The Coming Farm Crisis

Bentley Jenkins
Bentley Jenkins

themostimportantnews.com/archives/u-s-farms-are-facing-their-worst-crisis-in-a-generation-and-now-here-comes-another-monster-storm

TL;DR
American agriculture suffering it's wettest year in history, non-stop fucking rain. Late thaw and repeat spring storms mean that 30-50% of acreage for two staples, soybeans and corn remain unplanted compared to the seasonal average and those that are expect to have poor yields.
Trade conflicts with China and Mexico means that even for the meagre harvest that they're able to scrape together, there will remain a huge absence of demand for foreign exports and thus a fall in prices rather than an increase.
Most American farms extremely in debt, suffering a high number of bankruptices already and one good blow will be enough to send thousands into utter financial ruin and the rippling effects that would have on states and regions that are already on the knife's edge from dealing with rural poverty, drug crimes and a total absence of government resources.

There's no relief in sight for them, june is shaping up to be a bizarre month of cold temps and storms again and things will just slowly become more and more bleak until the ball drops in fall when the harvest and therefore, bills and debts are due. The last time America suffered something on this scale was in the 1980s, the total implosion of the rural heartland and it's abandonment by the government was the background event that quietly pushed enough desperate, embittered white men into political radicalism and gave rise to the militia movement of the late 80s and early 90s.

So what are we gonna do Zig Forums?

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Henry Miller
Henry Miller

So what are we gonna do Zig Forums?
Judging by what was done in 2016, with enthusiastic support for the guy who is deliberately stoking this to blockbust every independent farmer in the country on behalf of jewish real estate, I'd say the next step is probably going to be donning official IDF uniforms and scour the countryside for White holdouts.

Brandon Reyes
Brandon Reyes

So it's a good time to buy farmland?

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Oliver Young
Oliver Young

late thaw
Global warming though. Man made though. Cows did it.

Jeremiah Foster
Jeremiah Foster

But but but but but but but never ending drought! Muh glubba schwarma!
implying the government won’t bail out all the farmers
implying the food subsidies simply won’t be larger
implying jews can afford to let food prices rise in the United States
lol

Christopher Davis
Christopher Davis

Eco facost communes now. Buy up these farms and form communes. This is our best way forward.

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

Good. Most farmers around here own hundreds or thousands of acres. It's impossible to afford more than a half acre of land because of these faggots. They get all kinds of handouts and subsidies too. Always driving around in the new model diesel dually pulling their ATVs and other toys.

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John Sanchez
John Sanchez

Suggestion. 300lbs of dried goods (wheatberries best) per person per year in a few buckets(45lbs each). If you are at least one year covered you can get thru several years easily enough with other food filler should shit get to crazy. If you live in a city, or within three days travel when shit tits up, you need this or you are at the mercy of people whom hate you, and if one of us becomes a warlord in your AO you are likely to be cut off as most of our men will use water and food as the main way of culling enemies in a city rather than wasting resources going direct.

Having a fallback base supply means you don't have to panic and react to fill short term needs, instead focusing on important supply runs or escape. Also, if people are going hungry, start going hungry yourself and only eat enough to survive, make sure you stay hungry. Other hungry people will pick up on the guy(s) whom are not going without, lack of gaunt face, dangerous hungry eyes and no desperation, all signs of someone whom has something you want. So remember to blend in, might suck but at least you can survive while they die off. Remember to watch for these same signs, once they are really starving humans go lethargic and stop moving much, but until severe starvation humans get angry and very mean as hunger drives the animal response to feed into the forefront.

300lbs per person per year. We are close to open war at this point even if this farm thing is nothing, corporate farms will sell their product overseas over domestic even without kike influence if it isn't profitable to sell here. So keep stocked and get ready. We don't have many years left if any left at all.

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Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

Can't wait. Think of all the land for sale, think of the opportunities for actual farmsteads.

What the media calls "Farmer" is not what a Farmer truly is.

Owen Phillips
Owen Phillips

use the word "whom" correctly or just don't use it

Jacob Johnson
Jacob Johnson

Let them fail.
They are the #1 thing keeping people sick. Monsanto and the rest of the jew industry are just a drop in the bucket to the faggots growing the food and dumping the poisons on it, killing the environment, and ensuring nutrient deficient food gets fed to the world for a few shekels.

James Morris
James Morris

The amount of rainfall is irrelevant. The amount or rainfall the soil is capable of infiltrating and storing is what matters. If farmers stopped sucking the agricorps dicks and actually got their heads in the game maybe they'd figure out how to regenerate and properly manage their lands.

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Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

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Parker Carter
Parker Carter

Needz moah global warning.
They are subsidized regardless of crop yield.

James Sanchez
James Sanchez

Chem trails scattering/blocking solar radiation

Ethan Gray
Ethan Gray

That's what you get for being Monsanto's bitch and ruining your soil. Now cows will have to eat grass instead of your GMO corn garbage. Maybe the obesity rate will go down without so much high fructose bullshit in the food. Maybe sperm counts will rise without all of the soybean oil. Mmmm… yummy glyphosate.

reminder to start your own garden

Grayson Nelson
Grayson Nelson

learn to look over your nose or shut the fuck up

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

The eye watering amount in subsidies farmers and the ag sector get including ridiculous tax writes off so they can buy a hundred thousand dollar pick up truck means I couldn't give a damn about them. I've been growing my own since 88 and they can shove that soy shit they put into everything processed these days they can't ship to China straight up their ass.

Camden Johnson
Camden Johnson

youtube.com/watch?v=kb_t-sVVzF0

Organize new "subdivisions" around this model.

Productive farm farmed by the owners association. It pays the already low ag taxes, and people can in a communal setting that share political ideas. Established communities can form new colonies or bootstrap ideological compatriots around the country and world like the hutterites, mennonites, amish, etc. Green revolution ag going away is a blessing in disguise. Return farming to communities and people instead of corporate chemical waste dumps.

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

Do you realize that the shear amount of invasive weed species in North America is so bad that if people stopped spraying them with chemicals they would completely take over, making it impossible to grow any reasonable amount of food crops? They are virtually unkillable without using chemicals. Some of them have roots that go over 20 feet deep and they have seeds that can remain dormant for over 10 years. Birds and deer eat the seeds and then poop them out in different areas. If you miss spraying the spots before they go to seed, that means spraying that spot for up to 10 years to make it go away. This is just a small microcosm of the problems farmers face, not to mention the outrageously priced farm equipment and that crops are selling for the same prices they were in the 1980s. Big corporate farms aren’t going to fail. Only small family farms will go under, making the food sources even more centralized and “poisoned”. Then you have people like AOC who want to completely stop using fossil fuels and hamper cattle production. There is no way modern farming is possible without using diesel tractors. You cannot have solar powered tractors. That is physically impossible.

