Accelerationism vs Honor

Jonathan Reyes
Jonathan Reyes

I'd like to gain some other perspectives as to why those who advocate for accelerationism do so. Because from my current perspective, it's the stance of those who haven't been paying attention to either/and/or the easily distracted & complacent nature of our species/the level of general "not give a fuck" damn near ubiquitous amongst us right now.

Unless the accelerationism is ultimately to lead to a general atmosphere for a major trigger point that would cause Chimpamania on a very wide scale by a shutdown of bread & circus then all you're accomplishing is getting them all used to a new norm of general background noise that doesn't ultimately ever affect the vast majority enough at once to make them give a shit, and the bar for tolerance of it gets higher & higher & higher.

The OTHER layer I see with this, is how do you accomplish accelerationism on the scale required to not only match but defeat the eternal, mythological merchant; without becoming exactly what they are but from a different perspective? How do you get that genie back in the bottle? Do we climb in the ovens afterward? Do we backflip into Mt Doom with the ring?
We know our fucking nature, how can we guarantee whatever evolves out of its replacement, if built on the same methodologies, doesn't just somehow become as

Is it more important to keep honor with the way we want things to be, to fight and win with? The beginnings of this were all honesty & truth, and that's what turned the tide at all to begfin with. We have FAR more of that. This CAN be won that way.

Thoughts?

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Julian Miller
Julian Miller

I think you're fucking stupid. Did you get the text from a random text generator?

Zachary Hernandez
Zachary Hernandez

I think I'm fucking stupid too. But the curse of the stupid is in the inability to see their own stupidity.
Please enlighten me.

Parker Nguyen
Parker Nguyen

Elections are rigged. The only "political solution" is using that knowledge to our benefit by electing the people (((they))) don't want elected. Accelerationism isn't Muslim-tier violence but chess played at the highest intellectual level.

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Jacob Wood
Jacob Wood


Allright Satan. You destroyed a thread. Hurray, another day well spend.

Andrew Myers
Andrew Myers

Agreed, I know it's all kayfabe. Not advocating against creative ways of getting there, necessarily. Just wondering how far into the proverbial "we the jews now" we can get for how long before it's irreversible & the goal it's being maintained for is no longer whatever objective rights or wrongs it was about, having been whittled down to just maintaining power.

Jackson Wright
Jackson Wright

Then you should've been bumping that one instead of bitching about mine. Threads die.

Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

As a non American;
it is illegal to speak about the problem
it is illegal to form groups that peacefully assemble
it is illegal to form political parties
it is illegal to publicly demonstrate
it is illegal to privately discuss
the police refuse to protect you or your neighbours
it is illegal to defend yourself, your family, and your property
I mean at that point is there really any other option than violence?

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Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed

People have been bribed by hedonism and self indulgence. Only when people encounter crisis directly and this affects their personal lives will they seek out reasons for their misfortune and find the courage to fight back. The accelerationism will not have any affect so long as people are still focused only on their own pleasure seeking lives, and are indifferent to their culture being raped.

Logan Williams
Logan Williams

Is it more important to keep honor with the way we want things to be, to fight and win with?
What honor did the Brits show the Germans after Dunkirk?
What about the Americans?
Honor matters only after you've won.

Wyatt Hill
Wyatt Hill

Do we climb in the ovens afterward? Do we backflip into Mt Doom with the ring?
Yes, Satan, some of us do…we live and were brought into the world for the sole purpose of defense and protection of our people. ==WE DID NOT COME HERE TO SERVE OURSELVES, BUT TO SERVE OUR PEOPLE.==
MOST OF US WERE NOT 'BORN HERE TO LIVE A LIFE OF DEGENERACY AND GLUTTONY'
WE WERE BORN DIFFERENT, THIS IS WHY WE ARE HERE ON Zig Forums; THIS IS WHY WE ARE HERE ON EARTH

THIS IS WHY WE HEAR WHEN OTHERS ARE DEAF; SEE WHEN OTHERS ARE BLIND; WE ACT WHEN OTHERS ARE INCAPABLE

Jackson Ross
Jackson Ross

honor
This is the argument of a person who doesn't care about race. I'd bite the neck out of my enemy, pull hair, and kick balls if it means survival.
There is no honor in being ruled over by kikes. Everything is permitted.
As for my thoughts on the rest of your word salad? Fuck off. You don't know what accelerationism is and are still hooked on getting lemmings into the streets. Learn before posting.

Jaxon Lee
Jaxon Lee

Dying without fighting back, which is what everyone has done so far.

Brandon King
Brandon King

That's not what I'm speaking on here. There was never any way ultimately but violence regardless, even if we didn't have an honestly laughable lack of numbers if you count all the little enclaves like this contain the vast majority of those who'd even be arsed to do tiny shit.

I'm speaking on the methodologies themselves used to get the required number of "ordinaries" in order to win on board, or push things towards a massive happening that'd shut down the distractions for enough normies to get shoved over the boiling point. At some point chaos just serves itself as endgoal.

Christopher Brooks
Christopher Brooks

What honor do you see left in the world? The whole fucking point of accelerationism is to burn a rotten, maggot infested corpse so that it might either be reborn as a phoenix or perish before it infects more of the universe. This is no longer about holding ourselves to a higher standard, as the last uninfected limb upon a gangrenous body. The only honor left is to do the unpleasant and unspeakable work that must be done to try to undo all that has been done.

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Xavier Turner
Xavier Turner

<muh honor
Lot of good that'll do you when you're fucking dead and so are all your brethren.
<a-at least we weren't called racists!

Jack Cooper
Jack Cooper

Would you resort to banking and media in order to ensure the survival of your race over their race? Would you stoop to their level in order to achieve survival? Or would that mean that you are just as bad as them and therefore have no more right to exist than they do?
What we all want is the survival of an honourable beautiful race, however it is ultimately up to the will of nature and the perenial law of 'might is right' as to which species will replicate their genes.

If you fight with honour and lose, there can exist a belief that you fought in a certain fashion which makes your ancestors proud and maybe this could benefit you in the next life. Or this could be superstition.

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

When life gives you lemons user…you better fucking innovate or die. Understand…you don't have a choice…also, FUCK THEM AND THEIR LAWS…they shouldn't mean SHIT TO YOU AT THIS POINT.

Gavin Gutierrez
Gavin Gutierrez

Shit getting into "well these previous generations totally got screwed, so fuck your entire current one" was the flipping point that started shoving me from center to right in the first place. The nigger & Jew & Jew puppeted SJW mentality.

This is the argument of a person who doesn't care about race
It's situational. I have no illusions it's going to ultimately come down to that & caring about it is no longer a choice & I know which side I'm on then like it or not.
But I don't buy into it being the ultimate universal measure of judgment on an individual basis. I'm fine with "assume until proven they're not".

Xavier Young
Xavier Young

The whole fucking point of accelerationism is to burn a rotten, maggot infested corpse so that it might either be reborn as a phoenix or perish before it infects more of the universe.
I both absolutely agree with and feel this. I was more speaking to the perspective of those who have preservation as a stated goal.

The universe absolutely does not deserve to have to deal with that bullshit, even if it's completely empty.

Chase Allen
Chase Allen

a-at least we weren't called racists!
Not even fucking part of this. I'm talking about using fucking jew psyops methodologies to get those we want still around afterwards on board without it biting what is trying to be built in the ass somehow.

I agree with the "fuck it all" perspective of nothing left better than something, but at this point the only thing there'd be nothing left of is the only ones really willing to do anything towards making it happen.

Jaxon Hernandez
Jaxon Hernandez

You're a complete lost pile of Kike Apologist Cuck Ferment Horseshit. Global Reported for Complete Nigger Shill submission

Nolan Baker
Nolan Baker

Unless the accelerationism is ultimately to lead to a general atmosphere for a major trigger point that would cause Chimpamania on a very wide scale by a shutdown of bread & circus then all you're accomplishing is getting them all used to a new norm of general background noise that doesn't ultimately ever affect the vast majority enough at once to make them give a shit, and the bar for tolerance of it gets higher & higher & higher.
That's the goal. #Yang2020

Josiah Roberts
Josiah Roberts

Personally I give fuck all about the laws, but aren't looking to give anyone an excuse to take me off the board unless it's ultimately worthwhile. I like running my mouth too much for it not to be tempting at times, and I'll take the justified faggot title for saying it.

Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

the level of general "not give a fuck" damn near ubiquitous amongst us right now
Perhaps this is being taken as meaning us, here, & that's the part being taken as a shilling.
I meant us as a species. We're practically Idiocracy level ffs (and I did say that for angry (You)s, feed me).

Xavier Flores
Xavier Flores

Okay, I read the OP and basically I think an ever increasing percentage (right now about .000001%) of people are going to start doing stuff from civil disobedience to demonstrations to straight up agitation/incitation. I think it will be both sides but imagine if shit happened every week, pretty soon there would be cops/national guard on every corner, and in a place like the US pretty soon movements like black lives matter would start shooting at those cops, and basically it falls apart from there. It only takes .0001% of the population and that is the really interesting part. Once cops are all over, especially in armed polarized areas like america, it will probably escalate pretty quickly.

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

Again, america is to an extent an exception because we have minorities with a "fuck the police" violent gang culture.

Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

That's retarded though, cause as NZ shows us, things will just get worse for right wingers/whites/etc and not anyone else. The blacks and Muslims and spice wont give a shit they inherited a shit hole world because it's what they're used to. Meanwhile the Jews and ZOGs will happily be left to control what's left. Whites are 11% of the global population and the best you can do if shoot up a mosque in NZ to retaliate for some Ebba girl half the world hasn't heard about.
You guys are fucked. No one to represent you the govt, no one to stand up for your ppl. The military and cops are on the side of the ZOG, accelerationism is a a losers game.
Then again if you're gonna lose anyway you might as well go out shooting. It just gonna make it worse for the remaining whites.
I want you guys to win, I hate the blacks Mexicans and Jews too but it just doesn't seem feasible!

Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

lets bound myself to honor rules while my enemy engage in combat without rules or any honor

Handicapping yourself?!
Are you retarded?

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Charles Anderson
Charles Anderson

somewhat related: where can I buy a cool skull mask

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Juan Clark
Juan Clark

A NEW GOLDEN AGE IS HERE TO STAY

Andrew Collins
Andrew Collins

you cant just put chaikas eyes on anyone and turn them into chaika, user.

Adrian Garcia
Adrian Garcia

Then again if you're gonna lose anyway you might as well go out shooting. It just gonna make it worse for the remaining whites.
I agree with this, as long as it is ultimately determined to be unwinnable long term regardless.
I want you guys to win, I hate the blacks Mexicans and Jews too but it just doesn't seem feasible!
It really isn't feasible right now, not with the numbers we have & both collective & individual "pull" of those numbers.

Brayden Robinson
Brayden Robinson

Honor is only applicable to those who abide by it. To show honor to those for whom the very concept is entirely alien, is foolish. Be even more honorable towards the honorable, and the worst kike towards the kikes (and those who feel that way). Only that way, the honor can survive as a concept.

Ryan Edwards
Ryan Edwards

But if we had enough of the right ones, ultimate winning out is plausible as long as those are truly with "us" and motivated.

Kevin Hill
Kevin Hill

posts gook pic
shit post

if you no longer have faith in voting you are an accelerationist

Chase Lewis
Chase Lewis

Be even more honorable towards the honorable
I sincerely believe those who actually grasp that honor is a thing that should exist or why are in the minority & not enough. If holding true to it isn't something woven into the fabric of what wakes the others you still need, then it'll most likely get lost entirely.

Caleb Howard
Caleb Howard

Another day, another anti-accelerate thread.

Liam Hill
Liam Hill

(((accelerationism))) means helping the enemy
accelerationism means fanning the flames

while sometimes similar, there is a distinct difference and most anons conflate the 2.

