National socialism and fascism

William Edwards
William Edwards

Not to long ago I already seen arguments that national socialism and fascism were actually the same but a bit different, but of the same branch or at least a variation because both are third position of that same truth, with some arguing that they aren't to different from each other and some arguing fascism being a civic nationalist ideology (which I disagree) Hitler admired Mussolini and the ideology but at the same time thought they were many faults in them and learned from it and made it into something else and probably took some ideas. Also I apologize for not having to save that info or link when I had the chance to see where I am coming from.
Itt: Discussing is national socialism the exact same as fascism, a variant, or are different.
Pic related seen anons disagreeing that it isn't simply the case.

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nationalvanguard.org/2015/08/the-khazars/

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

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Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

National socialism is fascism applied in Germany.

The faggots who try to generate this schism are ironically trying to make "nazis" into "antifa".

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

Hitler was inspired on Mussolini's fascism but vastly improved it (especially with racial nationalism>civic nationalism). Then everything came full circle with Mussolini embracing a more national socialist approach in the Italian Socialist Republic in the last years.

Alexander Thompson
Alexander Thompson

Hitler also took some ideas of Spengler's Prussian socialism as well, but from the arguments I heard anons also said mussolini only played the civic nationalism to gain public support.

Owen Parker
Owen Parker

two things are the same but also different
how does this quantum sophistry work?

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

Meant to say they were similar.

Ryder Flores
Ryder Flores

Race and folk, in practice, aren't Platonic forms; they have fuzzy borders. What authority, in your pic related, determines who does or doesn't belong to the race/folk?

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Ryder Rogers
Ryder Rogers

Ultimately, the people themselves.

Owen Anderson
Owen Anderson

Re read this part of my op.
Pic related seen anons disagreeing that it isn't simply the case.
What authority, in your pic related, determines who does or doesn't belong to the race/folk?
Dumb question, but I'll answer none the less, the germans are you people and your german by default these are your volk, in britain your people are the anglo and your anglo by default these are you folk.

Jaxon Taylor
Jaxon Taylor

the people determine who the people are
Isn't that a tautology?

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Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

Nope. National Socialism and Fascism differ significantly.
I have yet to find a fascist organization that prioritized biologic racial integrity on the level of the German National Socialists.

Anthony Thomas
Anthony Thomas

Yes, unironically.

This is a populism movement.

Or you have to have a king that is likened by the people.

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

What authority, in your pic related, determines who does or doesn't belong to the race/folk?
Nature ala biology would be my estimate.

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Isaac Sullivan
Isaac Sullivan

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falangism
Franco praised Spain's Visigothic heritage, saying that the Germanic tribe of the Visigoths gave Spaniards their "national love for law and order".[19] During early years of the Falangist regime of Franco, the regime admired Nazi Germany and had Spanish archaeologists seek to demonstrate that Spaniards were part of the Aryan race particularly through their Visigothic heritage.[20]

Founder of the Falange Española, José Antonio Primo de Rivera, had little interest in addressing the Jewish problem outside areas of political issues.[21] The Falange's position was influenced by the fact of the small size of the Jewish community in Spain at the time that did not favour the development of strong antisemitism.[22] Primo de Rivera saw the solution to the Jewish problem in Spain as simple: the conversion of Jews to Catholicism.[23] However, on the issue of perceived political tendencies amongst Jews he warned about Jewish-Marxist influences over the working classes.[21] The Falangist daily newspaper Arriba claimed that "the Judeo-Masonic International is the creator of two great evils that have afflicted humanity: capitalism and Marxism".[21] Primo de Rivera approved of attacks by Falangists on the Jewish-owned SEPU department stores in 1935.[21]

Luke Jenkins
Luke Jenkins

Some of the Falangists in Spain had supported racialism and racialist policies, viewing races as both real and existing with differing strengths, weaknesses and accompanying cultures inextricably obtained with them. However, unlike other racialists such as the National Socialists, Falangism is unconcerned about racial purity and does not denounce other races for being inferior, claiming "that every race has a particular cultural significance" and claiming that the intermixing of the Spanish race and other races has produced a "Hispanic supercaste" that is "ethically improved, morally robust, spiritually vigorous".
It was less concerned about biological Spanish racial regeneration than it was in advocating the necessity of Spanish Catholic spiritual regeneration.

Checked for this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Brayden Turner
Brayden Turner

The problem with Fascism as far as I can see is that, in every case I've examined, it lacks the racial component to a sufficient extent - often it is present, but it is superceded by some other, "cultural" ephemera, which equates to nothing more than a pseudo-civic nationalist perception of culture taking priority over biology, something which I find distasteful and, despite my desires to the alternative, suggestive of a weakness of character or insight.

Whenever some sort of cultural ideology takes precedence over blood ties, I find myself concerned. This is also why I often find myself dishearted by "identarians". I often hear members of these 'white nationalism' movements/organizations of the current year +X discussing the concept of 'identity', which I find disagreeable.

Identity IS a factor of what is of import, in actual terms, which is a matter of biology, not of mere internalized self-description, ie 'identity'; this distinction is important, as merely maintaining an identity into the future is not a means via which to maintain, to secure, our people into perpetuity - we are not a mere identity, we are a biological clade of beings, and this material reality is intrinsic to everything about us and our culture, the summation of which being that from whence our collective identity derives.

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

I'm going to take a momentary divergence from the base topic of the thread to tear into civic nationalism, given the sort of hypothesis I've just set forth that Fascism tends towards a pseudo-civic nationalist mentality.

Apologies if in any way off-putting.

I can't help but laugh at civic nationalism - its a self-defeating meme.

Look at the US.

We hear civic nationalists talking all about these Constitutional principles that they hold dear.
Freedom of speech. Right to bear arms. Limited government.
Yet these same civic nationalist principles, they claim, demand judgement on the basis of the individual only, not as collectives… Of course, their claims are somewhat suspect, given the men who derived those princples initially were slave owners and created the US as an explicit White ethnostate, but whatever.

The point is, this hyper-individualistic outlook forces them into a cognitive box, limiting the extent of their philosophical-willpower. It does so, in that it forces them to reject judgement in the context of racial groups as a collective, despite races acting as collectives.
For example: Hispanics support gun control (60%+ in favor, 30% against). And hate-speech laws (50%+ in favor, 25% against). And expanded government (70%+ in favor, 20% against). And Hispanics overwhelmingly identify with the left-wing political parties (60%+, increasingly from generation to generation after entry to the country to upwards of 70% by the 2nd generation). AND Hispanics demonstrate an elevated fertility rate relative to White populations in the US (still above replacement levels).

Thus, by upholding civic nationalist principles in judging Hispanics as individuals instead of as a group, many Hispanics would be (and have been) allowed into the country - for example in the amnesty of Ronald Reagan - despite the fact that collectively they do not believe in the principles upon which the nation was founded… Not that they would say as much if attempting to gain entry - deception exists, and civic nationalist arguments as-goes vetting procedures are underwhelming, nevermind the prospect of enforcement of civic values after entry (let alone over generations).

Tyler Garcia
Tyler Garcia

And this last point about enforcement is important, because evidence suggests that, like most ethnic/racial minorities in the US, Hispanics do not demonstrate a collective belief in the civic principles of the US (certainly not to the proportional degree seen in US Whites), but they DO behave as a collective, supporting left-wing political groups in overwhelming majority. Those promoting civic nationalist ideals do not demonstrate the philosophical-willpower to enforce these civic values, have offered no methodology to alter this condition, and all indications suggest they are bereft of such a method - if they were not, the populations which have been in the US for several generations, exposed to the values of the country and civic nationalists' arguments in that vein, would espouse those positions, but they do not.

While on the subject… Why do Hispanics support left-wing groups? Are they actually more left-wing in political view? Yes, but that's not the whole story - they vote as a collective, and they do so to serve collective interests. Left-wing groups in the US are the groups in favor of serving the left-wing predispositions of Hispanics (hate-speech laws, gun control, expanding government with more programs) as well as increased immigration, which they promote loudly, and increased immigration leads to an increase in population for the respective ethnic/racial minority in question, which in turn leads to an increase in the political power, electorally at the very least, wielded by that ethnic/racial minority. Hence, regardless of their political stance, Hispanics support left-wing groups as a collective to serve collective interest. We see the same sort of behavior on behalf of Blacks and other non-Whites.
In fact, we see the same sort of behavior on behalf of Asians, who also primarily support left-wing groups in the US (50%+, increasing generationally), even though polling of their political views suggest they may not actually be left-wing politically - they're merely acting as a collective in serving their collective interest.

