Dr E.Michael Jones : "I agree that "Arbeit Macht Frei"

He was known to the right wing before Peterson was memed.

Peterson is a self help fraud whose purpose is to keep young men from the right and he never mentions the JQ. Jones is the polar opposite. You're a moron.

Go back to your containment board.

The method of debating this curly haired guy uses is fucking retarded and transparent.

Fucking lol. Everyone should listen to 43:40 - 45:40

lol

He took my words to heart. Arbeit Macht Frei!

Curly Hair says some even more ridiculous shit after that. He basically said the rise of civilization is through their loans. You have to be a special sort of retard to think that.

Loans don't set you free - work will set you free. Work makes you free.

He's shilled right after Petersein starts to get disfavored, hmmm.

He actually names the Jews, instead of protecting them and telling goyim that they are jealous of Jewish People and their superior "IQs".

u r a retard

Where were you when 'logos' became a killing word?
Like a cross to a vampire, one simply has to say it and you will see the forces of chaos and degeneracy recoil in horror. European civ was built on this concept and all its enemies can't help but reveal themselves when they try attack it.

An interesting watch. Certainly shows an interesting divide in Catholic and Protestant understanding, and his assertions about the Protestant work ethic AKA the Germanic work ethic that they came from the minds of Italian Catholics seems somewhat historically illiterate considering the pre-Roman Germanics were known for this same vigour. From the Protestant / Germanic perspective this would also completely debunk everything said about usury and it being 'beneficial to the rise of nations'; it was clearly the ability of the worker that contributed to the insane rise of Britain, Germany and America that left the rest of the world behind. Quite a few other things niggled at me with his odd interpretations regarding the 'chosen' and a seeming lack of knowledge concerning Scripture which would have shut that jews mouth instantly; but still, overall interesting. A good watch. Certainly better than Peterstein.

I'm honestly just a bit surprised how alien the Catholic perspective is to my own.

I find EMJ very interesting, but he shills HARD for the current pope, which is a terrible libtard and is destroying everything the church stands by.
I'm Catholic btw.

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You can write him a youtube comment under the video, he will most likely respond to it if your message is well written and respectful.

I just thunk that EMJ's position is not to criticize the position of papacy and not try to divide inside the Church. He already has criticized certain things that previous pope said, I just think that he doesn't want to protest the pope but he doesn't mean that he actually like this particular pope.

Pretty much. There is a very big gap now, as there are all of the Christians who are aware of certain issues, but they have a major problem in not having a single public figure to point to. Pastor Anderson was pushed here quite hard, until people discovered the videos of him marrying black males to white females.

But at least Anderson is a Protestant, which allows him his independence. I don't understand how you can be a Catholic and push doctrine that the Catholic church would excommunicate you over.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infallibility_of_the_Church

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It feels intelectually dishonest to me.
He tackles alot of subjects head on but then shies away from the pope.

I see your point tho

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I want to go on record as a Pagan and say that I hold E. Michael Jones in the highest esteem, and Libido Dominandi tangibly changed my life for the better.
You on the other hand, strike me as someone who measures the amount of dicks they suck by the mile.

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oof

I hate Anderson and Christianity in general, I was pointing out the doctrinal problems of being a Catholic while having views that are diametrically opposed to those held by the Catholic church.

Learn to read.

I can't talk in his name…Ask him the question and he might answer it but since he's a traditional catholic, I assume that he holds the position of the pope as sacred.

Nice sperg-out, mouthbreather

If you name the jew and do not believe in their superiority, you're one of us.

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Liberating, empowering commentary!

Kill yourself, airstealer

He sure is.

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BASED jew worshipping eceleb!

He is right, being white is an empty shell identity. You are "white" because you are not "black". This is the tragedy of the USA. We still can protect native ethnicity in Europe but the Jews are trying to destroy it in the same way than the USA with mass 3rd world immigration and intra-european immigration.

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Other examples of the same tactic:
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Shills really are active today.

