Lord of the Rings analogy thread

Charles Roberts
Charles Roberts

Since the muslims love analogy on this board, let's have a factual analogy thread.

Yids = Sauron & his lieutenant, Nazgul.
Muslim/shitskins = orcs.

You can't kill Sauron and their lieutenant, Nazgul and ignore the orcs, and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.

But putting into muslim context, they would say if killing the orcs fits Sauron's plan for 4D chess into forming a war between orcs vs humans, never mind that that war is already here, and happens a long time.

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Owen Green
Owen Green

Orcs racially have lost their inheritance and thus must be enemies of the humans.

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Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

Humans: Orcs just do something!
Orcs: No, it's the Nazgul, orcs dindu nuffin.

It's not exclusive, it's the nazgul who tells orcs to do that exact thing. Both are guilty.

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

why do you want to spoil a fairy tale, analožid?

Daniel Gomez
Daniel Gomez

Another analogy:

Orcs occupy Gondor.
If humans fight back, humans are gonna be exterminated.
So what's the solution? Humans must kill Sauron, somehow re-take Gondor and then peacefully deport the orcs.

Evan Martin
Evan Martin

Nigger what?

Kevin Morgan
Kevin Morgan

The great battle of our time.

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Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

You can't kill Sauron and their lieutenant, Nazgul and ignore the orcs

Except that's literally what happened.

and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.

Great idea user, let us ignore the Jews.

Owen Fisher
Owen Fisher

Except that's literally what happened.
Really? Did Gondor open their gates and welcome the orc refugees when the orcs invade Minas Tirith?
Great idea user, let us ignore the Jews.
Which is what I said, right?

Are you an orc?

Wyatt White
Wyatt White

Also, why did the battle of the Black Gate happens then?

Just kill Sauron, bro, why did Aragorn and his gang bother killing orcs at the Black Gate? Doing that will just let the orcs have reasons to exterminate the humans right?

Why?

Jeremiah Reyes
Jeremiah Reyes

and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
without ignoring Sauron.
ignoring Sauron.

Jaxon Bennett
Jaxon Bennett

and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
without ignoring Sauron
Can you read English?

Does Sauron trigger you?

Elijah Ramirez
Elijah Ramirez

Also, answer this question:
Really? Did Gondor open their gates and welcome the orc refugees when the orcs invade Minas Tirith?

Answer it.

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

It was not possible to kill Sauron because as you know, he was not inhabiting a material body during the movies. Sauron was bound to the tower in Mordor where he exerted his influence without himself taking on a material form… He was only banished when the Ring was destroyed.

Henry Anderson
Henry Anderson

Yo, it's totally possible to kill Sauron, just drop the ring into Mount Doom bro.

Just like bringing a rifle into Israel and kill all the zionist jews.

Just do it, bro, why don't you do it?

Why fight orcs at all when you can kill Sauron?

Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson

Can you read English?
Does Sauron trigger you?

Are you literally retarded mate?

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Henry Adams
Henry Adams

and you can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron.
Are you?

Again, can you read English?

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

The Ring does not represent "the zionist jews", that's obviously absurd. The Ring is a powerful magic tool that was forged by Sauron to dominate all life, and tends to corrupt the person wielding it. So if I would compare the Ring to anything in the real world it would probably be Money, or Power in a more general sense.

John Gray
John Gray

And this question was not answered:

Really? Did Gondor open their gates and welcome the orc refugees when the orcs invade Minas Tirith?

Why did Gondor bother fighting the orcs, once you kill Sauron, the orcs are gonna peacefully deported.

Answer this question please.

Jonathan Brown
Jonathan Brown

Inoperable, this one.

can't kill the orcs without ignoring Sauron

What you're saying retard, is that the only way to kill the orcs is ignoring Sauron. Learn to read you fucking imbecile.

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Samuel Thomas
Samuel Thomas

The ring = Sauron = jews.

They serve as the puppeters behind the scene and even use the same corruption power to corrupt humans i.e. wealth and power i.e. nazgul = shabbo goys.

The comparison fits perfectly.

You just are in denial that the task to kill Sauron is as hard as killing all jews in Israel from the get go.

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

What I meant to say is that you cannot kill the orcs by ignoring Sauron.

Jason Parker
Jason Parker

I liken the ents to mobile nigger hanging gallows. kek

Noah Powell
Noah Powell

I'm not that guy, but that is pretty much the same symbolism you see in the movie, when Sauron is defeated the earth swallows up and all the Orcs fall into the pit.

Kind of agree, but the Ring is not literally Sauron, the Ring was a tool made by Sauron to dominate the world. Especially remember that the Nazguls were originally good kings that Sauron corrupted by giving them lesser rings of power (That were in secret subservient to the One ring that Sauron kept from himself in secret).

Also, Sauron is an entity which as we know, does not necessarily take a material form, so he cannot represent the actual jewish people but he could represent their god Jehovah, maybe.

Christopher Cook
Christopher Cook

Just kill em all m8

Bentley Long
Bentley Long

Yes , he could rep jehovah - also he could represent the archons that infest the “brain” of the jew
I use “” cause I’m not 100% sure they have a human brain in there.

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

I'm not that guy, but that is pretty much the same symbolism you see in the movie, when Sauron is defeated the earth swallows up and all the Orcs fall into the pit.
Once again, please answer the question:
Really? Did Gondor open their gates and welcome the orc refugees when the orcs invade Minas Tirith?

