This thread is not another thread on the divide between civic nationalism and ethnonationalism, instead it is based on yet another divide in nationalist thought: universalizing nationalism and particularistic nationalism. The former term is what I refer to as "cucked nationalism". It is on the level of civic nationalism in terms of its abhorrence to any National Socialist who truly understands the philosophy. Universalizing nationalism is the belief that all peoples should have a state and a claim to existence on this Earth. Particularistic nationalism is the nationalism of National Socialism. It operates from a truly Völkisch standpoint: one's own people are their first and only interest in this world of eternal struggle. Operating from this standpoint, as Hitler did, one's own race – in this case the Aryan race – is the center-point of one's worldview and concerns. It makes no claims at what should be, but instead operates from the National Socialist view that history is the progression of a people's struggle for existence.
What sort of nationalist are you if you advocate for blacks or, God forbid, even Jews having their own little chunk of the Earth? Why should anything beyond the standpoint of your own Volk even enter into your mind? Hitler states in Mein Kampf that National Socialism is "A philosophy of life which endeavors to reject the democratic mass idea and give this earth to the best people – that is, the highest humanity…"
While the aims of our immediate struggle are the ending of the ongoing white genocide and the reclamation of our countries, this will never be the end. Struggle will continue; our people will grow and continue to prosper and, with an expansion of numbers, again spread across this Earth as our ancestors did into the New World, Australia and New Zealand. This Earth will, no matter how many centuries must first pass, be given to the highest humanity, the Aryan race.
But user, National Socialism did work, so your image shows an important factor: You can't differentiate between things bearing the name "socialism" because of ingrained rhetoric triggering you.
Germany is gone though. Clearly it wasn't longed for this world.
Jeremiah Baker
National socialism was more cucked than standard ethnonationalsm, as national socialism was birthed in a plebian mentality of "universal brotherhood", while at least people like codreanu and mussolini understood the importance of aristocracy, class and natural authority within a homogenous nation state.
Nazi Germany is gone because Jews wanted it gone, dumbfuck.
Grayson Allen
Your idea of Socialism isn't really what Germany had, they were still free-market capitalists, more so then Russia which was much more closed
Nathaniel Ward
Yeah lot of good that did Mussolini right
Blake Cox
Sure thing, fam.
Christopher Hughes
Lots of good it did the entirety of the axis that lost the war.
James Hernandez
it was stifled because it worked. it was an answer and a clear cut vision in the confusion. it fixed the problems the world made.
Jace Hernandez
*because they fought 5 different superpowers at the same time
Isaac Reed
The socialism of the Jew Marx and the socialism of the NSDAP are completely different brands of socialism with almost zero relation to one another. In the Zweites Buch Hitler indeed proclaims that he is a socialist, saying: Right away we can see the differences of the Hitler's socialism versus the socialism of the Marxists. The Marxists believe that class struggle is the driving force of history, while the National Socialists says it is struggle and that the reconciliation of the classes of a particularly nation is indeed possible. Marxists likewise advocate for democracy – the substitution of the masses for the personality of the individual and a repudiation of the aristocratic principle of nature. Finally, the Marxists advocate for the seizing of the means of production and putting them allegedly at the service of society. National Socialism does not advocate this and supports private property. National Socialism means advocating for and securing the well-being of one's own Volk. It is the complete antithesis of Judeo-Marxist thought.
Not because of National Socialism though. Clearly, it was so good, it was a threat that needed to be destroyed. That speaks for itself.
And you didn't address the issue, which is with you: You got so triggered by "socialist" as a term, you immediately demonstrated that you're still under the mind-spell of world jewry. The fact that you tried to dodge that is demonstrable of you also being extremely lacking in integrity.
Colton Cook
So we're using cuckchan buzzwords now
Alexander Kelly
No, they weren't free market capitalists. There was no free market for foreign goods nor for foreign labor.
John Jackson
Is that what you keep saying when you get BTFO? l e l
It's not my fault that you are unable of reading two short paragraphs and a quote user. I just explained how they are different. Just because two things share a word doesn't mean that they are the same.
Jayden James
DA JOOS DID IT HURR DURR
Joseph White
Of course, this is a shitposting thread. The OP is an effortpost with no context and the first response was a meme with no contextual application. This is one person talking back and forth to himself.