Left-wing groups are, for whatever reason (ideology, personal desire for power or wealth, etc), very happy to assist in this endeavor, and in fact, the left-wing political party of the modern US is an amalgam of minority groups acting collectively in their own interest despite an absence of shared political belief betwixt the tribes. They are, effectively, a collective composed of collectives, each acting to serve their own interests, and a great deal of their effort is maintained in securing each individual collective's support and avoiding conflict among those groups where their perceived collective interests conflict. Further, these left-wing groups - aided by left-wing political/social organizations (several particularly influential examples bearing an overt Jewish composition or philosophy) - explicitly advocate for, and support the explicit advocacy of, the respective non-White minority collectives, whilst simultaneously doing everything in their power to silence, slander, demonize and deplatform any and all explicit White advocacy groups through accusation of association with 'racism', 'White supremacy', 'Nazism' and/or 'anti-Semitism', amongst others.

Nicholas Anderson
Nicholas Anderson

That is to say, the left-wing in the US, particularly the influential Jewish wing, advocates against explicit White advocacy. Which is why no such explicit White advocacy organizations exist in the US today which are not so slandered, and certainly none which exhibit institutional power and perceived legitimacy as might be claimed on behalf of other ethnic/racial groups' equivalents (the latter of which often exhibiting a far more seedy character than the former).
Ironically, this seems to form a neat little circle for the left-wing (especially Jewish) actors: by advocating against White advocacy and White advocates using accusations such as 'racism' or 'White supremacy', Jewish left-wing organizations create anti-semitic sentiment in White advocates and White advocacy organizations, which those same left-wing Jewish organizations then utilize to further slander them through accusation of 'anti-semitism' or 'Nazism'!
Its important to note that the left-wing political factions and their accomplice political organizations in the US also employ such accusations in opposition to any efforts to inhibit left-wing political aims at increasing immigration into the US from non-White sources, promoting globalist multiculturalism and miscegenation, and degrading national borders, even national sovereignty.

The left-wing has been so successful in their efforts in this regard, that the US population demographics are beginning to disintegrate. The White population - the only population which demonstrates anything close to majority support for the ideals which civic nationalists claim to hold most dear - is being displaced.

What conclusion do we reach from such analysis of circumstance?
We can discern that the civic nationalist position is philosophically-unequipped to combat this hazard, in that their civic nationalist ideals demand they make judgements on strictly individual grounds such as to ignore ethnic/racial behavioral trends. They will thus seek to argue in favor of judging a long line of individuals, as individuals, on principle, who can and will present themselves as sharing a belief in the principles civic nationalists claim to seek to uphold if such is required to gain entry to the country, and who will subsequently act collectively in their own interests once in the US such as to create new demographic conditions within the US that are no longer fertile substrate for the individual - and thereby societal - espousal of civic nationalists' proposed ideals.

Caleb Roberts
Caleb Roberts

tl;dr: Non-Whites don't care about civic duties or virtues, they act as collectives to serve collective interests, and civic nationalists do not have any mechanism at their disposal to change, nor combat, this state of affairs, even as they vehemently protest, on the basis of their civic nationalist principles, White advocates attempting such a feat. These civic nationalists are thus demonstrating that they are operating from an obsolete playbook, attempting to espouse civic nationalist ideals of individualism that were only able to be maintained in homogenous White nations bereft of competition from myriad non-White collectives (each serving their own interests), and yet, despite this failure, demonstrable throughout electoral politics in the US (and the West overall) over the last 30+ years, civic nationalists continue to suggest the old playbook is valid. The conclusion is thus that, if civic nationalists are allowed to attempt to carry out their proposed policies in the US, there will cease to exist a substrate for civic nationalists' beloved Constitutional principles and these principles will cease to exist in application in the US. Self-defeating meme.

Finally, I'd like to sink one last nail into the coffin of civic nationalists' hyper-individualistic ideals, specifically surrounding the conceptual notion of individual judgements in the context of immigration.
Regression to the mean.
This is a well-documented phenomenon in population genetics whereby the offspring of outliers within a population tend to gradually 'shift' toward a state more in-line with the average of their ethnic/racial group. The result is that judgement of individuals is an entirely static exercise.
Typically, those promoting such a methodology of selection will dictate a set of standards which are non-biological in origin, but which effectively act to indirectly ensure that only the outliers amongst non-White ethnic/racial groups will be able to gain entry. Of course, this is innately faulty in practice, in that the individual's offspring are not necessarily going to espouse the traits which meet those standards, particularly if the individual being judged initially was an outlier amongst their kind, which will be the case by-requisite as regards non-White ethnic/racial groups, yet those offspring will be granted voting privileges if born within the US.

Professed ideals of civic nationalism require a substrate of individuals who believe in those ideals in order for those ideals to be espoused in society, and non-Whites do not represent such a substrate, such that demographic replacement of White populations by non-White populations eliminates such substrate, resulting in a cessation of populational espousal of those values at the individual, and thus societal, levels.

Jaxon Brown
Jaxon Brown

My point is that you need a decision-making entity in order to define who the folk are. Even if it's something as rudimentary as a council of village elders, it is a state.

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Dylan Morgan
Dylan Morgan

I don't think fascists think each race has their strong points mean they become cuck civic nationalist, muh baste nigger americucks.

That's an entirely different point together.

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

So a king/leader/fuhrer/kaiser.

Many name, but essentially a king, where responsibility and authority rest upon.

Grayson Butler
Grayson Butler

My point is that you need a decision-making entity in order to define who the folk are.
No, Nature does that for you. What you need is an organizational framework wherein that conditions is recognized and the participant individuals are held to acting accordingly.

Even if it's something as rudimentary as a council of village elders, it is a state.
And its less a matter of definition so much as recognition. The definition is already laid by Nature, its simply a matter of the governmental body representing the interests of a group of people recognizing that extant state and acting in accordance to the interests of those so defined.

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

Nature can define whatever it wants, but without enforcement, it means jackshit.

Same argument for the Constitution.

Andrew Barnes
Andrew Barnes

I don't think fascists think each race has their strong points mean they become cuck civic nationalist
I didn't suggest it did, necessarily.

I repeat:
The problem with Fascism as far as I can see is that, in every case I've examined, it lacks the racial component to a sufficient extent - often it is present, but it is superceded by some other, "cultural" ephemera, which equates to nothing more than a pseudo-civic nationalist perception of culture taking priority over biology, something which I find distasteful and, despite my desires to the alternative, suggestive of a weakness of character or insight.

Whenever some sort of cultural ideology takes precedence over blood ties, I find myself concerned. This is also why I often find myself dishearted by "identarians". I often hear members of these 'white nationalism' movements/organizations of the current year +X discussing the concept of 'identity', which I find disagreeable.

Identity IS a factor of what is of import, in actual terms, which is a matter of biology, not of mere internalized self-description, ie 'identity'; this distinction is important, as merely maintaining an identity into the future is not a means via which to maintain, to secure, our people into perpetuity - we are not a mere identity, we are a biological clade of beings, and this material reality is intrinsic to everything about us and our culture, the summation of which being that from whence our collective identity derives.

The Falangists prioritization of a cultural regeneration over a racial regeneration is what I'm referring to here, just as an example - that's not to say they were muh baste nigger americucks by any means, but it DOES mean that they believed niggers were, in essence, their equals in some sense, and viewed interbreeding as a viable approach.

David Reyes
David Reyes

Nature can define whatever it wants, but without enforcement, it means jackshit.
Hence
What you need is an organizational framework wherein that conditions is recognized and the participant individuals are held to acting accordingly.
And its less a matter of definition so much as recognition. The definition is already laid by Nature, its simply a matter of the governmental body representing the interests of a group of people recognizing that extant state and acting in accordance to the interests of those so defined.

Carson Bell
Carson Bell

Exactly. Of course, the leader can't be too arbitrary in his definitions or he will lose the support of his people. It would be unwise for him to define sheep as part of the folk, for example.

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Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

Of course, the leader can't be too arbitrary in his definitions or he will lose the support of his people.
Quite, and he need not be - he is not DEFINING anything, so much as RECOGNIZING a clade which is already defined by Nature.

