/housepill/ - lost principles of longlasting building

Cooper Miller
Cooper Miller

there is a lot of talk about architecture and ugliness of postmodern design, but rarer do people go deeper in that topic and realize the structural stupidity of modern buildings and their toxicity to humans.

ITT Ill present many principles of longlasting and healthy house buildin Ive gathered from researching architecture and all kinds of building technology, Ill touch on (((construction industry))) which is with (((pharmaceutical industry))) one of the most corrupt ones.

To those who doubt that this is a pol thread, ask yourself about the problem of housing and the problem of quality housing.

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John Cook
John Cook

It’s not really a Zig Forums thread, but we had one of these roughly a year ago.

Xavier King
Xavier King

these are principles to look for in buying or DIYing, Ill go in details…

1st principle - BREATHABILITY

2nd principle - SIMILAR PHISICAL PROPERTIES

3rd principle - INBUILT "FLEX" / IMPACT ABSORBTION

4th – HAT and BOOTS

5th - if you mix materials mix them HORIZONTALLY (gravity will prevent significant movement), avoid vertical layering of different materials as much as you can

Thomas Scott
Thomas Scott

OP are you the builder user who knows his shit?

Cameron Bennett
Cameron Bennett

anything relating to specific avenues of kike culture degradation is Zig Forums

Julian Brooks
Julian Brooks

I'm going to be building me an earthbag home.

Grayson Anderson
Grayson Anderson

Yup - I remember that thread
Our current cheap construction
buildings made to decompose

Colton Green
Colton Green

1st principle - BREATHABILITY

All walls need to "breath" enough so that moisture will never be trapped anywhere. Modern building materials used by contractors are the worst ones to use. They trap moisture and cause problems that ensure job security for the contractors. Vapor barriers rot houses from the inside out simply from bodily perpetration and cooking moisture. Using vapor barriers requires a host of other support systems to ensure the entire thing actually works just enough to keep contractors from getting sued quickly. That's the main reason why you have extremely old masonry houses and castles still doing well today, yet there are so many modern masonry houses that are falling apart, yet both are well kept and not neglected by their occupants.

Ever felt phisically sick in a modern building and felt like it lacks oxygen, but dont feel that way in a stone house or a log cabin? That is because modern houses are (((airtight))) which is related to asthma problems kids devlop.

all diy is implicitly white and if architecture is pol so it construction

I guess so xD

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Thomas Hernandez
Thomas Hernandez

2nd principle - SIMILAR PHISICAL PROPERTIES

all materials need to have similar physical property's

for example a house from bricks with lime mortar is going to last forever because lime mortar and bricks have similar stretch and flex.

now that house gets repaired with cement mortar because its faster and cheaper and the repaired wall is going to get many cracks because concrete is much harder than lime and harder than the bricks.

same with timber construction houses which wood survived the rain for more years than the USA is old get a new coat of paint.

the people use new latex waterproof extra chemical paint and the wooden beams are compost after 20 years.

why? because MC Paint is going to get a small crack and traps moisture behind it and because its water tight it can never leave the wood until your house collapses.

pic rel - notice that its framed by joinery and not by steel screws. that house will last +100 years

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Leo Sullivan
Leo Sullivan

3rd principle - INBUILT "FLEX" / IMPACT ABSORBTION

Just like God creates man with a brain that floats within the skull in spinal fluid to embrace the impact, house need to do the same. Think judo, embrace the attack, dont fight it heads on.

Earth moves constatnly and McConcrete breakes, McRebar gets wet and enhances braking of McConcrete.

Stone foundations are "flexible" that is why they last so long. Similar principle goes with stone/brick walls.

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Bentley Sullivan
Bentley Sullivan

4th – Hat and boots

self explanatory - rain/moistuere/ice protection, if you are under the rain, you absoltuly need waterproof boots and wp hat/umbrella, rest is personal pref

Same as with protective clothing - most hardwearing clothing are your helmet and work boots, EVERY reliable house build has respected that principle and is built on quality foundation and a roof with a solid overhang

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Benjamin Anderson
Benjamin Anderson

Forgot pic and a few reasons
bullet-proof
tornado-proof
keeps cool in heat
keep warm in cold, if using correct insulating particulates
flood-proof
cheap
simple construction
devised by Persian Aryan to provide good housing for people
Yeah I think this will do nicely.

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Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

5th - if you mix materials mix them HORIZONTALLY (gravity will prevent significant movement)

while layering vertically does give solid thermal properties, it is bound to fail since it isnt compressed by gravity but with moisture and expansion its just a matter of time for your facade to portrude.

Building a thicc monowall with double layers of brick or thicc logs is a far superior option.

pic rel are modern options of insulation that are all shortlasting (even the "good ones" like external rock wool plastered on aerated brick will fail after 20-30 years). We should bring back monowall

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Charles Diaz
Charles Diaz

mods are gay if they trash this thread, because it'll be better than anything in the catalogue for months

Christopher Anderson
Christopher Anderson

I plan to build an initial house with cob and eventually build a larger house with stone. Building one out of stone will be an enormous project, and will take many years to complete, but is something that will be able to stay standing for generations if done correctly.
The cob will go up much quicker, and that house can eventually be for other family or be a guest house.
Any anons have experience building their own homes?

Caleb Morales
Caleb Morales

Good thread. Bump

Cooper Smith
Cooper Smith

stone
I suggest looking into Earthbag designs, friend. It, too, can last for generations, and is easier and cheaper and quicker to complete than 100% stone would be.

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

OK, enough me preaching, Im willing to help if you have questions but since DIYism is one of the whitest thing you can do I also want to learn tips from other DIY anons.
Also, last time I started this thread here, I contacted some anons via burner mail for advice etc, so here is a proton if you have additional questions on buying house etc.

housepill (et) protonmail . com

earthbag/dome house

this are very good, however, you shouldnt do them in high rain area and possible in cold areas (?) and they create complexities in interiors but provide extreme durability for low investment

you can do both possibly, stone foundations, cob upper, but I recommend just using reinfroced concrete for framing + bricks, much more simple and done more times

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Ayden Clark
Ayden Clark

shouldn't do them in high rain areas
Nonsense. They're built all the time in tropical jungle nations in Latin America and SE Asia all the time, and they handle the humidity just fine.
and cold
Just add insulating particulates to the mix, it's no biggie.

Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

construction industry
most corrupt ones.

It is.

Anthony Scott
Anthony Scott

also be wary of anyone in construction industry, scams are all over the place, yuppie fags do deserve them doe but everyone without basic knowledge can get scammed heavily

Nonsense. They're built all the time in tropical jungle nations in Latin America and SE Asia all the time, and they handle the humidity just fine.

Interesting, Im not familiar with dome/earthbaf houses, how doesnt the roof leak?

John Thomas
John Thomas

Earthbag
I have considered that too. Once I have land I’ll build some stuff like a shed, kids playhouse, or a root cellar to experiment with different materials. But from what I’ve seen I think I prefer cob. A long term stone project is still something I’d like to do, but earthbags could be good for smaller buildings.
Aesthetically they are rather shit, but I guess with good planning an earthbag home could look less like a turd.

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

It's plastic bags, right? Then plaster is aded to cover the interior/exterior surfaces, so it's pretty damn water-tight. Here's a video that might pique your interest. I got more if you're like.
aesthetically shit
Different people have different tastes. I personally love the designs and the potential appearances, as well as the undeniable utility.

Jose Fisher
Jose Fisher

For some reason, this style of building is standard in continental euope but non present in anglo world, tested with time already and very straightforward to do. No innate problems with it and relativly cheap to do.

Reinforced concrete frame + red brick
tornado proof
earthquake proof
no termite
solid insulation

It's plastic bags, right? Then plaster is aded to cover the interior/exterior surfaces, so it's pretty damn water-tight.

do you have video of thar part being build. here is a video of a more conservative approach

Cameron Scott
Cameron Scott

That is because modern houses are (((airtight)))
This is false. Modern building have ventilation.
which is related to asthma problems kids devlop.
Citation needed.

notice my assertion with no supporting evidence
Yes.

rebar braks (sic) concrete
No. Rebar is used for reinforcing concrete.

This is incomprehensible.

this works better because I said so
It's like homeopathy for home building. How about some sources. Some numbers. Something that validates what you're saying.

OP has no idea what they're talking about.

Dylan Turner
Dylan Turner

I can understand the appeal but they look like turd mounds to me. Would probably only use to build root cellar. I plan to build much larger, with two stories, so earth bags probably not my best bet, and I’d like to keep plastic to a minimum.
What about a house that was all stone? Or mostly stone. Have you seen something like that done? I’ve come across one, took the guy 30 years to build though

Parker Scott
Parker Scott

being build
Yes, here this one ought to give you an idea. This one was built in Guatemala, a very wet humid place.

Brandon Ward
Brandon Ward

this video is just a scratch on the surface of toxicity of modern house builds, forget about xenoestrogens in food, think about the air you breathe in the house and stuff you touch in the house, its all poly based and toxic

Modern building have ventilation.

they have to have it since they dont breathe by themselves, they RELLY on ventilation (=another expense) but you dont seem to want to understand it.

What about a house that was all stone? Or mostly stone. Have you seen something like that done?

had the best sleep of my life in one and in blazing summer heat with no AC or HVAC. They are a logistic nightmare to build doe and probably not ideal for very cold areas (wood is better isolator unlike stone), with stone houses you almost alsways have to go deep to count for high thermal mass of stone so that is another expense.

Anthony Reed
Anthony Reed

Was there an archive of the last thread? I looked for a while, couldn't find it.
the people use new latex waterproof extra chemical paint
Need to repaint my 100 year old house. What type of paint would you recommend?

Juan Bailey
Juan Bailey

larger
In this news coverage, it shows a system with that family-size in mind.

Jackson Perry
Jackson Perry

No. Rebar is used for reinforcing concrete
In theory, yes. In practice, if rebar gets wet (any cracks in the concrete, etc) the rebar will rust and expand, destroying the concrete.

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

plastic bags

thread carefully, they are not a longterm option, if you want to do it right use RC. Im still sceptical about leakage.

It should be in archive, but Ill post an infopasta some user did later, for now this video might be usefull, Peter Ward has a great channel.

what paint

avoid everything that is (((super waterproof))), sure water wont get in, but trough walls, but how will water (=moisture created from inside) get out?

Aaron Allen
Aaron Allen

all of these bridges are +100 years old, trick to longterm durabiltiy is different that the trick to shortterm durability. With longterm durability you have to build structure with "softer" materials to prevent them becomeing BRITTLE, (similar to tempering steel), but today noone seems to give a shit and then you have catastrophies like Mirandi

here is an infopasta

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Thomas Walker
Thomas Walker

Might be fine as a temporary solution, but aesthetics matter, especially if something is going to be around for a long time. Would rather spend years building a stone house with my children that my grandkids could live in, but could live in a turd while doing that I guess, cob just seems more versatile
Girlfriend likes the idea of building our own home, she wants to learn to make stained glass windows for it and do mosaics on the floors.
wood is better isolator unlike stone
I didn’t realize that, it’s fairly mild here, usually stays above freezing, but it’s very wet.
I’ve looked at using brick instead, might be easier on the logistics but not sure how the cost would compare

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

Ornamental Drawing, and Architectural Design by Robert Scott Burn (1857)

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Juan Jones
Juan Jones

Vitruvius - The Ten Books on Architecture (Translated by Morris H. Morgan)(1914)

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Carter Foster
Carter Foster

the quality of modern materials used in current construction is utter garbage, its not the lack of skill of the carpenter that makes these buildings such crapholes its low quality traditional materials and high toxicity modern materials (osb, poly insulation etc).

Here is a great documentary on choosing in preparing wood for construction, this all sounds like esoterism at first but it makes perfect sense (wood like to water levels is affected by Moon)…question is why have we started ignoring this knowledge?

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

the quality of modern materials used in current construction is utter garbage, its not the lack of skill of the carpenter that makes these buildings such crapholes its low quality traditional materials and high toxicity modern materials (osb, poly insulation etc).