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Jaxon Kelly
Jaxon Kelly

So it's a good time to buy farmland?
Yes

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William Davis
William Davis

This is false. The invasive weeds are thriving off some (usually human made) factor that makes them more desirable.
I'll just use Kudzu as an example. Kudzu thrives on high sunlight, poorly draining, compacted, low organic soil.
The south had all three of these in high abundence thanks to years of cotton, tabacco, and other crops that required high water and intensive agriculture.
You get rid of those by actually taking care of the soil and kudzu all but disappears. It won't go extinct in the south because it is well adapted to high humid areas.
EVERY "weed" (weed is any plant that is unwanted, including trees if you didn't want them) follows the same natural laws. You get rid of whatever is making them thrive and they will move on. All three of the weeds you have pictures are called Pioneer species. They are specifically adapted to poor conditions are are int he process of healing the land so it can slowly revert back to forest.
Stop trying to kill them, and help them heal your god damn soil. Their seeds are irrelevant if the ideal conditions to thrive are not present.

Big corp farms can and will fail. they require a constant stream of petrol products to remain afloat. Any permaculture/horticulture/organic buzz word farm far outpace them in productivity when you take in ALL products they produce and not just the one tiny crop of X they produce vs the mono desert big AG relies on. Efficiency is the natural winner in all things.
"Modern" farming is just a bloated mess of bullshit that is completely unneeded. AOC is a kike puppet who needs spawn camped in minecraft, but that is besides the point at hand. (CO2 emissions are actually good for plants: see Greenland icecore data on global temp and co2 levels (protip: no correlation)) Tractors are a very useful tool and do not need to go away. Its all the poisons and false "nutrients" they dump onto fields. Cattle don't need to be forcefed. you can herd them into a paddock and rotate them around. See Joel Salatin at Polyface Farms for a successful model.

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Samuel Powell
Samuel Powell

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What do you care about someone using whom incorrectly, dipshit? Go fuck yourself.

Jace Williams
Jace Williams

That is one weed. There are dozens and dozens of different invasive weeds. The three I posted are the ones I deal with. They do not go away if the soil is improved. They will grow in fucking sandstone, in rocks, and where no other kind of plant can possibly grow. They grow in places where nothing has ever been planted, where the soil has never been worked.

Stop trying to kill them? Take care of our soil? Some of our neighbors are lazy, they make no effort to kill the weeds…and they spread more and more each year. No one has ever planted crops or sprayed in the places it grows…so how in the fuck is the soil damaged? These plants come from Europe, where there are naturally occurring insects that keep them under control. These insects are not in North America, and no one wants to offer any kind of permanent solution to the problem. People are making too much money selling the spray that people have to buy every year.

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Parker Hughes
Parker Hughes

soybeans and corn remain unplanted
Oh no, the poor (((soybeans))) and (((high fructose GMO cornsyrup))). It's a literal shoah!

Caleb Smith
Caleb Smith

Meatvats, fuckers. Ol’ Man Zeus is doing you a favor. Seize the transition and power through.

See if we can print vegetables, too. Declining soil quality took a shit on the nation’s nutrition, and we may have lost some of our energy to that.

Christian Cruz
Christian Cruz

<kill flowers
<t. jew
The obligation landowners have to stop the spread of "noxious weeds" establishes their right to water.

Austin Allen
Austin Allen

There's no relief in sight
Good
Fuck boomer farmers and their boomer parents.
They should be happy that they get their land fertilized and replenished with nutrients like this (rain/flood) every so often, they are just too stoopid (see: boomers) to realize this.
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Camden Bennett
Camden Bennett

Serious about the meatvats here. You think farmers can’t do it? Think of all the trailer park meth labs. Those people could be operating vatmeat facilities with retraining - or being janitors for them with no retraining at all.

Weather is threatening to throw people out of work and off their land? That’s famtastic, fam. Cheap land and people seeking new employment. We just have to be ready to go widescale on a new form of employment.

Brandon Ross
Brandon Ross

Go home bot you're drunk

Adam Harris
Adam Harris

Its damaged because it has zero organic matter in it. Get it tested. You need to increase the water retention, the soil cover, or get some shade in. Even if you just abandon a lot, the land will degrade if no input is applied, rain water still flows top soila nd nutrients away, the sun still bakes the soil, driving water away and bleeching any nutrients and preventing small animals from working the soil (worms, microbes, fungi). It takes hundreds of years for a plot of land to return to forest naturally.
Sandstone is literally the definition of poor soil. its just compacted sand incapable of retaining water. They WILL go away if the soil is improved, It takes atleast a year to see improvement usually, but it will improve if you actually try to improve it. Plant legumes to fix nitrogen into the soil, fix some sort of root plant like radishes to till the soil, plant clover to shade the soil and mulch them all to increase organic matter. Animals are a very quick solution to fix a location. Goats, Cows, Sheep, they all till the soil, eat the weeds, and fertilize the soil with manure. Bring in chickens after them so they can spread the manure out and eat any bugs living in the piles.

All three of your pictures show signs of abuse. No ground cover, no shade and poor water retention, and the steam is probably run off from farms and is polluted with nitrogen that those plants thrive off of nor do they have any animals actively grazing them to increase organic matter in the soil. It also looks like that steam is running rather quick and eroding the bank, causing it to be murky with silt, preventing water plants from thriving, and aquatic animals from thriving. Every plant and location is different. I do not know your area, the plants that live there, or the condition of your soil.
We have the same problems at waterways here. Huge farm run off causing all sorts of problems with weeds or algae blooms. When the dry season hits all the invasive species die from lack of rain and with no animals to eat them (and nobody wants to mow there) they just sit and have to oxidize away before something else can grow there.
You don't have to take my word or argue back and forth. Read one of the books i listed above. they're cheap and explain the concept far better than i could.

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Hunter Harris
Hunter Harris

Give people new things to do. Turn them from their accustomed ways and fit them in to a new society. We can take a Great Leap Forward! Backyard meatvats throughout the nation!

I’m nooot being totally serious, buuut I also mostly don’t drink, lol. I bought a bottle of rum this year and haven’t finished it yet.

Michael Moore
Michael Moore

Those “flowers” are toxic to cattle. If they are baled into hay and the cows eat them, the cows get sick and die. But why bother explaining these things.

Google leafy spurge and read about it. It will thrive in the healthiest, best soil in America. The bugs are the only way to permanently control it, and good luck getting them to do that. Bindweed and Canadian thistle are exactly the same. If you think the solution is that simple, you need to tell weed control groups all over America about how to fix the problem. They will pay you tens of thousands of dollars for a solution.

Connor White
Connor White

*good luck getting them to allow that

Hudson Jenkins
Hudson Jenkins

You know full well getting an alphabet agency to do anything against the plan is fruitless. Might aswell tell them about fluoride, or wifi radiation.
A brief lookup of the leafy spurge say sheep will eat it over grass. Sounds like you have a good source of sheep food and not a weed problem.

