I have been visited by police. I have wrote some shit about minorities and that I want to kill them and shit. They want to investigate me and shit. If I won't come I will be fined. What do I say to them?
I have been visited by police
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Don't ever talk to police. Don't say anything to them, it can not help you.
Watch this youtube video:
Say nothing ignore them do not respond.
If they get in your face just go silent or repeat "no comment" or whatever or play ignorant.
You'll look suspicious if you just say nothing or stating "no comment" and that might give them probable cause
Just say "I am exercising my right to remain silent" when confronted. Then it will look more like a typical response you'd make when confronted instead of you trying to hide something.
I'm not from America but Eastern europe
They want to investigate
You're already being investigated retard. You should have taken many steps to avoid any comment online being linked to yourself. OPSEC 101 moron.
Wrote where? On facebook?
Find a lawyer.
What can they do already. You should try to figure out how much trouble you'll be in if you just admit to it
This is probably a good think for you… makes you realise the reality of it all
Was it through this site you wrote the shit and where you using a vpn? I know they can be cracked and all but its still better than using your own IP.
The problem in this is that I don't remember writing shit about minorities. I was probably drunk as shit
That's scary. Just tell them you weren't serious and show them some other boards on here.
Which one. The one for interracial cuckolding or loli hentai?
don't tell them anything. I don't know how your system works, I assume it's in order with all the other shit I've seen about EU destroying freedom of speech, but say nothing, admit nothing, get a lawyer that knows your system.
Comply with the law obviously. You shouldn't use a VPN next time, or your right to free speech will be infringed in most countries.
I'm reading in our laws that indeed I can say nothing because I'm witness and not defendant
Bring a lawyer.
The first thing to ask the lawyer is what law gives them the right to fine you?
If I won't come to investigation I will be fined if I come I won't be fined
that's retarded. it's incumbent on the security forces to detain you and transport you to and from an interview if they need to do that.
familiarize yourself with article 6 and the hillbilly cops will probably be too scared to harass you
I'm witness not covict
I have wrote some shit about minorities and that I want to kill them and shit. They want to investigate me and shit.
no you are accused of an offense. you are innocent and have the right to silence. they cannot fine you for not showing up for an interview. they can arrest you but that doesn't assign guilt.
Get an (((attorney)))
claim you had a psychotic break because of your (((mental illness)))
communicate this solely through your (((attorney)))
log off the internet forever and find a gf
In paper I have its stated that I'm witness
Ok slav fag, I'm sure this totally happened. Go be a faggot somewhere else
read the fucking conventions you fucking retard. there is a confrontation clause concerning witnesses that overrules national laws. stop being a bitch and don't let ZOG get an inch in on you.
I'm not from America but Eastern europe
Enjoy having your fingernails slowly pulled out one by one with a pair of pliers until you confess.
Have paper right next to me but I ain't stupid to post it
Yes I know now I have right to remain silent
You should use tor all the time or a vpn user.
Just pay the fine, fuck them.
Won't pay 2000euros
I have wrote some shit about minorities and that I want to kill them and shit.
Why would you (assuming you did) ever post that online and not expect glowniggers to appear? Don’t say anything to them and admit nothing
Tell them your name and address, nothing more.
Article 6 doesn't kick in until you have been charged; if you give them nothing then they will need to investigate in a manual manner which requires resources that they do not have.
If I won't come I will be fined. What do I say to them?
Don't go. They won't fine you. If they are so stupid that they try to fine you, protest it.
Don't ever talk to police. Don't say anything to them, it can not help you.
This, especially if you are a white Christian male.
You only have to turn up right?
Don't say anything other than confirming your personal details.
Europoors brought this on themselves, stop caring about Yurocucks you stupid fucking jews
They will fine me and as addition I have to pay for the whole action
is that miku? gimme a miku song
i liked that alien one
If they threaten you at the interview accuse them of intimidating a witness, lol.
They are trying to scare you. Police are permitted to lie.
Seems to be but I'm reading in our laws that they can indeed fine me
Doesn't matter who you are you need to familiarize yourself with laws. They will always have loopholes so that they can choose who to apply them to. A lawyer will have requirements to follow to continue being a lawyer that you are not bound to. For example in Canada you are required to be given an unbiased trial. Since trials involve human beings this is not possible.
