Our public education has failed us. What they did teach us was for their benefit. So my question is… what are some good books for a person of European decent to learn about the history of their people? AKA Western Civilization/European/American/Etc history.
I know there has to be someone well versed in this subject. A comprehensive subject list/list of books would be much appreciated.
WTF? The public education system succeeded beyond the enemy's wildest wet dreams.
Brandon Gomez
Just as was intended from tbe beginning.
Connor Gutierrez
You don't say.
There isn't much (any?) written by the Celts, but you can use Roman sources for good information (albeit biased) about some of them. Tacitus and Caesar's Gallic wars provide some interesting information. Herodotus is also a comfy read if you want ancient Greek history.
Carson Diaz
no shit… hence the post
Daniel Adams
History is BUNK!
Owen Wright
NO SHIT SHERLOCK you should be a fucking detective SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD SAGE THREAD Start reading, "The Culture Of Critique" by Kevin Macdonald you newfaggot. Here's a .pdf I strongly suggest you order an actual book so that you can highlight and take notes in it. Amazon banned it. You can still get it from the Barnes and Noble online bookstore Around $20.00 is the asking price.
Brandon Martinez
Be sure to lurk here
>>>/pdfs/ How did you find out about this place? From the news? Acquiring information isn't going to be easy, learning is both a great virtue and burden for white men. Think of it like Grad School, for life.
Noah Long
thank you
Luis Williams
I am not new to these ideas. I am fully red pilled on Hitler and WW2. I follow people like Red Ice Media.. etc. I also know a lot of history… but I feel it lacks in the European department. You all seem like educated folks… hence I decided my first post was to ask you guys. I have been on chan sites before… main reason I have been checking out this site is because of Brenton.
Ethan Sanders
goddammit we have yet another influx of newfags I don't mind showing them shit but it gets annoying sometimes maybe start a Zig Forums 101 Cyclical thread
Landon Miller
Just don't do what normalfaggots do, and that is to start reading about 'antiquity' and then stop reading well before the invention of the printing press, where real history as it happened can be found.
We live in a period similar to the invention of the printing press with the coming of the internet, so if you want to learn shit that might be useful, that few others know about, it is the place to start.
Are you really so stupid as to think that is real history?
It's written in the centuries around the invention of the printing press, but you'll never get that, because you started with the greeks, and stopped well before the printing press changed everything just like the internet changes everything today.
James Phillips
look at this schlomo
Connor Young
Jewish history is virtually all lies, and not just mostly misdated like with the European one.
Are you a burger by any chance, since it's usually burgers that care about the 'ancient' fiction that fits with the Bible fiction?
Italians are the most skeptic to Rome being 2000 years old, and not medieval, because they have the most surviving arts and artifacts. Burger buy everything, because burgers don't take care of anything that is old.
Leo Moore
Rome isnt greek you fucking degenerate read a book.
Nathan Cooper
The boomers and the normalfaggots are it up like it was fucking blow
Landon Clark
You really are some dumb brainwashed burger, ain't you?
The modern Greeks worship their partially invented history, so they are not skeptics like the Italians.
Renaissance art focus a lot on how Christianity won over the Pagans, and Italians get that this focus mean that it's not 1200 years since Christianity won.
Has this statue been 1200 years under ground, or was it made in the 1500?
I'm not a Fomenkoist, since I don't buy his reconstruction, but he is correct how silly it is to think that Jesus lived 2000 years ago.
Noah Myers
FedIce hasbara, right on cue. Remember by happenstance that they were "hacked" just before Charlottesville, giving them the fortunate reason not to show up? Reminds me of Lucky Larry Silversteins 9/11 doctors appointment.
Colton Hall
Read this and you will see the rise and fall of civilizations, the battle of blood and money, and the true horrors of the age we are living in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decline_of_the_West After that you should also read Imperium by Yockey.
Yeah, ok. How is your report coming along? Just for your information, we were all radicalized by Lauren Southern and our philosophical school is part Ben Shapiro and part Milo.
Jaxon Kelly
Yeah. That was proof that the FBI was behind the Cville setup, since local Government can't hack and deplatform to make sure that the MSM narrative is broadcast unopposed.