Jonathan Sullivan
Jonathan Sullivan

Leafy spurge goes away with goats and sheep, add them to a pasture with your hose and cows and they will keep the weed in check. Kinda like in nature.
Blindweed has a very deep taproot, you know what that means? It pulls valuable nutrients from deep in the ground up to the top soil and deposits its detritus, making the soil healthier. 9/10 time such hardy deep digging plants provide rare nutrients that have been stripped from topsoil from over farming.
canadian thistle is an edible weed, considering the topic of this thread, this is anything BUT an weed you don't want around. While you may have to train your cows and horses to eat it, once they do its an exceptionally nutrient dense food source for them and even humans since their spines are utterly harmless. Again, sheep and goats love it.

So I am assuming ass mad user is mono culture farming. Exactly what is killing us off in service of the yids. None of these sound like an bad plant if managed correctly. Leafy spurge may be the worst since it can harm cows, but intermixing goats or sheep while rotating them would ensure the cows wouldn't ever bother since it would be the last thing they would bother eating.

I fail to see an problem with these plant. Hell, add kudzu into the mix and you have a field that could feed your family without any more input from yourself for years until the soil is fixed and other wild plants 'invade' the field.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

Quantum Leap was a good show. Stargate was maybe better in some ways.
Drimk bier bc european. Rum is for island negers.
noxious plants
toxic
So weed your land. The spread of trees and bear shit isn't a problem for you so don't make your weeds mine. Fellow rockies dweller.
baled into hay
Weed-free hay in the national forest only, user. Don't forget.

William Davis
William Davis

maybe nature is natural
logic is god
This.
and fuck you i'm no fed nigger you faggot

Nicholas Watson
Nicholas Watson

We have sheep here. Sheep can eat it over and over for years and it will grow back. Look at the roots. Put sheep in a fenced in area with leafy spurge and provide them water and extra food for years and it will grow back indefinitely. It will never die that way. Those are not alphabet agencies. They are local farmers and state agencies put in charge of trying to get it under control along roads.

You are retarded if you think there is some simple quick fix that no farmer has thought of and implemented in decades. Go ahead and try to sell your brilliant ideas to people affected by these problems. They are worth money (if they actually have any kind of effect).

Weed-free hay in the national forest only, user. Don't forget.
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

You all need to buy land and start farming, since everyone that is currently doing it is completely ignorant of how to really get it done. You are sure to make great profits.

Michael Clark
Michael Clark

I highly that you are all growing enough food to feed yourselves and your families this year. Close to 20-30% of the globes crops have failed last year (that is a lot of hungry mouths that aren't going to get fed). No one is selling food to other nations or exporting anymore. Many of the crops that were damaged like orchard and tree crops (oil, almonds, peaches) where damaged permanently (for crops like oil and almonds that means 5-10 years before production comes back) and that is if everything from now on goes swimmingly and perfectly with no more losses or damage (not likely). What are foods to grow? Sweet potatoes, potatoes, squash, corn, beans…forget all the low cal crap (tomatoes, lettuce, cucumbers, etc). Go high cal and get prepared. If you have ever eaten MRE's for a week you will pretty much kill for fresh food. In the map provided many of these 'trade relations' don't exist anymore due to the collapse of food exports.

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Ethan Gomez
Ethan Gomez

If we actually did the Meatleap as agricultural policy, we’d produce huge amounts of waste meat to produce high-value clean proteinous compost with which to fix the soil.

Cameron Miller
Cameron Miller

Great Leap Forward was a Maoist industrialization policy that tried to teach smelting to peasants.

Ryder Diaz
Ryder Diaz

<the law is stoopid
Okay, nigger. I own land and cattle and still use national and state forest land for increased diversity in their diet. I guess that's stoopid tho.

Juan Garcia
Juan Garcia

So your saying leafy spurge is an ideal food stock for sheep with an near unlimited supply of ever growing resupply…… Just add water…. sounds sustainable and no fix needed. In fact, it sounds far more intelligent doing this than growing most other mono cultures which require babysitting to survive. The only people affected by these problems are fools whom don't look outside the poison the land faggots and mono culture high intensity farming method. You might not like that since you seem enamored with maximizing profit.

Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

You all need to buy land and start farming,

Isn't that why most of us are in this thread rooting for collapse? I certainly can't afford the millions they want for the most abused acreage.
And I'm not selling you a quick fix no farmer has thought of. Plenty of farmers have thought of them, but apparently the rest of the boomers with land would rather do it the shitty way they have been doing it. I don't care if they go under doing their inefficient and ultimately damaging "farming". I'm already rooting for their collapse so land becomes available for people ready to try natural farming methods. Really. I've already linked multiple books and keywords for you to look up. If you want to wallow in self pity about having problems you can solve but no poison to dump on it. that's your problem. I'm not going to force feed you redpills.

Ian Richardson
Ian Richardson

You don't want kudzu to go extinct fag. It is a edible starvation crop…meaning you can eat it in an emergency. Those who know how to process it and have a ready source will never starve. Kudzu is a god send for the South in troubled times. It is only because people are too fucking stuck up that it is not eaten more regularly. FREE FOOD MAN…in the event of an emergency Americans would starve in the land of plenty.

Angel Fisher
Angel Fisher

Protecting small farmers is a moral imperative. It's the right thing to do and it makes us look good.

Tyler Sullivan
Tyler Sullivan

There are many dicks to be sucked user. (((money))) has to be made to fit into the kikes 'civilization' and provide themselves with 'the good life'.

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

can't afford the millions they want for the most abused acreage
You can buy land for 1,000/acre or 10,000/acre, or even more if you are really dumb. You can buy a small plat for 2k if you really want but you get a housing authority. It is a good start if you don't have 10-40k to buy a 10acre or 40acre square

Daniel Gray
Daniel Gray

I know nothing about any national forest grazing laws. Weed free hay is everywhere, provided you control the weeds. Fields of alphalfa irrigated by dikes that collect and store rainwater are sure to have more weed free hay for cattle that any type of forest.

People here grow “organic” crops. They do every single thing that we do, but instead of spraying the bindweed in their fields they just till deeper and let it grow. We do not use the popular method of no-till farming, where the ground is never tilled, and chemicals are sprayed across the entire field several times a year. Then air seeders are used to plant the seed. We till the fields and only spray the spots where noxious weeds come up, then plant the seed with old drills that break up the ground. All of our equipment is decades old, since a used combine can cost over 500,000 dollars and a new tractor around 400,000.

They have noxious weed classes available here, teaching people about how to control the weeds. The methods you are describing would have no effect. The common method using sheep is to have them eat the entire plant in a patch once or twice in the summer, let it grow back to a few inches, then spray it with chemicals. If you just let the sheep keep eating it, it will stop it from flowering and spreading, but then it will grow back the second the sheep leave and will start to flower the year after that.

Lucas James
Lucas James

If you think there are natural farming methods that have not been tried and are capable of being implemented at a scale larger than a few hundred acres you are mistaken.