Pics or it didn't happen faggot
What do I say to them?
KILL THE JEWBOTS
Absolutely won't post pics especially after I read they want to investigate what I wrote on this site. Ain't this stupid
and do not forget to leave a note that you (was) hidden gay and the copz killed you for it
unless you live in belarus they cannot fine you for not showing up for some witness interview you fucking retard. you are an absolute goy so goto the police station and report for execution.
How I'm being goy it's literally written in our law that they will fine me if I won't come for witness interview. Its in the paper I even signed the paper which the plice anti terrorist guys brought to me
oh shit. have fun with the ex-commie cops. seriously get a lawyer, do not answer ANY questions until you have a lawyer. ask the lawyer if the fine is an admission of guilt, or if it is an administrative punishment for not going to to the interview. they will probably drop the charges if you lawyer up. since it is eastern europe you may be able to bribe your way out of this if you have money.
remember this: in the west the beatings happen on the sidewalk, in the east they happen at the station.
Always remember to properly use your Miranda Rights. When questioned by the police under arrest, always say “I want a lawyer”. Don’t try to be a smartass and say “I think I want/need a lawyer”, because the cops will just ignore it and keep interrogating.
If you are not under arrest, in most jurisdictions, the cops will need a subpoena or a warrant in order to force you to be interrogated. If they don’t have anything of the sort, you can just be dismissive until they leave.
Do not ever talk to the cops, there is no reason to. Back in the day the defendant could play mind games with the prosecution by introducing false evidence/testimony, but this is no longer a legit practice, so you will only lose.
Be careful with plea bargains as well, the shit should be ilegal, but oh well.
how am i a goy when i intentionally sign my due process rights away
fucking neck yourself
have wrote some shit about minorities and that I want to kill them and shit
hmm wow maybe you shouldn't bte s uch a c o c k s u c k i n g f a g g ot
Bullshit. The admins only comply to american authorities, and even if you write about wanting to kill minorities (and not a specific target) then that speech is protected by 1st amendment.
I even signed the paper
That's a good goy, sign away any legal rights you might have had. I'd recommend just those butt plug things just to get that anus ready for prison. Find yourself a nice prison manfu.
Paper says 'subject/matter witness: 8ch.net'
he is talking about eastern europe. you do not go into a police station alone in those places. they don't have miranda rights. OP try calling your friends and family maybe you have someone in the courts, the military or police that is related to you, maybe a lawyer? this is your best bet since you are being accused of a cybercrime and since anti terror police made contact they are treating it as a potentially serious cybercrime. this is more serious than stolen credit cards etc.
Do what my grandparents did during the cold war before moving to America. Bribe your way out of the country
You are talking like my country is like some kind of Soviet post apocalyptic shithole which is but not that bad. I'm witness not convict I can remain silent
idk, maybe admins lied and actually complied with polish authorities (those were the only non-us EU ones they mentioned asking for info from 8ch). But it sounds like the same shit as that user that was visited by FBI, they wanted info on other posters and it's not about you. Seems like they are fishing for informants. Were you posting in english or foreign? If there are like for example 10 people posting in polish on 8ch then the polish authorities can check ISP traffic to 8ch and then send to all the 10 people that accessed 8ch a letter like you received making them witnesses because they can't prove who exactly posted what messages.
you are underestimating eastern european nations legal intercept capabilities. he was using clearnet not tor, not even vpn.
That can be… problematic.
Unless he lives in a shithole like Ukraine, Belarus, Moldavia, Russia, Serbia or Hungary, he will probably still be ok, since these rights exist in most countries.
If he does live in one of them, good luck, because law doesn’t mean shit in those places. he better have a higher-up to help him
Stop its not like we are animals you are talking shit
gets visited by anti terror police over shitpost on 8ch, has to attend police interview under threat of punishment. still defends distopian shithole.
totally not a bait thread
Print out and bring in lots of Zig Forums infographics to your police interview and use to opportunity to red pill them. Most are closet nationalists anyway and the centrists may be swayed to your side if you play your cards right and argue with passion and conviction.