Luis Walker
Luis Walker

agree with this

Charles Gray
Charles Gray

are still hooked on getting lemmings into the streets
<this

And I second the notion. fuck honor.

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Austin Allen
Austin Allen

I get the perceived difference, I'm saying it won't work the way people imagine it will without some kind of catalyst to tip over the boiling point I don't see being within our control. I realize I may be entirely wrong about that & it's just shit opsec to even discuss an actually realistic way.

Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

The actually realistic way is illegal, lad.

Gabriel Hernandez
Gabriel Hernandez

it won't work the way people imagine it
depends on who youre listening to.

fanning the flames is creating further division between "us" and the enemy.
helping the enemy potentially puts whites in a worse position to help themselves or puts the enemy in a better position to suppress us.

for example exposing kikes being kikes to the mainstream is an example of accelerationism. helping kikes get into power so they can suppress us further (including our ability to expose them to the mainstream) is an example of (((accelerationism)))
both get shilled on this board nonstop. its up to us to tell the difference.

Charles Green
Charles Green

The rules of engagement in the fight about western civilization are long gone.
Now its pure total war.
Honor between opponents only and always is/was based on trust and existent on a individual level.
But you can't make the same agreement with a whole group or population.

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Gabriel Scott
Gabriel Scott

I've nothing against illegalities. But we lack co-ordination & overall direction. Visible leadership of some kind, the right one. Sure as shit ain't me, not even trying to say that. A true overall 64d plan accentuated by opportunism. Not waste guys like BT willing to kamikaze by them existing in a vacuum & well-meaningly coming up with the wrong way to do it.

Landon Ward
Landon Ward

LOL if we have a fucking leader we wouldn't be talking shit here.

Problem is we don't, and shills will destroy any guy's integrity as soon as they come up.

So it's better to just destroy shit, that way shills cannot character assassinate anyone.

Ryan Roberts
Ryan Roberts

Is it really the shill's fault? Who have been the "leaders" presented thus far? Jews and Bolsheviks. I mean can you name even one "leader" who isn't Jewish, a Bolshevik, or friendly to Israel? History shows us that real leaders come from a time of absolute despair and suffering. They're real people, affected by the world in a real way, and understand the People's struggle. There are no real leaders because the environment isn't proper to produce them.

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

whites vote, act, and think similarly enough in numbers where we dont really need a leader. we just need to make those similarities into fracture points between us and non-whites.

thats already the case. most whites dont support reparations, and even most of the liberal whites dont; they just dismiss it as a fringe ideology. whites also love nature and animals easy way to fracture us from literally every other race.

a leader is for accomplishing a goal. right now getting everyone on the same page is the goal. once we're there we can picka hitler. for now its just a matter of getting everyone on the same page.
and it wont be a conscious planned decision, it'll be an organic "right place at the right time" type of "decision"

Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

ANSWER MY QUESTION NIGGERS

Anthony Turner
Anthony Turner

It is really the shill's fault. If Hitler rises up today, shills would call him a zionist mossad gay trans agent.

Shills are paid here to stop people from organizing, and they do that job really well.

Nicholas Hernandez
Nicholas Hernandez

Your stupidity amazes me.
If you can’t honk then you will never honk

Aiden White
Aiden White

Anywhere you can buy outdoor shit and military surplus you dumb faggot.

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Andrew Robinson
Andrew Robinson

Hitler hasn't risen up today. Hitler came from Weimar conditions. He wasn't a trust-fund kid like Richard Spencer. Hitler wasn't a Zionist apologist like every eceleb ever. And Hitler wasn't a Bolshevik/Nazbol. He also wasn't some chad making 6 figures a year. Neither was he a polished actor. Hitler was one of the People. He was jobless, didn't even own a car, and spent the little money he did earn at the beer hall and opera. A new Hitler hasn't come because the environment isn't proper to such a rising.

Luke Price
Luke Price

I like beer and the opera.
I work in construction with an all white crew and we have to compete with literal shitskin illegals that undercut us by sixty percent usually. Shit is so fucked. I will happily be Adolf Hitler. Sieg Heil
This is out beerhall

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

Hitler worked with zionist jew groups, Hitler was an army officer and he wasn't a native german (he was austrian).

That alone is enough for shills to make "probably" conspiracy theories about him.

Heck, shills here call people mossad/special force agents JUST for appearing in any right wing protest.

The Beer's hall putsch would be called false flag so that Weimar can round up all the right-wingers.

Luke Williams
Luke Williams

Looks like Walmart sells them for a few bucks. I'll just stick with Walmart, faggot

James Campbell
James Campbell

But we have lingered long enough in these painted courts. The worth of the thing signified must vindicate our taste for the emblem. Everything that is called fashion and courtesy humbles itself before the cause and fountain of honor, creator of titles and dignities, namely, the heart of love. This is the royal blood, this the fire, which, in all countries and contingencies, will work after its kind, and conquer and expand all that approaches it. This gives new meanings to every fact. This impoverishes the rich, suffering no grandeur but its own. What is rich? Are you rich enough to help anybody? to succor the unfashionable and the eccentric? rich enough to make the Canadian in his wagon, the itinerant with his consul’s paper which commends him “To the charitable,” the swarthy Italian with his few broken words of English, the lame pauper hunted by overseers from town to town, even the poor insane or besotted wreck of man or woman, feel the noble exception of your presence and your house, from the general bleakness and stoniness; to make such feel that they were greeted with a voice which made them both remember and hope? What is vulgar, but to refuse the claim on acute and conclusive reasons? What is gentle, but to allow it, and give their heart and yours one holiday from the national caution? Without the rich heart, wealth is an ugly beggar. The king of Schiraz could not afford to be so bountiful as the poor Osman who dwelt at his gate. Osman had a humanity so broad and deep, that although his speech was so bold and free with the Koran, as to disgust all the dervishes, yet was there never a poor outcast, eccentric, or insane man, some fool who had cut off his beard, or who had been mutilated under a vow, or had a pet madness in his brain, but fled at once to him, — that great heart lay there so sunny and hospitable in the centre of the country, — that it seemed as if the instinct of all sufferers drew them to his side. And the madness which he harbored, he did not share. Is not this to be rich? this only to be rightly rich?

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Death before dishonor, he that watereth shall be watered himself, the Honed honor each other, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

John Paul Jones.OGG

Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

do it phaggot

Sure you can twist anything. But anons reject these "leaders" based on their teachings. I wouldn't care if the next Hitler was 5'5 and black if his teaching and actions were National Socialist and not Zionist or Bolshevik in nature. But I can understand your point.

great quotes i saved them

Tyler Perry
Tyler Perry

Shills will defame and character assassinate anyone.

The only leaders would be the dead ones.

Ethan Barnes
Ethan Barnes

Which "leader" has been falsely accused?

Noah Hughes
Noah Hughes

George Lincoln Rockwell for one.

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

Rockwell is dead. I mean which present-day leader has been falsely accused?

Joshua Campbell
Joshua Campbell

Nordfront group in Sweden got accused of being cop for being jailed then released later.

David Wilson
David Wilson

Accelerationism is a form of honorable combat - simply because it draws out the merchants into the open. The peasants are only apathetic because they are afraid of being called nazis.

Luke Myers
Luke Myers

being jailed then released later
Yeah that's kinda suspicious? But they're group. Any number of their members can and probably are law enforcement because every group eventually gets infiltrated. But were talking about specific leaders. Which single leader (modern-day) has been false accused?

Evan Smith
Evan Smith

Collapse is coming not matter what we do. Peak oil production was hit in 2018 and is not coming back up. Industrial society will fall, and with it, modern society.

Gear the fuck up, get ready, and take your stupid face out of your ass, and get ready. Preserving you and your linage: what your ancestors fought so hard to protect, that is honor.

Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

Hitler was jailed and then released later.
Which single leader (modern-day) has been false accused?
Well, nowadays any group can be accused in the first place, no need for leader.

Colton Howard
Colton Howard

Truth is there isn't a single leader that can claim to have been accused falsely. They're all Jewish, Zionist, or Bolshevik. Every single one. This is why no one can name a leader who has suffered without justification. I predict the next Hitler will not be a man of prestige. He will not have a solid career, great wealth, or anything else we associate with ecelebs. He will be a reformed degenerate of the worst type, single-minded, and whose only passion in this fallen kosher world is love for his People. Despite all he lacks, the Aryan spirit will glow from his fierce and mad gaze. That who is we should be on the look-out for. Not political salesmen and rabble-rousers. Just my opinion.

Jose Moore
Jose Moore

that's because fighting back was made illegal last year user

Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

Again, every present groups existed have been accused, whether falsely or not.

The point is to prevent organization, no matter if said group is legit or not.

Austin Allen
Austin Allen

The point is to prevent organization
Is it your belief that organization, at this stage, is superior to decentralization?

James Jenkins
James Jenkins

Organization at this stage is not better because it's easily infiltrated.

It's better to sow chaos to accelerate the breakdown of society THEN we organize.

Brody Thompson
Brody Thompson

Unless the accelerationism is ultimately to lead to a general atmosphere for a major trigger point that would cause Chimpamania on a very wide scale by a shutdown of bread & circus
you don't need the entire crew to successfully pull off mutiny, just the co-operation of best swashbucklers, then most will just follow whoever's at the wheel

how do you accomplish accelerationism on the scale required to not only match but defeat the eternal, mythological merchant; without becoming exactly what they are but from a different perspective?
this is not a matter of treachery against traitors, this is a matter of removing parasites and predators from the top all the way to the bottom
civilization is symbiosis, parasites must be removed from the host

The beginnings of this were all honesty & truth,
we've been trying to redpill everyone for years, but they don't care if illegals rape and kill our citizens
they don't care if legal immigrants form rape gangs and police do nothing but cover it up
they don't care if the press lies or educators push bullshit on children
they don't care if there's more and more terrorists coming into and being born every year with no end in sight
these people don't care about the truth, and wouldn't know what to do with it if they had it
there is no force of good without force

accelerationism
throws authorities into the deep end, to show us all how incompetent they are and who they really protect

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Andrew Moore
Andrew Moore

checks out. And I completely agree with you. So the anons who are creating groups and "movements" do so either in bad faith or because they lack the insight to properly lead this fight. So whether exposing these groups is malicious or done in good faith is irrelevant to me – the shills destroy, at the very best, people not meant to lead. You know?

William Williams
William Williams

Meh, at this point I agree.

Organization without paramilitary/guns is useless.

Oliver Barnes
Oliver Barnes

For sure man. But consider Revolution comes in various ways, not all requiring violence.

Luis Wright
Luis Wright

i agree with accelerationism but i think people have selected the wrong target, i see what you see OP, the complicit nature our people have been subdued into.
i will speak in left and right terms due to the nature of the us as a whole and will be using mainstream definitions…doesn't matter if they are wrong or not, there is a larger reality in society and they have their own definitions of things that do not rely on facts.
with that said the political right has never been the ones who have been spurred into violence, they have always been the ones to respond to it, pushing the political motives and the authoritarian desires of the left isn't going to do anything that put us in the same situation as europe but worse because we are already further along in the replacement scheme, pushing the lefts motives would do nothing more than bring us in line with Europe and under the heel of the EU and UN.
what we have seen time and time again is the left chimp out when they aren't getting their way, they have it in their heads they are fighting for the betterment of the world,it may be delusional but they truly believe they are in the right, just as much as we do, they are just more emotional by nature and more prone to breaking psychologically and devolving into chimp mode….people talk about accelerationism like it's not already happening, just look at how fucking crazy shit has gotten since trump has taken office, there have been riots, numerous political attacks, shit is certainly heating up.
the best thing we could do is exactly what we have been doing for the last few years and goading the left and the mainstream into exposing themselves as idiots and hypocrites, the more we stop these impetuous children from advancing their goals and the more our numbers grow the closer we get to a complete and utter freakout from the left and the right finally getting off their ass to respond.

the whole problem has been people are expecting the right to get pissed off and just attack, i just don't see that happening, they are going to need to see the left commit mass acts of violence before they do anything….if we want to tear everything down so we can rebuild we are going to have to focus on provoking the left…we need to manufacture more black lives matters type movements and get everyone amped up of some dead nigger so they start burning cities and rioting again….like i said, we're going after the wrong people, middle class white people just aren't going to chimp out as easily as actual chimps.