Doing horticulture, permaculture, etc would work great if our system was set up for people to provide food for their own local communities…but it isn't. Everything is at a national/global scale and the only way to make a profit is to do what everyone else is doing…and it is getting much harder to make a profit for anyone that isn't a huge company.

Small scale farmers will be the first to go. Huge agribusiness will take over, and then it will be a long time before we run out of easily accessible oil, but when we do billions of people will likely starve. If you want to get an idea about what will likely happen this book is a good start.

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Elijah Wright
Elijah Wright

Malthusian collapse user. The good news is that it will probably go very quickly for most of the world's population. Book looks interesting.

Brody Long
Brody Long

Most American farmland is watered using aquifer water.
All this rain will replenish those aquifers.
More water in aquifers means less drought for the foreseeable future.
Production of staples will skyrocket after this.

Nicholas Davis
Nicholas Davis

I am not saying that modern farming practices are the most efficient or sustainable. Using fertilizer made from petrochemicals and chemicals isn’t good. The only point I am making is that the invasive weed species are not going to go away ‘on their own’ by just ‘healing the soil’. They are here to stay and any solution that does not involve chemicals does not work. Trying to bring in the European insects to plant on them could work, but they are not here naturally like in Europe. They would only work well in the local areas where large patches of the weeds are already present. Then the bugs would eat, get into the soil and breed. To get them to spread all over the United States, you would almost have to let the noxious weeds spread everywhere, then release the bugs (not at all practical). Some problems can not be fixed by naturalist hippys.

Cameron Richardson
Cameron Richardson

Animals, Ag ganius. Animals…
For fuck sake are you really that dense?
Do you know how much meat could be produced and how how that would actually improve the land year after year.

Look into Regenerative Agriculture. Rotational grazing. God made the world perfect. Everything works if you get smart and quit trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

If you have animals and pasture land you will always be rich and well fed. As long as you protect your land, both martially and ecologically. This type of existence also lends itself to family cohesion and growth.

Landon Morales
Landon Morales

Half of all the grain that is grown is used to feed animals in factory farms. You think you can grow more meat by just not growing the grains and letting sheep and goats eat invasive fields full of invasive weed species that take over entire swaths of land and prevent all other types of plants and grasses from growing? These plants are not naturally occurring. They completely take over areas and destroy biodiversity.

I suppose you think the Asian Carp is a boon for American fish production. They breed like crazy and the river is full of them…the only downside is that they eat all of the other fish, with destroys entire ecosystems connected to those fish. But there would be tons of Asian carp meat…until they all died from starvation after destroying the environments they have taken over.

Building sustainable agriculture is a good thing, but it can’t fix the problems that have been ignored for so long and allowed to fester so badly.

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

better news is that there isn't a single ton of grain in the US strategic reserve. it's just money. although realistically there are giga-tons of civil reserve grain and we can order from other countries. there will still be stress on food infrastructure this winter especially in the concrete jungles.

James Jenkins
James Jenkins

there is this other problem that also corrects itself!
if the fish die by themselves then what's the problem?
in the mean time you can eat as many of them as you like
there is no need to be concerned man

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

b u m p because i really like eco/ag threads here
the salvation of the race begins with food

Benjamin Reyes
Benjamin Reyes

Those non whiteys in South America will do very well. This is the reason why Bush bought most of the natural water supply in Paraguay - 300000 acres of it.
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Jonathan Mitchell
Jonathan Mitchell

invasive species and plants are good!
Go fucking read a book. People that know little to nothing about problems telling the people that have to deal with them on a regular basis that they are either not problems at all, or that there are all kinds of simple solutions that basically cause the problems to fix themselves.

Henry Richardson
Henry Richardson

Damn cows. I hate them so much. I'll eat even more of them now. That is my part in the climate war.

Landon Cook
Landon Cook

hurr the trade war is hurting us!!

Stopped reading right there.

Luis Hall
Luis Hall

Harm induced by invasive species is ludicrously overstated by game and fish deparments who extort tax dollars to protect inedible, useless native fish. That's exactly what they're doing here in Arizona, clearing out all the Largemouth and catfish and carp so Roundtail Chubs can rebound their population, despite the fact it's illegal to even keep them and you can only fish for them with a non-barbed hook in catch and release.

The guy is completely right. If you think removing actual food stores just so you can have some native grass too look at isn't a scam perpetrated against you, you're dumb as a rock.

Jaxon Ramirez
Jaxon Ramirez

the sky is falling \ doomer thread

op is kike shill

Adam Smith
Adam Smith

Trade conflicts with China and Mexico means that even for the meagre harvest that they're able to scrape together, there will remain a huge absence of demand for foreign exports and thus a fall in prices rather than an increase.
Drumbph blundering means that small supply of goods for trade will cause low demand and price decline
I'm concerned about their not planting crops yet but why has nobody pointed out that's not how supply/demand works

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Jaxon Perry
Jaxon Perry

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Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

They're facing a crisis because they're getting out-paced by private vertical farms utilizing automation. Fuck these mexispic importers they're just looking for more gov't hand outs.

Samuel Kelly
Samuel Kelly

Theres not really many such farms out there.

Asher Brown
Asher Brown

NYC is being supplied by these exact farms in NJ
aerofarms.com/

Christian Russell
Christian Russell

Is this using jew numbers from importing feed grains and not growing feed grass yourself?
Of course it is because "environmental impact" is completely zero if they use sustainable agriculture that doesn't depend on the kike industry.
Beef, Lamb, Pork, Goats, Chickens and probably Turkeys can all graze on the same land because they don't eat the same things. Your feed numbers are irrelevant to any sustainable farmer. The fish numbers are equally bullshit to anyone integrating water features such as ponds, because you need the fish to eat the various "weeds" and pest bugs that soil the waterways.
These numbers are only a scare tactic to keep the money flowing in big AG

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James Cooper
James Cooper

superweeds
Why not figure out how to eat them instead? Dont fight nature when its helping you. Thistle is edible and cant be worse than modern wheat. Fucking try hards have no imagination.

Andrew Bailey
Andrew Bailey

think you can grow more meat by just not growing the grains and letting sheep and goats eat FOOD

You are making bullshit arguments. No, a sustainable farm cannot use the same acre of land that shits out low nutrient beef and expect them to be matched for beef production.
That is NOT what is happening here. a sustainable farm will make a portion of the beef, on the same acre, but they will also have a whole list of side products coming off that same acre that completely negate what the factory farm can shit out. The shit lagoon farm cannot grow anything but force fed cows. A sustainable farm gets lower cows, but also gets chickens, eggs, tree products, oddball bullshit like bamboo, various herbs, various crops as they build the soil. Really the list of things that can use the land for in ADDITION to just cows is endless as the farmers imagination.

inhabitat.com/1-acre-permaculture-farm-in-australia-feeds-50-families/

Zachary Martin
Zachary Martin

I highly doubt NYC is being supplied entirely by this company.