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Nathan Robinson
Nathan Robinson

Here is an explaination of barrier classifications:

Type 1 (Barrier)
Impermeable (≤1 US perm, or ≤57 SI perm) - such as glass, sheet metal, polyethylene sheet, rubber membrane, oil-based paints, vinyl wall coverings, etc;

Type 2 (Retarder)
Semi-permeable (1-10 US perm, or 57-570 SI perm) - such as unfaced expanded or extruded polystyrene, asphalt or bitumen coated kraft paper, plywood, some latex-based paints, etc;

Type 3 (No Real Protection)
Permeable (>10 US perm, or >570 SI perm) - such as gypsum board, plaster, fiberglass, cellulose, or wool insulation, board lumber, concrete block, brick, etc;

Landon Bailey
Landon Bailey

HEY! That book is covered in Hortlers!

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Daniel White
Daniel White

modern building
Is called 'Platform Framing'. It followed 'Balloon Framing', logically, as it makes little sense to hang the floors off of the walls.

All walls need to "breath" enough so that moisture will never be trapped anywhere
This is what windows and doors are for, to air-out the moisture that builds up in the living space.

airtight
jewish
Air sealing (walls) reduces heat flow from air movement (convection) and prevents water vapor in the air from entering the wall. In a 100-square foot wall, one cup of water can diffuse through untreated drywall (without a vapor barrier) in a year but 50 cups of water can enter through a 1/2-inch diameter round hole. You do not need to worry about diffusion through materials like you do actual holes into your (modern) walls.

Eli Myers
Eli Myers

all materials need to have similar physical properties
have similar stretch and flex
framed by joinery and not by steel screws
will last +100 years
How do structural screws, which are made to be flexible like nails, not last 100yrs, especially if you cover/plug your fastener holes and frame with structural logic, making sure the fastener isn't the only joinery ? Hardwood dowel as fasteners is pretty based imo but nobody is doing it really yet, or anymore.

timber construction houses which wood survived the rain for more years than the USA is old
Also used mud and clay with organic filler as chinking to seal the gaps, which kind of counters your claim here. wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_cabin wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_house wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_framing wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodworking_joints

Paint
You have to keep painted. Let no cracks or peels.
Stain is better imo but I am unsure about the polymer used to seal it liek with Sikkens semi-transparent. You don't really need plastic sealer from moisture only uv protection, unless you are in the water. Pro timber restorers use an epoxy (plastic) to repair old wood and stop decay. This may cause more issues down the road idk.

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

kys croat retard

Levi Collins
Levi Collins

Wasn't there a issue for a while where the drywall being used was cheap shit from china, and after a while it started stinking like ammonia really bad

Elijah Morgan
Elijah Morgan

This is what windows and doors are for, to air-out the moisture that builds up in the living space.

if that were true, you wouldnt need expensive HVAC systems.

Air sealing

many modern homes have major issues with moisture, this whole (((air tight))) construction is overdesign stupidity

kys croat retard

go eat some OSB for breakfast

regarding joining 2 pieces of wood its like this:
1.joinery
2.bolts
3.nails

Joinery takes a lot of time but bolts can last a lot as well since they account in wood movement unlike nails or even worse screws that dont allow much movement.

Also used mud and clay with organic filler as chinking to seal the gaps, which kind of counters your claim here.

it supports my claim if anything, mud is softer than wood and with expanding it wont damage the wood, you just re-chink it from time to time.

yes, many modern materials have longterm issues that they werent even tested for before selling them

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Justin Thompson
Justin Thompson

People can't fly, so don't forget your Moat.

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Owen Evans
Owen Evans

Yes these pictures in your posts used to be the way we used to build here in central Europe. But now everything looks like this. Fucking shoe boxes. They plop them between those beautiful old houses everywhere, making the entire townscape look like shit.
I was asking if some jew designer is behind this new style in a similar thread about a year ago, but apparently it's just a sign of the times.

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Jose Smith
Jose Smith

Yes these pictures in your posts used to be the way we used to build here in central Europe. But now everything looks like this. Fucking shoe boxes.

what is worst is that I can get on with that shoebox design if it werent such a crapbox structurally speaking

no overhang

have you seen the water build up on the walls? you can usually spot the water stains

maxcompact mega maxy poly gypsium 2000 pannels

I simply cant stand the look of that shit plastic maxcompact panel or any king of ventilated facade, such a gimmicky system that changes it colour or warps after 20 years from sun, still better that foam insulation americans use but europe as well is being cucked by gimmicky construction. ventialted facades became a thinkg just because it requires less skillfull labour and time

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Andrew Price
Andrew Price

have any information on cave houses or recommended books?
I want to build a decent timber frame home but next to or above bedrock so i can extend into it and shaft the property value jews.

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Dominic Bell
Dominic Bell

Using natural and sound construction methods is bascially going stealth with nature

Josiah Lee
Josiah Lee

The Inca empire and the Roman empire didn't used rebar in their masonry

Evan Ortiz
Evan Ortiz

I live in an earthbag house I build illegally in Western Oregon. Rainy as fuck. Build in a flood prone river-bottom. The building is … how do I say this… EXCELLENT. I spent less than $4000 building the entire thing. One guy, 2 months, plus a month solid of cement work (ugh) got me 310 sq feet of warm-in-winter, cold-in-summer earthbag goodness. I fucking LOVE my little house. My wife and baby son live here with me. We pay $200 a year in taxes on our land since it is (((unbuildable))) due to flood zones and ag zones and building codes and other fake bullshit. I have to fall, saw and split 4 cords of firewood to stay warm each winter. I do about 10 cords a year by hand and keep all the good straight logs for poles/sawed lumber. Anything really nice I paint the ends and stack it to dry for a few years under some big trees. Iv got quite a pile now so I gotta get me a little sawmill…

I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE DISENFRANCHISED WHITE MEN HERE TO DO THIS.

I lost 25 lbs. I dont have to have a real job any more. I spend every single day with my wife and son. I havent missed even half a day with them in 2 years. Needless to say there is a new baby on the way soon!

Keep each building small. I have a shipping container for a kitchen. A little log cabin for a bath-house, A backup stick-build cabin for guests or just when one of us wants to get some space. I have a shop made from a few containers with a roof over them for equipment maintenance and tools and such.