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Shut the fuck up kike

Being White is not an empty shell identity. Jones is wrong about this. Historically it's correct to say that Europeans pre-melting-pot in the United States identified as Germans, Italians, etc. and even segregated along those lines to some extent. However to say that the category of Whiteness itself is empty simply ignores the reality that prior to the United States, the Irish (of which Jones loves to state his stock is of) were also considered 'other' than White. White is not skin color. White is spirit, and blood, and Logos, and you can identify it as easily as hearing someone speak and by the truth of their words, whether they're of your race or not. The founding fathers knew this. White people know this.

Jones is a treasure for finding great factual information on Jews, but his conclusions are usually bad. He makes absurd arguments like saying that Jews are White and that we need to convert them to Christ despite the fact that Jones has written extensively on how disastrous Jewish converts have been in White Christian societies .

He also decries racialism and Adolf Hitler as morally corrupt men who worshipped at the altar of their own flesh and blood.

Dr. Jones is bi-racial, German and Irish. And saying that "White" is a spirit and Logos is wrong, I don't know where you get this idea. Logos is superior to one's race or skin color and it is the Order of the Universe. And yes, it is an empty shell identity, because you identity as an animal breed exclusively based on your genetics instead of identifying yourself based on your real human ethnicity which is your language, your nation, your culture , your history, ect. Furthermore, telling past French men and German men that they were "white", of the same "white race", they would laugh in your face and though that you were crazy and rightfully so.
This vision of race for humans is very recent and extremely destructive and the Jews push it tenfold, flooding 3rd world immigrants by force and putting black skinned people in every movie and Ads so that you start identifying as an opposition to these aliens people by telling yourself that you are "white", thus self-labeling as an animal and losing your real identity.

That's worse to them.
If you criticize them, however objective it is; they will cry antisemitism.
Threadly reminder: jews aren't semites.

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Nobody is ever going to be perfect, utilize the good, and throw away the bad. I do the same with Anderson.

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is just good solid German advice.

Work might not make you rich, but it makes you "free" in that you will always be in demand and always have options.

Consider the case of Professor of Electrical Engineering and Holohoax Debunker Arthur Butz.

As an accomplished EE who specializes in an even more sought after niche of EE, he could walk into any electronics firm in the world and have a $100,000 hiring bonus check in 30mins or less.

Contrast that with your typical History Prof at same university. The ONLY reason the History Prof has a job is decades of ass kissing and political games, and mostly nepotism. His "job" doesn't exist anywhere else, and he'd be working at Starbucks.

Of course, getting a PhD in EE is real work.

LOGOS…. something something, they have no LOGOS

oh noooooo

I've read all of Jones' work and watched all his videos so I can easily identify all of his easy talking points which you've just parroted back at me without addressing anything I said. If Logos is superior to race, it must be expressed universally (which Jones and other religious figures misconstrue as a separate God-like form), but you can easily disprove this by pointing out any of the myriad (distinctly un-European) races which have language, culture, histories, perhaps even nations, but no Logos. Nor will they ever have it, because Europeans have defined Logos in our blood. Jones, and others like him assume from a biased view that merely adopting Christianity grants one the gift of Logos. Laughable.

Again the historical argument regarding race can easily be disregarded. If Jones were to meet one of his German ancestors, I doubt he'd be trying to explain to them that they were mere men chasing pigs through the forest. It's reductionist garbage from a religious standpoint, no one has Logos until some monks have built a temple on a river nearby and taught you how to work, as though the Germanic peoples of the past were rotting away with atrophied muscles before then. The White race is a collective, it's a genetic phenotype, it's Logos, which you can identify throughout history in the strain of the language and culture. Go back far enough in time and I bet you'd have an easier time of trying to convince a French of German man in the past that he's White than convincing him that he's a Christian.

It's true, the man is a national treasure. On buying his books now before they are banned.
He covers alot of the intricacies of history that are rarely mentioned.