Don't give in to fear. Double down and defend your views with reason and logic. Make sure you give them the thumbs up and OK sign when you arrive and before you leave.
I was asleep okay I signed it because it's just witness interview I'm not defending it
That's odd then. Could be that FBI asked for info about your posts, 8ch gave them the logs, FBI saw you were from Europe and forwarded the info to interpol which further gave them to your local authorities.
Do this: privnote.com
Nothing shows up note destroyed
actually only belarus hasn't signed the convention on human rights which aligns the european union legal systems with the united states
if op signed a document stating he would report for an interview than he is liable to show and could be fined after prosecution. i still wouldn't show and argue ignorance.
next time use a fucking vpn
I will share you some good ones, but you're a brony.
Rule No 1: don't open the door to police.
Rule No 2: don't confirm you name.
Rule No 3: don't admit to crimes on the internet.
in america 8ch is seen as a place for political radicals to discuss radical things.
in europe 8ch is seen as a cybercrime hub where cybercriminals commit and plan crimes.
The people from there obviously aren’t animals. The problem is that legal institutions simply don’t work in those countries. The prosecution can do whatever they want and the judge/jury will most likely accept it due to corruption/coercion/omission.
If it’s Poland, you should be fine. Things actually work there, so you only really need to comply with what the law states.
If you are a witness, it most likely means that you are safe in this specific prosecution, but they can open another one if they find that you practiced any criminal activity.
Also, if you are a witness, it means that the process is already somewhat on its way. The prosecution has likely already done the bulk of the investigation on some other entity.
As others may have said, you will want to stay in silence just in case. I don’t know how this testimony is regulated over there, but they likely won’t be able to hold you for very long. In the US, there have been cases where a suspect spent 3 days locked in the interrogation chamber without food… Obviously he didn’t ask for a lawyer, so keep this in mind if they hold you for an hour or two.
With that being said, I do believe it’s very likely that the judge may have issued a subpoena for you to testify, in this case they probably can fine you indeed. In other jurisdictions, like in the countries I mentioned, they could even arrest you.
Also, don’t try to bribe anyone in Poland, it will end up badly.
just use a vpn, goy
Doesn’t matter. Sure, you technically have the rights, but in order to have them applied by a trustworthy jurisdiction you would need to appeal all the way up to the ECHR or at the very least the Highest court. This could take years, and these countries often have shitty preventing prison laws as well.
NSA and your local police aren't the same thing.
If they really want you, they can just fire up MUSCULAR and get you through your writing patterns. It’s all a question of how many resources they are willing to spend investigating you. In most cases, a VPN will make them give up.
he doesn't know about parallel construction
Don't live in a thrid world shithole like Britain/Germoney. You had a chance to save your countries and and did nothing.
Whatch out for criminal threats and incitment to violence. Both those charges are prison time no probation.
While the spy agencies do provide information on violent terrorists to the police, that is not something to worry about if you are just expressing your opinion online. If they actually suspect you are planning to commit a terrorist attack then you shouldn't expect a VPN to protect you or anything really.
Only happens in cross-jurisdiction cases. Unless you threatened someone living in america or an American citizen to death/plan to commit a terrorist crime there, they can’t do shit.
even in the EU the eastern states they have very spotty practices. it's a lottery - maybe you get lucky you get someone who got in trouble before and is now doing things by the book. generally speaking, you don't want to be arrested in slovakia, poland, hungary or bulgaria, and the further east of the capital you are in those countries the worse it gets.
Yes give a kike lawyer money. That is the answer.
Just don't threaten to kill people online, unless you're a retard and want to get into trouble whether you have VPN or not. If you actually want to do something violent don't talk about it you won't get any help and people will only want to take away your rights and discriminate instead of helping you.
This was an interesting read:
Sure, but I’d say Slovakia and Poland are still safe-ish. It might be a little harsher than Western Europe, but it’s mostly the same thing.
Bulgaria is an interesting country, though, because I think they still had debtors prisons until 2017 or something. Definitely not somewhere you want to be arrested.
He’s a witness. It could be something as simple as he quoted someone who may actually be involved in some terrorist action/threat.
there are over 100 white kids rotting in UK jails for saying shit or showing at rallies. slav nations are actually be judicially due to the wild west atmosphere and family retaliation rates against authorities.
incitement to violence
with jewish lawyer pilpul being argued against you in a court of law, just about anything you say or do could be made to fit this purposefully vague term.