Provided orcs occupy Minas Tirith, does that mean when they kill Sauron, the earth is gonna automatically swallow up every orcs in Minas Tirith?
Kind of agree, but the Ring is not literally Sauron, the Ring was a tool made by Sauron to dominate the world.
Wrong, the Ring has an aspect of Sauron, which is why its ultimate goal is going back to Sauron and no one else.
Especially remember that the Nazguls were originally good kings that Sauron corrupted by giving them lesser rings of power
And lo and behold, they become servants of Sauron.
Also, Sauron is an entity which as we know, does not necessarily take a material form, so he cannot represent the actual jewish people but he could represent their god Jehovah, maybe.
Sauron HAD an actual physical form, but he was banished once when the ring was taken from his finger.

He's a perfect representation of the jew, even make more sense considering he's a fallen god, like how jews are cursed by gods.

Andrew Walker
Andrew Walker

I didn't know the ring has an aspect of Sauron, that's cool to know, but why do you keep asking this question:

Really? Did Gondor open their gates and welcome the orc refugees when the orcs invade Minas Tirith?

It sounds comical at this point.

Connor Bennett
Connor Bennett

Checked. He only lost it by an act of desperation when Isildur used the busted end of his fathers’ sword. The greed of the sauron/jew will be their eternal downfall. Sauron was reaching out for his final coup de grace and isildur had an ace up his sleeve
Zig Forums is the shard that will save the white race and life is fucking absurd

Ryder Reed
Ryder Reed

Because that's the exact argument some muslims here are arguing.

Muslims are actually peaceful, just let them in and once you remove the jews, they are gonna peacefully leave.

By LOTR context, this means:

Orcs are actually peaceful, just let them in, once you kill jews, they are gonna peacefully leave.

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

It's not just Sauron.

A big part of LOTR is human greed for the Ring.

Isildur doomed his generation by greedily taking the ring.

Just like how white men doomed their generation by enabling jews, and it takes hundreds of years before humans can regain their former selves.

LOTR is prophetic.

Ryan Morgan
Ryan Morgan

Can’t risk it brother. They could regroup if they were allowed to leave and the Uruk-hai could act as commanders enough to send waves of orcs back in after a sufficient rebuilding time. It would be most prudent to wipe them all out and leave none left

Sebastian Adams
Sebastian Adams

Too true user
So…….Gollum is 4cuck then kek

Isaac Robinson
Isaac Robinson

That's the point.

The muslims in this context say Sauron leads the orcs in, so orcs dindu nuffin and deserve the same respect as humans, or rather just victims.

Never mind the raid, the rape and robbery that orcs have done upon humans.

Brandon Bailey
Brandon Bailey

If I understood it correctly the orcs are made by Sauron like a genetic experiment, they are not normal creatures like the other races such as hobbits, men and elves but were created to suit Sauron's purposes of domination. They are evil because they don't really have any form of moral code (they fight each other all the time for example, they don't just hate men). So the orcs would ideally not exist in middle earth at all but they aren't themselves responsible for being the way they are, it is Sauron who made them that way to use as cannon fodder pretty much.

Asher Watson
Asher Watson

You would not that muslims would not exist at all if not for perversion of abrahamic religion.

They are a cursed existence, a cancer upon the land. Just like their creator i.e. Sauron/the jew.

And they actually believe themselves to be smarter and holi-er than humans in a twisted way (true for both orcs and muslims).

Jace Bailey
Jace Bailey

Checked. They also cut down the trees user. The trees are a friend to the races of hobbits men and elves. The orcs and archons are terrified of trees and groves

Isaiah Cox
Isaiah Cox

Gandalf is battling the balrog on his way down right this second. May Glamdring remain eternally sharp

Owen Collins
Owen Collins

Watch this

Ethan Myers
Ethan Myers

nobody argues that the msulims are peaceful though, some argue they are lesser threats or shoud be targeted seccond , which i dont agree with completly

Elijah Martin
Elijah Martin

Muslims seriously argue they are and will peacefully deport once jews are killed.

Yes, seriously.

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

This isn't 2013, faggot. Trying to hide subtle memes in pop culture references is beyond irrelevant.
Why do you "do nothing ever" shills and low T aut-right faggots INSIST on refocusing all efforts and attempts at action toward "make MEMES"?

Caleb Brown
Caleb Brown

why is an american pretending to be indian

Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson

Tolkien
pop culture
While muh symptom muh cause analogy is okay.

No, it's not okay.

Tolkien books are analogy of history.

Ethan Sanders
Ethan Sanders

The charge of the rohirrim actually happened. Lobieski for win.

Caleb King
Caleb King

Just search for Daily Gondor
/thread

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Jonathan Torres
Jonathan Torres

Did Gondor open their gates and welcome the orc refugees when the orcs invade Minas Tirith?
No. But France did.

Landon Nguyen
Landon Nguyen

Yids = Sauron & his lieutenant, Nazgul.
Muslim/shitskins = orcs.
You could just read the notes and other writing by J.R.R. Tolkien. He explains who each fictional race is supposed to represent; as the entire Lord of the Rings story is a fantasy analogy of WW1 to help his son understand what he went through during the war.

Lucas Morris
Lucas Morris

[Citation needed]

Jace Wright
Jace Wright

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Jaxson Allen
Jaxson Allen

Fuck off back to reddit.