This is in western oregon on the coast range. It rains A FUCKING LOT here. As I said before it is in a low-lying flood prone area and I have had zero water problems. The walls are 2 feet thick of packed clay earth. I shot them with my .357 as well as emptied a mag of 5.56 into them and not a single round penetrated I have since cemented them and painted them.

The hardest part is getting about 10 acres covered in heavy trees. If you can get that you are golden as the trees can hide your place and will provide fuel for your home.

Quit being a wage slave.

Quit working to end the white race.

Quit committing suicide every single day.

Quit the fucking world. Its fun, healthy, cheap and fucking AWESOME.

Michael Young
Michael Young

Engineer here.

The way you prevent rot in your walls is by looking at the moisture and temperature profile across the wall cross-section. Different materials in the walls will have different thermal and moisture resistance properties, and you need to make sure that the moisture/temperature profiles will not cause there to be a dew point. Its especially bad if there's a dew point subjected to freeze/thaw.

You need a psychrometric chart for this. There should be metric and standard versions.

google.com/search?q=psychrometric chart&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_i7zA79_iAhXCg-AKHUlfBakQ_AUIECgB&cshid=1560202598026278&biw=1140&bih=686

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Michael Parker
Michael Parker

Someone wanna tell me why we abandoned roman concrete and are apparently not using it today? Is it cost or planned obsolescence?

Parker Diaz
Parker Diaz

What is your average yearly expenditure? Where do you get that money? Where did you meet your wife and was she open to the idea of what your life is now? What do you do for fun?

Carter Peterson
Carter Peterson

Reminds me of SLIPFORM STONE. Slipform stone is a building method using only rough stone and some boards and cement. It can be reinforced with steel as well if needed. It is a very low skill form of stone construction and is also very forgiving to the novice. I was originally going to build with slipform but there are absolutely zero stones on my property ha ha. Not even ONE. So I did earthbag instead since the place has tons of high-clay soil in some areas. Sure, one can have stone brought in but it takes A LOT to do something like this. Look into slipform if you want an extremely high quality building for the cost of time and cement only. Make it with curves and rebar and slight inward tipping so the walls are self-supporting and you will be looking at an AWESOME building that will last 1000 years if you keep the water off those walls. If you soak the walls they will frost-wedge in the winter and it will all come down but keep it dry and it will last forever.

Kayden Jones
Kayden Jones

This is in western oregon on the coast range. It rains A FUCKING LOT here. As I said before it is in a low-lying flood prone area and I have had zero water problems. The walls are 2 feet thick of packed clay earth.

here is what I would like to know, how do you protect the top of the earthbag building to not leak or simply get wet? Is the top treated with heavier clay? Im thinking in hat and boots paradigm of having a roof and overhang so what is the trick?

Someone wanna tell me why we abandoned roman concrete and are apparently not using it today? Is it cost or planned obsolescence?

official version - we cant into vulcanic ash, no way, its impossible

most likely - other types of cement offer a better profit margin

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Parker Cook
Parker Cook

we cant into vulcanic ash
That sounds retarded as fuck. Thanks for the info.

Jonathan Phillips
Jonathan Phillips

Houses like cars are designed by (((bankers))) and (((lawyers))). Red tape is the new HB graphite pencil.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

So you're saying you need an expert before you build… and even then you are FUCKED if the climate changes.

Kayden Rogers
Kayden Rogers

Ok, some more background so you have a clearer picture. I bought A TON of land. It took every penny I had to do it and I got a slammin' deal. for a rough estimate it is more than a mile walk to go all the way around my property. This is not really necessary but it worked out good in this instance because I have been leasing out about 80% of it. I get about 1k per month for this with no end in sight. The remaining land I live on, do my firewood and soon sawn lumber on. I have 2 farm stands. since I have a road to the north and a road to the south. They have small solar systems and a few AGM batteries to run a small fridge for eggs and stuff like that that I have extra. I make a couple hundred bucks a month off of those with no effort.

We have bee hives… Like 30 of those goddammed thing I think? I hate bees but we get thousands of pounds of honey so Its worth it. I sell some of it. I brew up some of it into mead which I (sell/trade in minecraft cough cough) along with a small pot still for … (Distilling "water "in minecraft). I collect rainwater off my roof to drink since I have no well or the power to run a well pump. I do have a solar system that I use for computers and such. A backup generator for the winter that drinks about 30 gallons of gas a year.

I do some work on the side for people and also make stuff out of wood. I make chairs and tables out of huge slabs with mortise and tenon construction all by hand with chisels and axes. Its kinda rough looking but you could park a dumptruck on the table and it woudl be fine. I dont sell many but when I do they are like 3kusd.

I raise pigs and chickens. I dol 10 pigs a year on partially forested pasture. I never buy pig feed and dont breed them. I just buy new piglets from another lady up the road every fall. Usually in September. I move them every few days with electric fences. With no grain they grow slower and are leaner but after a year they are usually 200 lbs of fatty baconey goodness. I sell them for about $800 on the hoof. Sometimes I cant sell them all and take a cut but usually they go pretty well. Yay craigslist! I barely keep my chicken flock above replacement levels because the hawks take them all but I get eggs CONSTANTLY and I think my newly crowned rooster (i ate the old one as he didnt keep the hens alive) is going to be a fucking winner… He has a black stripe accross his beak so I name him Hitler and we salute him when he crows. Its pretty fun. I pretty much never leave this place. Only when I need a quick run to the store to get something like cheese, milk, flower, coffee, that I can't make myself.

I have a cellphone bill which is my internet. I have car insurance. I am a (slightly) disabled vet so my medical is trhough the VA but honestly I havent gone in 5 years. They will just try to pill me to death. Not thanks. Private medical insurance is the real killer. 1k/month for my wife and son. That is the murderous expense that I can't avoid. There is no lower cost option. I tried to get the free shit a few times but I am never approved or I fuck up some paperwork or something. I gave up. Its not worth the time. Easier to just go do something. I hope it all explodes and burns down so I can just pay a witch-doctor in moonshine or something but the goddammed economy will never die.

I still file taxes but never owe anything since i have nearly no income that touches the levels that require payments. I met my wife in a huge dumpy city in the south-west. She is a city girl through and through. This was about 10 years ago. She was VERY hesitant to do this.