*actually better judicially
I only post here as a concerned citizen monitoring hate crimes and use shitposts as bait, so if anything I've shitposted is mistaken as hateful it could only be referring to something in minecraft.
TL;DR sucks to be you.
If they weren't sitting beside you while you were typing then they have no evidence. All they have is a suspicion it was you and not the homeless guy you loan your laptop to, so will bully you for a confession. Don't lie, don't talk. The burden of proof is on them.
Different problems. Western countries have more ridiculous criminal types, such as hate speech, but if you are accused of something, it is much more likely that you will get a fair trial, given the parameters, compared to an eastern country.
Stop being a Stormtard.
another great thing about eastern slavic nations is you can appeal to your militia command and they can take you into 'custody' instead of the national security forces. which means you can carry on in civilian life but are under probation in your district. much more decentralized legislature than our supposed 'free and independent' states
No, spick cunt.
White Power, bitch.
"No comment." I'm not even going read the thread. smh
I will certainly do that
You aren't trying to be their friend and if they are telling you to come down to the station, then they are already "suspicious".
Here you go Schlomo
Stop Racist Nazi Apartheid Israel
At least the fake b8 slide threads are getting better in quality. Your OP is still low-effort chaim, better luck next time.
Good interrogators can break through all that no comment shit pretty easily, or if they don't break through entirely they can make it fairly obvious that a person is hiding something by saying nothing but "no comment" repeatedly, and gauging their non-verbal responses.
No one cares. You're retarded.
I will post paper after my interview after week can't do this otherwise they know I have posted it
Look retard, it doesn't matter if they think he is lying.
One minute he's talking about his friend that he debates politics with and the next moment he's part of a terrorist cell. FFS.
some law against recording documents online now? stop acting like a child and man up. the government is shit everywhere and no free man should fear harassment.
If they see it it will be dead spot on me I'm not retarded
They're going to plant drugs or weapons on you, dude. Or they'll put you into custody on some trumped up bullshit charge and then bribe jail house scumbags to inform on you using false testimony. They have a million jewish tricks to use against you. The system never plays fair and you are its enemy. They will do whatever it takes to silence you and take you off the streets for as long as they want.
If they have determined you belong in prison, then you're going to prison. If they just want to scare you, then you'd best play along, pay a fine and never come here again. You'll be on their watchlist forever and you already are, be sure of that.
I know they can be cracked and all but its still better than using your own IP.
Most countries don't have the resources to crack a VPN. The ones that do wouldn't use that to go after shitposters on Zig Forums, because they would have to fabricate some other plausible way they got you, or it would be public knowledge that VPNs are cracked.
the fact that you signed the paper is evidence enough that you are an utter retard
right now you can be disappeared and Zig Forums wouldn't be able to reprise against your imprisonment. give us a situation report so that we can send our wet works team into save you.
in west EU you have more rights than in central EU, better process but ridiculous list of crimes. higher conviction rates due to plea deals.
in central europe you have a stricter system less rights, but the punishments are low crimes are just as ludicrous and although you have less rights in court, the judges are very lenient, most times they let you off. then there is eastern EU less crimes regarding hurt fee-fees higher conviction rate, sloppier process, worst of both worlds.
In germany for instance they leave you alone, don't even arrest criminals until they don't show up in court, then they send out the marshals, but these german marshals roll up like tactical teams.
Sounds like bad schizophrenia
Just say, oops.
Actually, maybe you should go down fighting. You clearly can't handle the pressure.
post the letter they send to you but erase/black all your personal information in the picture before posting.
it's not, it's the truth.
If they have determined you belong in prison, then you're going to prison.
Especially this point.
if you answer questions like "how are you?" but no comment all the important ones. the key is not to answer any questions.
Nope letter is straight from interior ministry would have to erase 80%of paper
If I'm talking to a pig, then they already know how I am.
We are already aware of the reality that free speech is dead and that leftist marxist scum abuse their power thanks very much.
No that's incorrect you should provide your name and address, contact details and so they can verify your identity but don't answer anything else.