Cucked ""Nationalism"" versus National Socialism

Samuel Mitchell
Samuel Mitchell

This thread is not another thread on the divide between civic nationalism and ethnonationalism, instead it is based on yet another divide in nationalist thought: universalizing nationalism and particularistic nationalism. The former term is what I refer to as "cucked nationalism". It is on the level of civic nationalism in terms of its abhorrence to any National Socialist who truly understands the philosophy. Universalizing nationalism is the belief that all peoples should have a state and a claim to existence on this Earth. Particularistic nationalism is the nationalism of National Socialism. It operates from a truly Völkisch standpoint: one's own people are their first and only interest in this world of eternal struggle. Operating from this standpoint, as Hitler did, one's own race – in this case the Aryan race – is the center-point of one's worldview and concerns. It makes no claims at what should be, but instead operates from the National Socialist view that history is the progression of a people's struggle for existence.

What sort of nationalist are you if you advocate for blacks or, God forbid, even Jews having their own little chunk of the Earth? Why should anything beyond the standpoint of your own Volk even enter into your mind? Hitler states in Mein Kampf that National Socialism is "A philosophy of life which endeavors to reject the democratic mass idea and give this earth to the best people – that is, the highest humanity…"

While the aims of our immediate struggle are the ending of the ongoing white genocide and the reclamation of our countries, this will never be the end. Struggle will continue; our people will grow and continue to prosper and, with an expansion of numbers, again spread across this Earth as our ancestors did into the New World, Australia and New Zealand. This Earth will, no matter how many centuries must first pass, be given to the highest humanity, the Aryan race.

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Ethan Campbell
Ethan Campbell

Not really a fan of socialism, user.

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Gavin Smith
Gavin Smith

I didn't even read your effort post.

But user, National Socialism did work, so your image shows an important factor: You can't differentiate between things bearing the name "socialism" because of ingrained rhetoric triggering you.

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Aiden Brown
Aiden Brown

But user, National Socialism did work
Germany is gone though. Clearly it wasn't longed for this world.

Jeremiah Baker
Jeremiah Baker

National socialism was more cucked than standard ethnonationalsm, as national socialism was birthed in a plebian mentality of "universal brotherhood", while at least people like codreanu and mussolini understood the importance of aristocracy, class and natural authority within a homogenous nation state.

Hitler himself even regretted using the term.

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Xavier King
Xavier King

Nazi Germany is gone because Jews wanted it gone, dumbfuck.

Grayson Allen
Grayson Allen

Your idea of Socialism isn't really what Germany had, they were still free-market capitalists, more so then Russia which was much more closed

Nathaniel Ward
Nathaniel Ward

Yeah lot of good that did Mussolini right

Blake Cox
Blake Cox

Your idea of Socialism isn't really what Germany had, they were still free-market capitalists
Sure thing, fam.

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

Lots of good it did the entirety of the axis that lost the war.

James Hernandez
James Hernandez

it was stifled because it worked. it was an answer and a clear cut vision in the confusion. it fixed the problems the world made.

Jace Hernandez
Jace Hernandez

*because they fought 5 different superpowers at the same time

Isaac Reed
Isaac Reed

The socialism of the Jew Marx and the socialism of the NSDAP are completely different brands of socialism with almost zero relation to one another. In the Zweites Buch Hitler indeed proclaims that he is a socialist, saying:
I am a socialist. I see before me no class or rank, but rather a community of people who are connected by blood, united by language, and subject to a common fate.
Right away we can see the differences of the Hitler's socialism versus the socialism of the Marxists. The Marxists believe that class struggle is the driving force of history, while the National Socialists says it is struggle and that the reconciliation of the classes of a particularly nation is indeed possible. Marxists likewise advocate for democracy – the substitution of the masses for the personality of the individual and a repudiation of the aristocratic principle of nature. Finally, the Marxists advocate for the seizing of the means of production and putting them allegedly at the service of society. National Socialism does not advocate this and supports private property. National Socialism means advocating for and securing the well-being of one's own Volk. It is the complete antithesis of Judeo-Marxist thought.

Justin Thompson
Justin Thompson

The socialism of the Jew Marx and the socialism of the NSDAP are completely different brands of socialism with almost zero relation to one another
Is that what you keep telling yourself? l o l

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Lincoln Ortiz
Lincoln Ortiz

Germany is gone.
Not because of National Socialism though. Clearly, it was so good, it was a threat that needed to be destroyed.
That speaks for itself.