This user gets it.
Culture and language. Your language and the words initially shape how you think about concepts and things.
When the tower of Babel was destroyed, God separated man by language, not race.
Noah had sons of different colors.

God has chosen the method of separation that is language. I still believe that miscegenation is sinful, but race as we see it today is a Jewish tactic that is used to cause infighting in order to draw attention away from their devilry.

From what I see, you seem to place the "White Race" in a some kind of "Chosen People" superior race and thus trying to think like a Jew.
Logos isn't your race or your DNA. Logos is rationality, Logos starts with speech and it's not bound to race.
You say that Europeans have defined Logos in their blood, just like hoe Europeans have defined Christianity in their blood then. Sorry but this doesn't hold together. Logos and Christianity are universal and it concerns the order of the universe, and not order of a "chosen race" or of a "superior race".
Yes, Europeans have had the best interpretation of Logos but this doesn't mean that the Logos is in our blood exclusively, this is plain arrogant from mere mortals like us. This is the mistake that the Jews made by thinking that they were to subjugate the Logos Incarnate, Jesus-Christ, to their will, to their blood because they had the sacred sperm of Abraham.

And yet you claim Logos as your God and anyone who worships another God is wrong. This is ridiculous. Only one people in the history of the world defined and expressed Logos, and then the Bible used it to describe God and now you think you can give the gift of my people away to anyone who worships the same way you do?

I'll flat out state it, from every angle and without any hesitation, Logos in all its forms is exclusive to the White man. Nowhere in the Old Testament does God refer to himself as Logos, or anything approaching such a concept. It's a New Testament concept, and a brilliant one, but nevertheless one co-opted in form and spirit. The truth is that Christianity only has worth in Europe insofar as it has brought the concept of Logos from the Greeks to the modern day in the form of Jesus Christ. But the Church claims that a pygmy who worships Jesus Christ without knowing what Logos is somehow knows the face of God. That's why the church is failing, and I salute Jones for trying to bring Logos back, I truly do. But Jesus Christ is a vehicle for Logos, not the other way around. Understand that and then you'll know who the true Christians are throughout history and in modern times.

I do not know much about his "pope shilling" I remember him talking about Francis and I disagreed completely.

Here;s why I do not trust the guy:
He seems like a honest traditional catholic at first. Then he defends the foundations of America, making catholicism an "identity". Look the religious identity over ethnic is problematic. I would argue you need both: ethnic and religious homogenity. In one interview I remember him saying he would give his daughter to black if he were catholic. Well I will leave the problematic and often contradicting views of race.

Here;s where he lost me: Absolute dishonesty about german reich and fascism. In "libido dominandi" he reduces the rise of Hitler to Hirschfeld being a jew and Hitler taking advantage. He does not talk about imminent danger of communism, let alone jews being the cause of the communism. He also talks a lot about WASP supporting porn industry, but does not mention jews as the prime force owning it.
All his "sources" on fascism in that book: Pink swastika (A book that was inspired by a book from 1946 by a literal jew) - the book that says that NSDAP were basically sodomites. EMJ explores this rise as a "form of political control" similar to communism etc. Another source: Wilhelm reich, the mass psychology of Fascism.
So explain to me: Why are his sources jews if he is jew-wise? Moreover if you read the chapters about germany they are completely dishonest to the point that even if I was not redpilled I would doubt the stuff I read there. Like…germans did not elect hitler because just "hirschfeld". So seriously fuck this.

In other interview he was explicitly asked about Falange/Rexism/Iron guard. All he said was that "yeah capitalism has its problems there were many critics" then he bypasses the question and starts bitching about "da 3rd reich bein a pagan revival nigga".
I mean seriously…fuck this dishonesty. He knows a thing about history, probably more than me. He CAN ANSWER a question about fascism honestly. The truth is he probably does not want to do it, instead quotes jews.