Jonathan Moore
Jonathan Moore

All animals need supplemental feed unless you have unlimited space/money user. The numbers are not 'bullshit' they are simply showing what is the most profitable in terms of food conversion. Fish are the most profitable. They take up very little space/indoor or outdoor, they can be vertically farmed, meaning things can grow above them (I am going to have a pond with fish a deck above it and mushrooms above that with other crops above that, with living creatures above that with insects above that with birds above that).
That pool is nice but you either have unlimited funds or you are living in a fantasy land. When you create an artificial ecosystem you have to FEED what you put into it until it stabilizes. ROI fish are best and probably healthiest for you. Followed by less mobile animals leading up to the heavy feeders (it just takes a lot of calories to move something that large around with gravity user…unlike fish who take almost no calories due to a lack of gravity pressure and warm blood).
I have seen land where they are all grazed on the same acreage and it is stripped to the bone user, nubs of grass are all that is left.
Most people on Zig Forums are not millionaires, unlike you…WE HAVE TO THINK and be clever about what we have as a food resource. Something like catfish can literally be grown in a barrel and this is better for people who are not millionaires or have to get by without unlimited funds. Picts are not related to my place because they are inefficient and retarded arrangements but you get the idea.
Vertical farming doesn't mean what the mega millionaire kikes think it does when they close their eyes and jerk off to money. Everything should be stacked and all systems should be interlaced. To use land for 'grazing' something is flat out close to a retarded use of space where things could be roaming free without care and be much healthier than anything you might artificially engineer (except for high density engineered secure food) everything should be wild and left to its own devices.
You wanna eat red meat go hunt and kill a wild oxen or a deer. Anything less is dysgenic.

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Juan Sullivan
Juan Sullivan

Supplied with something utterly worthless like 'lettuce' since that is all that will really grow in that system…things without any real caloric value.

Michael Johnson
Michael Johnson

Nah you could easily grow stuff like potatoes, mushrooms, carrots, etc like this.

Dylan Gray
Dylan Gray

Easily…right user. Not even close with some of the systems I have researched. Show picts. I don't think it will work.

Carter King
Carter King

Mushrooms Ok…since that is what I am already doing…but carrots and potatoes, user?

Robert Stewart
Robert Stewart

Go look it is always worthless low calorie low nutrient density food…basically they are growing fucking 'water' for people to consume.

Angel Jenkins
Angel Jenkins

You can grow mushrooms in that thing?

How?

Christian Cox
Christian Cox

Good on you for implementing some of it then. But i still do not agree. Your fish will not act like a herd of anything and till the soil or make certain nutrients available for the plants.
None of that requires funds. It is all using avaible resources, not buying your way to an easy victory. Yes land needs stabilized and often needs new "food" imported to help, but its not necessary. Pioneer species of plants all supply what you need, you just needs to enable it and speed things up with proper rotations. At most you buy seeds.
Grazing is NOT retarded at all. You shouldn't convert large portions of land to a graze, but you can easily support a small clearing in a food forest for grazing. Frankly you can grow bamboo and sell the wood, put let the cattle eat the leaves first. its just grass, and makes use of vertical space at transition boundries. They still get to roam, as ideally you have multiple acres for them to roam, but yes i agree the wild solution is better. just not very efficient for a population.
Also your overgrazing blurb is irrelevent. sustainable agriculture does not let them overgraze, they get rotated periodically. And no it doesn't need man power. you literally open the door and the cows move to the next still lush pasture. They will not stay in the place they just stripped of greens for long.

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

half of wheat
A massive meatvat expansion might drastically reduce the need for those feedstocks, mitigating the price fluctuation from those crops seeing reduced yield this year. The Great Meatleap calls in logic.

People on Earth are just dumb primitives, clinging to the ancient ways of retardation. That’s why societies exhausting their soil and collapsing is a recurrent cycle. We should consider the surplus meat composting idea seriously as a way of mitigating an existential risk factor in the nuclear era.

Jeremiah Lopez
Jeremiah Lopez

oy vey read my jew book

Ryder Murphy
Ryder Murphy

I still find it really funny that someone owned themselves on a supposedly political forum thinking “Great Leap Forward” was a Quantum Leap reference. Y’all might not be broken bigot-slaves screaming in sociopolitical agony if you weren’t slaves of the popular culture.

Embrace new ways. Try strategies not yet tried, and deepen human knowledge of the sciences.

There is much talk of space and sustainability here. By concentrating agricultural output into force-growth mechanisms, a dramatic condensation can be achieved in terms of real estate. That means more space for the environment.

The price of meat plunging under the price of vegetables would also likely make people thinner, and if the new excess meat composting strategy worked the restoration of soil nutrients would definitely make the consumers of a nation’s crops healthier.

Charles Mitchell
Charles Mitchell

CORRECT

Easton Taylor
Easton Taylor

Also this is so ridiculously unsustainable that it is a fucking joke. Do you all know how often those light bulbs need to be changed out? This is the worst model of vertical farming that could ever be conceived. It is like a kike took the idea of permaculture and turned it into a crack whore.

I am not trying to be obtuse user. I think we simply see things differently when it comes to 'possessing' animals. Fish, the only animal that should ever be possessed for their ROI will act fantastic in their ponds just like our cattle will act in their fields. There will be crayfish and shrimp and other water animals as well. With my system there is plenty of food for my extended family and then some while at the same time that leaves all open fields for wild animals. I don't believe in slavery and what you are talking about at its most core level is slavery. Cattle slavery, but slavery nonetheless. I believe that the standards we wish to be upheld for ourselves must be upheld for all of Life to make it as reasonable and healthy for all animals. Also, Natural Law the weak die and the strong survive. How much better off would our race have been had we stuck to this principle?
Also your overgrazing blurb is irrelevant. sustainable agriculture does not let them overgraze, they get rotated periodically.
It is not 'irrelevant' user. Some people are not 'made out of fucking money'
to purchase all the land in the world and some environments are simply poorer than others.

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Cameron Collins
Cameron Collins

with that grazing comment…most certainly I would have done it differently than the people I observed with that system…starting with not doing it, but if I had to do it I would have rotated their grazing into smaller parcels without letting them all graze together. Meaning it would have been cattle then chickens then turkey then sheep then goats then rest then repeat. Not a free for all with all the animals in one pasture.

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

But naaah, we’re all supposed to be retarded dancing sociopaths screaming and laughing about how useless and doomed our whole “race” is, prideless niggers fighting prideless aryans, in a species too weak to be strong…

Inclusivity gives access to new ideas. Some of them become means by which we cease to be so vulnerable to “Weather”. Yet if we are hateful tardragers projecting hatred onto each other, we won’t learn such things, and our “races” will continue suffering in famines.