And you didn't address the issue, which is with you: You got so triggered by "socialist" as a term, you immediately demonstrated that you're still under the mind-spell of world jewry.
The fact that you tried to dodge that is demonstrable of you also being extremely lacking in integrity.

Colton Cook
Colton Cook

So we're using cuckchan buzzwords now

Alexander Kelly
Alexander Kelly

No, they weren't free market capitalists. There was no free market for foreign goods nor for foreign labor.

John Jackson
John Jackson

Is that what you keep telling yourself?
Is that what you keep saying when you get BTFO? l e l

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Samuel King
Samuel King

"lol"? You couldn't even be Mossad, you're some kind of boomer…

Ryan Stewart
Ryan Stewart

it was so good that it needed to be destroyed

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Bentley Sullivan
Bentley Sullivan

I'm your prom date.

Matthew Jackson
Matthew Jackson

It's not my fault that you are unable of reading two short paragraphs and a quote user. I just explained how they are different. Just because two things share a word doesn't mean that they are the same.

Jayden James
Jayden James

DA JOOS DID IT HURR DURR

Joseph White
Joseph White

Of course, this is a shitposting thread.
The OP is an effortpost with no context and the first response was a meme with no contextual application.
This is one person talking back and forth to himself.

Yes, that's literally the case. I'm glad you could admit it.
If you couldn't, I'd have to say you'd have even less integrity.

Isaiah Ortiz
Isaiah Ortiz

Just because two things share a word doesn't mean that they are the same.

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Evan White
Evan White

That's not what free-market capitalism is

Carter Allen
Carter Allen

Literally the case though. If you can't come to terms with it, that's on you.

Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

That's also literally the case.

Christopher Walker
Christopher Walker

Don't worry, user. I'm sure your pipedream socialism will work next time around.

Hudson Lee
Hudson Lee

Oh great, now we got reddit cucks in here too

Tyler Miller
Tyler Miller

actual effort-post that could be of some interest
spergs shit it up by the first post
Swear this shit’s a pysop

Christian Torres
Christian Torres

<i swear guys im not like those other socialists!

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Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

There's nothing pipedream about it, it worked great… Until (((capitalists))) teamed up with (((communists))) to destroy it. True facts.

Tell us more about how clear orange-flavored soda and orange paint are the same because they both have orange in them!

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Dylan Phillips
Dylan Phillips

muh intelligent discussion on muh Mongolian throat singing conglomerate

Elijah Baker
Elijah Baker

Were the other socialists into private property?
I don't think they were. l u l z

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Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

Its not a 'psyop', its a shilling thread.
OP and this faggot
are the same nigger.

He came here to make a shitty thread to try to create an argument he could shitpost amongst. They do this regularly. Its very pathetic.

Thomas Butler
Thomas Butler

comparing political ideologies with paint
B I G B R A I N

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Jayden Wilson
Jayden Wilson

Now, here's a question: How long will this thread last?

If its a mod thread, it'll be here forever.
If its not, it pretty much has to be deleted, given the context.
8ch.net/log.php?board=pol

This isn't even a question, its just a nonsense bait platform floating in the ether.

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Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

Just because two things share a word means that they are the same.
<Now get in my crow.

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Juan Flores
Juan Flores

Good luck building a new reich when your threads can survive one slowtard shitposting in it.

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Cameron Walker
Cameron Walker

can
Smooth fuckface.

Just because two things share a word means that they are the same.
<Now get in my snake.

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Jordan Adams
Jordan Adams

Nationalism is for Yugoslavians, National Socialism is for Commies.

Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

this sounds wrong for some reason

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

Just report these fags, they're cuckchanners trying to derail a good thread discussing politics, every post of theirs is just another faggot shitpost

Hunter Barnes
Hunter Barnes

ideology is so successful it makes fools of the other two major ideological positions - (((capitalism and communism))), two sides of the bagel - on the planet
they get assmad and attack it because jewish financiers tell them to, so they lie to their populaces to drag them into a war
war which is nominally started to protect Polish sovereignty
they still nearly get their shit pushed in
after the war they give Poland to the Soviet Union in entirety
US and USSR are the first countries to recognize Israel
a homosexual takes time from dilating his front hole to whine about how the private-property promoting Third Reich was actually just the same as Marxism
gets utterly BTFO
starts posting jew interracial porn and jumps on Tor
You can't make this shit up.