Yes, that's literally the case. I'm glad you could admit it. If you couldn't, I'd have to say you'd have even less integrity.
Nationalism is for Yugoslavians, National Socialism is for Commies.
Gavin Rivera
this sounds wrong for some reason
Robert Miller
Just report these fags, they're cuckchanners trying to derail a good thread discussing politics, every post of theirs is just another faggot shitpost
Hunter Barnes
>ideology is so successful it makes fools of the other two major ideological positions - (((capitalism and communism))), two sides of the bagel - on the planet You can't make this shit up.
Nicholas Ross
Might want to add, Hitler would never have risen to such prominence if he didn't at least acknowledge the aristocracy of Germany, all of Hitlers campaigning and National Socialism promotion needed capital to start with. His idea though wasn't to abolish them altogether but rather replace them with a more Nationally devoted upper class who had stronger ties to the German people. His ideas weren't any different then anyone else's in History, he just happened to be EXTREMELY good at implementing them in such a short amount of time
Thomas Turner
Philosophy within National Socialism is like philosophy in a dirty commie's gulag. No philosophy inside!
Who cares. Both mussolini and hitler are good. National socialism is about struggle and truth.
Ethan Bailey
(((You)))
Nicholas Gray
there can be nationalist capitalism as an alternative to national socialism and civic nationalism
Jordan Fisher
National (((Capitalism))) is an oxymoron. Profit margins and the (((Capitalist Class))) faggots both demand open borders. The term is just as illegitimate and kiked as National (((Bolshevism)))
Jacob Green
Define socialism as well as extent and aspects thereof you are advocating. We all agree on nationalism, but we need to break the abstraction down of what you want in terms of socialism.
You remind me of idiots in Russia that still want to go back in time and dream about ideal commie world that will be a paradise for the proletariat. Their arguments are exactly like yours, by the way. They don't care that communism won't work in the real world, and don't want to consider anything except their ideal and how to enforce it on everyone.
So go ahead, talk about cucked nationalists and about the Aryan race deserving the whole world instead of their own lands and make the whole world your enemy again, so instead of removing the invaders you will have to worry about fighting slavs, chinks, and everyone else. And you're not in the 20th century anymore, the normies of the world may be blind to the islamic virus, because the muzzies have managed to exploit the freedom of religion bug successfully, but they sure as hell are immune and will notice if you bring out Aryan vs Untermenschen thing into the open, and thus no one will wait for you to gain power so you can make them slaves and take their lands for your Aryan race.
This is already what the "Right" wing of the ZOG believes, because they see Ashkenazi (Euro) Jews as being part of their race, and they don't even believe in Nations. Nation ≠ Race. Anyone trying to tell you that it does is trying to make you believe the Kikes in Israel are part of your race. Europeans belong to many different Nations, and the White Nation, the largest of the European Nations, is the English-speaking European Nation, composed of the English-speaking Europeans in "America," "Canada," the UK, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc. We are all one Nation. And we're not French, Germans, Italians, Russians, or Spaniards. They belong to different Nations. I repeat, anyone trying to tell you Nation = Race is trying to get to you identify with Ashkenazi (European) Jewery. They're the same people who say Ashkenazi Jews have 115 IQs, and rightly rule over the masses of the White Nation. They're the same people who will tell you Israel is a beacon of democracy and an outpost of something called "Western" "civilization." They're the "Right" wing of the ZOG.
Jacob Barnes
Speak a bit more clearly.
Thomas Hernandez
What did Hitler accomplish? He left Germany in ruins, the people's psyche permanently broken and cucked.
What did economic nationalism accomplish? Every single developed economy in the world.
Carson Edwards
Outside of a meritocracy as Plato described in the Republic, this is a recipe for corruption and decay. By its nature, hereditary privilege is not the optimal distribution of power within a society because you're not giving power to the most able, you're giving it to their distant descendants, long after regression to the mean has rendered any genetic IQ advantages to be meaningless.
Alexander Myers
Freeing his people for 12 years and getting out of poverty. You mean the people who declared war against him and destroying his shit? People who don't want to ne slaves but get killed or declared war for it quit drinking the (((ally))) cool aid (((torpedo)))
Jeremiah Moore
A nation is not a country. It is a closed gene pool consisting of people from a common ancestry. Like a scaled up tribe, or family. Walking into a nation's territory doesn't magically make you part of it's people, especially if you remain a separate gene pool. Only ancestry and blood can.