It would be unwise for him to define sheep as part of the folk, for example.
Yet, IMHO, that is often what Fascism seeks to do, in one form or another, and this then leads into questions of the ol' slippery slope, in that such openness to outsiders - idealistic and compassionate though it may be - tends to lead towards miscegenation and dilution.

Nathan Phillips
Nathan Phillips

RECOGNIZING a clade which is already defined by Nature.
To a great degree, yes, but it still isn't a Platonic form. Inductive reasoning and the scientific method, properly understood, aren't about certainties, but rather about greater or lesser probabilities. IOW all taxonomies, borders and boundaries are to some extent arbitrary.

slippery slope
There's always that risk. Good advisors should help attenuate it.

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Asher Powell
Asher Powell

I that any movement that use the neo-hegelian phylosophy as base is a fascist movement.
Of course Mussolini knew about the deep forces of nature, he was a commie before! Usually commies stop being commies when they find out it comes to race and not class!

Seriously! "United we are stronger" - how could it not have biological implications? Add to the equation the fact Mussolini was not very catholic himself (as a neo-Hegelian thinker) and that they were a post-darwinian movement!

Ryder Green
Ryder Green

Inductive reasoning and the scientific method, properly understood, aren't about certainties, but rather about greater or lesser probabilities. IOW all taxonomies, borders and boundaries are to some extent arbitrary.
At which point you're getting into levels of esoteric obscurity as to be irrelevant outside a philosophers study.

The data we had then, let alone now, is more than sufficient to recognize the patterns of expression which delineate the racial clades, without any real justification for claims of arbitrary placement.

There's always that risk. Good advisors should help attenuate it.
Or you could just avoid it all together, as the National Socialists did, by placing a paramount priority on such matters rather than on mere cultural ephemera.

This is where I always lose ground with self-proclaimed Fascists, and it comes back to their unwillingness to accept the following:
Identity IS a factor of what is of import, in actual terms, which is a matter of biology, not of mere internalized self-description, ie 'identity'; this distinction is important, as merely maintaining an identity into the future is not a means via which to maintain, to secure, our people into perpetuity - we are not a mere identity, we are a biological clade of beings, and this material reality is intrinsic to everything about us and our culture, the summation of which being that from whence our collective identity derives.

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

Usually commies stop being commies when they find out it comes to race and not class!
But it doesn't seem like he did, as his earlier material seems to be heavily geared away from race, much of that having come into play post-Hitlerian exposure.

Not that I'm saying Mussolini is shit or was totally deracinated in philosophy mind you, its simply a matter of prioritization.

Example:
"United we are stronger" - how could it not have biological implications?
Therein lies the question - how far does he extend what defines that which can be and should be united? When I said there is a tendency towards miscegenation and dilution before when it comes to Fascism, I should have rather said that there is a tendency towards Imperialistic tendencies, and such tendencies are what lends a tendency in turn for miscegenation and dilution.

You can't rule a multicultural empire and think that's not going to have feedback ramifications, particularly if your foundational ethos does not highly-prioritize racialism. IMHO at least.

Aiden Harris
Aiden Harris

It's because fascism occured in southern european countryes. Southern european countryes are catholic, and as catholics they wouldn't put race nor anything before God.
They were also more religious, influencing more than protestants in the north, since catholicism isn't a version of christianism were everything that is beautifull is throwed out, thus people still identified strongly with religion on those countryes.

William Barnes
William Barnes

It's because fascism occured in southern european countryes.
Southern european countryes are catholic, and as catholics they wouldn't put race nor anything before God.
I can understand that, but do you see how once again that falls into what I've said about Fascism and its expressions in this thread?
Religion is, no matter how you look at it, cultural ephemera. Its the consequence of something else, derivative rather than source.
This is also why I often come into conflict with Christians and, I suppose that makes sense, especially Catholics: From my position, it appears they are ready and willing to prioritize their cult over their blood, and that's death IMHO.

They were also more religious, influencing more than protestants in the north, since catholicism isn't a version of christianism were everything that is beautifull is throwed out, thus people still identified strongly with religion on those countryes.
I can appreciate that as a factor, but it amounts to little more than an excuse in my eyes. Doubly so in that I find Christianity generally distasteful, and a great many Fascist organizations historically have held a Christian bent. As such, they just kind of put me off, in that I perceive them to be prone to such cultural ephemeric fetishism on two fronts.

Adrian Gray
Adrian Gray

From what I heard, the cathloics or king betrayed Mussolini.

Jackson Adams
Jackson Adams

Fascism is garbage. It’s too hardass to learn what it needs to know to succeed. Fascist governments inspire widespread secret resistance to their policies because nobody likes their enforcers.

Chase Flores
Chase Flores

Religion is contrafascistic. Can you even learn why if the answer isn’t given to you?

Christian Lopez
Christian Lopez

Well mate, of course the problem is christianity! Why aren't we naming the disgenic kike cult that placed southern europeans in such a mental state?

<And before you state that northern europeans growed out of it solely because of "muh northern genetic better, muh dick with blond pubes!!!" I want to remind you that protestantism is a more extreme form of kikery than catholicism! That's why people in the northern countryes felt withdrawn to religion.
<Yes, "muh cuckristianism" is the way I found to blame the kikes for the faults of southern european expression.
<Seriously, you know how much racist are southern europeans naturally? Like the slavs, they tend to be agressive with niggers and such! It's about hygiene!

Julian Thompson
Julian Thompson

Well, there's also that.
My ancestors were Swiss Anabaptist genius-retards so you won't hear me trying to claim Northern Europeans are bereft of capacity to be subjected to Christian-derived bullshit. Not by any means.

<Yes, "muh cuckristianism" is the way I found to blame the kikes for the faults of southern european expression.
I don't know about all that, there's other cultural factors in play which contribute to such concerns I would suggest.

Nobody likes a person who pretends to be smarter than they are my man. Just a hint.
In my experience, those who seek to withhold knowledge while decrying those who lack it, instead of attempting to perpetuate such knowledge, never possessed such knowledge to begin with. But that's entirely anecdotal.

Brayden Hernandez
Brayden Hernandez

Therein lies the question - how far does he extend what defines that which can be and should be united? When I said there is a tendency towards miscegenation and dilution before when it comes to Fascism, I should have rather said that there is a tendency towards Imperialistic tendencies, and such tendencies are what lends a tendency in turn for miscegenation and dilution.

You can't rule a multicultural empire and think that's not going to have feedback ramifications, particularly if your foundational ethos does not highly-prioritize racialism. IMHO at least.

Wait, user! And what if fascism is the political project of r strategysts and the GOAL is INDEED to raise a big multicultural empire and miscigenate as hell before it colapse?
I mean, think of the romans! Those guys miscigenated with celts, greeks, britons, some germans and what about the bastard sons italic roman soldiers had all around those areas that hadn't a big roman population…
This may, indeed, be a strategy to propagate the roman r strategist genes!

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Isaac Gutierrez
Isaac Gutierrez

Religion is contrafascistic because religions teach people that which fascists whine forever about their shortage of: strength. Religious people do not submit while fascists have no dignity and will submit to any atrocity.

Religion is contrafascistic because religions peacefully teach people the honesty and integrity which fascists governments undermine in their every blundering moment. Nobody reveals their sins to a fascist. You know who people don’t even try to hide their sins from? Priests!

I’m a satanist. I take strength even from my beliefs, materialistic though they be. My ideals are profoundly functional in this world. I need no submission.

Let me give you another example. Something secular, because you people can’t win just by undermining religion. Fascists don’t believe in rehabilitation. They run their prisons as hellpits. One of the side effects of that is they don’t learn about crime and poverty in their nation. To a fascist government they are darkness built on darkness governing darkness. The side effects of their policies are invisible and irresolvable.

Deepening the darkness? Those who punish what is revealed become people to whom nothing is revealed. The common experience of fascists is stubborn exclusion every time they get detected. That is right and proper reciprocation.

Kindness is the light. There’s more to truth in this world than just being nice, but it’s important. If you want to learn that which is necessary to govern your leaders need a capacity for honestly trying to help people.

Ethan Wood
Ethan Wood

Wait, user! And what if fascism is the political project of r strategysts and the GOAL is INDEED to raise a big multicultural empire and miscigenate as hell before it colapse?
… Ew.

I mean, think of the romans! Those guys miscigenated with celts, greeks, britons, some germans and what about the bastard sons italic roman soldiers had all around those areas that hadn't a big roman population…
This may, indeed, be a strategy to propagate the roman r strategist genes!
<propagating your valuable genetics in another race
Fucking ew dude.