James Jones
James Jones

someone make a meme vid where the uruks march upon helms deep and cut to the guy who earlier screamed open the gate for the elves then cut back again to the uruks breaching the gate then cue the swedish anthem

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

Orcs were made by Morgoth as a perversion of elves.
Without Morgoth, or someone using Morgoth's taint of Arda (like Sauron), the Orcs become nothing but a pestering thing at the edge of civilization.
So ultimately, to answer the other guy's question, I'd say you CAN ignore muzzies. Without the kikes they're nothing and easy to remove. We aren't holding them at the gates. They're past the gates. Once Sauron's gone what need be done is turn the army around and cleanse then out of Minas Tirith.
At least, that is assuming we keep the LOTR analogy. I don't agree you can ignore them because even were the kikes removed, muzzies aint orcs in that they can operate without Sauron. And Jews aint Sauron. Both are Men. Evil Men under the shadow of the Shadow no doubt, but merely Men. Sauron is gone. So is Morgoth. Kikes and muzzies are both another manifestation of Morgoth's taint upon Arda. The evil is, unfortunately, formless, and there is no great Enemy anymore. All that there is is Men, and their willingness to refuse the evil. We are those that come from the Edain, so we more often know the right path. That is all we have. The good and the evil and our own sense to know which is which.

Charles Hall
Charles Hall

ts not much if a secret user.

Isaiah Sanchez
Isaiah Sanchez

The master ring is (((global banking))) (ie: the IMF, World Bank, etc).
The rings of power are all of the national and federal banks (Federal Reserve, Bank of England, EU Bank, etc)
The rings of power were distributed in an attempt to enslave the races of Middle earth.
The national and federal banks were designed to enslave the countries of the world.

I genuinely wonder if these kinds of allegories aren't by design. This shit fits so well.

Elijah King
Elijah King

implying LOTR is owned by Reddit
Sorry kike, LOTR is the white man's epic. And it is all the more powerful now than its ever been due to the situation across the world.

Anthony Foster
Anthony Foster

I forget who, I want to say Treebeard or Gandalf, but in the discussion of what the uruks are, you could swear Tolkein was a Zig Forumsack ripping apart racemixing. I hated how the movies made Aragorn out to be a wuss. In the very first chapter they meet him, he swears he'll be king and the sword that was broken remade. They deliberately changed that, so he would appear weak-willed and conflicted, when the only conflict he had was whether he lead the fellowship in the right direction.

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

The Ring is meant to be Power. Read Tolkien's letter included in most editions of the Silmarillion for more details, but Power is basically subcreation perverted to be about domination of others and self gain and greed.
Reckless industry, governmental power, and yes, unrestrained banks. It is all of those things.

Austin Adams
Austin Adams

At the end of ROTK the hobbits go back to the shire and find it has been destroyed and their people enslaved by saruman and his bandits, another problem we could encounter. Letting lesser evils slip through the cracks - cannot happen.

Samuel White
Samuel White

So ultimately, to answer the other guy's question, I'd say you CAN ignore muzzies.
Yeah, let's just ignore orcs.

The Battle of the Pelonnor Field, the siege of Minas Tirith, all pointless, just open the gates and let orcs in.

Once Frodo throws the Ring at Mount Doom, the orcs will peacefully disperse and we can retake Gondor.

This is how stupid you sound, even using LOTR analogy.

Lincoln Stewart
Lincoln Stewart

It's just a '50s Christian reinterpretation of the Anglo-Saxon era. It's not that special aside from the language creation. Tolkien's study of linguistics may be impressive, but I'm not so sure his world/mythos couldn't be outdone by someone else given the time and effort.

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Austin Morales
Austin Morales

Just never let Sauron convince you he can you from the orcs.

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Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

Funny, because that's what he did with Boromir.

With the Ring, you can destroy Sauron and his host.

Corruption is how Sauron does it.

Ayden White
Ayden White

what from the orcs

Landon Smith
Landon Smith

Not pointless, but Sauron attacked Minas Tirith because he thought the ring was there. It seemed to him the only logical choice. He never even passed the thought they decided to destroy the ring. So if the analogy holds… then using the ring is zionism and fractional reserve… so the only way to defeat them is to gas the kikes from orbit.

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

anything really, fill in the blank, but certainly don't think Choas can save you.

Nathan Rogers
Nathan Rogers

You're a fucking retard. How the fuck do you expect the report muslims en masse without control of the state? Kikes need to be removed first.

Cooper Baker
Cooper Baker

Deport*

Angel Bennett
Angel Bennett

The good guys would of course be the NSDAP.

HEIL HITLER!

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Owen Bailey
Owen Bailey

No, destroying the ring is destroying the usurious currency, after returning it all to Mt. Doom or the Mint.

Aiden James
Aiden James

But you say it's pointless. Just ignore the orcs/muslims bro, when Sauron sends the orcs to invade Minas Tirith, just open the gates and let them in.
Did the king of Rohan order Eomer to kill the uruk-hai?

Yet Eomer still kill the uruk-hai.

Do you see Eomer "deporting" the uruk-hai?

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

In retrospect, e2fa59 (wormtongue) would say it's best to not kill the uruk hai, else Rohan would have to war make war with Saruman and Isengard.

We just need to kill Sauron, then Saruman would wise up and leave Rohan alone.

Nathaniel Thompson
Nathaniel Thompson

Gandalf had to take control of the state of Rohan from the jew corruption surrounding theoden before the uruks could be successfully fought. Arabs arent under the direct control of Jews either.

Evan Anderson
Evan Anderson

successfully fought
But before that, Eomer was killing orcs and uruk-hai before wormtongue was even removed.
Arabs arent under the direct control of Jews either.
LOL yes they are. What do you think ISIS are?

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

And no, the state of Rohan was in a mess.