Now tell me why would an honest guy do such a thing?Furthermore why would he obviously avoid the catholic fascists as a plague. His rhetoric style is very similar to jewish style when it comes to such questions. Do not believe me? then ask him in live stream yourself.

tl dr. I do not trust the guy. I was on the verge before reading libido dominandi. Now after reading through the whole book I think he is a plant, similar to Jordan Peterson.

if by "your", you mean "our" God then I agree. It's not my exclusive God, it's not the exclusive God of my "European Race". God is God, the universal one who created everything, it has nothing to do with race but it has to do with faith and reason, and that's what you need to believe in Jesus-Christ, it's faith and not race (this is the old covenant with the Jews)

What are you talking about ? Logos is a very important word of Greek philosophy, far before the existence of Jesus-Christ. It was borrowed and baptized with the New Testament (which was originally written in Greek) when it says that "In the beginning was Logos, the Logos was with God and the Logos is God".

Obligatory.

Checkin that truth

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That being said his theologic points can be enlightening. I do not completely discard the guy but I think he is being dishonest on purpose so I am on my guard

And here we see yet more proof kikestians are anti-white.

Jesus Christ as the Logos is the exclusive God of Europe. That's my stance and I've explained it already. Only our people throughout history have known the face of God. The church believes that a pygmy can say the sacraments without knowing what Logos is and be saved. If you believe that's correct, you don't worship Logos.

I see nothing wrong or contradictory with what either of us have said here. The Greeks defined and expressed Logos and that definition is the definition of God. Europe's God. Not anyone else's, until I can be shown proof that any other race understands Logos, which I've yet to see.

I'll end the discussion here by saying that I'm looking forward to Jones' book on Logos to see if I am wrong.

Why should I care about your monthly new e-celeb?

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Well, we know you are.

Europe has had the best and most advanced interpretation of Logos and interpretation is the key word here. It doesn't mean that they are the exclusive Logos. You eem to want to approriate God for the continent and for the people of the continent when it's obviously false. You want to turn God into some kind of animism Pagan God exclusive to some people. That isn't the way it works. Yes, the Logos and the understanding of Logos has evolved a lot more in Europe than in other places but it doesn't mean that this absolute objective and universal truth becomes exclusive.

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You shills are so fucking transparent it's not even funny.

What is being shilled? EMJ isn't new, but you are. Pretty simple, no?

Shill your jewtube shit elsewhere kike.

Good post and agreed, but Jones is not a plant, user. He serves the jew in zero capacity, and is often censored. Most likely answer is 100% honesty is incredibly rare, and he's a Boomer Catholic with an ax to grind against a force, natsoc, he sees as another enemy of catholicism (I think table talks are legit and it was pretty obvious the Germans wanted to usurp Christianity long term).

Because work makes you free is a true statement. I was a lazy apathetic nihilist fat wigger before I joined the army and worked my ass like a $5 slave. As much as I hated it I loved it. The feeling of having a purpose in life and doing something constructive along with the comradery is still the best moments of my life and probably always will be unless things get unfucked in my life time.

Give people something to work for and they'll love it even when they complain.

Neither is Nick, but every month or so, there's another thread that boils down to "check out this youtuber", and this one is no different.

He's not natsoc, and he's not an ally. He's a kikestian jew worshipping boomer that's being shilled here just like nick the spic, commonfilth, and jordan peterstein before him.

user, it's not God, not logos, if it doesn't transcend all physical manifestation. True answer is Europeans have the most evolved form on this planet to be vessels for truth, and all the nigger people are far behind and the thought that making them Christians helps that is infantile. But nobody can have a monopoly on God.

I came here just to tell you what a huge faggot you are. Genetics is real. The Germanic and Celtic people are the same (mixed Paleo- and Indo-european). The more south you go the more Indo-european, the more north you go the more Paleo-european. Languages formed because of isolation caused by tribalism, the normal state of human nature.

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Also.
It's Godin, he has no relation to you filthy jews, and you really need to stop appropriating my culture like a negger.

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Well he's right. Work will make you free.

Can I get trips?