The Enslaved Masters use these fluctuations to conceal their vampiric hostility to all welfare; they set new foundations for prices. The leadersheep also whine about the consequences of suffering nations who breed in poverty, but they bring it about, for they too have not the maturity to move beyond primitive scream-suffering on to new ideas. The potential of a better world frightens them if that world is not exactly as they have previously imagined it would be; first world leadership has grown slower than the evolution of the public, and become a deadweight in a world yearning for new ideas.

We don’t need to waste energy growing hooves, brains, and offal for our livestock; we mostly only eat the muscles. We don’t need to have declining soil quality; we can produce excellent rotstuff in a new industrial process. We don’t need agriculture to be forever encroaching on wilderness, nor to leave it all vulnerable to the uncontrollable weather; we can bring agriculture into an industrial setting.

No more factory farming. No more suffering brains, born and raised only to be consumed, in processes we would never wish to be subject to ourselves.

And think of the power! We’ll need so much electricity. Want to see microwave power plants? Nuclear modernization projects? Ongoing investments in green energy, in fusion research, in superconducting?

Join me in turning on ancient ways. Let us betray our allegiances to famine and hatred.

Levi Wilson
Levi Wilson

Yeah the use of artificial lights in this context is unnecessary when the methodology exists to pipe natural light in.

Adrian Hughes
Adrian Hughes

Yeah but would you actually eat anything out of that environment? It is grossly sterile and bereft of life…they remind me of lighted coffins. The food of the dead and dying.

Gavin Robinson
Gavin Robinson

Longterm user we'll have to develop artificial habitats and purely industrial farms.
Eventually the Earth will be uninhabitable for one reason or another and we'll need to move out into the stars to claim the universe.

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Gavin Taylor
Gavin Taylor

Well we'll just have to go about this in the same direction but different paths. I don't see a different between keeping cattle "slaves" vs keeping fish "slaves" nor do i see the difference between having 10 acres as "made of of money" yet your aquaculture stuff apparently exists in hammer space and doesn't take more than a square inch of room. Nevermind needing external means of power production.

David Jenkins
David Jenkins

This movie
The freemasonic nightmare future. This movie predicted the 'blitz' and WW2 so accurately (especially as far as the bombing of London) I would suspect they were actually scripting WW2.

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Mason Jenkins
Mason Jenkins

Do you all know how often those light bulbs need to be changed out?
They're LEDs, so once every 10 years or more.

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

Well WW2 was a foregone conclusion in the minds of Britons.
It was only a question of when.
It did wildly overestimate the use of gas though

Easton Murphy
Easton Murphy

Jews like Krugman still act like this isn't real inflation but just market fluctuation. But even he admits that competition with developing nations is driving up food prices. Unless those nations start doing worse, food prices are not going to drop. Food inflation is real inflation, fuck the CPI!

Caleb Hill
Caleb Hill

Trump is using HAARP array to destroy crops so China's tariff retaliations are nil in effect; brilliant tbhfam

Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

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Jason Turner
Jason Turner

/r/the_donald

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Dude, you are ignorant.
I know all about the way factory meat production works. I have a degree in Food Science and I am very familiar with the industry.

You obviously haven't learned shit about regenerative agriculture or rotational grazing because the arguments you present are fucking stupid. Pasture lands IMPROVE and the invasives are pushed out when graze CORRECTLY.

Take your fucking pea-brain and read a book, nigger. The actually go out and APPLY what you have learned. Stop repeating the status quo horseshit that you learned in your Ag Department and get into the real world.

And all these farmers that expect and immediate bug profit without having to pay the cost of building the system up first are worse than gibs niggers. At least the niggers don't pretend that they're contributing something to the world while raping it.
Buidling something worth having takes sacrifice and hard work. Not a loan from the Jewish Bank. That Bank will then own you and you end up spouting corporate horseshit just so you can drive a new truck and act like a big dick.
Most guys like that are little-cock faggots with an inferiority complex.

Also, you obviously don't belong here if this is the only thing that you have to offer to people who are giving you intelligent ways to go about your life.
Keep worshipping the false God of the dollar, faggot.
(You)

Gavin Ortiz
Gavin Ortiz

And there is also that cult that owns the land right next door, right?
I have never forgotten that story. It is a very important one.
Moves like this by the elite should get MUCH more attention than they do.

Hello, intelligent friend. Thanks for joining!

Also, didn't that purchase happen by Bush's daughter through some kind of foundation?
I'll have to tread the link.
Thank you!

Charles Hernandez
Charles Hernandez

They are simple, but they require ACTUAL hard work and a working KNOWLEDGE of your land.

Something that most of these tractor riding, fat-ass farmers have no idea about. These fat-fucks don't even grow anything that they eat.
A fucking farce natural to the natives of clown world.

Anthony Perry
Anthony Perry

Bringing up FEED costs as a counter argument against a GRAZING system.
You are beyond brain dead. Go ask for more government subsidies like the gibs niggers you complain about, you lazy faggot.

Nathan Allen
Nathan Allen

It is not a 'feed cost' argument you fucking nigger. It is a conversion; feed to meat argument.

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

Alright, faggot.
What is the feed composed of?

Camden Bailey
Camden Bailey

Grass fuckface…don't be a retard. lol

Ryder Anderson
Ryder Anderson

I like your ID despite your unbelievable cocksucker attitude.

Brayden Myers
Brayden Myers

Yes, it is a superior ID.

But you dipshit chart says "feed". Typically that refers to GRAIN in modern meat production. Especially when you are referring to "FEED COST". Dumbass.

You don't take the cost of grass into account when you are in a grazing system. Only the amount of land needed.

Fag.

And the amount of land needed in a regenerative model or a Salatin model is much less and the productivity of the pasture INCREASES over time.

There is a FUCK TON of abused land that is just waiting to be revitalized.

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

Do fish graze a lot on grass where you come from? The point of the graphic is about conversion ratios and ROI. There is not truly good ROI with slaves. Better to let things roam free and hunt them if you want to do such things. The ROI on keeping livestock is not worth the systems that are in place to keep everyone and everything afloat. The whole thing (raising cattle in civilization) is completely unsustainable…grass or grain fed because of the nature of large herbivores. Fish on the other hand have a magnificent ROI and are worth raising.
Fag!

Nolan Edwards
Nolan Edwards

Also, all of the ideas that you are presenting in this thread are just a modernized version of market gardens. These require a whole fucking lot of labor and planning to be productive.

Grazing animals is much less labor intensive and lends itself to a family operation, not a wage slave operation. Have you ever worked in a commercial green house? They are all full of Hispanic laborers working at stations just like in a modern factory. Fucking MISERABLE working conditions, full of ILLEGAL labor.

Angel White
Angel White

Have you ever worked in a commercial green house?
Only a private market garden and family operated one.
Hard work is not a 'family value'? Fuck user, I thought that was who we are as a people. What distinguishes us from the lesser races.