I told her she would hever have to work again and could stay home with her kids and get rabbits. She quit the next week. Women LOVE rabbits… even though an owl ate them all in the middle of the night. :/

Isaac Ramirez
Isaac Ramirez

here is what I would like to know, how do you protect the top of the earthbag building to not leak or simply get wet? Is the top treated with heavier clay? Im thinking in hat and boots paradigm of having a roof and overhang so what is the trick?

I just put a roof over it. The building is round. There is a central post that is 10 feet from all the walls and " 12 feet high? I forget. The walls are 7 feet high. I got 16' 2x8 dimentional lumber and made 12 beams running radially off the center post to an outside post. This gives me a 4 foot porch all around the building and a slightly sloping roof that is about a 2-12 pitch. It looks like a china-hat sitting on a cylander if that makes sense. see the pic. Mine is bigger with a 12" diam tree truck as a center post. It looks cool and I put a table hanging off of the post as well.

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Jacob Powell
Jacob Powell

Portland is WAY cheaper… That stuff was from some local volcanic ash stuff i think.. Not common.

Joshua Ortiz
Joshua Ortiz

Wow. This post is what is wrong with the world… NONE of this shit is necessary. Just roughly follow a functional design that is not expensive. If it goes bad just burn it down and do-over better. If it wont burn make it a chicken coop and do-over. The problem is that people think a house needs to cost half a million bucks when you can build a house for like 5k on 5k of land if you want to be a cheapass.

Oy vey, the engineer won't agree with me but he has to go to work and I have to go water my garden. simple as that.

Luis Thomas
Luis Thomas

even though an owl ate them all in the middle of the night.
Did you eat the owl so you could get the rabbits back in nutrient form or does your wife like owls even though they eat rabbits?

Caleb Scott
Caleb Scott

Motherfucker got away… I wouldda fed him to the pigs but im not getting outta bed at 3:00am for that bullshit.

Jacob Jackson
Jacob Jackson

Okay, but how the fuck
I mean you had a job to buy the land and were in the system to meet people. You bought the tools.
Most of us (all of us) (every single one of us) sits at home in mom's basement (I wish it was a basement), so how the fuck do we just up and go buy land?
How many women did it take to try that on until one was like "okay, but just because rabbits."

Dylan James
Dylan James

I've never done a day of hard labor in my life.
What the fuck is dirt anyway
Do you grow vegetables?

Alexander Morales
Alexander Morales

479>>13378488
And who do you lease the land to

Nathan Hernandez
Nathan Hernandez

Yeah… If you are a poorfag then you are fucked. I worked for like 15 years as a heavy equipment mechanic. Miserable work but it pays OK. Shouldda got into being a roughneck in North Dakota or something like that… You will never ever EVER find worthwhile land that is reasonably priced. I bot mine after the '08 housing collapse. What that means is this. YOU BETTER BE GETTING READY FOR THE FINANICAL RESET. Get some silver. Get some skills. Know your local realestate like the back of your hand. I spent 4 years, every single night with almost no misses tracking every property in an 8 county area. When I saw the place I bought I was on it with an offer about 2 hours after it was posted since I knew the area and the property as soon as I saw the pictures.

You can do this all from mom's basement. I also bought my tools but there was really not a lot to that. Hammers, axes, chisels, a chainsaw, rusty old truck etc. The LAND is the trick. That is all that matters. WIth a pile of good land in a good climate with year-round water and heavy trees you can live forever for free.

As for my wife ha ha… Yeah she is a great woman and I am lucky to have her and treat her as such. I have heard that there is a MASSIVE shortage of worthwhile young clean hard working men in the Mormon Church lately because they all leave or end up chasing the ((($$$)))

lease is to a farmer.

You are going to die soon. Enjoy your last days of the modern world.

David Diaz
David Diaz

"Oh hey, this sounds a lot like the hat and boots ano-"

oh fuck it's you. I love you, keep posting.

Cameron Morales
Cameron Morales

I'm the same guy you're replying to in all 3 of those replies.

Jaxon Miller
Jaxon Miller

pls don't forget

Justin Hall
Justin Hall

I live in Tobermory way the fuck up North where the growing season is very short and it's cold all the time and the trees are all evergreens (mostly cedars) and the ground is rocks.

What should I build on my 85 acres?

Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson

Ever felt phisically sick in a modern building and felt like it lacks oxygen, but dont feel that way in a stone house or a log cabin? That is because modern houses are (((airtight))) which is related to asthma problems kids devlop.

Yeah I feel that in the shitty mansion my parents built and I grew up in. Costs millions of dollars and is garbage to live in.

Zachary Harris
Zachary Harris

earthbag house
Did you use burlap or plastic for your bags and why ?
Also what are they filled with ?

Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor

I used the standard white poly sandbags. The bigger sized ones that are like a pillow case. I filled them with local soil that I dug by hand (making the foundation and drainage ditches… UGGGH. If any of you fuckers actually choose to do this … RENT AN EXCAVATOR OR BOBCAT TO DO THE DIGGING. My god it was a lot of work.

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Andrew Moore
Andrew Moore

OK, so I own 150 acres, get $4,500/YEAR leasing to a farmer (temporary). How are you getting 1K/MONTH?

Walking the perimeter of 150 acres is 6 miles… correct? 150/6 (to solve for 1 mile) means you own 25 acres.

I've seen you post in the past; some of the details just don't add up, but you are giving anons good advice. Owning and working the land is a fantastic goal. 5 acres = Valhalla for most normal people. That's the target amount.

I've been effortposting irl as hard as is humanly possible for nearly a decade. Still not off the grid, but the quality of life is 50X better.

Please don't exaggerate, that's all I ask. I have also been keeping bees for several years. Have 10 hives. Spent $4,200 so far… I let the bees have the honey to overwinter… still have 30% losses. Maybe the Varroa Destructor mite isn't in Oregon (LOL).

We get thousands of pounds of honey

Infuriating. Internet sensations (fakes) claim 80lb. per hive. I am certified, sub to 2 periodicals, have read The Hive and the Honeybee, The Beekeeper's Bible, etc. (the classics) and am a member of 2 clubs serving 3 counties. 50-70% losses (mainly to mites) this winter. The only people that get thousands of pounds of honey have hundreds (1,000 typically) of hives.