Parker Collins
Parker Collins

There's no revolution without guns.

Parker Taylor
Parker Taylor

I hope I'm not rude but that isn't true. Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that he regretted using violence in an attempt to over-throw the German State. Our Enemy is so unique and even smart in his strategy. We must take the into account and out-smart him. Right now he's running a campaign to demonize white people who resist their genocide. So we must ask ourselves if this is his strategy what can we do to counter it and what actions, if any, will only help him further this meme. We have to be smart not just ruthless.

Wyatt Campbell
Wyatt Campbell

When jews accomplish every one of their objectives, that's when we win.

t. accelerationist

Nathan Nelson
Nathan Nelson

At this point in time most educated whites only keep going out of a strong sense of spite. Once you know you won't win, there's nothing to lose.

William Myers
William Myers

Nigger, as said, there is no revolution without guns and violence.

Talk convinces no fucking body.

Gavin Roberts
Gavin Roberts

When jews accomplish every ones of their objectives, that's when we win.

t. non-accelerationist

Brody Price
Brody Price

If the Jew's strategy is painting whites as violent so as to justify our genocide, then is the proper strategy to act violent?

Jace Wright
Jace Wright

Yes, it is. If the jews want us to do the correct things, then we will do the correct things.

Violence is the answer to the race question.

Ethan Torres
Ethan Torres

I support accelerationism in the peaceful way, such as exercising your Right to Self-Determination the exact same way the Founding Fathers did.
When you have Diplomatic Immunity, it changes your perspective on a lot of things.

Juan Long
Juan Long

Who will stand up to us?

Isaiah Powell
Isaiah Powell

Our enemy wants us to do X
Therefore we should X
this sounds very similar to (((Accelerationism)))

Perhaps you're neglecting to understand the severity of our situation? Whites are 11% of the global population. The Jew has no honor. He doesn't fight a fair fight. He convinces stronger people to fight on his behalf. The Jew is working to convince the 90% global non-white majority that Europeans are the problem and should be eliminated as a matter of International safety. That is what the Jew is doing. He's using psychological tricks to manipulate everyone else. The Jew isn't lining us against the wall and shooting. He's using mind tricks to destroy us. That's intelligent whether user wants to admit it or not. And we must be even more intelligent, to convince the world it is in fact the Jew behind our calamities. If we react how the Jew paints us, if we live up to the stereotype the deceived masses has embraced, then we will lose. We must be smarter.

Ayden Edwards
Ayden Edwards

Our enemy wants us to the correct things
Therefore we should do the correct things
I see no problem with this. The fact you are trying to avoid the violence option is self-denial.
The Jew is working to convince the 90% global non-white majority that Europeans are the problem and should be eliminated as a matter of International safety.
The funny thing is that white is being slowly genocided for that exact reason, so when will whites fight back?
If we react how the Jew paints us, if we live up to the stereotype the deceived masses has embraced, then we will lose.
If we fight, we will lose, that's how I know you aren't one of us.

Anthony Allen
Anthony Allen

The enemy wants us Whites genocided, the ONLY way out of a system legally is via the Right to Self-Determination.
Also, Whites make up less than 8% of the global population iirc.

Robert Ortiz
Robert Ortiz

The Enemy wants to convince the non-white majority that whites are violent, senseless, and must be destroyed. Our battle-plan must reflect our Enemy's strategy, so as to counter it, lest we go along with his agenda.

You're right. The Enemy does want whites genocided. But how is he achieving that goal? He isn't gassing us, shooting us, or acting in a traditional way. He is genociding us using psychological manipulation. That is the level on which he is playing the game and if we react on a lesser level, then we lose. We must outsmart our Enemy.
Also, Whites make up less than 8% of the global population iirc.
Could be. I thought it was 10 honestly. But 8-10% seems right. If whites go this alone, if our strategy causes us to isolate ourselves, we won't win. Think about it. Can you defeat 90 people in a fist fight? Maybe but it's not very likely. We must rely on intelligence and not just our willingness to kill and mame.

Michael Wood
Michael Wood

without becoming exactly what they are
Your a stupid nigger and here is why. The (((merchant))) came into OUR societies and caused US harm, we were honest and true before, and it is that very same morality that got us exploited.
And as for honor? You can't be honorable with slimy shitbag opponents who know NOTHING of honor.
Meine Ehre heißt Treue, that is the ONLY honor that is still legitimate, anything else is just avoidance.

Connor Edwards
Connor Edwards

The Enemy wants to convince the non-white majority that whites are violent, senseless, and must be destroyed.
The non-white majority already sees white as such, or worse, pacificist cuck who let themselves be walked over, which is why they migrate to white nation en masse and breed out white.
Our battle-plan must reflect our Enemy's strategy, so as to counter it, lest we go along with his agenda.
Our battle-plan is to fight, kill the invaders inside our own nation and keep our border safe.
He is genociding us using psychological manipulation.
He is genociding us by outbreeding us actually.

Goddamn, this yid is now trying to think when the time of action is now.
Can you defeat 90 people in a fist fight?
No, that's what weapons are for.

Samuel Rivera
Samuel Rivera

Whites NEED to unite, but unfortunately, there's FAR too many spergs from the Alt-Right discord server that got shoah'd (rip), to the spiraling out of control where in today's jewish society, I personally tolerate a small amount of degeneracy, so long as they keep in the closet away from normal society.
It all amounts to trust, which of course in today's jew societies are a bit justifiable, but frankly it's better to risk your shekels rather than risk your life, especially in today's societies. I risked my entire livelihood and now I have diplomatic immunity, I legally cannot be touched by any foreign govt. It's all about keeping the peace and we can do whatever we want without the jew in our society.
The Right to Self-Determination exists, one example of an accidental exercise of that Right was the South Afrikaner town of Orania. Why does nobody talk about that place??

Leo Flores
Leo Flores

I'd like to gain some other perspectives as to why those who advocate for accelerationism do so.
Traditional society is based on precedent in seasonal time, while Modernity is based on dialectics in linear time. Modernity is therefore supremely adaptable, as it is able to repeatedly destroy and overcome its past. Whenever the two collide, the Modern always wins by superior numbers and mass (e.g. large armies vs skilled warriors, democracy vs aristocracy, media vs religion.) Fighting Modernity with Traditional honor is like strictly following the Queensbury rules against an opponent who repeatedly kicks you in the balls.
The need to resolve dialectical tension requires constant creative destruction, which is not sustainable unless tempered by conservatism. This is why liberal democracies always have a center-right party as a major part of their government. Even the very term 'right wing' derives from French revolutionaries who would defend an existing political position, while the 'left wing' would propose a new one. Both are revolutionaries, just playing different roles.
Take away the conservative element of the revolution and it starts eating itself (e.g. Capitalism vs Socialism, democracy vs populism, automation vs labor, liberalism vs Islam, trannies vs TERFs, etc.) The very strength of Modernity is its greatest weakness, namely rootless adaptability. Fighting Modernity with Accelerationism is like seeing your opponent off balance and giving him a slight push.
all you're accomplishing is getting them all used to a new norm of general background noise that doesn't ultimately ever affect the vast majority enough at once to make them give a shit
This comes down to what you choose to accelerate. If you accelerate the things which the majority already agree on, then their tolerance will steadily increase like a drug addict. If you accelerate the contradictory elements in their worldview, then they are forced into internal conflict. Each new conflict resolution alienates a portion of the establishment (e.g. classical liberals, 2nd wave feminists, color-blind anti-racists.) The purging process can only go so fast before a critical mass are completely alienated from the society and ready to adopt alternatives.
The OTHER layer I see with this, is how do you accomplish accelerationism on the scale required to not only match but defeat the eternal, mythological merchant; without becoming exactly what they are but from a different perspective?
The key here is discrimination. Your ancestors had fair fights between warriors, while being willing to fight dirty against the unfair and underhanded. This ensured that bad behavior was not rewarded. We similarly have infighting between many factions while also fighting common enemies. Applying your honor code to fights with your brother warriors is good. Wasting it on the undeserving is a dereliction of duty.

tldr; Fight honorable opponents with honor, and dishonorable opponents with ruthless scheming trickery. Turn Modern society against itself, then stand back and pass around the popcorn. Never interrupt your enemies when they are making a bad move.

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Hunter Morgan
Hunter Morgan

First, whites are still a majority, how ever so slightly, in their homelands and held colonies. Second, those who would oppose us do not have the logistical prowess to survive without our trade or outright support. Third, how can populations who could not sustain themselves without us plan on being capable of mobilizing and projecting force against us? Fourth, all of the greatest weapons industries on earth reside within our territories. Fifth, the US alone has the worlds 3 largest air forces, 2 largest navies and the best equipped and most mobile armies in the world. If whites actually get their shit together, nothing could stop us.

John Morales
John Morales

The (((merchant))) came into OUR societies and caused US harm, we were honest and true before, and it is that very same morality that got us exploited.
Yup. That's our situation. You can rage about it and react emotionally or you can get serious and decide to defeat the Enemy. This is a personal choice.
And as for honor? You can't be honorable with slimy shitbag opponents who know NOTHING of honor.
Yup. Our Enemy has no honor. You can react emotionally and burst out with rage or you can get serious and figure out how to defeat him.

It's a shitty situation. Our enemy is intelligent and without honor. He's so adept at destruction that your individual actions will decide whether he prospers or fails. I'm not telling you what to do. I'm telling you to divorce yourself from emotion and think about the long-term and how to win. That's it, man.

The non-white majority already sees white as such, or worse, pacificist cuck who let themselves be walked over, which is why they migrate to white nation en masse and breed out white.
Why do they see whites in this light? Because the Jew has told them to see us this way, and we give confirmation of his world-view: we either lash out in violence or we do nothing. I am not telling you to to do nothing. I am telling you to think before acting. Think god dammit. If you play poker you don't go all in every single hand or you will lose. The Jew is playing a game and we must learn to play it better.

Hunter Hill
Hunter Hill

legally cannot be touched
Stop speaking laws, they have weapons.

Ryan Roberts
Ryan Roberts

Can you defeat 90 people in a fist fight?
You know nothing of military strategy and combat tactics. Even being in a position where you are 90-1 and on the same level just means your gonna get fucked up, if you don't even have so much as a gun then your already dead. It's a recurring theme so AVOID THE ENEMIES STRONG POINTS, which means avoiding the bulk of their force. Another thing is risk mitigation and combat efficiency, which means to bleed your enemy as best you can while bleeding as little as you can, if you can bleed him fast enough and with high intensity while doing little to no bleeding yourself then that 90 quickly gets knocked down multiple notches.
tl;dr stop being a faggot who can't into warfare

Ryder Cox
Ryder Cox

Our Kingdom is quickly falling. Israel no longer needs American gibs. Israel controls most of the world's Nations. America as a super-power, and Russia and China too, as super-powers is an illusion. All of these places Israel controls. If whites get their shit together then yes we can win.

Julian Hughes
Julian Hughes

Why do they see whites in this light?
They think like this because they go into white countries and actually see that whites are cucks.
No matter what the jews tell them, it's reality that whites do not fight back.
I am telling you to think before acting. Think god dammit. If you play poker you don't go all in every single hand or you will lose.
LOL, I think and the only solution is to fight. Nobody respects a talker or a thinker, only a do-er.

Jose Bell
Jose Bell

So then there is only one step, name the jew.

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

Oh I can't into warfare? Jews are rapidly genociding white people without firing a single bullet. Perhaps you can not into warfare because you have no counter to this but firing bullets and playing the game on an inferior level?