Owen Hall
Owen Hall

Are you seriously on this faggot-ass "cows are slaves, user!", argument?
What the fuck, man?
If you drop that premise, then your retarded conclusion that grazing systems don't work is fucked.
Do you know that Russia is creating huge grazing operations and bringing in cattle-men from around the world to teach them how to be Russian cowboys, so that they can manage the huge ranches that are being set up?
I'm sure it's a huge mistake and they have no idea what a bad idea they have.

Fish farms grow shitty quality fish. Pastured cattle produce extremely high quality muscle and organ meat and improve the entire ecosystem in and around the pasture. Properly maintained pastures where the animals are properly rotated dramatically increase soil depth and they CLEAN THE WATER that filters through them.

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

The systems you are suggesting with the vertically stacked systems and giant water tanks to grow fish all require a big infrastructure investment and on-going maintenance costs. This favors a corporate, industrialist system of food production, which leads to the wage slave conditions we see now in large commercial greenhouses.

And where the fuck did I say that ranching is not hard work?
I simply suggested that it is less labor intensive. Meaning that it can be sustainable on a FAMILY OPERATION LEVEL. Not requiring the involvement of wage slaves.

Jack Brown
Jack Brown

I do everything by hand, by myself. "overnight success" takes 7 years user. It is not the large investment that you think unless you are counting my time. But you can't count my time without counting your own. Are you capable of 'making it' without any subsidies of ANY TYPE? Because that is my goal. No loans, no subsidies, no debt.

Liam White
Liam White

Also, how much do you know about rotational grazing and regenerative agriculture?

I know plenty about aquaponics and I've determined that it is not a sustainable business solution for my family, because I don't want to bring in low-wage dipshits on my land.

Buying land can be difficult, but if you look at Joel Salatin's model of slowly building up and improving the productivity of his land and the land that he rents, it is difficult to make an argument against it.
And almost no maintenance costs once the system is up and running. All that money that goes to infrastrucutre and maintenance with aquapoincs goes to paying the people instead with a grazing system.
And you get a beautiful property with all manner of wildlife to boot. Not some building that has to be coded, regularly inspected, fucking red-taped bullshit.

How much did you make working at the market gardens?

Leo Morales
Leo Morales

Nigger, please.
I already own my own landscape business that I built from the ground by myself without taking a single loan. I worked side jobs for a few years so that I could buy the tools, truck and trailer to get going.
Now I do business in the best neighborhoods in my city.
Cattle grazing is the next business. I con't wait to see if land prices fall, because the timing is great for me. I'm sitting on a big chunk to buy a piece of land with. I've worked and saved for the future and made it all by busting my ass night and day.
I also have a wife and two, going on three children. I am seriously invested in the future and I want my children to be able to have something they can take into the future.

Also, I fucking hate working indoors. Ranching is the way of life for me. You enjoy being inside with your fish. I'll catch mine out of the resevoir I build on my land under the fresh air and sunshine.
All the while watching the land around me get more lush and vibrant with life everyday.
Some types of productivity can't be easily measured.

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

It's not the farmland….. It's all the surrounding land and forests. Canada is fucking big. Improving all our soil especially in the desert regions where I grow would be more than a challenge.

Camden Martin
Camden Martin

Also, what kind of market are you selling to?
What are you going to do when the rediculously high price of fish drops as more people get your idea and the market becomes saturated?
The fish guy at our market charges out the ass for a large tilapia. That shit will not be sustainable in a competitive market that causes the price to fall, without bringing in wage slaves.

My input costs will always be low and get less with time. How about yours?

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

How much did you make working at the market gardens?
Nothing. It was a 'learning experience'. Guess I am one of the low-wage dipshits you don't want on your land…lol. For me this is not about 'money' it is about survival of my extended family. Cattle are easy to move, steal and slaughter. They are vulnerable to roving gangs and others in ways that fish are not because it is a specialize contained operation that is easily defensible.
I'll catch mine out of the resevoir I build on my land under the fresh air and sunshine.
Trust me, 9+ hours a day working outside, I have no shortage of 'fresh air'. Sounds like you have some idea what you are doing even if you are a massive faggot.

Christopher Evans
Christopher Evans

Joel Salatin
Geoff Lawton
Allan Savory

It takes time and effort to get going. But once the system gets rolling, it builds itself.

They are doing this in Russia now. It can easily be done in Canada. The main problem now is going to be a shortage of labor. But that will change in the next generation or two. Build now and your grandchildren will be telling your story.

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

Cool video.
I've been composting in my grandmothers garden, keeping it going, though not as effectively as she use to. I've got corn, potatoes and peas growing in the main bed, near a fig tree. In another area, I've got her swiss chard continuing to grow (its delicious), and because I thought it would be fun, I planted some green onions I bought from the store after I used them to the base. they're now flowering giant bulbs so heavy they're falling over.

Now if only zoning would allow me to get some chickens or something I'd be set.

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William White
William White

China as well.

Ryan Ward
Ryan Ward

You don't have to improve all the soil at once. You just have to improve your lot and teach others how to do it. Slowly the land will transform back to being healthy.
Desert isn't impossible honestly. They're doing these systems in the Sahara with success and it desalinated the surrounding area.
Certainly not as easy as starting with previously forested land.
But look up Geoff Lawton, he has done a ton of desert systems. vid related.

Brayden Morales
Brayden Morales

This is exactly what I'm talking about. These systems require low-wage and even VOLUNTEER labor to operate. That is not a business model, it's a fucking joke.
You talk about how cows are slaves when you work for free. The fucking irony.

I do agree that it is more about setting up a system that will lead to my family being strong into the future. But you're an idiot if you think that money isn't going to greatly improve your family's ability to grow. How will your family expand if you aren't buiding uo the resources and land that your 5 children will need?
And the 25 grandchildren after them?
You better be worried about money, too. Appreciating the "value" of money is the important thing. It is only a vehicle to obtain more resources.

Cattle can be moved, you're right. Out of the fucking way of danger if necessary… You are stuck in one place with your operation. The power to your pumps gets cut and you're fucking starving.
I'd rather have a highly mobile family/tribe on horseback defending a swath of land and potentially setting off for greener pastures. If the roving mobs come and you're left trying to defend infrastruture, you're fucked.
You have to salt the earth to destroy pasture, and you have to cover a fuck ton of area. It only takes a single match to burn down a building.

Landon Bennett
Landon Bennett

Thanks, user.
Great things are happening in he world.
But most people's definition of "great" doesn't allow them to see this.

Asher Jones
Asher Jones

I hope they were at least giving you some of the extra produce. But, if you're working and not AT LEAST returning enough to keep you COMPLETELY fed (not just the left-overs) and sheltered, then you are less than a slave. At least slaves are physically sustained/maintained…

Jack Torres
Jack Torres

So you know about this, but you still think aquaponics is the way forward?
The potential to improve huge areas of waste lands and give people a wonderful life with earthworks and regenerative pasturing has so many more benefits.
You do you, though.