The actual military of Rohan can't do shit against the uruk-hai, and it's actually exiled generals and patriots like Eomer who organize the fighting back against uruk-hai.

Without Eomer returning to save Theoden, the state of Rohan would be lost in Helm's Deep.

Michael Collins
Michael Collins

chechar.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/wagners-wisdom/

As to the deeper meaning in both cases, it is important to know that the one Ring of Power has no magical potentials as we understand them. It cannot destroy enemy armies simply by an order of its bearer. It cannot make you fly. It cannot stop the flow of time. It can’t even prevent you from getting wet if it rains. It can make you invisible, true, but that is just an illusion. And you’d still get wet in any case. So what is it really?

It really is only GOLD! And isn’t that enough to rule the world?

For many of those who had witnessed the last decades of the great European Empires, a reign of peace and general improvement that ended abruptly and horribly with World War One, the era afterwards must have seemed like the proverbial devaluation of all values. Because the bankers and Philistines, already so powerful in Wagner’s times, had by now metastasized out of all proportion. Germany, down on its knees, was hardest hit. During the ill-fated and debt-ridden Weimar Republic the country’s capital, Berlin, boasted 115 banking institutions of which 112 were Jewish-owned. The same ratio was true for innumerable cabarets and brothels where girls and boys as young as ten years old sold their famished bodies to the new caste of money acrobats. As to the banks, they used the country’s catastrophic finances to their advantage and tricked and forced the starving population out of their assets, be it shares, shops, houses, farmland, factories or newspapers, until half of Germany was in the hands of a very few.

Accounts that surely have been observed and considered by Tolkien as well. Therefore it seems highly plausible that the Ring he began to forge in his mind during the early Thirties wasn’t so very different from the one Wagner had invented a hundred years earlier. Particularly if we remember a rather interesting detail, namely that indeed one Aragorn strode out of the wild and re-forged the sword that was broken. A man not of royal descent, it is true, but some kind of Mahdi or Sent-One, as Carl Gustav Jung has called him. Very powerful, a great orator, fearless too, and immediately setting to work and succeeding, almost overnight, to break the Ring’s terrible stranglehold. A feat he brought about by throwing worthless paper money out of the window and replacing it with barter based on real goods and honest work.

Well, we know what became of him and his folks, and how dearly they paid for an attempt that endangered the supremacy of Sauron’s banking institutions worldwide. The latter regrouped, giving his Ring full play, and Germany’s ancient cities and their innocent inhabitants, millions of them, perished in a Firestorm of unimaginable magnitude and barbarity. A sad moment in our great Christian European history, you will agree, and its final curtain fittingly drawn by one of its greatest conductors, Herbert von Karajan, who performed on the eve of Berlin’s destruction the Ring’s last episode, Twilight of the Gods.

Zachary Baker
Zachary Baker

There are many similarities between Wagner and Tolkien.

Tolkien's works just have more optimist on good men.

Der Ring Des Nibelungen is just depressing, good men are tricked and evil men triumph, even the gods fall and wither.

Matthew Watson
Matthew Watson

If only you could summon Hulagu and his army of Mongols like how Aragorn summoned the ghosts to take care of the Orcs.

Carson Martin
Carson Martin

The ghosts are symbols of redeemed traitors.

Hmm, I wonder what they actually are. Maybe old ass boomers who fought in WW2.

Aaron Gonzalez
Aaron Gonzalez

You fundamentally misunderstand why Lord of the Rings, and really Tolkien in general, strikes the chord it does, if you can so easily reduce it down to "a reinterpretation of the Anglo-Saxons"
It is a fundamental capture and exaltation of all that is good in Man. It makes it clear what is evil and gives it an actual form. It carries the melancholia of lost tradition and the spirit of defying the long defeat to the last breath.
And in the books that almost got him killed. He was jailed at the least and completely relieved of any command.
It took Gandalf freeing the king from Wormtongue's treachery to set shit right.
You NEED leaders. Not just because of strategy and statesmanship. Hierarchy is the natural state of men and we put our lot in with those who would lead us.
Even the most grassroots of armies once they get marching put their lot behind individuals.
I'm not suggesting waiting for a leader, but at the very least, make yourself one.

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

A man not of royal descent
Aragorn was literally the most kingly of all Men and in him flowed divine blood. Not even just elven blood, literally blood of a Maiar from before Eä.
Tolkien was a monarchist, heavily so, and believed in the divine mandate of one's blood, but also warned that the man himself regardless of blood can still be completely and utter shite.
After all, it was the same blood that got Númenor sank under the waves.

Jayden Collins
Jayden Collins

And in the books that almost got him killed. He was jailed at the least and completely relieved of any command.
He was exiled and relieved of his command but his faithful follows him, with or without the state.
It took Gandalf freeing the king from Wormtongue's treachery to set shit right.
LOL, Eomer returns with Erkenband and his band of eastern rohirrim to save Theoden's ass, the "state" of Rohan was nearly destroyed.
You NEED leaders. Not just because of strategy and statesmanship. Hierarchy is the natural state of men and we put our lot in with those who would lead us.
We need leaders, we need strategy. We don't need to wait for the state to give us leaders and strategies.

That's the point.

Muslims here suggest that WHEN and ONLY WHEN jews are removed that the state can remove muslims, never mind that people like you and me can already do that.

Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

This.

The Jews are the high ranking generals of the war. We won’t ignore the muzzies/orcs but we must prioritize our (((targets))).