'White' is just a more encompassing term for modern day Christendom, or the new incarnation of Rome. Broadly speaking it encompasses all of 'Europe', though those on the fringes who are white and may even be Christian such as those inhabiting countries like Egypt, Syria, Morocco or Turkey are not a part of it. The colonial descendants of 'Christendom', or the new version of Rome are of course also 'white', and remain a part of it despite dwelling outside the borders of Europe. It encompasses a broad racial group as well as a cultural background which has its philosophical roots in Greece and Rome. It might even be argued that your modern day German or Briton has more in common with Romans from 2,000 years ago than their own blood, as their identity today (or at least in recent centuries) borrows more from that arguably alien heritage than from their own blood ancestors; although of course the spirit of their people and their blood remains strong and has influenced the 'alien Roman' foundations, changing it to be something that values the Germanic ideals of vigour, hard-work, individualism, and purity. These Germanic ideas would give a new shape to the Helleno-Roman foundations, resulting in many things vastly different to their Roman counterparts; notably the religion of Protestantism, ideas like Common Law, and a more entrepreneurial spirit which spawned the 'middle class' which has become so synonymous with the rise of Germanic America.

That is what 'white' means. It is a very real group that is hard to condense into a single word. It does not include all Christians, it does not include all people with fair skin, it does not include only those nations that were a part of the old Roman Empire. It no longer only encompasses the Men of the West, as colonies like New Zealand and Australia exist in the Far East. White is the simplest term for what I described in the previous paragraph, we all instinctively understand who it refers to and who it doesn't; and as such it is a real identity and a useful way of distinguish our broad group from any other.

IQ doesnt exist?

LOGOS was established in GREECE

Christianity co-opted it.

White is being of european descent

Simple

We have to reconceptualize white as european descent to deal with teh current political realities.

people like E Michael Jones havent caught up yet.

Kill yourself kike.
The terminology for european genetic phenotype has NOTHING to do with your kike desert religion.

Also, Michael Jones is confusing RACE for ETHNICITY

There was only one covenant. The one with the original White Hebrews.

Kikes aren't white and never were. Zig Forums needs to be banned sitewide just like /judaism/.

It's dumb white niggers like you that have doomed our whole race!

KIKES ARE NOT WHITE
Only kikes and kikestians like (((you))) would propose something like this.

I the Great Genius (formerly Yeshua ben Yosef) am 100% White! My Hebrew ancestors were 100% White!

You are a DUMB WHITE NIGGER!

As do jews. Except the goyim doing shitty work makes the jew free.

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EMJ released a new video.
Minority Rule: The Rise of Political Correctness
Minority Rule: The Rise of Political Correctness
From Freudian pseudo-psychology to Boasian pseudo-anthropology to the domination of the global "mainstream" media, this film documents the rise of "political correctness" and demonstrates how it is a manifestation of the Jewish "will to power."
This film features E. Michael Jones and Kevin MacDonald.

HEY BIG BEAR, READ MY SUPER CHAT

He's not perfect, but he makes good points and brings up an outside perspective on the turn of history.
We need to take the good points from people like Jones and leave what doesn't work.
If you keep waiting for a perfect man, you will always be disappointed. We should always call out the things that are anathema to our positions, but don't throw out the good with the bad.

I do not think he must be a plant necessarily. I disagree with table talks…but their legitimacy is rather doubious also….at least parts. Especially the anti-christian. I am not saying germany was "holy empire" far from that. But it was not a neo-pagan larp. And even taking germany aside and talking about other fascist movements….He was asked about them and his answer was a no no avoiding it with all his might.

I think his position is caused by: him being half german and half french, him focusing only on theology, him being an american who wants to believe in "just war" and he still believes in americanism. On the top of that he is a boomer.
7#But honestly…the Libido dominandi has 700 pages. The chapters on nsdap are rather short, written in slander-like manner, always refer ONLY to two basically jewed sources. All other fascist movements are avoided in order not to fall in contradiction.r

We should take the good and leave the bad. He has very valuable material on some things but not on fascism.d