Could Euro-sceptic/Nationalist countries form a rival Trading block to the EU

Ryder Martin
Ryder Martin

Why don't Nationalist countries advocate for a better modified version of the EU that operates as originally intended, a trade union.

The problem with the EU is that no matter what you vote for the EU is structured in such a way that it cannot be reformed, at least not from the outside or democratically.It is a lost cause, the people in charge are unaccountable to anyone and won't appoint anyone who isn't apart of their ideological position. Junker isn't going to pass on his position to a Populist.

The only Option is to leave the EU. The biggest argument that is levied against that is the economic drawbacks to doing so (as if that takes precedents over sovereignty). So rectify that problem by creating a different union. The biggest caveat to this is finding enough nations to participate, and also preferable share a boarder and/or are interconnected by a boarder.

Currently the biggest nationalist contenders, Italy, Poland, Hungary, would be the leaders in the formation of this new union. I could see other nations potentially joining as well with proper incentives (gibs, but where do they come from is the question, as Italy would be the largest contributor).

Why isn't this an option proposed by anyone?

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Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

What are the "Nationalist" countries within Europe?

Christopher Jenkins
Christopher Jenkins

Sure… but why? It's not the Economy that doesn't work in the EU, actually it's never been better, it's the goddamn regulations and economic slaps on the countries that produce too much or not enough.

Colton Parker
Colton Parker

That's sort of the point. Escaping the Bureaucratic nightmare of the EU while implementing some of the economic policies hat do work. A restructured version without unaccountable Bureaucrats.

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

Multiple problems.
How do you prevent the remaining eu from retaliation for what it's leaders will perceive as treason?
How do you prevent the new union from becoming the same bloated, bizarre kind of shit as the eu?
What would you do if others left eu and wanted to join?
And last but not least: are you sure that the politicians and parties which now call for a change aren't only doing so to become the unaccountable bureaucrats themselves?

Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

that operates as originally intended
There is no alternative. The EU works as intended.
Dig into the history of the International Steel Cartel, realize that the same people were in the Reichswerke and then became the "founding fathers" of the EU via the CECA.

Here is the list europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/history/eu-pioneers_en

I'm gonna pass on the guys that never had any power or the womyn they added to pretend they ever mattered.

Konrad Adenauer:
Pangermanist whose official EU approved history is seriously dubious (Fritz Fischer is the sauce). Admired by Hitler (Dixit Speer), pangermanist, catholic, defender of the anschluss, early opponent to Versailles diktat (which he coined), great friend of the burgers and the vatican, early and documented (by his onw hand) sympathy to the NSDAP.
He was persona non-grata in the 3rd Reich because he was close of the SA leadership.
Joseph Bech:
Luxembourg banker mainly charged with fiscal evasion and importation via switzerland for the reichwerke and other Konzerne
Johan Willem Beyen:
Director of the BIS, again major role in making sure the franco-german cartels stayed afloat during the tumultuous 30's.
Alcide De Gasperi:
I don't know him enough, but considering he was a staunch anti-communist and his bio is suspiciously empty in the 30's and 40's I can without taking any risk tell you he was probably a right wing christian that backed/worked with the fascist in the italian industry.

Walter Hallstein:
AKA the guy the official bio has never been more BS, the first President of the European Commission.
He was a fully fledged Nat-Soc (read Notker Hammerstein and Helmuth Heiber on the subject).
Yes. Not just a right wing christcuck but the real fucking deal.
He was the protege of Hans Frank member of the BNSDJ (Nat-Soc jurist association) and of the NSDDB (Nationalsozialistischer Deutscher Dozentenbund) no less, it's internal political committee, of the NS-Lehrerbund (Nazi party proper) and of the NS-Luftschutzbund (Air defense branch of the military wing of the NSDAP).
Convinced militarist he served voluntarily extra military service in 1935 (in the air defense). His staunch and early support to the NSDAP promised him to a brilliant academic career as he's made a very young dean of Rostock university in 1936 then Frankfort in 1941. He served in occupied France as Oberleutnant in 1942 and was made "NS-Führungsoffizier" with officer rank…
AKA the highest ranking of "political commissar" of the 3rd Reich and one out of 15 in the entire NSDDB which meant he was the guy on the very short list of those who decided who was Nat-soc enough to be a university professor in the 3rd Reich academia.

It's hilarious to see him listed as a "pacifist" and a "passive resistant" by the EU…

Jean Monnet:
The Vichy shill. Monnet tried (and largely succeed) to convince his american patrons to systematically support the Vichy regime.
His connection in Germany (Bosch family) helped him make "evade" (read the germans let him go) Giraud to present an alternative "resistance" leader that could takeover France should the 3rd reich lose.
Once the 3rd reich was done he totally devoted himself to the american reich like all his other friends and became the hand the of the newly created CIA in France.

Robert Schuman:
First defender of the German nature of Alsace-Lorraine and it's specific status within France, man of the Wendel and Selliere industrial banking families (see the International Steel Cartel), pan-germanist, opposed to the Diktat, he's among the very short list of people that prepared Petain coup.
His previous pro-alstatian autonomy stance (and his "active pacifism" stance during the 1393-40 war) put him at odd with the french nationalist part of the Vichy government and he lost his minister seat almost right after and even landed him a "home imprisonment" status.
Which, given his staunch pro-german views was lifted after an appeal by no less than Josef Bürckel (Gauleiter of Westmark).