Just think, if all of the elite Jews had died during ww2. The allies wouldn’t have any marching orders. Without any orders from a higher power all their armies would lose all the ability to successfully mobilize and fight. People would just pack up and go home. The war would be over.

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Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

Oh, so why didn't Aragorn and his band do that?

Why didn't just assassinate the Nazgul and Sauron? Why bother fighting the orcs at all?

If you successfully kill nazgul and sauron, the orcs are gonna pack it up and go home right.

Jaxon Moore
Jaxon Moore

He was exiled and relieved of his command but his faithful follows him, with or without the state.
He was thrown in jail in the books. If we're talking about the meaning Tolkien intended, we ought to take the books as the highest source.
LOL, Eomer returns with Erkenband and his band of eastern rohirrim to save Theoden's ass, the "state" of Rohan was nearly destroyed.
Éomer was at Helm's Deep from the very beginning. Erkenbrand was the one that sounded the charge upon the Orcs and attacked with Gandalf
We need leaders, we need strategy. We don't need to wait for the state to give us leaders and strategies.
No, you need to place yourself in a position to lead. You already have people that would follow.

Muslims here suggest that WHEN and ONLY WHEN jews are removed that the state can remove muslims, never mind that people like you and me can already do that.
The muzzies don't need the Jews to ruin your shit but so long as there's Jews and their goyims in government, it wont matter how many lone wolf attacks you perform.
Even were the entire population of France rise up when it comes out (as it will surely must) that it was a muzzie that put fire to Notre Dame, without leadership it will be put down. And in the majority of revolts you barely get 10-20% of the populace and that's enough.
If we were to hypothetically discuss a situation where Zig Forumsacks of different western countries go lone wolf, the best targets would be high profile kikes and politicians. Because if you can't trust any leader that arises in the system, then kill the enemy's leadership.
And you wouldn't, in this purely hypothetical scenario, ever seen the fruits of your effort, so hypothetically, you would have to steel yourself and fight the long defeat, with only hope as your companion.
But again, all of this is hypothetical.

Luis Morris
Luis Morris

I didn't agree to use the analogy in that post.
I said quite clearly that ultimately as vile as the muzzies or kikes are, they're just men.
There is no easy way out of this. There is no Ring to destroy. Sauron is a formless shape and all that's left of Morgoth is the taint he poured into the Earth which others use to ever corrupt.
The analogy was retarded from the beginning.

Nicholas Collins
Nicholas Collins

He was thrown in jail in the books. If we're talking about the meaning Tolkien intended, we ought to take the books as the highest source.
OK, I admit my mistake.
Éomer was at Helm's Deep from the very beginning. Erkenbrand was the one that sounded the charge upon the Orcs and attacked with Gandalf
Once again, agreed, but it doesn't change the fact Eomer was killing uruk-hai to protect his people in the neginning.
No, you need to place yourself in a position to lead. You already have people that would follow.
You can lead the charge in the front and offer advice on tactics and what to do, you don't wait for le redpilled state to give the orders.
If we were to hypothetically discuss a situation where Zig Forumsacks of different western countries go lone wolf, the best targets would be high profile kikes and politicians. Because if you can't trust any leader that arises in the system, then kill the enemy's leadership.
Again, that's like saying what Theoden and Eomer should have done is to send assassins to kill Saruman, while ignoring the massive army sent to his doorstep.

Blake Powell
Blake Powell

Aren't orc just evil men?

Isn't Sauron just an evil god with lot of resources behind him?

But it is funny that the thought of destroying a god by dropping a specific ring straight at the enemy's stronghold is the "easy way out", while the simple thoughts of killing jews and muslims are hard.

There is no Ring to destroy.
There are muzzies and kikes to destroy.
The analogy was retarded from the beginning.
Pardon, it's you who are retarded.

Muzzies will keep using muh symptom muh cause analogy over and over again but ignore the reality of situation, that muslims are orcs and kikes are their leader, Sauron.

Wyatt Perez
Wyatt Perez

Without marching orders and the helping hand of the Jew, the muzzies will be extremely easy to conquer. They will pack up and leave otherwise all of them will die if they refuse (honestly might have to not give them the choice and just kill them all so that the orcs never mobilize against us again)

The point is prioritizing targets is a legitimate strategy. It doesn’t mean ignore the other targets it just means go after the fuckers on top. Killing the top dogs fucks up the chain of command.

Owen Rogers
Owen Rogers

You can lead the charge in the front and offer advice on tactics and what to do, you don't wait for le redpilled state to give the orders.
Okay. Who decides when we all bust out the hidden guns and make for Washington/London/whatever?
Who's call do people answer?
Who's willing to put their neck out and be the rallying cry? And if that happens, will people follow them in enough numbers?

Again, that's like saying what Theoden and Eomer should have done is to send assassins to kill Saruman, while ignoring the massive army sent to his doorstep.
There is no army that's the issue. The only weapon they brought with them was lies and deceit
I wish they had tried to bust in armed. Would have made the last decades far easier.

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

Without marching orders and the helping hand of the Jew, the muzzies will be extremely easy to conquer.
Just like how killing Sauron means the orcs are gonna pack up and leave.

It doesn’t mean ignore the other targets it just means go after the fuckers on top.
LOL the muzzies here are to argue exactly that. If you kill muslims, you do the jews's bidding, just like if you kill orcs, you are helping Sauron.

