what can we do to help Europe return to tradition?
my half-baked theory:
basically "show, don't tell". the real question for this is wether or not we can do it
thoughts?
also post good traditional music from your nation
we're gonna make it
/TRAD/ european traditionalist general
Nolan Nelson
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Aaron Perez
European ethnic clubs already exist all over North America. Find the one closest to your heritage, join it, fund it, populate it, nurture it.
Juan Morales
job done
Matthew Wood
good meme, why tho'?
Matthew Phillips
ill-adaption to new technologies (particulary guns) is what ruined the traditional social order of Europe built up over thousands of years. Same thing happened in Japan (see the Last Samurai). An army of serfs with muskets (funded by some banker) became more effective than a warrior class. From there, everything starts breaking down as the nobility/aristocracy is now useless, not serving their function. The mannerbund, is no longer master of its realm and men are now subservient to machines.
If we can't restore that balance, we'll never have an organic human society.
Aaron Martinez
Which European country's culture will mixed European whites be adopting in your idea?
Jason Clark
How will we defend ourselves though?
Cool idea, OP. I've heard it before but if we can actually get this going IRL, I will move to this town.
Robert Diaz
i guess it should be patriarchical
i see. this would be great, but how could it be enforced?
Lucas Wood
Zig Forumsacks I'd like to give you some personal insight.
About ten years ago I visited the place my parents were from in Euroland and something in me made me cry. I felt like I was home. Till that point in time I felt like I was in the wrong spot on the other side of the planet. I was resolute in those few moments, looking out from atop hill on tree lined road overlooking the valley undulating bellow and mountains spurring to the heavens in the distance that this is where I want to die. I have found home. In one of these mountains I found a clearing where people of the villages below maintained the graves of those that had fallen in battle about 400 years ago. I was lucky to see a family (a father and two young boys) carving a fresh wooden pole to replace a heavily weathered one. They knew who died on that field… it was a one of their blood that died 400 years ago there. It's difficult to describe the impact and meaning that had to me and I think you should all think carefully about the use of wood as a monument to the dead – it requires constant renewing.
Every year I would go back and explore more and every year that passed I became more frustrated with not actually being there all the time. I was torn. I could stay in a developed Western country and 'make lots of money' or I could live 'poor' and experience the a life that spoke to me on a deep and meaningful level. Over the years I developed more friends there than I could at home. It's hard to explain the feeling and reason without giving examples and running this post to tens of pages.
Ten years have passed and I've saved up enough money to buy or build a house that will be comfortable and I'm finally making the move. I really have no idea what I am going to do there or where I am going to live even. Practically nothing is organised for me. And, I face a bureaucracy there that is indifferent to my desire to want to be there and add to the life there and the economy. The youngsters are mostly moving away to the West because they think what they have is backwards and they are poor and have no money. In some ways there is a fracture where I am going. I hope I'm not going to fall into the abyss.
What I want to mention to you Zig Forumsacks is that you will get enough support from friends you make there and you may not need expats in your life, but you will find expats, they are there and they do have little groups in the most unexpected places. If you are married of get married there remember that you are the man and you are the head of the house. Don't ever waver in your determination and prove yourself and give opportunity to your wife to be a mother (it is the best place grow children). You will find work or if not make sure you have a trade and make something and with that something that you can employee others. Europe is suffering a shortage (like everywhere) of can do people. Be a can do person. Be a craftsman of any description and use technology to your advantage. You don't generally need a lot of capital to start a business there and if you are in the East you can go from a backyard business to a 100 employee business in 10 years (I've seen this happen to three business I know well). I've also seen failures. Don't fail! From what I can see you have the opportunity to express your imagination into reality in ways that are difficult to even imagine possible in the West – when you see it you will know what I am talking about. Involve yourself with the community! People will think you are weird if you don't – don't be weird!
The most important thing for you, from what I've gathered and gathered from talking with many people that have made the move: just live and sort yourself out and learn the language as best you can… but in saying that so many people speak English there isn't no so bad for at least the first year. Don't jump in anything that seems to good to be true or use all/most your money buying a house when you get there. I'd recommend you have about $100,000USD if you decide to go there. You can go with less but it's nice to have that amount of money there and you'll know why when it happens. Don't invest in anything you do not know about or are not in direct control of… this is why it's good to be able to setup your own micro-business making things or providing a service you are exceptional at.
Finally, Europe (and more specifically the East) is not the USA with more 'traditionalism.' They are different worlds.
Noah Reed
based Hussarbro
any suggestions on what platfrom we should organize on?