PLEASE ELABORATE ON YOUR ZERO INCOME, WILDLY PROFITABLE HOMESTEAD. I'm all ears. Teach me. I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Post pics and spreadsheets or stop LARPing. If you're off the grid, you have nothing to lose by posting a few pics for me. I'm clearly on the wrong track here.

Angel Butler
Angel Butler

if that were true, you wouldnt need expensive HVAC systems.
You don't. Code-wise, the energy code unconstitutionally requires a heating unit scaled to the space and windows scaled in the same way for ventilation and, in some cases, emergency exit.

many modern homes have major issues with moisture, this whole (((air tight))) construction is overdesign stupidity
No, it's underdesign stupidity. The entire reason there is moisture is because it collects but dooesn't vent; labor doesn't seal the walls properly. Either vent it (old style) or prevent it (new style) or, most logically, depending on context, a bit of both. All the pics you are posting of underlayment siding rot and mold look like what vinyl or composite siding does to wood underlayment with a type1 vapor barrier on the interior walls: collects moisture, holds it, and decays the organic materials. If they had used actual stone on the one pic in they would have no rot, as you can see best in pic related 4. This airtight approach is also why fags use spray insulation fill because it seals and fills and doesn't sink or soak like fiberglass or rockwool. Actual wool is good tho, as long as it stays mostly dry. I use no insulation fill but mechanically and chemically seal my seams to stop airflow. Since insulation is describing only the cavity, it is insulated.

For the record you are correct about timber framing tho good thread. Thanks user.

Levi Peterson
Levi Peterson

It honestly does come off larpy. The whole wife and kids thing gives it away.

Juan Garcia
Juan Garcia

This
The bunny and owl story was also a giveaway (aside from the exaggerations: a ton, etc). Also, no (((city girl))) will quit her job just so she can trust a man who has nothing society (women) think worthy.

Where can I find young women who don't know English in my area? I'm ready to settle down.

Cooper Morris
Cooper Morris

bolts
I use bolts for gates and fastening structures to foundations but it seems ikea has the right idea using bolts for usability (assembly and integrity). Timber houses, and ones fastened with bolts, can be disassembled and relocated like the old days but it is so much faster to put up a structure with screws. Nails are faster than scews bu tare made so soft that they bend and often the effort removing one is equal to driving almost a hundred, no matter the size of your claw.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Chattel_house

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

I get to live my dreams by jewing out my land

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Connor Flores
Connor Flores

5 acres = Valhalla for most normal people. That's the target amount.
10 or go home.

Julian Jones
Julian Jones

Fine, just remember that 11+ is a tax problem unless you defer it (full time agricultural use). I'm on 150 and NOT larping.

David Wilson
David Wilson

No. Rebar is used for reinforcing concrete.
Rebar is often installed with rust already on it.
As other anons have mentioned, when the concrete cracks, the rebar rusts.
That rust expands and further cracks the rebar.

Basalt rebar is a major game changer in this regard.
It doesn't rust, and doesn't degrade.
But it's expensive.

Ian Sullivan
Ian Sullivan

further cracks the rebar.
Fug.
Concrete.

Carter Thomas
Carter Thomas

HAT AND BOOTS

we need this shit

Josiah Edwards
Josiah Edwards

Oh, this thread again. I approve

Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

These are custom manufactured log homes. They are good. How does the cost /sq compare to a modern american canned home? without many construction skills, what will it cost to have comparable natural solid home built?

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Dylan Scott
Dylan Scott

Barn and water rights (that I claimed and lease since I have both sides of the stream… flood land is all of a sudden valuable now right? It is when it is the headwaters of a stream and the previous dude was not paying attention when his ex-wife was raping his ass in a divorce. meanwhile I was talking to the water master weekly… Remember, I did my homework on it for years. Water is a big fucking deal and many people don't understand how fucking powerful water rights are. You can change the point of draw for water from anywhere in the watershed… think about that… So GET the water-rights and then perfect them then shop them around. Various public and private entities will buy that water. The last scrap of allodial title left in the US is water and mineral rights. Surface rights are pozzed as fuck.

Land is a quarter mile on a side… Relatively square so about a quarter section. Section is a mile on a side which is 4 miles all the way around. so 640 acres. I have about 1/4 that much. So half a mile on a side. That makes it +-160 acres. Did I fuck that math up? Its all bottomland that is super likely to flood and thankfully I have not flooded yet but tick tock ya know? Much of the reason I could afford it is because it is SUPER wet. I just deal with it.

I mess up the details a bit from time to time to stay safe. My home is not legal. I dont want to be homeless and take environmental fines for an outhouse and stuff like that…

Hives are spread out across the whole property. (why does everyone group them?) many on the periphery… makes me smile to sell honey to a neighbor… I never move them. They are 10 frame boxes (the deep ones) with 2 supers. Each frame of 20ea/box is like 10 lbs. x30 I don't take them all. We rob them kinda when we feel like it throughout the spring and summer. I have never lost a hive to disease. Been runnign them for 5 years. I bought 3 boxes from a guy on CL. Bought bees. Then copied the boxes using cedar and a nailgun. They are ugly and sometimes suck but they work more or less. I put a piece of aluminum roofing flashing from the dump on the top with a staple gun. some have roofing tar stuff. one has a piece of rotting plywood and a rock as a roof. Most everything around here is straight up junkyard wars. Its UGLY. I think a bear attacked one recently because it is smashed and gone. They swarm from time to time. We try to catch them and stick them in a new box. Wife took some bee class at a college online and sticks this shit (forgot what its called) in the hives to make them make a lot of queens then we get them and stick them in nuke boxes. Again, I hate those fucking things but a thousand pounds of honey is not really a lot in good conditions with a bunch of hives over an entire year in zone 8b. selling it is the trick. No one will pay the high-ass prices and I dont want to get fucked with a wholesale price hence the mead… If you only get 1 lb of honey from a hive in a year… !!! whew why bother? that is like what? a pint? not even a full frame? You should be able to get like half a gallon out of a super right? couple times a year?

I don't know/understand how to strip personally identifable info out of a image so sorry… no pics.

