifully stare at porn, but it's the exact same thing.

It is clear to me that you are delusional and cannot understand the words that are coming OUT OF MY MOUTH but I will try once more.

NATURAL LAWS CANNOT BE BROKEN.

MANMADE LAWS CAN BE BROKEN.

DO PEOPLE CHEAT ON THEIR SO'S?

IF THEY DO, (YES THEY DO) THEN IT IS NOT A NATURAL LAW IT IS A MANMADE LAW AND THUS SHOULD BE VIEWED IN THE SAME LIGHT.

MEN ARE NOT GOD user. STOP PRETENDING THAT YOU HAVE SOME SAY IN ANYTHING.

THIS.

See they have these burning desires to fulfill their natural instincts and instead these are channeled into WORK AS A FUCKING SLAVE TO SUPPORT THE ENTIRE FUCKING 7 BILLION LIVING SOULS and porn…it is literally the most pathetic thing I have ever seen…and THEY LIKE IT AND WANT IT.

These 'patriarchy cucks' will defend being the slave of the entire planet and the people who rule over them with their dying breath.

There's no saving them. They've created the same societies with incredibly similar hierarchies over and over again, across the ages.
The world today is what they want and it's only an infinitely small percentage of men that actually oppose it.

The only way things will ever change, is if a greater power comes to us and makes men submit (ie AI, aliens, sentient global virus). Otherwise men will just continue running in the hamster wheel and think they've gotten real "change" when it's simply their masters changing out their feed and bedding.

Yeah, not a kikess at all.

How do we isolate these and preserve them?

You know what a logical fallacy is, right?
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
If you don't you are committing one right now.

The thing about "cheating" in life is this…under natural law this is called the path of least resistance, which is rooted in self preservation., but nature means struggling in between two opposites; life and death. So with death constantly approaching, and life being the path of eternal struggle, the path of least resistance is towards death, therefore it's not self preservation, but something called temptation, which proves that life is a test.

Back to the cheating aspect of it…when we pursuit something that we perceive as the path of least resistance, then that's hedonistic, and thereby self destructive, because it hurts everyone around you to the point where the entire ecosystem is destroyed. The purpose of life itself is creation with the given means in accordance with the laws of nature. You cannot cheat without destroying everything. And that is a responsibility given to humans, based on us having a consciousness to understand this. And we failed spectacularly at it.

I'm not sure it's possible. Every society has had their outcasts and dissenters, whether they are naturally occuring or placed there.
But in any society that man makes, violence and subjugation is almost always the answer (with varying degrees of "intelligence" injected into these plans). The only way for the minority to best the majority is through these means, but I'm not sure this is possible without some majority help. Once the majority intervenes, it's just the same cycle as every other time and we're back to square one.

You have the option of suicide at any time. Suicide is choosing the path of least resistance because you no longer have to 'struggle' for self-preservation. I think you might be confused about your value sets or have some of them tangled and assigned to things that are not as meaningful, valuable or true as you think.

But since I haven't had a chance to carefully comb through them and analyze them myself I would need some time to think about it. In a reproductive paradigm (this universe) the ultimate goal is a reproduction (however this is achieved). Manmade laws which interfere or inhibit reproduction are ABBERANT…because they subvert the Natural Law to the will of men and cause turmoil, strife, death, and anxiety.

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Ooops.

Most men don't do that, it's women who do that

bruh

inb4 then they are slaves