Dominic Carter
Dominic Carter

Yes.

Robert Martinez
Robert Martinez

I think I have named the jews for over 10 years now.

Even the jews have named the jews.

Reality shows naming the jew is toothless threat.

Josiah Anderson
Josiah Anderson

Actually, the counter to this is to kill the non-whites (jew included) who outbreed us.

This is faster than waiting for the non-whites to outbreed us.

The only reason jews cannot kill white people with bullet is because they have no force to do so.

Andrew Gray
Andrew Gray

Citizens have no Rights, that's why any law that is vaguely defined by the Posterity can be revoked by any and no reason whatsoever. That's the power of International Law, citizens are kept in a mind loop.

Camden Thomas
Camden Thomas

I'm not even sure how to comprehend what the fuck you just said so i'm going to assume you didn't quite understand what I said or that maybe you didn't even look up the translation of "Meine Ehre heißt Treue" My LOYALTY is my honor. Meaning my loyalty to my people. I say this is the only kind that matters because it is the very core of any honor, to have honor is to have loyalty to some greater thing and to be influenced by it. The honor of old is from a system that is just as old and ineffective. If you are LOYAL to your people, then you already have all the honor you need, and no fucked up thing you do will matter because it is in the pursuit of your honor, your people.

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

Laws are nothing withour guns.

Brayden Thompson
Brayden Thompson

It's a yid trying to deradicalize you.

Violence is bad, goyim, you must think about you act. And remember to name the jews.

Naming the jews is gonna redpill the muslims and they will stop genociding us.

Jackson Butler
Jackson Butler

The only good white genocide is doing is showing whites why they must rule this world - as a matter of survival. I'd only say to not focus on the end goal while neglecting to consider how we get there.

If you know the Enemy's strategy but choose to hold it into no account going forward into battle then you have no honor nor care for your People.

Andrew White
Andrew White

get behind me kike

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Brandon Jenkins
Brandon Jenkins

guns removed
pro-white politicians removed
right-wing websites blocked
overton window lurched to the left
burning European monuments
When your enemies win, you win.

t. accelerationist

Zachary Williams
Zachary Williams

The only good white genocide is doing is showing whites why they must rule this world - as a matter of survival. I'd only say to not focus on the end goal while neglecting to consider how we get there.
Nigger I don't understand what the fuck are you talking here.
White genocide is about killing whites so that they have their power to rule the world.
Get behind me kike.

Angel Ross
Angel Ross

Tell me then faggot, how can I into "all warfare is deception" when they literally own and operate every facet of society on every level? Did you maybe consider that they know all there is to know about deception because they do it all the time?
Tell me what other option there is to defeat them without killing them?
Jews are rapidly genociding white people without firing a single bullet
Oh they most certainly have, and do regularly, they just use their golems (cops, niggers, muslims) to do it for them. If you so much as try to establish a hunting club you'll get waco'd.
Killing ones enemies has historically proven to be 100% more effective than voting them out.
Democracy as a whole is a historical anomaly and is nothing but a tool of the jews, as their only weapon is talk and money, both of which win in democracy.

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

When your enemies win, you win.

t. non-accelerationist

It's funny because these exact same things would happen if you don't accelerate.

Oliver Stewart
Oliver Stewart

Probably not. I am not gay.

Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

White Genocide is showing whites why they must control this world: every other race is struggling towards our extinction. Without total dominance we will be destroyed. Controlling the world becomes a matter of survival, not superiority.

when they literally own and operate every facet of society on every level?
how did they come to own on such a level? how did they come to amass so much influence? if you lack the ability to counter them, if you can not learn how to influence society, then you are not needed. If you lack the intellect to not merely equal what the Jew has done but surpass him what good are you?

Luis Brown
Luis Brown

deception and usury are the same as bleeding someone
You sure are one stupid motherfucker

Chase Price
Chase Price

doesn't even understand what accelerationism is
Filtered

Adam Allen
Adam Allen

White Genocide is showing whites why they must control this world
OK, I agree with you?
how did they come to own on such a level?
Because whites let them, retard.

So the solution is: whites shouldn't let them control the world.

Aiden Miller
Aiden Miller

<lying is intelligent
<its totally not cunning
<we must have more smartness
<dont expose the cunning cunts
<and definitely dont kill your enemies, because that's when they win
Rabbi, you've become flaccid, drunk off your own jizz. You're destined for the lake of fire. which is an allegory for ovens

Elijah Ross
Elijah Ross

Aksually, I think you don't understand what accelerationism means.

Colton Rivera
Colton Rivera

So the solution is: whites shouldn't let them control the world.
You look at the end-goal while disregarding the individual steps to get there!

tell user to expose the cunning cunts
this means im saying to not expose the cunning cunts
get out kike i have no interest in you today

Charles James
Charles James

Ok fags, listen up. Acceleration is not a tactic, goal, or method, it is a consequence. All this hurr duur could/ would are expressly symptoms of acceleration. Wake up. You are the very cause of the effects you vainly avert.

Joshua Reyes
Joshua Reyes

Forget the idea that any form of accelerationism will occur in your lifetime that will result in a meaningful and desired outcome. I'm just being honest, demographically there is overwhelming opposition to what you're describing.

As another poster on here described Erdogan's false flag coup is a great example of how your enemy uses the desire to "accelerate" outcomes to defeat you. This assuming you're not a glownigger, in which case you know precisely what I'm talking about.

Blake King
Blake King

You look at the end-goal while disregarding the individual steps to get there!
I have spelled out the step:
1. Acquire guns.
2. Shoot them.
3. Jews can't control the world if they are dead.
get out kike i have no interest in you today
LOL, you have exposed the cunts for over 10 years, tell me how that works.

James Harris
James Harris

It's a tactics, you goddamn retard.

It's amazing how these yids can even post.

Evan Clark
Evan Clark

I have my weapons and so far I have been respected.

Hudson Smith
Hudson Smith

Jews only genocide whites with the approval of non-whites
Jews gain that approval by convincing non-whites that whites are violent, mindless, and must be destroyed
Therefore, we must act violent and mindless
You have a real high IQ user. How can I even compete?

Jeremiah Williams
Jeremiah Williams

Jews only genocide whites with the approval of non-whites
Incorrect.

Jews only genocide whites with the approval of whites.

Whites let the non-whites to genocide them.

So the solution: whites should stop letting themselves be genocided.

You got the first premise wrong.

Austin Baker
Austin Baker

Truth, you're not very smart if you don't realize this is a war of attrition. The only thing that will save the west is capitalizing on a black swan type opportunity.

That aside it is a waiting game, and ensuring that your side doesn't lose too many people.

Isaac Powell
Isaac Powell

You would be respected far more if you use those weapons.

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

You have just proven why accelerationism won't work.

Kayden Carter
Kayden Carter

Where exactly?
It's war of attrition only because whites refuse to fight back.

Landon Murphy
Landon Murphy

Jews only genocide whites with the approval of whites.
Yes, it's solely whites who allow genocide. It's totally not the Muslims, niggers, and spics flooding into only and all white countries convinced of our genocide.

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This. Finally user gets it ITT.

Zachary Perez
Zachary Perez

The majority of white people aren't for it, and simply won't ever be in your life time.

Samuel Johnson
Samuel Johnson

Yes, it's solely whites who allow genocide. It's totally not the Muslims, niggers, and spics flooding into only and all white countries convinced of our genocide.
Nope, they are the ones doing the genociding.

Whites are convinced and ENABLED the genociding while not fighting back.

Gavin Thomas
Gavin Thomas

Thus we must provide a context where white people either fight or die.

The slow boil of comfort means people will die in their sleep, it's that simple.

Chase Rogers
Chase Rogers

Kikes go through the whole thread to convince people not to fight back.

It's real funny.

That's what they fear.

Carson Roberts
Carson Roberts

You will NEVER convince those who aren't already convinced, realize this.

I swear you're either retarded or you'r CIA shilling tactics are infuriatingly stupid.

Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor

OP, it's corrupting Shlomo's timeline. The attack on us, isn't new. They've been planned this for a very long time and in great detail. For them to win, it MUST go according to their schedule. Which is why things like Trump make them go mental.

Your third paragraph has me thinking you're a mischling but with full kike mental illness. Or maybe, you're a fucking boomer with dementia what with this cuckservative bullshit;
Is it more important to keep honor with the way we want things to be, to fight and win with?

Demographics have us up against a metaphorical wall today but unless we act NOW, it's will become a literal one. Commie jew fucks will execute us by firing squad. Probably be ppv so they can make shekels off our deaths.

You're most likely a pussy who wants an excuse to stay on the shitter. That's fine, it's your life, just know that you will die there.

Carson Hughes
Carson Hughes

It's war of attrition only because whites refuse to fight back.

Does

Not

Matter

Those who refuse are a nonstarter.

Jordan Gray
Jordan Gray

Only when I absolutely need to. Diplomatic Immunity comes with MAJOR responsibility.

Brody Stewart
Brody Stewart

Whites are convinced and ENABLED the genociding while not fighting back.
So are non-whites? It seems to me the proper strategy is re-educating not only whites but non-whites.

Jackson Garcia
Jackson Garcia

More amazing is the fact that you can't post; A correct sentence structure nor argument. What you did just then is what you'll do to the end. Beg and blame everyone around you who's bidding doesn't conform to you ignoring your own responsibility toward yourself. Screech loud as you can cuz I promise it will be the last thing you hear one way or another.

Jacob Cooper
Jacob Cooper

So are non-whites? It seems to me the proper strategy is re-educating not only whites but non-whites.
Non-whites are the ones doing the genociding.

If whites do not allow them, they cannot genocide whites.
LOL kike, speak a lot, but say nothing.

Isaac Clark
Isaac Clark

Non-whites are the ones doing the genociding.
Why? Why do they engage in white genocide? Tell me.

Asher Bell
Asher Bell

Because they want to fuck white women, they want to enjoy white people's wealth?

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

What wealth? America is in debt and so is the majority of Europe. So tell me: why do non-whites want to genocide white people?

Eli Russell
Eli Russell

The wealth that is the money, the houses and all the amazing technology that US & Europe have to offer.
So tell me: why do non-whites want to genocide white people?
Because they want to fuck white women, they want to enjoy white people's wealth?

Zachary Ross
Zachary Ross

Again: America and Europe is in debt. There is no wealth to plunder. So tell me exactly: why do non-whites want to genocide white people?

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Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

When even your little faggot kids are calling me a nigger for tell a roastie to fuck off.

Yeah, most of you were born worthless she'll cattle.

Of this the Jews are correct. Most of you are no better than cattle.

Brandon Anderson
Brandon Anderson

Shekel

John Lopez
John Lopez

Again, non-whites do not care about debt, their countries are in debt to white countries.

Yet there is wealth to plunder in Europe. The physical ones: The wealth that is the money, the houses and all the amazing technology that US & Europe have to offer.

Funny how the yids are now trying to obscure the point.

Andrew Thomas
Andrew Thomas

YOU claimed non-whites want to genocide white people to take our wealth. I showed that Europe is in debt, along with America, and neither has wealth to plunder! So what is your excuse now? That non-whites want the same technology available in non-white countries, specifically the Middle East? At what point do you realize you have lost this debate?

Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

Again, I said it: The wealth that is the money, the houses and all the amazing technology that US & Europe have to offer.

hat non-whites want the same technology available in non-white countries, specifically the Middle East?
Yeah they don't, only the princes and upper caste have these technologies, not the bumfuck muslims in Syria or Lybia.
At what point do you realize you have lost this debate?
Right back at you.
You have lost the debate so much that now you are playing stupid.