Oliver Baker
Oliver Baker

Who decides when we all bust out the hidden guns and make for Washington/London/whatever?
The patriots in their areas? Who decided that Washington was the leader? Who decided Hitler? Natural leader forms in conflict, not before it.
There is no army that's the issue. The only weapon they brought with them was lies and deceit
Yeah, the muzzies here aren't an army bred to destroy whites, no siree, no, they are just "refugees".
I wish they had tried to bust in armed. Would have made the last decades far easier.
You would wish that, would you, funny how you can call the enemy refugees then they will stop being an army.

Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

Does Gondor have soldiers out in the Himalayas whose only job is to light the beacons, or are some of the beacon watches Rohirrim / contractors / etc?

Owen Perry
Owen Perry

Do you watch the movies? They have scouts all over the land, rangers.

Ryan Torres
Ryan Torres

aren't Orcs just evil men

That's too much of a simplification. But the issue is that Orcs are united by fear of Morgoth and Sauron and by their very wills. Without them they fold like straw and are nothing. But that wouldn't happen with shitskins if you suddenly killed the kikes bringing them in.
Because ultimately as shit as they are, shitskins and kikes are human still. As perverted as you can get, but men. And the evilest and shittiest of men has twice the bravery and/or cunning as the greatest of orcs. The easterlings were the last ones fighting at Pelennor and by all accounts were brave in their last stands.

But no matter how much they accounted of themselves, they'd have ravaged all of Gondor from coast to mountains if given a chance.
Now imagine if they had come without weapons. If they simply flooded in. And those at Gondor's helm did nothing to stop in, in fact encouraged it.
We already have all the power we need to stop this shit cold. We have the people, the people have the means. Someone that the people trust just needs to come out and lead and depose the fucking kikes and goyims at the helm now.

Nolan Lewis
Nolan Lewis

The patriots in their areas? Who decided that Washington was the leader?
An assembly of selected representatives, each representative chosen by the elected government of the colony they belonged to.

Who decided Hitler? Natural leader forms in conflict, not before it.
The entire German people through proper elections.

You would wish that, would you, funny how you can call the enemy refugees then they will stop being an army.
I never called them refugees, and you're being a dishonest little shitstain if you're implying I did or would.
But it's the truth that if they had come armed, they would have been shot the fuck down. They wormed in through deceit, that's the only reason. That and traitors within.

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

Orcs rape, kill and burn, muslims rape, kill and burn.

They are the same. This is not to mention the actual evil men employed by Sauron who aren't orc, but the same as orc.

Now imagine if they had come without weapons. If they simply flooded in. And those at Gondor's helm did nothing to stop in, in fact encouraged it.
That's what happens to Rohan actually. Orcs were free to pillage Rohan while Theoden was cucked, so it's up to Eomer and his warband to put up resistance.

Again, there's no "waiting".

We do not wait for Gandalf to come up to uncuck Theoden, Eomer didn't wait for that.

The act is now, do it or the chance is lost, forever.

Liam Watson
Liam Watson

An assembly of selected representatives, each representative chosen by the elected government of the colony they belonged to.
And how did Washington emerge from a bunch of candidates?
The entire German people through proper elections.
Again, how did Hitler emerge through his elections?
But it'like that?s the truth that if they had come armed, they would have been shot the fuck down. They wormed in through deceit, that's the only reason. That and traitors within.
And that's my point. Funny how when the enemy doesn't come with weapons, they are more dangerous than an armed army.

No, it doesn't. It makes them more vulnerable, what's holding back is the will to fight back, nothing more.

John Murphy
John Murphy

I read it as "SAVE"

Oliver Sanchez
Oliver Sanchez

I'm not so sure his world/mythos couldn't be outdone by someone else given the time and effort.
[Clap, clap, clap]. Outstanding. Everyone, stand the fuck back, we have a based zoomer who will educate us about why [thing-x-widely-considered-the-pinnacle-of-category-y] is really just [five-to-ten-word-description] and not all that great, to be honest, aside from [inb4-unassailable-aspect-z]. In this case, you might argue, literally 70 years of exponentially increasing autism has produced volumes of unsuccessful attempts to “outdo” Tolkien, but I’m sure it's just around the corner.

Jayden Morris
Jayden Morris

Only things that come even close to Tolkien is Warhammer.

Isaiah Perez
Isaiah Perez

They were diverting Sauran's attention from Frodo taking the ring to Mount Doom. Attacking was suicide, but middle earth could be saved.

Chase Evans
Chase Evans

Aragorn's the only ranger depicted in the movies. Granted, he does participate in the beacons since he is found to be watching one of beacon in Rohan and immediately delivers the message to Theoden. It is good that Wormtongue did not decommission Rohan's beacons while he was effectively running the kingdom.

Easton Reed
Easton Reed

Nigger what? Aragorn has his ranger buddy, and Faramir is depicted with the illithen ranger troops.

Gondor has their own rangers, just like Anor/Aragorn's.

Ryan Lee
Ryan Lee

But see? Attacking it is just pointless, we just need to kill Sauron and the orcs are gonna pack it up and leave.

Don't ask me, ask the muzzie.

Isaiah Parker
Isaiah Parker

…and how were they just going to kill Sauron? The ring was also half of his existence.

Brandon Scott
Brandon Scott

Kill them all. End of story.

Christopher Sullivan
Christopher Sullivan

They were going to kill Sauron by defeating his army, focusing his attention to them, while Frodo sneakily enters his stronghold and throws the Ring to Mount Doom.

No Frodo, Gondor fights orc forever.
No Gondor, Frodo gets captured by Sauron and Sauron gets back the Ring.

Thus the idea of focusing on either muslims or jews is useless, both are the same, and both should be killed.