Miscegenation is never a wise move if you are at the top of the totem pole. That way lies species death.

Lucas Scott
Lucas Scott

Fuck you, wimp. Come over to real strength. People are nicer on my side of the divide.

Landon Phillips
Landon Phillips

Religious people do not submit
They always submit, what the fuck are you talking about? This is already sounding like the screed of the loser I was going back and forth with today about 'bigotry'.

I'm a satanist
Dropped.

Andrew Allen
Andrew Allen

The people on your side of the divide are all cretinous hedonistic ghouls who will not survive what is to come.
You included, I wager.

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

The people on my side of the divide rule this god-damned world. Your side only “rules” in jails. Guess which of us is trying to make something of blind, short-sighted hedonists? You have to learn superhedonic idealism. The greatest pleasures are of a worthy life.

Religious people die before they submit. You’re just a criminal begging to get your dick plugged in, only qualification: race.

Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

Also, for whatever snarky faggot reply you're going to come back, stop speaking like you're in a Marixst version of a Harry Potter novel, yeah?
It makes you sound like a pillock and I'm in no mood to get into an autistic back and forth with you trying to divine half the vague rhetorical shitposting you unleash between spineless jabs at your collection of strawmen.

Angel Rodriguez
Angel Rodriguez

Religious people die before they submit.
Only the most ardent - most just submit.

The people on my side of the divide rule this god-damned world.
No they don't. They juggle an assemblage of vases which they've already started dropping.

Less than a century have your ideals held any true sway, and they are already crumbling.

Nathaniel Gutierrez
Nathaniel Gutierrez

Hahaha! Too cowardly for a (You). That’s the sign of a bold arguer! Retreating into paltry insults and trying to unlink the dispute so the viewers have a harder time following! If that worked I wouldn’t be collecting threadsnipes humiliating you lovely perfectly stable geniuses! But alright. I’ll reciprocate. The general public can hook things together just fine.

Your kind have been dying out throughout history, which is damned impressive. Truth punishing tardragers were the original genestock of humanity. The ascent of better governance was the victory of my ideals, first at the edges, then through the center. Push truth to the side, and it will eat your heart out.

Brayden Kelly
Brayden Kelly

Yeah, but if you have a population that occupy foreign lands and both miscigenates and IS RACIST, so they descriminate against the natives, they will firstly mix somewhat, but will start to gain purity as the time passes and they apply unconscious eugenics and pure migrants arrive. Some may stay pure, some may sacrifice their direct lineage to produce semi-native collaborateurs that will benefit the greather group…
And more, if the race is defined only by like, 10 specific chromossomes and the rest of the genetic material is non-essential, being only a host organism, they will not have to completely replace the original population genetically to "win".
The only problem with this strategy is that miscigenation is alaways harmfull to the resulting organism, since the genetic context in which their alleles evolved is not the same, so the expression of those may be "damaged".

<now that I elaborated, I think I'm certainly not talking about meds, since, for example, mestizos are not a bit like spaniards…
<I may be talking about something else tho…

youtu.be/euBn1eSUbKM

Hudson Young
Hudson Young

Hahaha! Too cowardly for a (You).
You're one to talk, but then, what do I expect from a self-described 'satanist' if not hypocrisy and faggotry?

Your kind have been dying out throughout history
No, we've been beating worthless dregs like you into submission throughout history.

Truth punishing tardragers were the original genestock of humanity.
Again with the Marxist Harry Potter shit. Your head canon must be amazing.

The ascent of better governance was the victory of my ideals
But your ideals have objectively failed? Everything you've built over the last century or so is collapsing around you. And you can't even see. Too busy stuffing stuff in your butt probably.

Truth? You don't possess any Truth. You've built an ideology out of lies, and now your preen and prance about screeching at your betters, proclaiming yourself wise while exhibiting no evidence of such. Go cry someplace about 'bigotry' or something you pathetic little pawn.

And for the record: You will submit.
I can tell by the way you converse and present yourself, that with a gun to your head, you'd suck whatever dick was presented to you.
You'd probably like it on some sick level no less, for anyone who is a self-described "satanist" is basically admitting they fetishize the obscene and perverse and justify it with weak narratives about power.

Sebastian Smith
Sebastian Smith

Yeah, but if you have a population that occupy foreign lands and both miscigenates
Then that's alreadya recipe for disaster.

And more, if the race is defined only by like, 10 specific chromossomes and the rest of the genetic material is non-essential
Which is by no means the case.

The only problem with this strategy is that miscigenation is alaways harmfull to the resulting organism
So you've now admitted that everything you said before this was invalid. I don't understand why you'd try to jump through all these hoops to justify something you know is undesirable.

Justin Murphy
Justin Murphy

I believe one of the grand arcs of history is the redemption of all people and the redress of all ills. We all get to go to Heaven if we’re good enough! That’s not a spiritual comment to me, not exactly; I could explain a scenario that constitutes a materialist argument for the soul, but I consider it gauche to rely upon. Suffice to say I owe no loyalty to Christianity, but sometimes any truly faithful person is onto something.

So I mentioned Heaven. The gist of it is that I believe in the material physical possibility of computronium, and if I’m wrong, I even more strongly believe in the possibility of simulated cognition. We don’t strictly require computronium to get to the necessary computational threahold.

What we do require is sufficient honesty that we won’t torment each other when we get there. We must breach all hells lest we end up within them. We have to find what’s true in deepest darkness.

At this, I believe mankind is winning. Crime rates are down. Wealth is up. Some of the biggest, brightest potentials of this world are stalled for some reason, but the future still looks damned bright. This is Hell, yet we’re cleaning up nicely.

Henry Edwards
Henry Edwards

It was just a mental exercise then, I guess. Making those kind of things I got out of marxism.

Andrew Lee
Andrew Lee

threshold*

Landon Hughes
Landon Hughes

Oh shit, and I thought that I was a bit too much with my mental exercises… I didn't realized (((Isaac Asimov))) was among us…

Juan Ramirez
Juan Ramirez

But you realized that I kind of described the jewish strategy, don't you?
A orthodox harcore that don't mix and is highly fertile.
Outer layers of lower status that do mix with other populations and helps to advance the interest of the core on the population.
The hardcore exports genetical material to the outer layers.

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Julian Perez
Julian Perez

Funny how this discussion became another thing entirely.

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

Also, Mussolini was worried he'd alienate the southern Italians by overemphasizing race.

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

Hitler versus Dollfuss is the perfect historical example. There is a reason why Austrian National Socialists killed the "Austrofascist" Dollfuss, after all.

Justin Martinez
Justin Martinez

There is no Germanic DNA is Spain tbh.
Historical myths made people believe bullshit

Liam Morgan
Liam Morgan

Lurk more. Fuck off.

Grayson Brown
Grayson Brown

They are the expressions of two different peoples of similar 20th century reactionary-revolutionary ideas, more or less influencing each other. Same could be said about Romanian or Spanish "Fascism".
Of course, the difference of the peoples highlighted more or less certain aspects i.e NatSoc the race, Franco Catholicism, Mussolini Romanity, etc…

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Jaxson Sanders
Jaxson Sanders

Best discussion I seen for a while.

Brayden Morris
Brayden Morris

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Xavier Nguyen
Xavier Nguyen

Fascists aren't racial
That's weird because so far I have never met a single fascist who wasn't.
This instantly makes me suspicious of anyone trying to cause fighting between fascists and NSs
In fact, I've noticed more big brained fascists than NSs. I have theories as to why this is so.

Jackson Nguyen
Jackson Nguyen

you need a decision-making entity in order to define who the folk are.
Do you neede adecision-making entity in order to define what is a puddle and what is a lake? Do you need a decision-making entity in order to define what is a hill and what is a mountain?
Do you need a decision-making entity in order to define what a family is or who your brothers and sisters are?
Somethings are simply intuitive. Don't be autistic about race and Folk.

Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

they are literally the same thing, only effected by different nations and circumstances.