Sebastian Reyes
Sebastian Reyes

Actual wealth is fake promissory notes from kike banks
No you drooling retard, real wealth is in Nature, which is to say it's the genetics of the race that are the true wealth of a nation. Why to all the fucking shitskins want to genocide Whites? Jealousy, stupidity, hatred of Nature, choose your pick. Why do niggers destroy the environments where they live? Why do cchinks? Why do poos? Why do kikes undermine every society that gives them shelter. It's because they are rabid subhumans that hate Nature and do not deserve to partake in its glories. Glories like existing. Now fuck off merchant

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Xavier Campbell
Xavier Campbell

You are arguing with a kike who's playing stupid.

He has lost the argument.

Maybe now he will educate the non-whites on how american and european are poor and shouldn't be genocided LOL

Jaxson Scott
Jaxson Scott

Look at this dummy, he thinks wealth is digit and fiat currency.

Why are you here? Go read Bastiat, Mises and Ron Paul. Then finish up with Hitler one what the greatest wealth a person and people have.

As for your thinly veiled trap, she lives in Colorado.

Xavier Harris
Xavier Harris

neither has wealth to plunder!
<lol there is neither fertile land nor mineral deposits in Europe or America
<The only thing wealth is, is a shekel. Nothing else exists
Should I assume you're just pretending to be retarded? Piss off shill

Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

there is no wealth in Europe or America to plunder
but at the same time non-whites genocide whites to take the wealth in Europe and America
therefore we must act violently and live-up to the Jewish stereotype of whites instead of consider real strategies to combat our Enemy's own method
Look how far beneath my heel you are.

haha non-whites are genociding whites out of jealousy!
a jealousy totally not created by jews!
see above

I tell you this Anonymous:

I am not a peaceful man. I am an intelligent man. If the Enemy succeeds only because he paints us as violent, then I say to do the opposite while exposing him. This is true Accelerationism, a concept and term I myself have brought to this place. Be not deceived by the Enemy who tells you to do exactly what benefits his agenda. And do not blindly believe me but think, if you're even capable of such activity, and do what is best for our People in the long-term.

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Evan Robinson
Evan Robinson

I'm not arguing with shit, jackass. I'm making a point for lurkers to see that Zig Forumsacks aren't falling for these moronic statements. Uneducated plebs lurk here and need to see how roundly we oppose shekels being the basis of wealth.

Ian Parker
Ian Parker

there is no wealth in Europe or America to plunder
Incorrect.

There is wealth in Europe in form of: he wealth that is the money, the houses and all the amazing technology that US & Europe have to offer.

Your argument is wrong from the onset and you are playing stupid.

Lincoln Watson
Lincoln Watson

How do you get that genie back in the bottle?
The merchant goes to war with money and mortgages. The warrior uses steel. The brahmin uses words. We're all at war, so when the war ends. The war ends when the jew is dead. Unless every last of them is dead, including all the diaspora, especially the diaspora, the genie won't go back in his bottle. He will go, once the jew is dead. Greater questions than the jewish, even other wars, will urge us on. We are fundamentally different from the jew, and I believe in Fate. I believe our race's fate is greater than the semite's, although I don't call it hope.

Ryder Flores
Ryder Flores

It's cool if subhumans the world over are so stupid they can be convinced to attempt to genocide Whites by kikes
NBD just let them all breed like roaches and destroy the environment, only ever think about jews
Oh fuck off with your false dichotomy.
a concept and term I myself have brought to this place
Oh, you're just a delusional narcissist who thinks his pretend "internet identity" on an anonymous board, kek is something to brag about. I have no idea where you're from, but go back there and hang yourself

Samuel Jenkins
Samuel Jenkins

It's moarpheus.

Anything BUT the violence option is good, goyim.

We need to redpill the non-whites so they can stop genociding us.

Noah Richardson
Noah Richardson

Accelerationism is for people who don't want their grandchildren to experience and fight through the great conflict. They would rather it happen today.

As Machiavelli says; "War is never avoided. It is only deferred to your disadvantage. "

Accelerationism should never mean giving your enemies more power, however.

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Ryan Campbell
Ryan Campbell

Accelerationism as in voting for leftist and communists to fuck up your country even more = bad.

Acclerationism as in shooting shit and doing terrorism, not paying tax in order to stretch out the state's resources and destroying the social contract = good.

Isaiah Cooper
Isaiah Cooper

how do you accomplish accelerationism on the scale required to not only match but defeat the eternal, mythological merchant; without becoming exactly what they are but from a different perspective?
Regression to the mean ensures that this doesn't become a persistent problem. If we have to become monsters to save our children, so be it

Jason Roberts
Jason Roberts

accelerationism should never mean giving your enemies more power, however.

That's all this modern narrative confers, more power to the enemy.

I swear all the people who are pushing this whole violent accelerationism never have arguments, all they do is repeat their same grievances and concerns over and over again without citing any valid solutions to the problems outside of repeating the glaringly flawed solution they have rattling around in their head.

Noah Butler
Noah Butler

Actually they have the best argument of all: if you fight back, people would stop fucking with you.

This whole thread, nobody has refuted that.

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

No, it has been, repeatedly, god you're all the same.

Guys like Erdogan love retards like you.

Gavin Bennett
Gavin Bennett

Where has it been refuted?
Guys like Erdogan love retards like you.
So Erdogan love dissinters? Which is why he is paranoid about his own government?

Austin Morgan
Austin Morgan

You don't learn from history do you?

Jackson Gutierrez
Jackson Gutierrez

Every revolution is about violence, what history do you learn?

Thomas Rivera
Thomas Rivera

I'm glad you keep asking ignorant questions because it's doing a lot to strongly discredit your position.

Robert Cruz
Robert Cruz

I haven't seen one argument to discredit my position.

Noah Powell
Noah Powell

I posit that thee frog has no legs. No jump will occur because the legs were clipped after the last time the Gods put the Frog back into the pot.

How do accelerationists propose to actually get a frog without legs to jump? And don't let the inevitability of events suggest meaninglessness to you. If the gods are the primary residents, wouldn't the only meaning in existence be theirs to understand and interpret?

Nicholas Barnes
Nicholas Barnes

Okay. Go ahead and fight back. Watch What Happens. Show me what you're proposing is valid.

Luke Gray
Luke Gray

Prove the frog has no legs?

Prove there is a frog at all?

Angel Lopez
Angel Lopez

you don't even understand honor, vex. typical castizo

it is honorable for a germanic of pure blood and pure soul to fight for his race even when all is against him.

Accelerationism is what we do, not what they do

De Gaulle sold out the gaullish and frankish people for oil with niggers and berbers fighting to "liberate" france while the legitmate frenchmen fight to berlin… c'est une dommage qu'il ne puisse pas pourrir avec ces chattes africaines

The founding fathers were freemasonic egalitarian jewish-merchant rats. Wake up and understand that the modern concept of america is racially-devoid fraud

Hunter Young
Hunter Young

Okay. Why haven't you done that? Have you done your week of scouting? Why haven't you led people to victory yet? What's stopping you from getting the frog to jump?

Brayden Taylor
Brayden Taylor

(Checked)
You get the metaphor, I know you do. I want you to state how you think you can get whites to side with whites when the social contract goes tits up. And how do you stop ZOG agents from infiltrating in organized fashion, promising the return of Modernity to the normies, if they turn on you?

Angel Collins
Angel Collins

Nothing stopping me actually.

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

I don't get the metaphor.

Prove to me the frog has no legs?

Andrew Harris
Andrew Harris

Deflection is pathetic.

Grayson Anderson
Grayson Anderson

And nothing can be done to fix any of it. The frog has no legs.

Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

Because the kikes still exist. Because after all this time, all those expulsions, all those honored ancestors of ours; They're still here. We're still here. And nobody is fighting back enmasse. I'm asking you to prove it can be done. I'm saying that the gods will actively stack events to where everyone fizzles out as a lone wolf.

Prove me wrong.

John Miller
John Miller

Then you haven't posted pics, why?

Oliver Wilson
Oliver Wilson

Deflection how? I've always been pathetic. It's in my nature. All of existence is punishment in some form, to someone. Maybe I'm yours?

David Ramirez
David Ramirez

So? That's where we are at now. ZOG's and useless lemmings.

James Perez
James Perez

I don't get it, why does the kike existing mean the frogs have no legs?
Why should I post pics?

John Scott
John Scott

You are too pathetic to be punishing.

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

Accelerationists are people who expect chaos and bloodshed in the future and can't wait for it.
Basically, gore voyeurs with ADHD.

Adrian Nguyen
Adrian Nguyen

Get called nigger by little faggot Euro kid. Proceed to climb fucking mountain taking the most stupidly difficult line imagined. Get halfway up and realize the only other tracks are from fucking deer, and they are going the other direction. Doesn't phase me, keep climbing, almost fall off mountain.
Did complete sprawl and hugged the mountain for dear life. Laugh about it after.

Get to first real level area, see cheating fuckers already made a pathway around the easy way. Just start swearing and calling them names. Just keep taking the difficult way up. Feel justified in my choice.

Fuck this piece of shit mountain. This mountain is my bitch.

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

They're not smart enough to understand that their desires are being played off by their adversaries who see the much bigger picture.

Joshua Kelly
Joshua Kelly

Because it means that your way has been tried before, and somehow the cycle of empires keeps bringing these specific parasites back to us. So how do you promise that this will be different?

Joseph Perry
Joseph Perry

And it will continue that way forever. Watch What Happens. Anyone who isn't ZOGGED and COMPED will be shot if they try to lead.

Jonathan James
Jonathan James

WE DID NOT COME HERE TO SERVE OURSELVES, BUT TO SERVE OUR PEOPLE.
this
Self-service turns the individual into his own god. We make shit gods.

John Barnes
John Barnes

can't relate to current events without pop culture references.
Don't worry about it. You'll be in the first wave of ovens. What we do afterwards is none of your concern.

Eli White
Eli White

It hasn't been tried before actually, there was no empire that tried to exterminate jews.

Juan Sanders
Juan Sanders

They only co operated.
And had that one ss guy to talk about them about the borders and balancing of course the kikes didnt like that one bit and had him assassinated and once hitler knew he was pissed and was going to let pissireal be open borders instead.

Christopher Brooks
Christopher Brooks

Unless the accelerationism is ultimately to lead to a general atmosphere for a major trigger point that would cause Chimpamania on a very wide scale by a shutdown of bread & circus
Thats exactly what accelerationism aims to accomplish.
What part of make things so bad normal faggots start rebeling don't you understand?
Get the fuck out retard.

Sebastian Roberts
Sebastian Roberts

The beginnings of this were all honesty & truth, and that's what turned the tide at all to begfin with

You never turned the tide. Hitler may have made the slightest dent, but his work was marginal at best, because Zionist power simply transitioned over toward North America, which is where it was going anyway.

Unless the accelerationism is ultimately to lead to a general atmosphere for a major trigger point that would cause Chimpamania on a very wide scale by a shutdown of bread & circus

That's exactly the idea. It's an embrace of the ultimate collapse, because this time (((they))) have nowhere to transition when things come down. They can't run to the East; China cooperates with their scheme only for the money, as does India. They have absolutely zero cultural affinity toward Judeo-Christian leanings, and when the whole thing goes sour in the West, they'll back out and leave Zionists in the dust.

There is no way to salvage the current state models. They do not represent us, and as far as I can tell, there is no reason to want to be represented by them. Natural order dictates that they will fall. When they do, we will revert to tribalism, as the barbarians did in the aftermath of Rome's collapse. Like the barbarians did 1500 years ago, we will form our own enclaves on the ashes.

Henry Ward
Henry Ward

China cooperates with their scheme only for the money, as does India. They have absolutely zero cultural affinity toward Judeo-Christian leanings
Way off. The Chinese actually respect jews as world operators. Sure they won't let them play weird minfuck games on them, but chinks know the history.
As for the west, yeah you're right it'll go enclave based which is a good thing.