Oliver White
I'm not going to argue with you whether the Greeks existed or not. do you have any proof that all greek writings poems and philosophies are all just made up and they never existed? I don't give a fuck how skeptical some faggots are, thats not proof .
Jacob Diaz
Let me guess, he puts the empires after one another space out over 4000 years?
Did you know that the four empires was Shitolic theology?
Adam Sullivan
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Elijah King
You dense fool. They "hacked" themselves, creating a convenient excuse not to show up.
Christopher Wood
I have not said they did not exist, I said that they have been missdated, and that some of it is more or less pure fiction.
OK. Explain this then.
Heavy Cavalry was developed three(four?) times. First the Greeks, then the Roman, before the Goths and the Franks developed it on medieval times.
The problem here is that horses were too small in the past, so that the horses must have grown and shrunken three times, and that is just too stupid to buy.
lol okay do you have any proof of that or are you just going to say that. missdated from what and by whom? when did they REALLY exist then?
All I said was to read greek writing to start off, not to only Greek writing of course people should read all of the western canon.
Ryan Hernandez
Why in the hell do you keep using this meme
Joshua Murphy
You didn't know that horses were small in the past?
At first the horse could not be ridden, but was used to pull chariots. As it grew larger, it could be ridden, but it took centuries for the (Persians?), Greeks, Romans and the Franks to get a horse big enough for an armed knight.
I think it might have been the Hanseatics, since they were the first to use a common dating System, since dating by King was hard.
They wrote J 345, and later Historians intpreted this as 1345. (random example)
What I think fucked up everything was the 30 year war, since both religion and history became weapons of war between protestants and shitolics. Not that long before the invention of the printing press. Renaissance art show Christianity winning over Pagans a lot, and that means it's not 1200 years ago since it happened.
Brandon Hughes
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Hunter Green
At first the horse could not be ridden, but was used to pull chariots. As it grew larger, it could be ridden, but it took centuries for the (Persians?), Greeks, Romans and the Franks to get a horse big enough for an armed knight.
This means nothing there are still horses today that are tiny as fuck. Not all animals evolve at the same time, some can be small and 1000 miles away hey can be much larger. each civilization had to each breed big enough horses to ride.
Your logic is deeply flawed here the Renasissance art showing Christianity winning over pagans doen't mean it was happening at the time of its creation.
Wyatt Turner
Because it's fucking silly once you look into it.
Matthew Clark
Read old textbooks, like actual old textbooks. I have an old schoolbook about government from 1906. It's crazy how differently they presented the material and how they talked about the amendments in the constitution.
Ethan Jones
So why did they all need centuries before they could use armored knights, if there were horses big enough around?
That you find horses, dogs, pigs and rabbits of all sizes today, is not an argument that it was like this 2000 years ago.
Why not just admit that you are American?
Matthew Long
Oh, and I just remembered this bit.
Horse DNA shows that the oldest horse breeds are in N-Europe.
Austin Morgan
This is very good advice I have followed myself.
It's very instructive to how History is a contemporary critique of the current society, as much as it is the author's attempt at representing the past correctly.
Daniel Reyes
All this horse shit is stupid. Your arguments are dumb your logic is flawed and I am done speaking to a mouth breather.
Gabriel Jackson
Can history really be trusted? Im sure kings, rulers, emperors,etc would have made sure to falsify events to make them look better or because they just want to change shit they didnt like. Is there any discovery out there where some fag indiana jones wanabee finds some hidden suppressed knowledge that contradicts a piece of history?
I'd say Will Durant's books on the Story of Civilization are pretty good. you can get them on scribd of b-ok.cc for free since printed versions are expensive
Brody Miller
Why not admit that you don't know biology and that you are an American?