Nicholas Ross
Nicholas Ross

Might want to add, Hitler would never have risen to such prominence if he didn't at least acknowledge the aristocracy of Germany, all of Hitlers campaigning and National Socialism promotion needed capital to start with. His idea though wasn't to abolish them altogether but rather replace them with a more Nationally devoted upper class who had stronger ties to the German people. His ideas weren't any different then anyone else's in History, he just happened to be EXTREMELY good at implementing them in such a short amount of time

Thomas Turner
Thomas Turner

to any National Socialist who truly understands the philosophy.

Philosophy within National Socialism is like philosophy in a dirty commie's gulag. No philosophy inside!

Jose Adams
Jose Adams

You are pathetic.

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Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

Who cares.
Both mussolini and hitler are good.
National socialism is about struggle and truth.

Ethan Bailey
Ethan Bailey

(((You)))

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

there can be nationalist capitalism as an alternative to national socialism and civic nationalism

Jordan Fisher
Jordan Fisher

National (((Capitalism))) is an oxymoron. Profit margins and the (((Capitalist Class))) faggots both demand open borders. The term is just as illegitimate and kiked as National (((Bolshevism)))

Jacob Green
Jacob Green

Define socialism as well as extent and aspects thereof you are advocating. We all agree on nationalism, but we need to break the abstraction down of what you want in terms of socialism.

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Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

Hello boomer what about you lurk 2 moar years before posting shit that makes you look like a retard and a newfag.

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

See
zigforums.com/thread/12047938/politics

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

See

Adam Sullivan
Adam Sullivan

You remind me of idiots in Russia that still want to go back in time and dream about ideal commie world that will be a paradise for the proletariat. Their arguments are exactly like yours, by the way. They don't care that communism won't work in the real world, and don't want to consider anything except their ideal and how to enforce it on everyone.

So go ahead, talk about cucked nationalists and about the Aryan race deserving the whole world instead of their own lands and make the whole world your enemy again, so instead of removing the invaders you will have to worry about fighting slavs, chinks, and everyone else. And you're not in the 20th century anymore, the normies of the world may be blind to the islamic virus, because the muzzies have managed to exploit the freedom of religion bug successfully, but they sure as hell are immune and will notice if you bring out Aryan vs Untermenschen thing into the open, and thus no one will wait for you to gain power so you can make them slaves and take their lands for your Aryan race.

Lucas Ortiz
Lucas Ortiz

Ask Hitler.

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Connor Hernandez
Connor Hernandez

Operating from this standpoint, as Hitler did, one's own race – in this case the Aryan race – is the center-point of one's worldview and concerns.
This is already what the "Right" wing of the ZOG believes, because they see Ashkenazi (Euro) Jews as being part of their race, and they don't even believe in Nations.
Nation ≠ Race. Anyone trying to tell you that it does is trying to make you believe the Kikes in Israel are part of your race. Europeans belong to many different Nations, and the White Nation, the largest of the European Nations, is the English-speaking European Nation, composed of the English-speaking Europeans in "America," "Canada," the UK, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc. We are all one Nation. And we're not French, Germans, Italians, Russians, or Spaniards. They belong to different Nations.
I repeat, anyone trying to tell you Nation = Race is trying to get to you identify with Ashkenazi (European) Jewery. They're the same people who say Ashkenazi Jews have 115 IQs, and rightly rule over the masses of the White Nation. They're the same people who will tell you Israel is a beacon of democracy and an outpost of something called "Western" "civilization." They're the "Right" wing of the ZOG.

Jacob Barnes
Jacob Barnes

Speak a bit more clearly.

Thomas Hernandez
Thomas Hernandez

What did Hitler accomplish? He left Germany in ruins, the people's psyche permanently broken and cucked.

What did economic nationalism accomplish? Every single developed economy in the world.

Carson Edwards
Carson Edwards

aristocracy, class and natural authority
Outside of a meritocracy as Plato described in the Republic, this is a recipe for corruption and decay. By its nature, hereditary privilege is not the optimal distribution of power within a society because you're not giving power to the most able, you're giving it to their distant descendants, long after regression to the mean has rendered any genetic IQ advantages to be meaningless.

Alexander Myers
Alexander Myers

what did hitler accomplish
Freeing his people for 12 years and getting out of poverty.
he left them in ruins.
You mean the people who declared war against him and destroying his shit?
when did nationalizing economic benefit
People who don't want to ne slaves but get killed or declared war for it quit drinking the (((ally))) cool aid (((torpedo)))

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

A nation is not a country. It is a closed gene pool consisting of people from a common ancestry. Like a scaled up tribe, or family.
Walking into a nation's territory doesn't magically make you part of it's people, especially if you remain a separate gene pool. Only ancestry and blood can.