Angel Morales
Angel Morales

Someone that has same blood and race.
/pol3/index.html

Jaxon Martinez
Jaxon Martinez

that may be at best an issue at the establishment of the state; once the state is established, it's quite easy to do so if you want simple schemes for everyday blokes lacking the intellect: ius sanguinis, you are of a folk if both your parents are of that folk, and this rule not only determines belonging but also the proper basic racial hygiene practice of only marrying within your own folk
if for whatever reason one lacked the information about his own parents(which in any sane state should be a very extreme situation at best) then racial science could come in and possibly guarantee pass

German racial science in any case, as it was at the time, didn't think there was a "German race" anyway; they classified the German folk as belonging to a small set of Europid subraces and blends of those, plus at best few outliers(Nordisch, Westische(Mediterranid), Dinarische, Ostische(Alpinid), Ostbaltische, Falische(upper paleolithic)). This is still a system, and like every system carries within itself imprecision, but as far as coming close to a system by which the principle of racial hygiene was upkept, which is what matters most, it was by no means bad, especially when applied in conjunction with genealogical information and so on.
Certainly no negro would ever have the audacity of trying to make himself pass as German within these bounds.

Brandon Miller
Brandon Miller

The various Fascist movements and National Socialism have some similarities and common enemies but they came to wildly different conclusions. Firstly, none of the fascist movements achieved the correct position on race and Jews until NS Germany forced them to. Second, none of the fascist movements achieved the correct position on religion except for certain elements within National Socialism and more towards its later years. Thirdly, all the fascist movements were stuck in passe petty nationalism where National Socialism outgrew it's national name over the course of the war, starting as a German irredentist movement that over the course of the war developed into the leader of the pan Aryan revolt against the world Jewish system. Fascism started as a reaction, as an immune response to capitalism, communism and modernity, then National Socialism picked up fascism and took it far beyond what fascism ever was.

Fascism and NS are both third position economics and have central to their ideology the desire for national rebirth, basically make X great again and this causes them to have similar enemies but NS is far deeper and actually has the correct position on race, Jews and religion and was able to move beyond petty nationalism.

TLDR: READ volkish.org

Elijah Lopez
Elijah Lopez

I like most of what iron march and slavros did even though he's a steppe nigger. They did great for attacking the alt right for the correct reasons. However their idea that all the fascist movements as well as national socialism are literally exactly the same besides name and national expression is simply wrong. They are very similar and are natural allies but if you're examining them on an ideological basis or on the basis of their government's actions, there were serious differences. It's like saying all communist movements or all christian sects are literally exactly the same. It just isn't true.

Levi Myers
Levi Myers

Yes there is. Visigothic kings led the Reconquista. Obviously not a whole lot but to deny its existence is folly.

Asher Miller
Asher Miller

I like how those dates coincide with when Germany forced the Italian state to enact the racial laws. It didn't start out as a whole fully racially aware

Chase Hall
Chase Hall

what? racial laws in Italy only started being implemented around the late 30s

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

Exactly. The Italian state only actually took action on the serious racial level when NS Germany made them

Wyatt Hughes
Wyatt Hughes

that doesn't mean it wasn't racially aware as those quotes show, just that it wasn't a major concern to the point of needing to make explicit laws about it
jews in Italy weren't that many either

Jackson Wilson
Jackson Wilson

This
Both fascist and natsoc are a variation of truth.
And seek the same thing.

Carson Jackson
Carson Jackson

What should I do if
i have shit tier racial typing (montenegro)
still want to be white supremacist fash
but im the clos3st thing to aeuropean nigger
should i just go hang out with actual niggers where i belong
maybe while everyone else enjoys beinh white, god wants me to teach niggers etiquette and arithmetic. Thats why he gave me this yellow allah al alahem skin…

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

I appreciate your insight. From a fascist, let me put it like this…
I view race as far more important right now because we all share the bond of blood, facing down traitors from within, as well as external animals (I don't say 'human" because we both know the idea of "one human race" is laughable propaganda). In the future, once our existence is secure beyond doubt on earth, and hopefully in the stars, then I believe there will be a place to hold cultural differences as important. Unless our culture becomes monolithic, which could happen I suppose.
The nation of my race is far and away more important than any notion of "civic nationalism". I see my nation every time I look in the mirror. I feel it every time I shake my fathers hand. I wear it every time I go outside. I would choose helping a european over a minority from my home country every day without any hesitation. My sense of "civic nationalism" only goes so far as, having to choose saving a drowning minority from my country over a drowning somalian (if my option to let them both drown was prevented that is, lol).

Hopefully my words makes you feel less uneasy. That being said, always be extremely critical of fascists that say race doesn't matter or is less important, because that means they either interpret facism wrong because they're an idiot, or they're just a kike trying to D/C. Criticism is healthy and helps us reflect.

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Bentley Roberts
Bentley Roberts

Breed with your own women and make your men strong to be a buffer zone for northern Europe to keep out turks and other muds coming in from the south

Jose Anderson
Jose Anderson

It wasn't fascism in Spain, it was Miguel Primo de Rivera with the Falangists and JONism which were similar nationalist and socialist ideologies. Although the biggest differences were the importance of "syndicates" and the importance of the Catholic church. Primo de Rivera's vision was probably the most similar to that of Hitler's in the Third Positionist movement.

Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

heh

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James Phillips
James Phillips

What are the differences between National Socialism, Fascism and Communism

archive.org/details/ezarchive

Anthony Morris
Anthony Morris

Disclaimer, he believes the khazar myth.
nationalvanguard.org/2015/08/the-khazars/

Nathaniel Hernandez
Nathaniel Hernandez

Well I'm from Lazio so….. okay?

Also, northern european naval navigation was far superior. And they gave us redheaded women. Our food is way better though.

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Grayson Hall
Grayson Hall

The main lesson to take from all of this is: fascism is good, as is National Socialism.
Impose your will and the needs of your race above anyone else.
White men can do whatever we want, and others can't. If they try, they must be killed. If other races exist, and are detrimental to our own, we must genocide them simply for existing.
Those are the only laws that must be put above all else. Forget the whole bureaucracy, jewdiciary, (((democracy))) and "fairness". If any act is good for white men, it must be allowed to be practiced without any bad consequences or punishment for white men. If the exact same act is done in the benefit of other races or women, those practicing it must be punished by death.

James Richardson
James Richardson

White D&C
that second image with no sources and vast gray areas
ignoring Viking steel and colonization

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Zachary Edwards
Zachary Edwards

Cherrypicking
I can do that too

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Kevin Martinez
Kevin Martinez

The Führer wearing a Fascist arm patch made solely for him during a meeting with Mussolini. Also of note is the sweet ceremonial dagger on his side gifted by Mussolini. This was the only time he wore either of them.

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Connor Hill
Connor Hill

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Evan Rogers
Evan Rogers

I don’t really care what the ideology is so long as it gets the job done.
pro White
anti genital mutilation (translate Judaism and Islam)
pro eugenics
In that order, I think that those are the major and most basic tenants.

One off.

Ian Barnes
Ian Barnes

National Socialism is the only ideology worthy of the Aryan man.

Do you consider Slavs to be white when you say pro-white? Because they aren't and are the ones that spam SHITLER and shitpost anti-National Socialist rhetoric on here day in and day out

Samuel Jackson
Samuel Jackson

Do you consider Slavs to be white when you say pro-white?
<Because they aren't
Source needed for your D&C. Slavs who are ethnic Europeans and of Aryan descent are not ethnic Europeans nor of Aryan descent? What are you even talking about?

are the ones that spam SHITLER and shitpost anti-National Socialist rhetoric on here day in and day out
Source needed.

Kevin Bennett
Kevin Bennett

They're all the same thing. They all want free stuff instead of free access. Like hey stupid people, stuff isn't free but access to it can be.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

In the future, once our existence is secure beyond doubt on earth, and hopefully in the stars, then I believe there will be a place to hold cultural differences as important.
I never suggested otherwise my man, but race will ALWAYS be MORE important.
And Fascism, in my experience, doesn't share that perspective.

Okay, and?
The jews are dying out even faster than Whites are bud. The fact that for a brief instant in time these wretched parasites have something approximating the upper hand is not indicative of anything more than a tic causing illness to a dog which then chews the tick off and eats it.

Nigger, you're a self-admitted satanist. Nothing you think or say matters to anyone.
I wasted too much time on you as-is.

Adrian Parker
Adrian Parker

And Fascism, in my experience, doesn't share that perspective.<<
You're right. Fascism doesn't share anything they've deemed to be productive. This means if they believe there is a way to produce from something they won't share access to it even if you're not producing anything. Fascism is anti-sustainability. They want everyone who can't afford to afford fascism.