For Europoors it's simpler to see that history is fucked up, because you only need to enter a pre-reformation church and see that the art don't corresponds to the current Bible, but rather with what today is called Apocrypha. (non official gospels)
Those pictures don't match the texts. Obviously racial mixture is always a concern where more than two races cohabit a region, such as in India. The texts reveal nothing more than a disgust towards women that mixed with 'Ethiopians', i.e. blacks, and the fact that they were prosecuted in court on adultery charges shows that even in the ancient world, racial miscegenation with blacks was rare and frowned upon—which is to say, the opposite of what your meme is insinuating. Those friezes and mosaics show nothing more than tan men with pale women, with different paint colors used to accentuate their genders, as was common practice. The one with a big willy is Priapus, a minor fertility god. Not a single black man is shown in the art accompanying your fancy fetish macro. Jews—and this is nothing new—project their fantasies and issues onto their enemies, and it's fairly easy to read them like a book once you understand this.
t. masters in classical philology with minor in art history
Finding that is not very hard. What is hard is to get normalfaggots to bother to read about your discovery and how that shows the authorities are wrong.
Just look at the horse-importance denier in this thread, that thinks he is smart enough to say that what I say is wrong, without even bothering to look into the history of the horse.
Not even the Laocoon statue that I posted, is something he can admit that is either faked(real ancient status was worth 10 times modern copies 500 years ago, so the Italians started to fake them ).
The Laocoon could be real, but then it have not been 1200 years under ground. That Michelangelo found it, IIRC, is however a strong indication that he or his team made it, buried it, only to find it again, and sell it for 10 times the money.
Ethan Gomez
A good way to separate real from fakes, is that the originals were painted with linseed oil paint, and remains of that can be found with modern technology.
There is another problem with linseed oil paints though, and that is that the linen needs to grow far north (somewhere cold) for the linseed oil to harden without siccatives(oil drying agents, usually metallic salts), and that is a modern invention.
That you find a Dutch renaissance at the same time as the Italian one is thus not strange, since the renaissance artists needed to import oil from there to make their paints.
I was thinking the same thing op. The jew is afraid of the intellect of people. The intellect of people were formed by experiencing life and by analysis of the memory of the experienced thing.
Now it's a collection of exposed facts to put it on a bucket and use it without knowing by means of meditation and this is school. Where all people are it their intellects not for improvement but under conditioning to serve who controls the school. The jew are in control of ONU, states obey ONU and schools obey the state.
I need true literature. The lies are everywhere because everyone was in school and everyone of schools are creating books of lies.
Ian Lopez
1)old books pre 1960s-70s. academia has always been a tool for the powers that be,but their goals before then were very different than they are now.
2) old translations of famous texts. This is how academia gets away with reinterpreting historical works to fit their current narrative. These books get retranslated with completely different meanings.
Austin Thompson
Titus Livius History of Rome Herodotus Plato Suetonius Lives of the twelve caesars Plutarch
It was invented once by the Scythians and used where applicable. Go try charging things while in the Greek mountains or wherever it is not a rolling plane.
One of the roman emperors skipped like 700 years in the calendar so he could rule over the millenium.
William Morales
Youre an idiot. "They release a holocaust movie every year. It must not have happened 70 years ago, its mut have happened this year." Great argument. And yea horses can shrink
Chase Lewis
op im sorry everyone is giving you retarded books based on false history, is like they agree everything is false and then submit information based on contemporary information😂😂😂
here's a good starting list. also everything post1930 is propaganda.
his new chronology is very interesting, ppl forget the communists destroyed much of russia and the asian culture, decimated the populations and raised entire cities. also the "dark ages" and reformation, the first crusades ect left many towns and cities empty. much of the ruins in Europe are only like 800 year old abandoned cities
Carter Young
Amazingly, it did. It's now nothing more than a daycare center for niggers, wiggers and spics.
Easton Butler
Someone woke up:)
Jacob Perez
ANyone got something that is beyond just world war 2 and national socialism? Like centuries of history that has been lied about?
Orwell knew about the Jews right? What the fuck else would he be referencing here.
Nathaniel Young
That's actually a good idea. This or a definitive guide to what's happening in the world and why.
Jaxon Peterson
No shit
Charles Jones
pol has always been high iq board thank you for contribution user
Leo Evans
I was thinking we should start up a list of "homework", where it can focus on various on topics such as Media companies. Where people can be told to find the top 9 movie making companies, listing their top (((directors))) and (((owners))) and list out some of their top degenerate movies.
Things like that, which can be a fun way for people to engage in learning about the JQ and other racial topics and not make it such a passive listening/reading exercise.