I don't have any spreadsheets. I quit my real jobs remember? To be honest the only real trick I have up my sleeve is that I have no bills. this means I can make 1000 bucks and every penny is free and clear. What is killing you is your house., your student loans and Your bills. Your wifes hairdresser, gasoline driving to work over and over and over and over. Income taxes to feed niggers. sales taxes to feed niggers. that shit adds up. Its not perfect by any means. I get hurt A LOT. I do a lot of duct-tape and paper-towl bandaging of wounds. I have 3 missing teeth right now and another one that is going to go this year. I will likely never be able to afford to get them fixed at this point and will look like a meth head in 10 years. I just don't fucking care any more. (im late 30s) I am not really super profitable i just have no expenses so its easy as hell to get like a couple thousand a month extra by doing small stuff. . I have maybe 5k a year extra? if that? I live really cheap. I dont have a lot of stuff that is mandatory for modern living. You still do. That is why you fail.

Justin Davis
Justin Davis

5 ac is pretty tight. You will not firewood forever on 5 acres even with top conditions. Maybe if you started with huge trees and could cut into them slowly or something. Fuel is a big fucking deal doing this off the grid stuff. Fuel and power is TOUGH. Hot water is TOUGH. In the winter a shower is a fucking luxuary. wife and I share a 10 gallon water heater full of lukewarm water in the winter… OR we make coffee on the coffee maker in the morning instead of on the wood stove… good times. You are all so fuckign soft. That is why things are so fucked up. Not kidding. Go shit in a flooded outhouse and when the filthy shit stained water splashes on your ass… and you dont have the power to run the water heater in the winter … well, you harden up a bit. Then you shove some sticks in that motherfucker so it doesn't splash.

I am trying to dispell the larp tag with some details are real experiences. Had you done this type off stuff you would be laughing and know that I am right. Who the fuck would larp about a flooded hand dug outhouse in a flood plain? really? I couldn't make this shit up.

Owls did eat my fucking rabbits. right after making a big new pen for them and boom… 2 are gone… I spend the day looking for the hole in the new pen… find nothing. next day boom more gone. I just gave up and let him have them. Fuck'em if they won't even try to hide at night.

If you think I am fake thats fine. Instead go TRY IT. Its not beyond the scope of most people here. Hell get some friends and divide the costs. Go really cheap on a remote acre or something and see if you can do it. Its good for ya. Ok, its a nice day. im going outside.

Jace Sullivan
Jace Sullivan

Owls did eat my fucking rabbits. right after making a big new pen for them and boom… 2 are gone… I spend the day looking for the hole in the new pen… find nothing. next day boom more gone. I just gave up and let him have them. Fuck'em if they won't even try to hide at night.
you need a mound of dirt with a log on top so they can dig a den
if you and try and dig a den for them they will act like tards and get eaten by owls

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

tax problem
In what way other than the tax itself ?

Aaron Morris
Aaron Morris

<shit in a flooded outhouse
shiting into water
not into human-sized litterbox
Why lib.

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

uhh what will you do if a boulder rolls in front of it nothing you will be trapped and dead.

Carter Young
Carter Young

Thanks. This is helpful. I do group my hive together in one beeyard. My grandfather didn't.
Then again, I work 60 hours/week. I have two different strains… but I really think the key may be to kick the farmer off and plant crimson clover, for instance.

If I can just convince the Ag Extension that this still keeps the land in current use. The system is kind of Jewed… in that you have to show a certain amount of profit.

Still intrigued. I just want to be left alone by ZOG and still profit. Which is nearly impossible.

Jack Allen
Jack Allen

Ctrl+F "Palladio", 0 results.
Oh well, at least got Vitruvius in there.

Christian Anderson
Christian Anderson

I said 5 ac for normal people. You can't see your neighbors, can garden, do livestock, shoot guns. I'm trying to help the normies.

It's way better than confined urban life and you can sell it for a profit 9/10 times.

I bought a huge chunk of land, the seller was under duress. Without infinite money or 4 generations of experience, it's been a tough road.

I'm not 1000% convinced you're larping. Owls ate all my guinea hens, too. My wife really did side with the owl.
So I switched to chickens and their run is completely screened in, now. Owls attack at night, so I learned to protect them. I thought fencing in the sides would work but the owl plucked them from the top. All solar… ventilation and a gate that closes the coop door automatically at night. Haven't lost a chicken in 5 years to a predator.

Keep spreading the truth. My questions aren't D&C or sliding… I'm being serious. Like I said, you offer sound advice. I'm just not as lucky as you, I guess. 9 years and counting. Doing well, but still a wage-slave.

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

Are you implying that rabbits can act as not tards? I thought they were the niggers of non-primate mammals.

Thomas Walker
Thomas Walker

FOR ALL THE ANONS IN THE TRADES

You know how bad the quality of work has gotten with all the spics. There is opportunity here. Focus on learning as much as you can about your trade and master it. If your foreman or superintendent is old, pick their brains as much as you can. The quality of work was different in the 70s and 80s. They were craftsmen. If you serve them loyally and don't bitch out when they yell at you, you will earn their respect and they will promote you fast.

I started my drywall career picking up scrap. I was always on time and I worked hard. They promoted me to assisting the hangers in less than 2 months. In less than 3 months, I was one of the crew members. 3 months later I was leader of my own group of 3. It will be a year this August when I started drywall and my company wants me to shadow the foreman. I'll do it but I also want to learn how to sand and mud drywall. This part is dirty as shit but I want to master this trade. When work starts to slow down again during the winter, I'd like to pick up painting and master that. One day I will own a drywall installation and painting business.

My advice to anons who want to be promoted fast:
-Be on time and professional. You can have fun but remember to be working while having it. Don't show up hungover or high. If you have a bad attitude then use it to make you work harder!
-Your image is everything. I don't have tattoos, my hair is neat, I speak English like a White man and I dress professionally with a polo tucked into my jeans with a belt. People mistake me for the foreman sometimes.
-Work hard. I jog around the room moving a sheet of drywall. I come early and I make sure my area is clean before we leave. My foreman knows to give me overtime whenever there is any. The other guys complain about having to work overtime and pass on it sometimes but the times they want it, they can't get it. Too bad niggers. More money for me.
-Learn everyday. I watch youtube videos on drywall installation so see if I can learn little tips and tricks. I also pick my foreman's brain. I even helped the caulkers put fire caulking on fire walls a few times. It's boring and tedious but I understand the trade more.