Nathaniel Allen
Nathaniel Allen

what did hitler accomplish
Also bringing back the spirit of the people nationalizing the banks and banning usury and get war declared because of it.

Grayson Jackson
Grayson Jackson

yet another dividing tactic
yet more purity spiraling
<if you don't genocide the entire planet in the name of "nationalism" you're a cuck

Luis Howard
Luis Howard

economic nationalism accomplish develop-
No countries have that right now except syria iran and north korea
Lurk moar before posting because what you posted is retarded.

Joseph Russell
Joseph Russell

Also
blaming them instead of the (((allies))) or jews.

Noah Turner
Noah Turner

For the benefit of those that havent got their heads around National Socialist fundamentals, see pics related.

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James Morgan
James Morgan

No one is falling (((torpedo))) spamming this in multiple threads won't also change this.

Owen Harris
Owen Harris

Freeing his people for 12 years and getting out of poverty.
He didn't free his people. He had turbo jews like Max Warburg on the board of the reichsbank. That's a (((propaganda myth))). He got millions of Germans killed in the war, slaughtered white people and Christians, and never attacked the center of the international Jew in London.

Luke Martinez
Luke Martinez

Germany is gone because our grandfathers fought a war and killed it not because of a problem of national socialism

Nicholas Hill
Nicholas Hill

muh torpedo
You are NSA and you have no argument.

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

he killed and slaughtered people.
No he didn't you retarded fuck that was (((churchill))) and any government owned by jews did that not hitler he tried avoiding.
but the christains!
They were christains who were fighting him.
but did not attack the international jew in britain
He had no way of getting there.
Also germans surnames till jews stole them to shapeshift in america.

Jordan Ramirez
Jordan Ramirez

watch nazi economics on youtube by CT

Jack James
Jack James

*fighting for him.

Bentley Barnes
Bentley Barnes

He nationalized the banks that was well documented and the ones who opposed him admit it that was his greatest crime.

Thomas Williams
Thomas Williams

y you have no argument your nsa
You spread disinformation and retarded arguments that's already been argued.

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

Take your ally propaganda and shove it.

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Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

Hitler put millions of Poles and Russians in camps with the Jews where they starved to death, you fucking white genocide denier.

Jordan Scott
Jordan Scott

starve to death
Blame the (((allies))) for bombing the supply lines retard.
Lurk moar.
Also
jews
white

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

Also look up the russians who fought for hitler to try to overthrow stalin.

Lucas Martin
Lucas Martin

And ignore the censorship done under both of them.

Anthony Torres
Anthony Torres

Families can fall in and out of the aristocracy (they did) but you need the title to be heridtary for long term breeding. People need to be bred into their class ei farmers bred for farming, craftsmen bred for crafting, aristocrats bred for administration. You need to know your role when your born and you need to be forced into it. This is how you get a coherent society.
allied war propaganda
kys.

Evan Campbell
Evan Campbell

What the fuck it replied to the wrong one

Christopher Sanders
Christopher Sanders

Heil

James Taylor
James Taylor

Right on schedule

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Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

Why is this jew trash still up?

Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith

Universalizing nationalism is the belief that all peoples should have a state and a claim to existence on this Earth.
I believe that except I only care about White people having a state.
I believe that all European Peoples should have their own nation-state.
We should not have a single giant multi-ethnic state for all White people. That's ridiculous and would only work in America.

Nathan Myers
Nathan Myers

be White
make money
share house with friends who are similar to you politically
save up money
put said money to political acts that actually work
bring more Whites similar to you in the area and have them do the same
get even more money
Whites around Europe and America catch on and copy
bypasses leftist globalist government and is completely legal
higher chance of finding decent work through shared information between Whites
more money from sharing and splitting the bills and food
literally Nation building but on a housing scale

Why haven't we been doing this shit already? This is National Socialism but on a housing scale.

Christian Brooks
Christian Brooks

wordism

Luke Green
Luke Green

A nation is not a country
"Americans" don't know the difference between the word Nation and country, because they have been conditioned not to understand it. "America" was founded on anti-nationalism, because "America" was created by splitting the English-speaking European Nation. "America" is a country, but not a Nation.
It is a closed gene pool consisting of people from a common ancestry.
This ZOG-faggot just defined all humans on the planet as belonging to the same Nation. I'm sure they actually consciously did this, in order to signal to people "Look how dumb Zig Forums is, they don't even realize I'm saying half-breed nigger mongrels were produced from a "open" gene pool!"
Here is a clue, for Anons who don't know. Two different languages = two different Nations, and Nations don't cross the racial barrier.

Aaron Ross
Aaron Ross

Not surprised.