Tyler Stewart
Tyler Stewart

honor
"One cannot allow the jew the same means one would give an honest opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and nobility only to trap his enemy. The so-called religious morality of the jews is no morality at all, rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to protection from the state. The jew is not smarter than we are, rather only cleverer and craftier. His system cannot be defeated economically — he follows entirely different moral principles than we do…If someone is attacked by the jews, that is a sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the jews, or who is praised by them, is useless and dangerous."
-Goebbels

Elijah Johnson
Elijah Johnson

skull mask
not clown mask
ebay has them nigger

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Jace Torres
Jace Torres

/thread.

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Kayden Butler
Kayden Butler

the easily distracted & complacent nature of our species/the level of general "not give a fuck" damn near ubiquitous amongst us right now.
I agree with this point. Pic very related. The rest of your post is irrelevant right now. We'll cross those bridges when we get to them.

If accelerationism is to succeed, the pump is going to need some more priming. The best way to accomplish this is by increasing tensions between the left and the right. Once physical conflicts between them become a daily occurrence, do as you see fit. Act too soon, and you will fail just as miserably as C'ville did. They were warned, but they didn't listen. Don't take the bait.

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Benjamin Bell
Benjamin Bell

On this subject just look at the war between the Scotts and the English where they got rid of chivalry. As soon as one side violates the rules of chivalry, neither side is obligated to obey those rules anymore. The enemy has already violated it.

Juan Watson
Juan Watson

Why the fuck not?

Ryder Ortiz
Ryder Ortiz

assumes there will be anything left after Samson.

Go ahead Thelma and Louise; accelerationism right off that cliff. I dare you.

Levi Butler
Levi Butler

And why do you think that the pump can even be primed? How do you know that ZOG isn't counting on this to finally kill all whites?

Lucas Gomez
Lucas Gomez

Stand in the midst of 7 billion dead corpses and ask the ghosts if honor in battle made any difference reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Lincoln Thomas
Lincoln Thomas

accelerationism.
Collapse the whole fucking thing.
You fucking ugly weeb, you can be 'Honorable' when you fight and retake your society for what you believe in.
posting samurai
not posting viking.

Jaxon Lopez
Jaxon Lopez

ONE fucking "pop culture" reference
to fucking Tolkien
THIS is what gets focused on
I could take a man's arm up my ass to the shoulder while singing Liberace & not be anywhere near as much of a faggot as you.

Jonathan Bell
Jonathan Bell

optics cuckery is STILL up

Elijah Moore
Elijah Moore

Talking with someone in some other thread about the Kamikaze pilots started me down the line of thought leading to the OP. Not even going to dispute weebishness & terminal yellow fever, but that wasn't related to the choice.

Xavier Adams
Xavier Adams

Only cowards hide behind optics.

Juan Baker
Juan Baker

encrypted dark web organizing. Operate in isolated cells. You know the same sort of tactics terrorists use. It's not impossible it's just going to require more finesse and tech savvy.

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

I feel like we should adopt the kamikaze mentality. So many middle aged white males are committing suicide. Every time I see a severely depressed and possibly mentally ill person, I do my best to convince them to go the kamikaze route. If you are going to die anyway, consequences be damned, amirite?

Caleb Thompson
Caleb Thompson

The thing about those that criticize accelerationism is that they don't offer any solutions themselves. The only thing they have to suggest is passivity in one form or another, which definitely doesn't work. They only come up with dumb plans like retreat to the woods and live like the Amish, which only, at best, delays the struggle until we or our children or grandchildren are dramatically outnumbered by invaders. If their point is that accelerationism is risky and far from guaranteed to succeed, then that's true, but if there are no better alternatives it doesn't matter. Victory is never guaranteed in war.

Jackson Turner
Jackson Turner

embrace of the ultimate collapse, because this time (((they))) have nowhere to transition when things come down.
Thats a load of fucking horseshit. (((THEY))) have been prepping for this shit all along. They've built bunkers in new zealand, they've spent american money building walls around israel, they have strongholds all over the world they're not telling us about.
Accelerationisms greatest fault is the belief YOU will survive when its all over, that those implementing the fall aren't preparing for its outcome. That they aren't preparing for YOU.
They have disorganized us, they have stripped us of our identity, prevented us from banding together again– instilled the idea that even attempting to do so is a no-no and makes you "muh fascist racist". At this stage the normals are so indoctrinated they will be our enemies.
WE MUST ORGANIZE WITHIN THE NEXT 5 YEARS OR WE WILL FACE ERADICATION.
If you can't recognize that the time to act is quickly approaching you are destined to die.

Mason Morris
Mason Morris

Someone needs to check these trips of wisdom
Exactly this

Charles Sullivan
Charles Sullivan

don't fight back! Just roll over and die!
kikes like you won't even get to die from the rope.

Sebastian Gomez
Sebastian Gomez

I'd like to gain some other perspectives as to why those who advocate for accelerationism do so. Because from my current perspective, it's the stance of those who haven't been paying attention to either/and/or the easily distracted & complacent nature of our species/the level of general "not give a fuck" damn near ubiquitous amongst us right now.
Translation: I'm under the impression that I am more intelligent than I actually am.

Unless the accelerationism is ultimately to lead to a general atmosphere for a major trigger point that would cause Chimpamania on a very wide scale by a shutdown of bread & circus then all you're accomplishing is getting them all used to a new norm of general background noise that doesn't ultimately ever affect the vast majority enough at once to make them give a shit, and the bar for tolerance of it gets higher & higher & higher.
Thing is, thats is happening anyway.
What I don't get about anti-accelerationism people is, you act as though this shit isn't happening bereft of the acceleration, but that's the very point - it IS happening bereft of the acceleration, its happening at a slower pace which makes it EVEN EASIER to pull off what you're describing as far as incrementalism and adjustment goes.
So, basically, you have failed to demonstrate that you have ANY FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY to combat this situation in any way whatsoever. If left to your own devices, if the path simply continues at its intended pace, all information suggests nothing will change and you will simply allow yourself to disappear, so long as it is gradual - so long as you don't have to deal with the hardship of fixing it.
Rather, with accelerationism, you aren't given the choice of avoidance, you are not given the option of letting it happen incrementally, slowly, over a decade.
Its going to happen now. Its got to happen now.
Point being: You say that its a bad thing to try to make this shit happen now, while ignoring that the outcome by all indications is that it will happen later, and later there will be fewer White people, and it will have been EVEN MORE incrementalized to avoid too much disruption, so, basically, you come off as just wanting to be able to kick the can down the road awhile longer… The intention with accelerationism is to not give you that option.

The OTHER layer I see with this, is how do you accomplish accelerationism on the scale required to not only match but defeat the eternal, mythological merchant
Relatively easy, by the look of it.
without becoming exactly what they are but from a different perspective?
You've not demonstrated or elucidated upon any way in which this would transpire, or even what the fuck it means in your mind.

How do you get that genie back in the bottle?
What genie? The genie is the Enemy. Get it back in the bottle? There is no bottle to contain this Enemy, no bottle it will ALLOW itelf to be contained in. That's yet another point of demonstration that you have no fucking grasp as to what is happening around you.
Do we climb in the ovens afterward?
Why would we? Because we got the Enemy to demonstrate its intent, at an earlier, less-incrementalized point? That makes no sense.

We know our fucking nature, how can we guarantee whatever evolves out of its replacement, if built on the same methodologies
built on the same methodologies
Again, what are you even talking about here?

Is it more important to keep honor
To keep honor? Are you insane?
There is no honor in slavery my man. None.

Stand before the ghosts of a 500 million dead European souls and ask the void if your 'honor' matters. The silence is your answer.

The beginnings of this were all honesty & truth
I don't see how anything has changed.
Honesty is getting the Enemy to play their hand before they'd prefer to.
Truth is always Truth, nothing has changed there.

This CAN be won that way.
You don't even seem to have any concept of what is happening around you, let alone how to combat it.

To all the anti-accelerationists out there, I can only ask:
What is your alternative?
The answer, it seems, is always just some variety of "nothing of import, allowing me to kick the can down the road and permit the incrementalization of the same shit accelerationism would bring about sans such incrementalism, but without ME having to deal with the hardships of being forced to choose between enslavement and the temporary struggles of escaping enslavement".

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Carson Reed
Carson Reed

an effort to turn the masses against peaceful political change
This is so fucking laughable.

Peaceful political change? IN WHAT WORLD IS THAT FORTHCOMING!? Certainly not this one.

Its amazing to behold, these narratives.
I haven't accomplished anything politically in decades.
To the point the nation is on the verge of total demographic inversion.
The entire civilization is approaching this cliff-edge.
<But anyone or thing suggesting peaceful political action is not sufficient is just the jews bro!

Show me the outcomes of your peaceful political action.
Because the last 'accomplishment' was Donald Trump, wherein Zig Forums - and the majority of the US White population - got 100% rused the fuck out by zionist jews pushing honeyed words that bore no fruit.
And now here we are, with 2020 approaching, and your choices are "Continue to support the Zionist puppet which was used to deceive you (and which millions of your people still support blindly - a condition Zig Forums helped to create), or support a Marxist puppet which will seek to destroy you even as it fails to deceive you (and which millions of your people will clearly and immediately recognize as an Enemy).
Yet again, accelerationism is the only real option you leave on the table, because the alternative is EVEN WORSE in terms of likely outcome.

Thomas Rodriguez
Thomas Rodriguez

If the frog has no legs, then the game is over my man.
Prove me wrong.

I'm asking you to prove it can be done. I'm saying that the gods will actively stack events to where everyone fizzles out as a lone wolf.
And I'm asking you in turn to prove there is an alternative, besides embracing defeat or kicking the can down the road.
You know, an alternative that doesn't still end with you a slave.

What is your alternative to accelerationism?
Do you have any?
Because I've seen none from you in this thread.

Watch What Happens.
Checked for oh, its assholes and elbows.
Well of course you have nothing to offer but bitching. You never had anything more.

John Watson
John Watson

Accelerationisms greatest fault is the belief YOU will survive when its all over, that those implementing the fall aren't preparing for its outcome. That they aren't preparing for YOU.
Yes, all indicators suggest, by their own reasoning, if it comes to that, they lose, hands down.

WE MUST ORGANIZE WITHIN THE NEXT 5 YEARS OR WE WILL FACE ERADICATION.
Anti-accelerationist cucks make me laugh, almost as much as civnats.
Whereas civnats are a self-defeating meme, you are something else - you are a self-deluding meme.

Here's my view on civnats, and we'll come back to you in a moment:
I can't help but laugh at civic nationalism - its a self-defeating meme.

Look at the US.

We hear civic nationalists talking all about these Constitutional principles that they hold dear.
Freedom of speech. Right to bear arms. Limited government.
Yet these same civic nationalist principles, they claim, demand judgement on the basis of the individual only, not as collectives… Of course, their claims are somewhat suspect, given the men who derived those princples initially were slave owners and created the US as an explicit White ethnostate, but whatever.

The point is, this hyper-individualistic outlook forces them into a cognitive box, limiting the extent of their philosophical-willpower. It does so, in that it forces them to reject judgement in the context of racial groups as a collective, despite races acting as collectives.
For example: Hispanics support gun control (60%+ in favor, 30% against). And hate-speech laws (50%+ in favor, 25% against). And expanded government (70%+ in favor, 20% against). And Hispanics overwhelmingly identify with the left-wing political parties (60%+, increasingly from generation to generation after entry to the country to upwards of 70% by the 2nd generation). AND Hispanics demonstrate an elevated fertility rate relative to White populations in the US (still above replacement levels).

Thus, by upholding civic nationalist principles in judging Hispanics as individuals instead of as a group, many Hispanics would be (and have been) allowed into the country - for example in the amnesty of Ronald Reagan - despite the fact that collectively they do not believe in the principles upon which the nation was founded… Not that they would say as much if attempting to gain entry - deception exists, and civic nationalist arguments as-goes vetting procedures are underwhelming, nevermind the prospect of enforcement of civic values after entry (let alone over generations).