Carson Walker
Carson Walker

Indeed. I tire of the. "oh it's Islam. No it's the kikes, no it's the niggers." It's endless. How about slay them all?

Josiah Garcia
Josiah Garcia

Correct.

They work in tandem with each other.

No orc army, Gondor can crush Sauron head on, just like the war of the last alliance.

No Sauron, orc cannot organize.

Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

I had a missionary friend that was in Iraq a few years back. It was the biggest christian city in Iraq I believe. My friend told me when they took the city, there neighbors who were muslim pointed out the finger of who was christian ans who wasn't. Then went to the be-headings of their neighbors and laughed. He told me that they acted like they were friends and told the Christians that they are peaceful people, people they could trust.
Muslims are not peaceful, they have infiltrated our government and the main stream media. If you ask any muslim if they prefer Sharia law or the constitution they will say Sharia law. They are all enemies to our country. If you meet a muslim and they say they are peaceful. Show them a picture of muhhamed and they will attack you. Obama was a Muslim and he helped produce BLM, Antifa, ect.. The problem with saying they are peaceful is the Koran. The first part of the Koran is peacful, then the second part is extreme. In any argument over the Koran because it was written after the Extremist always wins. Therefore all Muslims are extremists.
The muslims will say they are peaceful up to the moment when they stab you. I been making fun of Muslims for years and have received over 1000 death threats from the religion of peace.
We are being attacked by 2 armies. Both armies hate one another and both hate the Europeans.
Both armies have mass money. Islam actually has more money then Israel. Islam has an army of mass of stupid people who believe they are doing gods work. Both are fighting for dominance of the planet.
While the Europeans stand by and accept there fate. As muslims and Jews push for diversity.
We are being attacked from both sides.
I know people on here are saying that Israel controls Islam.
Jews are the enemy of all Islam as the Quran commands Muslims to not befriend Jews.
They both are our enemies. Muslims are the major problem against our way of life. They go to the ghettos and are building and army of niggers. When Nippsey Hustle died. Who did security? The Muslims did. I know a few on the board watched the funeral and can confirm what I am saying. The Muslim Brotherhood are building an army underneath our noses.
If we do not do anything we are going to lose big.
Time is now. Don;t listen to them say look the other way at the jews while we rape your women and burn your buildings.
What is happening on the board is called slight of hand. Do bad and make people look the other way. They want us to kill all the Jews while they act peaceful and pick up troops of Islam along the way.

Link to the city in iraq. There are some videos on youtube about Christians talking about what happened.
cnn.com/2014/08/07/world/meast/iraq-isis-christian-city/index.html

Justin White
Justin White

Does anyone have more info about JRRT going into old crypts and monestaries reading ancient books to come up with LOTR?
Apparently the story is not just fiction, but describes actual events that took place in old European history,
Elves=our spiritually enlightened brothers
Man=you and me
Orcs=niggers / beastmen
Sauron would be satan/lucifer or the objective metaphysical evil that we've all come to know about
I think Jews arent included because there werent jews in europe at that point in history

David Gonzalez
David Gonzalez

This poster is not lying
They are peaceful untill they are not
The time for preparing is now

Adam Ramirez
Adam Ramirez

I think another factor is the ABSURD attention to detail. The time and effort that he put into the worldcrafting is just insane.

Adam Perez
Adam Perez

I'll just leave this here for any Croats that might be lurking

Luke Howard
Luke Howard

Muslims here
0/10 you're going to die first jew.

Julian Hernandez
Julian Hernandez

is lotr actually that well known? i've only come by one who has read it

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William Young
William Young

When he wrote "ranger" I took that to mean the Dúnedain that still existed at that time, in exile - primarily in the north.
However, you make a great point: Faramir's troops in Ithilien and throughout greater Gondor (and beyond) were also rangers of sort, no doubt.

Ethan Jenkins
Ethan Jenkins

Morons, all of you.

YOU MUST FIGHT BOTH
Aragon made the last stand of the west at the black gate against the orcs to DISTRACT their master, put the gaze upon what looked like HIS plan working out. In the background the hobbits pulled the trigger in secret and toppled his power.

HOW ARE ALL OF YOU SO STUPID?

Adam Morris
Adam Morris

I believe lotr was based on an old norse tale. The same tale is behind the promethius series as well. The myth is the Volsunga saga from Iceland. It played important parts in Paradise Lost by Milton and das Rheingold by Wagner.

Robert Lee
Robert Lee

Here is another muslim who accuses anyone who points it out jews.

Just like an orc exposing Sauron, just laugh at it.

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

Agreed 100%

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Ian Price
Ian Price

but Aragorn was a king
That passage you quoted was drawing analogy between the characters of Aragorn and Uncle A. "not of royal descent" referred to the latter

James Adams
James Adams

Now that you've pointed it out I'm reading properly. Apologies.

Sebastian Sanders
Sebastian Sanders

The rangers of ithilien are not the same as the dunedain of the north.

Jace Fisher
Jace Fisher

ORK = RUS
KILL THE ELVES

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John Hughes
John Hughes

ooga booga
TAKE ACTION
NOTHING IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED BY USING POP CULTURE MOVIE AND BOOK REFERENCES AS ALLEGORIES FOR NPCS TO IGNORE

Kayden Allen
Kayden Allen

Tolkien isn't pop culture. It's culture.