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

Remember when you got banned a minute ago? I do. ;D

Connor Clark
Connor Clark

too many reports filed
XD

This is how you know the mods are in on it man. Tip top kek.

Chase Garcia
Chase Garcia

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Luke King
Luke King

Been seeing this torpedo everywhere

Wyatt Bell
Wyatt Bell

Hitler had no intention of conquering the entire Earth and exterminating all other peoples. The Reich did more to liberate oppressed peoples than any other country in history, sheerly on dint of its actions against Jewish Capitalism and British Imperialism. Merely by helping to liberate India, they de-facto freed a quarter of the human fucking race, who WEREN'T EVEN GERMAN.

Your ideas are ridiculous and contrary to the stated beliefs of National Socialism.

Jonathan Cruz
Jonathan Cruz

So let me get this right, if some Untermenschen decided to betray his own people and fight for the enemy so he could eat better and not die in a concentration camp, or maybe he was a good life after the war for him personally, that suddenly means Hitler didn't plan to do a genocide of slavs to free the space he needed for the Aryan race? Are you really going to deny the concept of Lebensraum here like some fucking muslim who talks about how moderate and enlightened he is?

I guess the next thing you are going to tell me is that because some leftist whites like NZ PM are happy to wear a hijab, or because especially deluded white people actually convert to Islam, that Islam is not that bad and we should all convert? Have you lost your fucking mind?

Adrian Parker
Adrian Parker

banned? No. Still here, lad. Even made a thread earlier lol

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Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

welcomoe back brother

Michael Barnes
Michael Barnes

No argument? The supply lines were bombed that is fact and hitler having no interests on exterminating others that is fact you just need to lurk moar.

Christopher Young
Christopher Young

shit thread is still up

Brody Nguyen
Brody Nguyen

Bump…
Nothing personal buddy

Alexander Cruz
Alexander Cruz

ANother bump to rile up your jimmies

Connor Davis
Connor Davis

Based.

Dominic Jackson
Dominic Jackson

You are forgetting some natsoc has the same views you do while others think something different.

Luke Cooper
Luke Cooper

not being an absolute monarchist

Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards

Implying that will work now.

Chase Murphy
Chase Murphy

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Jackson Brown
Jackson Brown

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Blake Price
Blake Price

tor still isn't banned
kek

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Easton James
Easton James

tor still isn't banned
Yeah, you are right, maybe you should try a board where tor IS banned, like /leftypol/, /christian/, or /pedo/, they are all bastions of freespeech and totally not echo chambers!

Zachary Watson
Zachary Watson

DOn't see wrong with tor…
Despite torpedos being a bunch of jackasses for 80% of the time.

Charles Murphy
Charles Murphy

for bombing the supply lines retard.
Funny how this site shits on brits about the boer camps but the supply lines for the camps were disrupted too

Blake Hughes
Blake Hughes

There are more pedos at 8 chan than anywhere else.

Now kill yourself for supporting a pedo site.

Thomas Butler
Thomas Butler

Glow harder CIA nigger

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Leo Clark
Leo Clark

Glow what faggot. This site does have more pedos that even tor.

/delicious

is just one of many

Kayden Peterson
Kayden Peterson

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Joshua Scott
Joshua Scott

a==a==

Jayden Diaz
Jayden Diaz

a ==a==

Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

Gabriel Gonzalez
Gabriel Gonzalez

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

Robert Williams
Robert Williams

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

Anthony Roberts
Anthony Roberts

Op is a cuck.

Jackson Garcia
Jackson Garcia

What sort of nationalist are you if you advocate for blacks or, God forbid, even Jews having their own little chunk of the Earth?

Still a nationalist, that's for certain. Nothing wrong with having a tiny nigger island as long as you take all their guns and murder anyone who tries to build a boat.

Hitler states in Mein Kampf that National Socialism is "A philosophy of life which endeavors to reject the democratic mass idea and give this earth to the best people

That just mean we need to rule the Earth, not that we can't allow other races to exist in small numbers in subjugated states. I had hoped we could do it for the Jew but the amount of training it would take to prevent guards from being seduced by their lies would be too costly to be worth the benefit of having diversity. We should simply just preserve Jewish memes in historical archives and preserve Jewish DNA in test tubes.

Jayden James
Jayden James

Pretty good info.

Jeremiah Price
Jeremiah Price

tells user to go to /leftypol/ for defending Hitler to a torfag kike shitting up the board
My fucking sides you get paid waaay too much for this

Elijah Collins
Elijah Collins

Thanks for that

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