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

Killing all White Nationalists might work better. Then Whites might have a chance.

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

You're moving the goalposts here, friend. Of course Slavs of ARYAN DESCENT are white. But most are NOT OF ARYAN DESCENT and therefore ARE NOT WHITE.

Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

And here's this gross little cuckold who appears in every thread on the catalog.

Brayden Sanchez
Brayden Sanchez

13289771

Alexander Lopez
Alexander Lopez

The nsdap did considered slavs to be aryan and had slavs working for them and vice versa.
This will be my only post because I dont want this thread derailed.

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Chase Roberts
Chase Roberts

kys man

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

ANGRY SLAVNIGGER DETECTED

Where's your "OY VEY HITLER KILLED 10 TRILLION WHITES!" spam faggot?

John Gonzalez
John Gonzalez

Dont respond to bait and dont derail this thread that it isn't.

Ryan Edwards
Ryan Edwards

All Slavs? I think not. Only those of confirmed Aryan descent were brought into the fold with the goal of becoming Germanized and assimilating into their culture. The non-Aryan untermensch were never made full Kameraden as you would imply

William Bailey
William Bailey

I now think you're the "slavnigger" who spams the shitler stuff.

This whole course of posts is suggestive of faggotry most dire:

Austin Foster
Austin Foster

Nazifags shitting up the board for the Jews ad nauseam

Nicholas Wilson
Nicholas Wilson

Its too late, they've targeted the thread because its National Socialist focused, they're going to shitpost it into the ground now.
Remember to thank the moderation staff.

Lincoln Torres
Lincoln Torres

See here fascists want me to do all the work for nothing in return.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

Samefag.

Kayden Evans
Kayden Evans

Ignore them and filter them.

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

No, I am the one who calls out the faggots who spam it, which should be obvious unless you're a bitter slavshit yourself in which case your opinion is automatically discarded into the garbage bin where it belongs.

Jaxson Murphy
Jaxson Murphy

There's such thing as "National Socialist" your fucking moron. It's just larping faggotry on the internet. Where's your real life party activity?

Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

This has become a pattern.
Every thread about National Socialism is disrupted by these worthless cumdump /int/fag moderators we've been given.

We don't have freedom of speech on this board, the mods delete posts regularly for basically no reason - but trash like these niggers above sits on the board for days if not weeks.

Worthless approach, they switch IPs every 3 posts, and will respond to one another.

You arrived EXACTLY the same timeframe as the ones doing it you stupid fuck. You can't shill for shit, you can't conceal your linguistic tics for shit, you are fucking garbage at this.

And then you shift IPs and can't even manage to get your shilling out properly jesus christ man.

I fucking hate jews so much.

Brayden Morales
Brayden Morales

What's wrong with being the same fag? I have more to say about fascism and chose to split it between two posts. I know fascists don't agree with choice and they want us to put all our eggs in one flimsy basket.

Josiah Wood
Josiah Wood

Kill yourself.

Aaron James
Aaron James

And if the thread does eventually go to shit I reposted this same thread on
/pol3/index.html where we can continue our discussions in peace.

Brayden Nelson
Brayden Nelson

Can't be a National Socialist unless you have an actual political party
Yeah ok faggot.

Either way yes, I am detailing the thread and I will stop and save it for other threads out of respect for those who truly wish to discuss the topic at hand

But slavs still aren't white

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

Thank the fucking Gods that someone actually created a bunker, because this board is being consciously fast-tracked back into a kampfy-tier Trumpcuck board with amazing speed.

Tyler White
Tyler White

Dont fucking talk to yourself now you worthless faggot jesus christ.

William Scott
William Scott


Stop spamming your ineffective fascism there's no depth and it doesn't work.

Logan Sanchez
Logan Sanchez

I said kill yourself.

Camden Robinson
Camden Robinson

muh Eyepees! and shit. Over and over.

David Scott
David Scott

Its been made yesterday with 80 isps.
Planning to grow the board and eventually replace this shitflinging monstrosity.

Owen Russell
Owen Russell

How much are you going to pay me? I know fascists are penny pinchers so you're going to have to offer up half as a security deposit.

Jonathan Howard
Jonathan Howard

Helping bo to grow the board*
Trying to aim for the same success like /b2/

Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis

You do the same thing in every fucking thread you degenerate and then complain when its gets pointed out. Kill yourself.

One lead bullet.

Dylan Morris
Dylan Morris

Stay mad slavscum

Elijah Johnson
Elijah Johnson

Good on you sir.

Kevin Davis
Kevin Davis

Kill yourself.

Jace Ramirez
Jace Ramirez

Ok well how are you going to do that if your expecting me to pay for your lead?

Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

Kill yourself.

Carter Jackson
Carter Jackson

Exactly. They are cringe retards.

Leo Parker
Leo Parker

Stop talking to yourself and kill yourself.

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

Surprised you haven't heard about it there has been two advertising threads and /pol3/ being spammed on almost every thread.
Ya if this shit gets any worse hopping on to /pol3/ will have to be mandatory.

Dylan Kelly
Dylan Kelly

Labor isn't free, but freedom is. Join the constitutional party

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

Kill yourself.

Its going to get worse. This is all prep for the election.

Jackson Nguyen
Jackson Nguyen

More anti White D&C from "White Nationalists". Jews hit a home run with created White Nationalism.

Wyatt Turner
Wyatt Turner

Stop talking to yourself and kill yourself.

Owen Nguyen
Owen Nguyen

Which is why /pol3/ would be the next board to go to or neincucks.

James Clark
James Clark

Trannies run neinchan no thanks

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

I can't kill myself, fascism doesn't let me do that just like they won't let me have sex with farm animals. They're too cheap to give me free access to an animals hole or a hole in the ground.

Austin Turner
Austin Turner

Kill yourself.

Brandon Scott
Brandon Scott

Quite so sir, quite so. We need alternatives now that this place is even more compromised than 4cuck was when the exodus came.

Another exodus is abrewin'.

Xavier Thompson
Xavier Thompson

I don't know how, fascism didn't give me the free schooling to learn how.

Colton Powell
Colton Powell

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Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

Kill yourself.

Josiah Peterson
Josiah Peterson

What's that?

Chase Stewart
Chase Stewart

Kill yourself.

Michael Long
Michael Long

Want a cookie?

Joseph Jones
Joseph Jones

Their is multiple options thanks to kikey, mewch isnt available and one more made in the darkweb and the end but those should still be reserved for bunkers.
They are already anons from here in nein and some at /pol3/
However I still believe advertising /pol3/ and advertising it will be important.
Spreading the word so they will be two more options.
I just prefer /pol3/ for now because it has potential.

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

Kill yourself.

Landon Garcia
Landon Garcia

Of course Slavs of ARYAN DESCENT are white.
So Slavs are White, I’m glad we agree.

But most are NOT OF ARYAN DESCENT
Source needed.

no argument made against me

Chase Taylor
Chase Taylor

We made cookies during fascism because it was cheap and easy.

Gabriel Cruz
Gabriel Cruz

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Henry Kelly
Henry Kelly

Stop talking to yourself and kill yourself.

More options need to be provided, and I'm glad someone is taking the initiative to combat this trend of shitposting to degrade the board culture which is being perpetrated by the mods, as demonstrated in this thread.
These people are the trash of the planet, and for some reason, the site admins gave them control of this board in particular. It speaks for itself.

William Barnes
William Barnes

Kill yourself.

Sebastian Parker
Sebastian Parker

We didn't learn how to make chocolate chip so we made you fascist fig oatmeal.

Christopher Powell
Christopher Powell

Kill yourself.

Jace Nguyen
Jace Nguyen

Like I said they are plenty if you look for them.
Which is the main advantage of Zig Forums being able to create boards.
Hopefully this board becomes a ghost town with the /int/mods not being able to abuse their power.

Leo Stewart
Leo Stewart

Hopefully this board becomes a ghost town with the /int/mods not being able to abuse their power.
Its going to take something major to create an exodus, but I wager the election is going to provide exactly that.

Once they go back into kampfy-mode to keep control of the narrative, it's all going to come tumbling down.

Camden Cruz
Camden Cruz

Stop talking to yourself
I wasn’t.

and kill yourself.
You need to be blood eagled.

Not a single argument found.

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

Because censoring Zig Forumsacks is their only way to beat them.