Robert Moore
Robert Moore

BUMP

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Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

apol
Not needed. He cloaked his meaning pretty well from a casual glancer; I had to read it twice myself. Recommend the full linked post and discussion in comments. Contains some back n forth like on here but also some good historical references ie Wagner

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

The ring of power hides the wearer, making him invisible to ordinary people. With the ring on, the wearer also sees into a shadow world, hidden to most eyes, and the spell of it lies and tricks them in subtle ways. It does remind me of jewish money. What it must be to be one of the heebs, or shabbos goys, completely convinced they control the money, when its evil through the money that controls them. That's interesting, because the rise to power of banking, industry, and capitalism was on many men's minds in the early 20th century.

Kevin Gomez
Kevin Gomez

It's just a '50s Christian reinterpretation of the Anglo-Saxon era.
No it's not you fucking history illiterate fuckwit.

It's a WW1 era representation of WORLD WAR ONE written by a soldier for his child specifically to explain the clown world and concepts of WAR.

Cameron Parker
Cameron Parker

Whatcha sliding Chaim?

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

Shut your dick face.

Adam Brown
Adam Brown

Both are ranger troops, the Gondorian ones just have less numenorian blood.

Jaxon Ortiz
Jaxon Ortiz

Here you go reddit spacing faggot. Yes, we need to throw the ring into the volcano. Obviously that's fantasy but here is a more modern and real equivalent.

Also in the LOTR universe the orcs lost their guidance with the defeat of Sauron. They were still a problem but more like localized pests. The humans spent time hunting them down and killing them. Occasionally pockets of evil would manifest from the other evils of the world, but they never lasted or became major world threats. This is because the orcs were not created by Sauron but by Morgoth. They survive, but they are mindless beasts for the most part.

youtube.com/watch?v=qbHF2yp844E

Anyway, The ending of They Live, is how the Jewish real world Sauron defeat would look like.

Owen Myers
Owen Myers

Yes, we need to throw the ring into the volcano. Obviously that's fantasy but here is a more modern and real equivalent.
The modern equivalent is killing kikes.
Also in the LOTR universe the orcs lost their guidance with the defeat of Sauron. They were still a problem but more like localized pests
So before Sauron was defeated, did Gondor leave the gates open for the orcs to come in? Or did Gondor also fight orcs?

My problem here is that muslims here are proposing it's fine to leave muslims in Europe until the jews are taken out.
Anyway, The ending of They Live, is how the Jewish real world Sauron defeat would look like.
They weren't defeated in They Live.

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

They weren't defeated in They Live.
The implication is that reality is revealed and the Aliens will lose.

The modern equivalent is killing kikes.
Which is what the aliens and their media represent in They Live. Don't be so dense.

So before Sauron was defeated, did Gondor leave the gates open for the orcs to come in? Or did Gondor also fight orcs?
My problem here is that muslims here are proposing it's fine to leave muslims in Europe until the jews are taken out.
Everyone fought the orcs. They are orcs, no one let them in since they are violent killers. I don't think Gondor existed but whatever kingdom of Men existed did not leave the gates open. Is it fine to leave Muslims in Europe? No I really don't think so. I think most should go. The only possible exception would be places in Europe that have more historical Islamic presence. Ethnic Europeans that converted to Islam hundreds of years ago from Ottoman invasion. They can be converted back but they aren't the same as arabs or niggers. Not great but they have a better case than the current crop of Muslims for staying. But yes, ideally all of them need to go. They should be quarantined in Europe for the time being and energy focused on removing the Jews. Ideally agitate the Muslims to do the cannon fodder work for maximum efficiency.

Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

The implication is that reality is revealed and the Aliens will lose.
That's implication, it was not shown. The war is still long ahead.
Which is what the aliens and their media represent in They Live. Don't be so dense.
No, it doesn't. They Live ends with the alien exposed, that's it.
I think most should go. The only possible exception would be places in Europe that have more historical Islamic presence.
Nigger, that's like saying places in Gondor with orcist presence. Guess we should leave Minas Morgul to the orcs because Sauron has conquered it.
They should be quarantined in Europe for the time being and energy focused on removing the Jews.
That's like you should quarantine orcs in Gondor while waiting for Sauron to be defeated.
Ideally agitate the Muslims to do the cannon fodder work for maximum efficiency.
What? Like agitating orcs to kill Sauron?

Are you dumb, really dumb?

You are speaking like a goddamn cuck.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

Satan is Morgoth, Sauron is jews, Saruman is the occultist wing of whites; Saruman the White, or so it went…
Uruk-Hai are Amerimutts, Orcs are all the subhumans, white lower classes included.

Jeremiah Russell
Jeremiah Russell

Uruk-hai and orcs are various strains of subhumans.

Dark numenorian are amerimutt.

Blake King
Blake King

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Camden Rodriguez
Camden Rodriguez

I change muslims with orcs and lo and behold:

"Everyone fought the orcs. They are orcs, no one let them in since they are violent killers. I don't think Gondor existed but whatever kingdom of Men existed did not leave the gates open. Is it fine to leave Orcs in Gondor? No I really don't think so. I think most should go. The only possible exception would be places in Gondor that have more historical Orcist presence. Gondorian that bred with orcs hundreds of years ago from the Orc invasion. They can be converted back but they aren't the same as orcs or goblins. Not great but they have a better case than the current crop of Orcs for staying. But yes, ideally all of them need to go. They should be quarantined in Gondor for the time being and energy focused on removing the Sauron. Ideally agitate the Orcs to do the cannon fodder work for maximum efficiency."

This is the kind of muslim cuck that posts on Zig Forums now.

Camden King
Camden King

Bump.

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

Haha holy fuck, why does this analogy work so well?

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

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