Nathaniel Allen
Also bringing back the spirit of the people nationalizing the banks and banning usury and get war declared because of it.
Grayson Jackson
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Luis Howard
No countries have that right now except syria iran and north korea Lurk moar before posting because what you posted is retarded.
Joseph Russell
Also >blaming them instead of the (((allies))) or jews.
Noah Turner
For the benefit of those that havent got their heads around National Socialist fundamentals, see pics related.
No one is falling (((torpedo))) spamming this in multiple threads won't also change this.
Owen Harris
He didn't free his people. He had turbo jews like Max Warburg on the board of the reichsbank. That's a (((propaganda myth))). He got millions of Germans killed in the war, slaughtered white people and Christians, and never attacked the center of the international Jew in London.
Luke Martinez
Germany is gone because our grandfathers fought a war and killed it not because of a problem of national socialism
Nicholas Hill
You are NSA and you have no argument.
Ryan Price
No he didn't you retarded fuck that was (((churchill))) and any government owned by jews did that not hitler he tried avoiding. They were christains who were fighting him. He had no way of getting there. Also germans surnames till jews stole them to shapeshift in america.
Jordan Ramirez
watch nazi economics on youtube by CT
Jack James
*fighting for him.
Bentley Barnes
He nationalized the banks that was well documented and the ones who opposed him admit it that was his greatest crime.
Thomas Williams
You spread disinformation and retarded arguments that's already been argued.
Hitler put millions of Poles and Russians in camps with the Jews where they starved to death, you fucking white genocide denier.
Jordan Scott
Blame the (((allies))) for bombing the supply lines retard. Lurk moar. Also
Matthew Long
Also look up the russians who fought for hitler to try to overthrow stalin.
Lucas Martin
And ignore the censorship done under both of them.
Anthony Torres
Families can fall in and out of the aristocracy (they did) but you need the title to be heridtary for long term breeding. People need to be bred into their class ei farmers bred for farming, craftsmen bred for crafting, aristocrats bred for administration. You need to know your role when your born and you need to be forced into it. This is how you get a coherent society.
I believe that except I only care about White people having a state. I believe that all European Peoples should have their own nation-state. We should not have a single giant multi-ethnic state for all White people. That's ridiculous and would only work in America.
Nathan Myers
Why haven't we been doing this shit already? This is National Socialism but on a housing scale.
Christian Brooks
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Luke Green
"Americans" don't know the difference between the word Nation and country, because they have been conditioned not to understand it. "America" was founded on anti-nationalism, because "America" was created by splitting the English-speaking European Nation. "America" is a country, but not a Nation. This ZOG-faggot just defined all humans on the planet as belonging to the same Nation. I'm sure they actually consciously did this, in order to signal to people "Look how dumb Zig Forums is, they don't even realize I'm saying half-breed nigger mongrels were produced from a "open" gene pool!" Here is a clue, for Anons who don't know. Two different languages = two different Nations, and Nations don't cross the racial barrier.
Aaron Ross
Not surprised.
Ryan Wood
Remember when you got banned a minute ago? I do. ;D
Connor Clark
XD
This is how you know the mods are in on it man. Tip top kek.
Hitler had no intention of conquering the entire Earth and exterminating all other peoples. The Reich did more to liberate oppressed peoples than any other country in history, sheerly on dint of its actions against Jewish Capitalism and British Imperialism. Merely by helping to liberate India, they de-facto freed a quarter of the human fucking race, who WEREN'T EVEN GERMAN.
Your ideas are ridiculous and contrary to the stated beliefs of National Socialism.
Jonathan Cruz
So let me get this right, if some Untermenschen decided to betray his own people and fight for the enemy so he could eat better and not die in a concentration camp, or maybe he was a good life after the war for him personally, that suddenly means Hitler didn't plan to do a genocide of slavs to free the space he needed for the Aryan race? Are you really going to deny the concept of Lebensraum here like some fucking muslim who talks about how moderate and enlightened he is?
I guess the next thing you are going to tell me is that because some leftist whites like NZ PM are happy to wear a hijab, or because especially deluded white people actually convert to Islam, that Islam is not that bad and we should all convert? Have you lost your fucking mind?
Adrian Parker
banned? No. Still here, lad. Even made a thread earlier lol