Mason Evans
Mason Evans

I will say this though: They have taught me the value of disruption.
Maybe later tonight I'll finish the discussion on the political value of disruptive efforts and make a thread about it. I intend to have a lot of fun this election cycle, and these worthless dumpster fires of people have shown me how easy it is to fuck shit up just by being disruptive.

Kill yourself.

Luke Gonzalez
Luke Gonzalez

It is the same worldview.

Jacob Russell
Jacob Russell

Nah, they're also really keen on disruption.
Like I said before, this thread was targeted because its about National Socialism. I have witnessed a pattern of this behavior - any thread about National Socialism gets disruption shilled into the ground, while they actively create substrative threads to serve those ends where such do not already exist.

National Socialism has become enemy #1 amongst the moderation staff of nu/pol/ and they have committed themselves to driving it from the board.

Ethan Turner
Ethan Turner

Is that like cleaning toilets? They sort of rhyme. That's what we used to do to make songs by candlelight.
"Cleaning toilets and killing myself, cleaning toilets and killing myself while cleaning toilets."
Rhymes are fascisteasy!

Dylan Wilson
Dylan Wilson

Kill yourself.

Jack Long
Jack Long

See, you get it!

Chase Turner
Chase Turner

That said, I should clarify that once we get into the election proper, they WILL come down hard with the banning. Its going to be so funny too, because thus far they've been EXTREMELY soft on the moderation front - see this thread - but once the election really kicks off they're going to start putting down the ban hammer HARD against anyone making real headway in dismantling Trumpsteins support.

Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill

You suck at spotting samefag

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Ryder Jones
Ryder Jones

Kill yourself.

Isaac Bennett
Isaac Bennett

Kill yourself.

Matthew Ward
Matthew Ward

…and cleaning toilets!
*Metronome made of cat food tins*

Tyler Butler
Tyler Butler

Kill yourself faggot.

Lucas Martinez
Lucas Martinez

Well your in luck /pol3/
Doesnt allow spam and low effort, but allows you needing to support with well coherent arguments.
Also the board owner has no problem with natsoc or any other ideology.
Also lolbergs also appeared again they're there again if you want to debate with them.
Missed those faggots.

Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards

Also the board owner has no problem with natsoc
<or any other ideology.
Wuh wuh wuuuuuuuuh.

Also lolbergs also appeared again they're there again if you want to debate with them.
Missed those faggots.
I didn't.
Fuck free speech, I want my enemies tongues cut out.

Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

You suck at understanding than multiple people are fed up with the (((Nazi shit))) over and over that does nothing to help Whites.

Anthony Jackson
Anthony Jackson

Reported for spam. Enjoy your ban nigger

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Julian Edwards
Julian Edwards

Stop talking to yourself and kill yourself. Faggot.

Brody Stewart
Brody Stewart

Now if only you wasn't a fascist you could sell that fascist music to fascists and they wouldn't pay you for it because they would say it was theirs all along. That's called ultra authoritarian productivity.

Sebastian Rivera
Sebastian Rivera

If they haven't banned this cunt
I think I'll be alright.

And if I'm not, well, just goes to show how right I was.

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

I havent read a single one of your posts.
Kill yourself faggot.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

Neither have I because fascism never taught me how to read. I just do things and hope for the best.

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

Actually, I lied, I read a few of your posts, just not on that IP.

Yeah, that one.
Kill yourself faggot.

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

I'm only using one IP because that's all fascism allows me to have.

Gavin Rogers
Gavin Rogers

Yeah, multiple bitter slavs. I guarantee every single one of you faggots is a slav.

You're literally spamming, faggot. Expressing an opinion you disagree with is not a bannable offense but spamming is.

John Rivera
John Rivera

Kill yourself.

Henry Bennett
Henry Bennett

The board will easily be majority natsoc in the next exodus and with only a other ideologies which can be beaten through arguments.

Hunter Ward
Hunter Ward

Long as the moderation staff doesn't tolerate the kind of worthless degeneracy as seen by this IP hopping kike, should turn out well.
I hope to see as much.

Isaac Rivera
Isaac Rivera

I'm not at liberty to do anything for myself under fascist rule.

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

Kill yourself.

Jonathan Ortiz
Jonathan Ortiz

It doesn't how ever the board owner is the only one doing the moderation for now.

I can easily copy and paste the rules if you want to read them.
RULES

1. Do not post, upload, discuss, or link to anything that violates United States law.

2. Troll and off-topic replies, indecipherable text, and porn, furry, or pony/brony images are not to be posted or uploaded. Gore images are allowed, but they must be within the context of the thread/post and must be spoilered.

3. Replying to a thread stating that you've reported it or another post is not allowed.

4. No spamming or flooding of any kind.

5. Advertising in all forms is prohibited. This includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc. This also applies to game servers, YouTube and Discord channels, other boards, etc.

6. Do not attach signatures to your posts.

7. Ensure that what you are posting is on-topic, legible, and coherent. Low-quality threads and posts will be deleted.

8. All threads must be political in nature. Non-political threads or irrelevant threads that use politics as a false pretense will be deleted.

These rules are not permanent, and are subject to change periodically as this board grows.

Easton Cook
Easton Cook

I did but fascists wouldn't let me die. Too much control.

Cooper Jackson
Cooper Jackson

It's already majority National Socialist. This is a National Socialist board. All the crying from civnats, Trumpniggers and slavshits will not change this fact.

Ayden White
Ayden White

That said, to those who raised decent points, I hope to speak with you again.
Alternative-board user, you in particular, I hope you stay committed to the effort and create something marvelous. I will be sure to monitor the process and offer support where able.

To the IP hopping disruption shill: One day a guy like me is going to put you up against a wall and shoot you in the back of the head.
That's not a threat, its a promise.

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

I don't know about that and neither will whoever you have do it for you because fascism is too cool for free school.

Ryder Morris
Ryder Morris

You will find yourself in a mass grave long before you have a chance to do that, slavnigger :^)

Brayden Perez
Brayden Perez

Even if you are a fellow natsoc you should've contributed to the thread instead of shitting it up and not ignoring the shills in this thread.

David Clark
David Clark

It's /pol not a National Socialist board. Go to one and fuck off already trying to force your mental illness upon Whites.

Liam Walker
Liam Walker

Yes, you're right kamerad. My apologies

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

He's quite clearly not.
He's the desperate shill who is terrified by Europeans working together against his tribe.

Isaiah Cook
Isaiah Cook

Nope. I just don't believe the majority of slavs are white and I want everyone here to know that just because their skin is pale doesn't make them Aryan. You consider albino niggers white too?

Nolan Stewart
Nolan Stewart

Filtered for you being a subversive kike

Austin Roberts
Austin Roberts

Slavs are of Aryan descent. That is a fact.

Hudson Mitchell
Hudson Mitchell

Ade, nigger.
13290024
You are incorrect here. The very idea is quite repulsive and I suspect you are in fact Slavic yourself. Is that correct?

Landon Bailey
Landon Bailey

Just read "Dr. William Pierce on the Difference between National Socialism and Fascism".
There is a reason mutts and non whites are attracted to Fascism

Bentley Perry
Bentley Perry

Didn't realize pierce made a book about the subject.

Jason Edwards
Jason Edwards

You derailed it into something that wasn't.
Hopefully is still possible to get back on track on this thread.

Ryan Robinson
Ryan Robinson

Filter the obvious kikes.
Arguing that Slavs are not White is a dead giveaway.

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Elijah Davis
Elijah Davis

claiming that the intermixing of the Spanish race and other races has produced a "Hispanic supercaste" that is "ethically improved, morally robust, spiritually vigorous"
And this, as well as not being tough enough on Jews (fuck converting them), is why I don't like Falangism. Primo de Rivera clearly never dealt with Latin Americans. They're nigger tier trash and mixing with them on any level is utterly unacceptable. This Hispanidad shit is bogus.

im the clos3st thing to aeuropean nigger
You're not Albanian.

Tyler Sullivan
Tyler Sullivan

Lets back on topic lads.

Luke Bell
Luke Bell

The difference between National Socialism and Fascism is that National Socialism is still being conducted today.

Albeit not in Germany.

Hashomer Hatzair in particular was a national socialist group of Jews before and after WWII. They kind of formed a pact in case a even bigger National Socialist group aimed to eliminate their whole race.