Paul-Henri Spaak:
Main reason as to why France lost the war. Germanophile insisted upon no Belgian military cooperation with France and no hostility with Germany… even after Germany started to invade his country.
Ended up in England by pure happenstance.

John Barnes
John Barnes

(Hallstein was also a manager in the NSV)

Carter Walker
Carter Walker

So yeah basically the EU was founded by a bunch of lackeys to the franco-german industrial cartel that only had problems under the 3rd Reich due to them backing the wrong color of horse earlier on (but were completely 3rd Reich compatible).

Except once germany was kill, they just started the cock of their new master from beyond the sea.

Ian Carter
Ian Carter

Could Euro-sceptic/Nationalist countries form a rival Trading block to the EU
No, because their economies are too small. First, we need RN to win in France.

Kayden Cruz
Kayden Cruz

The reason why people don't want to be in the EU is because of the open borders policy. Simply remove this tyrannical feature and people will want to be a part of it.
Normal people do not like seeing their population replaced.

Brayden King
Brayden King

It's becoming so fucking cringe watching all you low iq Nazi fucks become drones in the new Holy Roman Empire.

The Nazis have always been behind the problem Jews. This is the reality. Learn your ancestor's tongues, get yourself a couple wives, and hunker down for the war. The great unveiling is upon us.

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John Rodriguez
John Rodriguez

Israel

Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

can’t be reformed
Ask for sortition panels, people. March under that banner. Ask for a polycameral solution which makes the sortition representatives just part of the system rather than ripping out extant leadership, and I bet there’d be more willingness than you expect to make the system reflect the common non-aristocrat viewpoints better.

Just don’t be shocked when sortition reveals the more twisted “common senses” not so common. I’m under no illusions that some of what I want would be drawn in on a sortition government.

David Barnes
David Barnes

Yeah this guy said it right here. One way to visualize how the Jews do the dirty work of the Fascist Germans is the example of 5G.

Alarmists like to claim 5G will be used to create a global surveillance network centered in Israel. The reality is 5G is simply another limb of the German-controlled CERN network being used to interpret global data, and ultimately, summon Apollyon.

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Carson Stewart
Carson Stewart

Also while we’re asking for wild reforms, how about funding minor surgical training for qualifying tattoo artists to replace swatches of skin with live animal grafts? It’ll become the next big thing. Hahaha!

Michael Clark
Michael Clark

You mixed mythologies. Abaddon in Juicy lore is a place, it’s Kisstian lore that makes it an angel.

Hudson Torres
Hudson Torres

QTDDTOT

Jack James
Jack James

This is a good thread topic, but most of the board is too stupid to comprehend it.

Jonathan Murphy
Jonathan Murphy

It has nothing to do with the jews.
While Hitler sure talked a mean game about "the banks and the cartels" the reality is all they really did was corralling and mistrating jewish small time jewellers and mercers… and gave them as free workers to the very same cartels (that were still in cahoots with the said international bankers that had long fled Germany… or never were even there in the first place) and never bothered to purge their creatures.
Which is why the guys that were "vampirizing germany" with the International Steel Cartel and the BIS, almost all found jobs either in the Reich or the various puppet states doing the exact same shit and when the war ended… (re)created the CECA and whose first order of business was creating the FDR and rearm it.

The problem wehrboo and Zig Forumstards will never admit is that the industrialists and nobility have always hated the german people and have systematically allied themselves with the money lenders. It was true then it's still true today.
Removing jews from the system changed utterly nothing.

The EU would still have been created and it still would have been a completely retarded "light soviet union", only with Luxembourgian or Swiss bankers instead of US/UK ones.
Economical "internationalism" is an entire concept that is only meant to fuck the people of said nations over.

Brody Perez
Brody Perez

Poland and Croatia had been working on something like that.
Three Seas Initiative

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Ian Evans
Ian Evans

Caring about Yuropoors
The internet was much better without them

Levi Ward
Levi Ward

Doesn't know that the Internet originates from Europe

Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson

Euro-sceptic
What the fuck does that even mean.

Nolan King
Nolan King

Exactly what it means.
You have the believers in the EU faith that brings peace and prosperity to your immortal soul.
And the skeptics that thinks that it might not be the case (and yes that's about it. Conservatives are skeptics as they vastly believe the EU should just be an economical union thingy).
Euro-heretics are the people that want another Europe (commies) and Euro-apostates are those that want it dead.

There is another EU propaganda pejorative term that is awesome to analyze.
"Sovereignist", which is the term they use to design to placate everyone without saying nationalists (as many of those aren't nationalists) and want the citizens of their respective countries to, at the very least, have an actual say in EU than an extremely unpopular vote (that is a fucking clusterfuck made up of nobodies) every 5 years.
Now, civics 101, in a democracy who has the sovereignty?
The citizens.
In the EU who has the sovereignty? Since EU "believers" call the guys that want a bit more power to the citizens "sovereignst" as an insult?
The EU politburo sorry, the commission.

Those terms mean exactly what they mean, it's a classic case of spin backfiring.