And this last point about enforcement is important, because evidence suggests that, like most ethnic/racial minorities in the US, Hispanics do not demonstrate a collective belief in the civic principles of the US (certainly not to the proportional degree seen in US Whites), but they DO behave as a collective, supporting left-wing political groups in overwhelming majority. Those promoting civic nationalist ideals do not demonstrate the philosophical-willpower to enforce these civic values, have offered no methodology to alter this condition, and all indications suggest they are bereft of such a method - if they were not, the populations which have been in the US for several generations, exposed to the values of the country and civic nationalists' arguments in that vein, would espouse those positions, but they do not.

Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

While on the subject… Why do Hispanics support left-wing groups? Are they actually more left-wing in political view? Yes, but that's not the whole story - they vote as a collective, and they do so to serve collective interests. Left-wing groups in the US are the groups in favor of serving the left-wing predispositions of Hispanics (hate-speech laws, gun control, expanding government with more programs) as well as increased immigration, which they promote loudly, and increased immigration leads to an increase in population for the respective ethnic/racial minority in question, which in turn leads to an increase in the political power, electorally at the very least, wielded by that ethnic/racial minority. Hence, regardless of their political stance, Hispanics support left-wing groups as a collective to serve collective interest. We see the same sort of behavior on behalf of Blacks and other non-Whites.
In fact, we see the same sort of behavior on behalf of Asians, who also primarily support left-wing groups in the US (50%+, increasing generationally), even though polling of their political views suggest they may not actually be left-wing politically - they're merely acting as a collective in serving their collective interest.

Left-wing groups are, for whatever reason (ideology, personal desire for power or wealth, etc), very happy to assist in this endeavor, and in fact, the left-wing political party of the modern US is an amalgam of minority groups acting collectively in their own interest despite an absence of shared political belief betwixt the tribes. They are, effectively, a collective composed of collectives, each acting to serve their own interests, and a great deal of their effort is maintained in securing each individual collective's support and avoiding conflict among those groups where their perceived collective interests conflict. Further, these left-wing groups - aided by left-wing political/social organizations (several particularly influential examples bearing an overt Jewish composition or philosophy) - explicitly advocate for, and support the explicit advocacy of, the respective non-White minority collectives, whilst simultaneously doing everything in their power to silence, slander, demonize and deplatform any and all explicit White advocacy groups through accusation of association with 'racism', 'White supremacy', 'Nazism' and/or 'anti-Semitism', amongst others.

That is to say, the left-wing in the US, particularly the influential Jewish wing, advocates against explicit White advocacy. Which is why no such explicit White advocacy organizations exist in the US today which are not so slandered, and certainly none which exhibit institutional power and perceived legitimacy as might be claimed on behalf of other ethnic/racial groups' equivalents (the latter of which often exhibiting a far more seedy character than the former).
Ironically, this seems to form a neat little circle for the left-wing (especially Jewish) actors: by advocating against White advocacy and White advocates using accusations such as 'racism' or 'White supremacy', Jewish left-wing organizations create anti-semitic sentiment in White advocates and White advocacy organizations, which those same left-wing Jewish organizations then utilize to further slander them through accusation of 'anti-semitism' or 'Nazism'!
Its important to note that the left-wing political factions and their accomplice political organizations in the US also employ such accusations in opposition to any efforts to inhibit left-wing political aims at increasing immigration into the US from non-White sources, promoting globalist multiculturalism and miscegenation, and degrading national borders, even national sovereignty.

Lincoln Hughes
Lincoln Hughes

The left-wing has been so successful in their efforts in this regard, that the US population demographics are beginning to disintegrate. The White population - the only population which demonstrates anything close to majority support for the ideals which civic nationalists claim to hold most dear - is being displaced.

What conclusion do we reach from such analysis of circumstance?
We can discern that the civic nationalist position is philosophically-unequipped to combat this hazard, in that their civic nationalist ideals demand they make judgements on strictly individual grounds such as to ignore ethnic/racial behavioral trends. They will thus seek to argue in favor of judging a long line of individuals, as individuals, on principle, who can and will present themselves as sharing a belief in the principles civic nationalists claim to seek to uphold if such is required to gain entry to the country, and who will subsequently act collectively in their own interests once in the US such as to create new demographic conditions within the US that are no longer fertile substrate for the individual - and thereby societal - espousal of civic nationalists' proposed ideals.

tl;dr: Non-Whites don't care about civic duties or virtues, they act as collectives to serve collective interests, and civic nationalists do not have any mechanism at their disposal to change, nor combat, this state of affairs, even as they vehemently protest, on the basis of their civic nationalist principles, White advocates attempting such a feat. These civic nationalists are thus demonstrating that they are operating from an obsolete playbook, attempting to espouse civic nationalist ideals of individualism that were only able to be maintained in homogenous White nations bereft of competition from myriad non-White collectives (each serving their own interests), and yet, despite this failure, demonstrable throughout electoral politics in the US (and the West overall) over the last 30+ years, civic nationalists continue to suggest the old playbook is valid. The conclusion is thus that, if civic nationalists are allowed to attempt to carry out their proposed policies in the US, there will cease to exist a substrate for civic nationalists' beloved Constitutional principles and these principles will cease to exist in application in the US. Self-defeating meme.

Bentley Diaz
Bentley Diaz

Now, what does this have to do with you?
Well, civnats are a self-defeating meme, in that their ideals put in practice bring about their own demise.
You, on the other hand, are a self-deluding meme, in that you call for actions which you are utterly bereft of the capacity to achieve.

You call for organization. To what end?
You do not have the demographic weight to carry elections alone, not anymore, and when it comes to this paradigm:
<That is to say, the left-wing in the US, particularly the influential Jewish wing, advocates against explicit White advocacy. Which is why no such explicit White advocacy organizations exist in the US today which are not so slandered, and certainly none which exhibit institutional power and perceived legitimacy as might be claimed on behalf of other ethnic/racial groups' equivalents (the latter of which often exhibiting a far more seedy character than the former).
you are the main event: You simultaneously call for immediate organization, yet you don't seem to acknowledge that - due to having failed to effectively combat the central pillar of our Enemies' overarching narratives, the demonization of the German National Socialists - you have no capacity to organize, because the very concept of White advocacy that you speak of in terms of "organization" is advocated AGAINST to such a degree, and to such effect, that you have no ability to form advocacy groups/platforms which are not totally hollowed out below the surface, ala Turning Point USA and the like.

How can you possibly hope to organize a resistance to these conditions, via peaceful political ends, when you can't even manage to establish a peaceful political platform for the most basic form of White advocacy?
This is the very problem that accelerationism acknowledges - you are toothless, clawless, you have completely lost your place on the big board of societal conflict.
And a beast that loses its fangs is going to wind up dead.

So here you are, and we're saying "We need to push this further, and WE don't have the means to make moves, thus our best bet is to make THEM make the moves they'd like to make tomorrow, the day after, the day after that, TODAY, without the slow incrementalism that will make it EVEN EASIER for this shit to slip by without any true resistance", and you reply "We just need to organize and we need to do it now!", and as an accelerationist, I can only look at you, somewhat dumbfounded: Its like you have no grasp of the reality around you whatsoever.
You're rolling around on the ground, toothless, clawless, screech about how we just need to use our teeth and claws to establish a foothold, how the Enemy is aware of our intentions and prepared for such… Its like you never once considered that we're also preparing for them.
And considering that all indicators suggest the Enemy has concluded that, should it come to Swords, the people of the Pen (and their servants) will lose, HANDILY, to our own people of the Sword, well… I'm inclined to think their preparations either aren't going so well, or, having gone fine, are simply insufficient to save them, no matter how much they prepare.

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Michael Walker
Michael Walker

optics cuckery
Optics was never part of my concern. Only those trying to virtue signal worry about fucking optics & outside perception to the degree of making it the deciding factor in itself. My concern was objective, overall right/wrong good/evil; maintaining of the high ground.
While still understanding necessity of it being an "honor among thieves" mentality necessary to win.

Lot of people gave me a lot of good responses I will gladly (You), when I have the time to focus on this.

Noah Sanders
Noah Sanders

My concern was objective, overall right/wrong good/evil; maintaining of the high ground.
What is morality, but a mechanism to ensure the survival and prosperity of your kind?

Sounds like your problem is, your morals are fucking trash. Which is kind of how we got to where we are today.

I do not concern myself with honor where my opposition is undeserving of honor - you don't show honor to a dishonorable foe, unless you are ascribing to the morals of cuckoldry, and I do not.

Josiah Taylor
Josiah Taylor

It's total (ideological) war. No quarter expected nor given. Elections and the 'Rule of Law' have been revealed to mean exactly fuck all.

Juan Stewart
Juan Stewart

Why should we hold to any moral system that regards our extinction as an acceptable outcome?

Thomas Cooper
Thomas Cooper

checked

Meh. I'm an accelerationist, but I think copycatting Tarrant is the wrong way to go about it. Zig Forums is more effective as puppeteers than as puppets, and it seems to me that the Tarrantposting is too prolific and well organized to be organic. Obvious astroturf is obvious. I see the same high pressure sales tactics and specious arguments that were used to shill for Trump, combined with nihilism, blackpilling, and jewish supremacism to create a sense of desperation and urgency.

I ain't buyin' it. Especially since I'm confident we'll have French levels of civil strife, here in burgerstan, within the next two years. Throw your life away in some futile, quixotic, attention whoring gesture if you must, but you can count me out.

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Ryder Davis
Ryder Davis

nihilism, blackpilling, and jewish supremacism to create a sense of desperation and urgency.

Holy shit, This. Things are really bad but it's not like Sauron has subdued all of Middle Earth just yet.
And not everyone is a fucking jew for fuck's sake.

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

Serving the people
But that is the same as turning "the people" into a god. This is why i'm not a nationalist. I don't want to turn "the people" or "the nation" into a fetish to bow down before. Although i do think it is the duty of a ruler to serve, but to serve the Lord, not "the people". Obviously doesn't mean the ruler should transgress against his own people but in a healthy state, for the ruler to serve the people is quite apparently a reversal of proper hierarchical relations. The supreme ruler answers only to the Lord / to the gods.

Asher Gutierrez
Asher Gutierrez

Things are really bad
Nope. Would it surprise you if I told you that, minus a few minor events, things have gone almost exactly as I expected? I've never been more whitepilled than I am now.

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Joseph Flores
Joseph Flores

Meine Ehre heißt Treue (pronounced [ˌmaɪnə ˈʔeːʁə haɪst ˈtʁɔʏə]; "My honour is called loyalty") is the motto of the former National Socialist organization, the Schutzstaffel (SS).

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Asher Bell
Asher Bell

Please share with us the reason of you being so whitepilled user.

Matthew Gonzalez
Matthew Gonzalez

See pic related @

Tyler Hall
Tyler Hall

Did your enemy fight with honor to gain the power to subvert you? Did he gain his positions honorably and then awarded others their positions as such? Are their ultimate plans honorable?

It's time we start putting aside these petty ideals of "honor". Our enemy has no honor and that's why he'll win every time. Being honorable is bringing a sword to a gunfight, meanwhile our enemy brings a minigun.

We are at the end of our rope user. And if you truly knew just how terrible the enemy's plans are you would quickly discard all notions of this concept. Or is it God that you fear? Will God punish us for fighting what is right, all because we have achieved it through harsh methods? What is the death of one innocent soul compared to a thousand? And what is the death of a thousand compared to 7 billion? Or, if the plans fail, would you then be liable to judgment for your failure to complete the task? Do not assume God Almighty, creator of all that has ever been is unreasonable; His cleverness knows no bounds.

So the question is all that remains: Will you fight, severely outnumbered and outgunned, clinging to rules of chivalry that your enemy scoffs at, or will you do what is necessary not just for your people, but for all those who want to live in a just society free of tyranny?