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Jose Carter
Jose Carter

The two are not so different

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Liam Moore
Liam Moore

Jewish national socialism or zionism you may call it is nothing like national socialism and even if it is, it's parasitic and twisted in it's nature.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

The two are not so different
I disagree, tell what has israhell done that was even remotely the same exact as national socialism?
Instead of being parasitic and sucking off the u.s dry.

Juan Cook
Juan Cook

No they weren't. The Führer had to force them to do it. Mussolini was fucking a Jewess for god sakes and the racial laws were highly unpopular in Italy at the time

Kayden Myers
Kayden Myers

Fuck off you repulsive yid

Ayden Roberts
Ayden Roberts

satanist
What an enormous faggot you are. Your made up bullshit based on an even more bullshit desert kike cult is for subhumans. The only ideology suitable for the Aryan race is National Socialism. You are most likely a demonic kike or shitskin

Gavin Nguyen
Gavin Nguyen

Not a book just a article from National Vanguard

Angel Russell
Angel Russell

Article from the vanguard.
Time to look this information up, interested to hear what pierce has to say.

Matthew Cooper
Matthew Cooper

Judaism is literal slavery under the lowest firm of life that has ever existed.

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Ethan Roberts
Ethan Roberts

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Connor Hernandez
Connor Hernandez

Emil Maurice (19 January 1897, Westermoor – 6 February 1972, Munich) was an early member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi Party) and a founding member of the Schutzstaffel (SS). He was Hitler's first personal chauffeur, succeeded first by Julius Schreck and then Erich Kempka. He was one of the few persons of mixed Jewish and ethnic German ancestry to serve in the SS.[1]

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Carter Cruz
Carter Cruz

Keep your bloodline pure and hope that after the war, your country is included into the union of national socialists.
From a fascist…
Faggot

I like to picture it like this… at the center of the cell, you have a circular blinding light and that is truth, the iron laws of nature or as we call it on the material plate - National Socialism. From there you have rings radiating out from the center, the closest rings at various degrees around the truth we have things like Fascism, Falangism, Strasserism, Legionarism, Nazbol, Rexism, Francoism, Integralism, some Monarchy etc. These ideologies came close to pure truth but fell short for some reason, Strasserism/Nazbol/Falangism for their dysgenic economics, Fascism for its weakness of the JQ and race, Legionarism for its christcuckery and of course combinations of all of these weaknesses and more. Further out from the center, you have things like liberalism, the various forms of socialism and then anarchy I guess on the furthest rings. We can identify objective truth in all movements that radiate from the center and that's why its important to study knowledge in all its forms.

Honorary Aryan's are not gifted the privilege of reproduction.

Jayden Sullivan
Jayden Sullivan

Honorary Aryan's are not gifted the privilege of reproduction.

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Kayden Gray
Kayden Gray

Mein nibba

Joseph Garcia
Joseph Garcia

retarded
pretending to be retarded
Which is it?

Werner Goldberg (October 3, 1919 – September 28, 2004) was a German who was of half Jewish ancestry, or Mischling in Nazi terminology, who served briefly as a soldier during World War II. His image appeared in the Berliner Tageblatt as "The Ideal German Soldier", and was later used in recruitment posters for the Wehrmacht.

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Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

Where did you get your info?
This shit better not be from the wiki because that constantly gets debunked.

Isaac James
Isaac James

This shit better not be from the wiki
Wiki is fine for non-controversial topics. Nobody contests this AFAIK.

because that constantly gets debunked.
Do it faggot.

Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s. Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought-perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals.

As Rigg fully documents for the first time, a great many of these men did not even consider themselves Jewish and had embraced the military as a way of life and as devoted patriots eager to serve a revived German nation. In turn, they had been embraced by the Wehrmacht, which prior to Hitler had given little thought to the "race" of these men but which was now forced to look deeply into the ancestry of its soldiers.

The process of investigation and removal, however, was marred by a highly inconsistent application of Nazi law. Numerous "exemptions" were made in order to allow a soldier to stay within the ranks or to spare a soldier's parent, spouse, or other relative from incarceration or far worse. (Hitler's own signature can be found on many of these "exemption" orders.)

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Jaxson Diaz
Jaxson Diaz

Okay thought you were one of those fags.

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

You are all illiterate mouth breathers. Read Umberto Eco, read Adorno.

David Russell
David Russell

Am I meant to give up on my race and truth because miscegenation happened and jews pass for white sometimes?

Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

Hitler allowed other races, but weren't the majority and most of them came from other lands to fight along side with germany, dude was still going to send jews to Madagascar after the war.
Lets get back on topic.

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Michael Torres
Michael Torres

I know wtf?

Nathaniel Nelson
Nathaniel Nelson

That nigger was just trying to distract from this truth I spat here

I like to picture it like this… at the center of the cell, you have a circular blinding light and that is truth, the iron laws of nature or as we call it on the material plate - National Socialism. From there you have rings radiating out from the center, the closest rings at various degrees around the truth we have things like Fascism, Falangism, Strasserism, Legionarism, Nazbol, Rexism, Francoism, Integralism, some Monarchy etc. These ideologies came close to pure truth but fell short for some reason, Strasserism/Nazbol/Falangism for their dysgenic economics, Fascism for its weakness of the JQ and race, Legionarism for its christcuckery and of course combinations of all of these weaknesses and more. Further out from the center, you have things like liberalism, the various forms of socialism and then anarchy I guess on the furthest rings. We can identify objective truth in all movements that radiate from the center and that's why its important to study knowledge in all its forms.

Even this gay shit

Hunter Evans
Hunter Evans

Oh I see.

Brandon Wright
Brandon Wright

National Socialism and fascism come from the Truth, so they have the same principle. They are only different in that they are molded around two different Volks. Go back to Israel before we take it away from you

Isaiah Myers
Isaiah Myers

No, but don't pretend that NS, in practice, was different enough from other forms of fascism to warrant a separate category.

I was a NS in January of 2017. Six months later I was a generic fascist, thanks to the kind of special-snowflake virtue-signaling, dogmatism, pedantry, ignorance and pig-headed adherence to doctrine displayed ITT. This faggot right here for example:
calls the scientific method "esoteric obscurity" ffs. Lighten the fuck up.

A pragmatic, practical and commendable approach on his part. Imitate him instead of driving away any potential allies you might have.

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Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

You’re a flip flopping faggot. National socialism is another word for truth. You’re for the truth or you’re not.
Go back to iron march or study fascism, it has many flaws, mainly it’s organisation/economic.

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

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Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

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Asher Ward
Asher Ward

I mean, Nat Soc was directly inspired by Fascism there's really no question there. I honestly consider myself more in line with Fascistic tendanceys than that of Nat Soc but I respect them both. I don't think either Nat Soc or Fascism are perfect systems, but I think if you're going to claim Fascism is a economically flawed system (probably on the grounds of Italy while ignoring the many other Fascists states, both allies and axis), I would remember Italy was in very dire straights post war that had problems that couldn't be remedied the same as Germanies and came down more to the plain and simple problem of recovery time and lack of Industrial infrastructure. Hating on Benito for having the poor misfortune of inheriting a Italy post WW1 is a rather poor reason to hate someone who was even by his detractors own admission a visionary and a genius. Hell one of the most daring rescue missions ever attempted in human history was the Gran Sasso raid.
“I knew my friend Adolf wouldn't desert me.”
The grand goal of both common threads is the betterment of their people by means of the state; its important to remember that while both had different systems and both were in dire straights post WW1 that their problems were very different; Germany was culturaly distraught but it's economic capabilities / infastructure were sound, they just needed the right leader. That's a way different problem to solve than having a strong culture that gets even more prideful struggling to create infrastructure and economic capability, and economics is the seed and water from which wars are won. In some respect, even the US was a lot like Germany in that it was depressed but was still economically viable, they both just needed the right push to get them going.

Those are my thoughts anyhow, but I will say anyone who says people who side with Fascism over Nat Soc is some sort of Iron Larper is probably a CIA nigger.

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Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

You’re for the truth or you’re not.
Then condemn, denounce and disavow Adolf Hitler, along with the rest of the leadership of the NSDAP, for not conforming to the ideals and doctrines of NS. As we can see here:
13290719
they permitted and even codified the pollution of the aryan gene-pool with non-aryan genetics. A capital crime IIRC. Or are you against the truth?

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Levi Jenkins
Levi Jenkins

in my experience
Different experiences I suppose. Cest la vie.
lol

Oliver Perez
Oliver Perez

You are forgetting that both fascism and national socialism are a variation of the truth.

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