Zachary King
Zachary King

rain is BAD for crops
Ha, nice try shlomo. You put seed in dirt, then give it water, it makes it grow into plant. Plant make food. Dumb fucking kike, never worked a day in your life.
soybean
NOT FOOD
corn
WE GROW TOO MUCH!
This is a good thing. Less gibs for niggers in africa.

Justin Phillips
Justin Phillips

You're an idiot…

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

Says the faggot who can't read statistics. Tell me faggot, what happens to most of the US corn and soy production? Oh, and who actually owns the farms owning their debt is the same as owning them, it's called serfdom. that produce all this soy and corn, which mind you, is NOT PROFITABLE to produce at these quantities in normal years, and the loss is paid for by the US citizens through taxes, to cover the subsidies.
SOOOO
What do you have to say about that? You know, about poison and niggerfood being grown at a loss, to feed niggers, who are bred to replace us, and paid for out of our pockets?

Andrew Anderson
Andrew Anderson

I cannot understand why they subsidized the corn and soybean farms? It uses a lot of water, chemicals and energy. There are many plants that are much better than soybean and corns. The edible weeds are easy to take care of and it doesn’t use the chemical nor requires enormous amounts of water to sustain the weed plants. So easy that it can be done at home and have plentiful weeds to eat for weeks without going to the shops to buy the green leaves.

Alexander Powell
Alexander Powell

Another kike-free first post.
Somebody cool must be in here tonight.

Hudson King
Hudson King

Just stop being a lazy fatass, bend over and pull out the weeds. Farmers have been doing this all over the world for 1000s of years, lol.

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

They subsidize them because it makes food cheap. Cheap food means happy goyim. Happy goyim work hard for little money, and need to borrow to get the things that they want. As long as they borrow money, they can afford expensive goods. As long as goyim can afford expensive goods, Jews can sell them. Expensive goods generate higher taxes. Governments pledge tax revenue as collateral for loans when they sell bonds to the public. Bonds are sold so that governments can afford to subsidize soybeans and corn. Rinse and repeat.
The system is set up to generate a demand for borrowed money, i.e. finance.

Jackson Evans
Jackson Evans

Judging by what was done in 2016
What was the alternative, faggot?

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Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

Lowering your expectations regarding the ballot box.

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

There was no alternative but Trump, but making sure we pushed him harder for isolationism and supremacy (both militarily, financially, and racially i.e. European White) in the North Americas instead of being content with the bi-weekly "BUILDING THE WALL- haha CLINTON CLOWN" tweets.

Gavin Ortiz
Gavin Ortiz

That is so jewy. The happy goyim are stupid and they don’t realise that they can fucking eat the weeds at home for free. Argh, this is why we need the militaristic meritocracy so the idiots can be relegate to menial jobs only.

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

No such thing as alternatives. Now eat the blackpill, you either elect a zionist or a commie jew, get it?

Adam Jones
Adam Jones

What do you have to say about that? You know, about poison and niggerfood being grown at a loss, to feed niggers, who are bred to replace us, and paid for out of our pockets?
It appears he doesn't have much to say.

Ian Gonzalez
Ian Gonzalez

You are stuck in one place with your operation.
So are you user, you just don't think of it like that because you think you have mobility. I will be valuable to a warlord, because the knowledge that it takes to run a food system like mine that produces as much as it does will be valuable. Anyone can herd cattle and your 'value' is in the objects you tend…thus you are not valuable to a warlord.
You keep talking about this like it is easy to 'get land and get started' but land is fucking expensive user', you silver spoon cunt, if you are paying cash. That means that you are either independently wealthy, you have inherited (same thing) or that you are borrowing. Who says I am not improving my land as I go as well…I live in a place that will literally be paradise with a few more years worth of work.

Thomas Sullivan
Thomas Sullivan

IT TAKES MONEY user. I have put so much money into my own place that it is obscene to get things started. The Loess Plateau project took funding from the world bank. Even the Chinese government couldn't afford it. BECAUSE IT TAKES MONEY. Quit pretending that this is only a matter of 'just do it' you will lure anons into a live/system that they can't compete or be feasible in. It doesn't matter to you, because YOU HAVE MONEY ALREADY and you are speaking from the viewpoint of someone who has money. People have to 'start somewhere'. I was after knowledge so I 'started somewhere' in my education. You act like that is shameful but I am delighted that I learned what not to do on someone else's dollar.

Gabriel Murphy
Gabriel Murphy

The reality will not match the fantasy. No one is ever regretful of their effort and sad about their freedom but you are painting a false picture for people or your mind is skewed because you have money to do what you want already.

Landon Carter
Landon Carter

sells fruit tree/bush starters
That’s a great way to earn some extra cash while helping your community grow it’s own food as well.
This is why it’s important for us to build larger white communities, it’s hard for one family to do it all, but with a network of families some can focus on meat production, some on produce, some on producing energy. It allows higher quality in each area because people are able to specialize

Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

competition with developing nations is driving up food prices
<competition drives up prices
Here we go again. Do they no longer teach the basics of economics in schools? Competition drives prices down. The opposite effect of low supply.

Eli Roberts
Eli Roberts

I will be valuable to a Warlord

There's that slave mentality again, user. You just can't escape, can you?
And I earned every fucking penny I have.
True, my hillbilly father had the foresight to save and finally purchase land when I was in my mid-20's, so I will have an inheritance. But that is in the future. From the time I left school unto this day, I have paid my own way without any handouts. And I am building an independent inheritance for my own children.

Attacking me may make you feel better. And in the mindset of a ruler, I will let the little slave have his enjoyment. It will give him catharsis and satiate his little ego. And then he will go back to work so that he can pay his tribute.
Learn to think like a free man and then you will know how to think like that Warlord that you have already pledged your servitude to in your mind.

Carson Gomez
Carson Gomez

You stupid faggot. You said that rain wasn't a problem for crops. The farmers can't even plow their fields to put the seeds in the ground, because the fields are too waterlogged.
So, yes. You are a fucking idiot.

See how the little brained nigger can completely overlook his own stupidity and proceed to scream WHITEY NIGGER FOOD!

Also, if you went to the trouble of reading my other posts in this thread, you might not have over reacted. HA!
Right, a lazy-ass nigger like you bothering to do any more than the minimum effort and having any self-control!
I know, IT WAS a good joke!

Jose Barnes
Jose Barnes

30-50% of acreage for two staples, soybeans and corn remain unplanted

So supply/demand will drive crop prices up and farmers will actually make a decent profit margin on their crops? I don't see the issue here.

Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

Problem: Not getting to bitch. I wonder if they get compensated for their crops with the current 'market value'. This would be a windfall for them and they don't even have to work.

Isaac Murphy
Isaac Murphy

the only way to prevent things from growing is castrating the soil
no.
industrially yes.
but not for real food production.