Blake Smith
Blake Smith

Make eco fascism and white interest mainstream by means of a cultural icon (musician?) outside of msm — alt media so as to be able to exercise complete free speech.. have a positive, pro white message accepted by masses

Start forming building blocks of an ethno state, draw a line shitskins cannot cross

Expel non whites from every western nation

Gas the kikes

Dominic White
Dominic White

Post that image of hitler arguing with a kike in mein kampf for lurkers.

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Leo Watson
Leo Watson

WE need to access the incredible amount of CAPITAL that is available to groups with a promise or effective demonstration of efficacy in the movement that is OUR struggle.
In short a individual/group needs to step forward with the incrediblle sophictication at thier disposal to create/disemninate and FUND a MARTYRDOM fund that will disperse an amount of cryptocurrency to a designated wallet upon completion of an event.
This is a direct imitation of the very effective strategy that wealthy Islamic's employed to "motivate the VOLUNTEERS" who moved forward with meeting their fate(The Northmen both marveled at the tapestry they believed to have been woven by the Norns, but also dared to conquer the hand they were dealt. This belief system helped define the ferocious spirit that fueled them in battle, and thus their conquering of lands and cultures.)

Easton Martinez
Easton Martinez

When was it ever legal you absolute pussy?

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David Sullivan
David Sullivan

Hasbara, /leftypol/, and antifa are leading you Ironderpers around by the nose, and you're completely oblivious to the fact. Doctine, dogma and pedantry are no substitute for brains, subtlety and creativity. Nobody is giving you a dime, blockhead.

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Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

Call me naive for recognizing that when the tower crumbles, those below it will be crushed, including you, laughing at those trying to tell everyone to run away from it. I'm fairly young, entering the prime of my life, watching western civilization crumble in front of my face from the broken promises of those elected by, what I presume to be, your generation. I'm being whisked along this disgusting merry-go-round by forces I was unable to influence. I never had a say and I refuse to die without at least putting up a fight. Sure, my naivety allows me to forego what you see as obvious, but goddamn it, I cannot sit here any longer knowing that I will be a target, knowing full well I will die without making an impact.

Okay, so for shits, lets play out your grand scenario then. Lets let (((them))) push the buttons for a while, disarm the populace, completely remove our divine rights, allow complete demographic shifts, allow cultural eradication. What will be left? Do you think any white people will be left standing? Do you think anyone will remember our plan for an ideal way of life? Of course not, because nothing will crumble except our institutions, only the ones we hold dear, just as our ideals have begun to topple now. They will simply replace them like post-modern architecture, a sad shell of its former self, a façade for a grotesque mutilation. We are being raped, no question about it, and what your telling the rapist to do is to grab his buddy, add the extra cock, and completely tear your asshole in the hope that fucking you any longer becomes impossible out of disgust or lack of function. The end of acclerationism requires there to be someone left to remember the past. I know there will be nothing left of recognition once our society of present comes to a close. You're pessimistic about our present and future, while having hope for a sort of post-future. Can't you see the futility of this when theres no one left to remember the past?

All of this assumes the acceleration actually occurs at all, which it won't. Look who thought of the idea in the first place, that fucking kike Marx. It never worked for communism and it will never work for us. You are going to let the enemy ruin everything we built because you trust in an idea broken from its inception, and thought up by a kike no less? Amazing. You faggots never cease to astound me, LARPing to the very end. Just hand over the keys to them at the gate why don't you.

About peaceful political platforms, the time for all that has come and gone. Violence is the only answer. As I said, the normals will become our enemies if they so choose. Traitors to the race are traitors, fullstop.
Look at what one white guy in New Zealand did.
Look at what one white guy in Oklahoma City did.
Imagine what a thousand of us could do together.

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

Who cares if you have honor without race?
<Surely history books will vindicate us when they see we committed racial suicide gracefully and with honor, t. faggot OP.
Just go fuck yourself. Lurk before posting and think twice before making worthless threads you double nigger.

Charles Williams
Charles Williams

A new Hitler is building momentum.

Xavier Murphy
Xavier Murphy

The only acceptable kind of accelerationism is going after the people who deserve it. Vote from the rooftops, stupid fucks. Never send a fucking Zig Forumstard to do a man's job. I hate you all.

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Noah Carter
Noah Carter

donate sperm
allow several wives
tax deduction to families with more than 4 kids
stop immigration
kick out anyone without european citizenship

anything else?

Jace Smith
Jace Smith

I posit that the frog has no legs, that your acceleration will only mean we'll all die out faster and that no revolution will come. Just Keep Accelerating and you'll either prove me right, or you'll win.

Are you going to keep going?

Asher Rodriguez
Asher Rodriguez

All of that will simply be co-opted by ZOG or not allowed. How do you propose to even enact that?

Tyler Johnson
Tyler Johnson

Good. Everyone hates everyone. Nobody loves anyone. Samson Looms.

Bentley Gutierrez
Bentley Gutierrez

You hope too much.

Go ahead and do something then. Watch What Happens. Do you honestly think that ZOG won't just kill us all for shits anyways?

Cooper Mitchell
Cooper Mitchell

Asses and Elbows please go

Ian Ross
Ian Ross

You. Can't.

All cultural output is kiked.

Gabriel Cox
Gabriel Cox

Never. I'll continue to be right, and I'll continue to scream until someone finally helps me discover the secrets I need to destroy souls entirely.

Carson Walker
Carson Walker

13150242
The only thing you've ever been right about is that you should kill yourself.

Nicholas Barnes
Nicholas Barnes

Dubs confirm

Benjamin Smith
Benjamin Smith

47! I get this meme now.

David Garcia
David Garcia

13150254
Nope. Notice how I got dubs and you didn't.

Luke Diaz
Luke Diaz

You mean this?

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Jack Edwards
Jack Edwards

I don't care about being superior or supreme. I don't care if we are a lesser race in comparison to out enemies. It is my race. I want to survive. I want to win. It's not about being better than them, it's about not losing to them. If my race was the worst thing to happen to the planet that does not change my goal. I love my race, and that's all that matters.

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Oliver Flores
Oliver Flores

You always have something to lose. Things can always get worse. Loss is Infinite.

Leo Rodriguez
Leo Rodriguez

You're retarded. If you even START trying to "play the same game as the Enemy" they'll just nuke the world. There is no fighting back. There is no resistance. There is nothing else but Eternal Misery and the Promise of Samson.

Ashes and Echoes

Hudson Lee
Hudson Lee

Honor is dead. There is only Eternal Misery.

Jose Cook
Jose Cook

Nobody is any good. You. CANNOT. CONTROL. ANYTHING. LIKE. THE. KIKES. DO.

Liam Jenkins
Liam Jenkins

You can't accelerate the boil to get the frog to jump out of the pot. The frog has no legs.

True. That's why it's always Misery. Good things don't happen.

Okay. Go ahead and fight back. I dare you to go full Tarrant right now and post pics here when you're done. Watch What Happens. Tell me how many whites you'll save.

Jackson Price
Jackson Price

You will also die there. As will everyone else. Go ahead and accelerate right off that cliff there, Thelma and Louise. I Dare You.

Aiden Reed
Aiden Reed

The frog has no legs, and the floor is lava.

If you make up shit, you can sit there forever.

Blake Ward
Blake Ward

*accelerate*

Daniel Bailey
Daniel Bailey

You cannot educate non-whites.

Non whites don't understand debt. They see shiny toys = wealth. Stop deradicalizing.

You're a retarded man. Go back to whatever place you came from and enact your strategy there. you'll find no purchase here.

Ashes and Echoes

Wyatt Long
Wyatt Long

Well? Show me something different. Prove me wrong IRL and go Full Tarrant right now. What are you waiting for? Why haven't you mashed the gas pedal yet?

Lucas Kelly
Lucas Kelly

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Levi Walker
Levi Walker

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Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

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Caleb Thomas
Caleb Thomas

Nobody is going to follow you faggotron.

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Liam Flores
Liam Flores

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Wyatt Campbell
Wyatt Campbell

So let's hear how you struggled with addiction and never cared about whites until Germany was being raped by muslims on New Year's Eve. Let's hear about how retarded you are. How you refused to notice what was in front of you until recently. How you shilled to me for violence and now shill here for "educated behavior."

Owen Foster
Owen Foster

Again, go ahead and accelerate. Please do. Why haven't you gone full Tarrant yet?

Juan Hill
Juan Hill

9 posts in a row
Asses and Elbows please go

Wyatt Hernandez
Wyatt Hernandez

You can call it whatever you want, you still hope too much. Fate is Eternal Misery. That's our fate, their fate and everyone else's in between. There is nothing else. Only Eternal Misery.

Sebastian Wood
Sebastian Wood

No. I'm right and you know it. Why haven't you mashed your gas pedal yet?

Charles Ortiz
Charles Ortiz

I'm right and you know it
Please see

Cooper Wilson
Cooper Wilson

TheGreatShiniGami
God you're gay

Andrew Jones
Andrew Jones

Meh. Nobody really cares. I'm not the one who's claiming to try to "influence" anons to follow his violent/non-violent accelerationism plans. Moarpheus is an active shill. I'm just a screamer that nobody takes seriously.

Again: Major General Jack Weinstein still controls US Nuclear Command. Trump loves Jews so much he'll nuke the world if they order him to, which is what will happen when whites fight back too hard. So, again: Go ahead. Why haven't you mashed your gas pedal yet? Why aren't you going Full Tarrant right now?

Parker King
Parker King

See, in all his chats to me, it was implied that Moarpheus was wanting Accelerationism as in violence. Read through those discord messages.

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

Moarpheus is an active shill
So are you

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

What am I shilling for then? I'm not telling you to just lay down and die. I'm daring you to prove to me that you can do anything else.

Alexander Cox
Alexander Cox

I'm not telling you to just lay down and die
There is no fighting back. There is no resistance.

Sorry, but I can read.

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

I'm stating what is. If you want to prove me wrong, you're more than welcome to. But, I doubt you can.

Why haven't you gone Full Tarrant yet?

Nolan Sanchez
Nolan Sanchez

Me? I don't care. I wanna watch the world burn. Why haven't you?

Nathan Hughes
Nathan Hughes

If you're good at something, never do it for free. If you're bad at something; don't do it at all. I'm bad at everything, so I haven't gone Full Tarrant because I know I can't. I wouldn't be good enough at it, so it'd be a waste and a failure.

Zachary Martin
Zachary Martin

OP is a moralfag

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Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

What a lame excuse. You're "bad" because you don't try to get good. At least I admit I want everything to burn. You're just weak.

Jeremiah Rivera
Jeremiah Rivera

I have tried to get good. Every Effort Always Fails. I've always been weak. I've never been strong. Every Effort Always Fails. My results prove me right. If you want to prove me wrong, meet me at Red Mile Racetrack in Lexington, KY and help me kill myself in person. Don't you want to watch the world burn?

Christopher Flores
Christopher Flores

I dont give a fuck about you or anyone else. The active word is "watch"

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

You make a good point. However I can't see a better alternative than trying to bring a shock to the system OODA loop style. Truth is of course the best way forward, but until things get bad enough the people won't have any impulse to turn to it.

Jaxon Price
Jaxon Price

They'll just nuke the world
Let them, do they think they can hope to hold any semblance of power in the ashes?
There is no fighting back
We've already won, National Socialism is the natural state of man. If they nuke the world this will only bring this truth to the surface. Those who fall behind will be fodder for the Übermensch that rise up out of the hard times.
There is no resistance
You're incredibly naive, even for a shill.
There is nothing else but Eternal Misery and the Promise of Samson.
Your infrastructure is falling apart, if you think you can still rely on antiquated fail-deadly systems you have sub nigger IQ.

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Cooper Baker
Cooper Baker

<TheGreatShiniGami
harry potter political fanfiction and that antifaggot discord leak are the only things that show up

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Julian Torres
Julian Torres

Boop:

zigforums.com/thread/13154634/politics

Joseph Lee
Joseph Lee

Bump for a moralizing, great post. Thank you user.

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