If you faggots take your job seriously, you will be promoted before the old fucks and spics. Save up money and start your own company. I sometimes patch up walls for slum lords and home owners on the weekends when there is no overtime. Cash money baby, I'm not subsidizing no niggers.

Anyone else living the dream in the trades?

Kayden Jackson
Kayden Jackson

Marcus Vitruvius Pollio's 'De architectura'
Andrea Palladio' 'I quattro libri dell'architettura'
Don't forget Sextus Julius Frontinus' 'De aquaeductu'
And since you go middle ages why not go modern with:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Cesare_Colombo
who made stuff that goes in house.

Jaxon Gomez
Jaxon Gomez

Again, this may vary state-by-state. If you own more than 11 acres in my state, and it's not zoned as agricultural… they tax you like you're going to build a subdivision.

You have to do your research. People who own a lot of land near a major city are getting taxed like its all a homesite. 10's of thousands/ year. I pay $900 on 150 ac. The 5 acres (my house sits on) are billed at over 2K.

Good question. Again, it's all Jew-avoidance at this point. I don't want any anons to buy 20 acres near a city and pay 20K in taxes their first year.

Carson Nelson
Carson Nelson

moon wood
Holy fuck you are retarded dude.
The building is … how do I say this… EXCELLENT
got me 310 sq feet of warm-in-winter
I have to fall, saw and split 4 cords of firewood to stay warm each winter
That means it is complete and total shit. My house is 1600 sq feet and I go through 1 and a half to 2 cords a year. And I live in Canada, where there's actual winter.
Tobermory
way the fuck up north
Well, which is it?
still have 30% losses.
Stop using foundation. Better yet, stop using all the stupid shit modern (((beekeeping))) promotes and follow Warre's method. And stop feeding the troll, he posts his queer roleplay fantasy in these threads all the time, just ignore him.

Alexander Richardson
Alexander Richardson

Oh shit. In my state they tax all land the same (~1% of the "value"). You can set the value tho. But they don't use the monies for public lands and instead give it all to marxist schools full of mexicans. Then they charge monies to acces your public lands. Fuck jews btw.

Isaiah Turner
Isaiah Turner

You will not firewood forever on 5 acres even with top conditions.
Pollock, nigger.
If you have water, grow apples and pears.
They grow what's called water shoots every year, and those can be collected for fuel.
The main issue is that this takes a ton of phosphorus out of the soil, but that can be replenished by spreading the ashes back into the orchard.

Parker Gonzalez
Parker Gonzalez

drywall career
Don't die of white lung, user. I love you.
Wear a pink colored respirator plz.
wikipedia.org/wiki/White_lung

Gavin Thomas
Gavin Thomas

I forgot to add that hazelnut is another good choice, but it's prone to disease.

Gabriel Carter
Gabriel Carter

Nice post. Same for me, kind of. For over a decade. Then I went into 3rd party MEP certification. Everyone I know who isn't a tard makes 100K in the trades. Honestly don't know why white men aren't still carving out a niche in this huge industry. I hate to be judgmental… but it's really about effort vs. phonefagging on the job. I know so many 20yo guys who got fired for hiding in the porta-jon (texting).
Sad.
People will always pay dearly for a quality product, but you'll be dealing with rich douchebags. If you're high IQ this will mean nothing to you. If you're <85 IQ - you will lose money building HUD homes. Cheap is shit.

If you get gud, can build a website, market yourself, etc… holy shit… custom trade work? You'll never run out of work. If you're the based old-world brick mason in the video posted earlier… or the moon wood guy… you'll make a fortune.
I paid a WHITE MASTER $900 for 20 sq. ft. of kitchen backsplash. I don't do tile. Well… not 1cm art glass with the kraft paper on the front. After picking his brain, I think I could do it next time, tho.
I do 90% of my own work… but even I'll pay for perfection. Depending on the time line and the learning curve.

Jackson Barnes
Jackson Barnes

OK. I'll look into Warre's method. My USDA inspector said 100% of US hives suffer from Varroa Mites, though (Feb. 2019). That seems to be the primary issue. I think selective breeding for mites will do the trick inside 10 years, based on what I've read.

Carter Cook
Carter Cook

Quick same-fag. It took me 2 years to find a guy to do the tile. Zero Mexicans could comprehend it. So $900 was a bargain… I met him doing an inspection. It's fucking beautiful.

A nerdy white guy with attention to detail can become a living god. I probably shouldn't be this honest. A lot of people get upset when it's framed like this. It's the truth, though.

Nicholas Scott
Nicholas Scott

Are you saying I should use slipform stone masonry?

Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

They still have mites, but it stops being a problem. You can go with small cell foundation if you really want to stick with foundation, but I like to go as natural as I can. Most foundation is printed with cells that are too big. The bees adapt to this by growing bigger. But that takes longer. The longer until the cell is capped, the more likely a mite is to get in there. And the longer they are in the cell, the more likely they are to die from the mites.

bushfarms.com/beesnaturalcell.htm

That website has a ton of good info on more natural beekeeping. And you can download an English translation of Warre's book here: warre.biobees.com/methods.htm

Brody Johnson
Brody Johnson

Safety is important! I do wear a regular white mask when there isn't a lot of air circulation but I'll do research on that pink mask. I know there are different levels of dust for masks but I admit I just grabbed whatever seemed standard.
I love you too bb <3

it's really about effort vs. phonefagging on the job
People will always pay dearly for a quality product
A nerdy white guy with attention to detail can become a living god
Truth.

ALL YOU FAT NEET FAGGOTS NEED TO BUY SOME STEEL TOES Georgia boot wedge ones are the best AND GET TO WORK. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE EARNING A PAYCHECK AND SEEING HOW MUCH GOOD WORK YOU ACCOMPLISHED IN A DAY
You also get to socialize. The other two people in my crew is a 20 year old White kid who I am slowly red pilling and the other is a mestizo who is pretty based not going to lie. Of course he has to go back but while he's here he can help me do good work and tell me what the other spics are saying in Spanish.

Gabriel Wright
Gabriel Wright

I kind of like the first one, somewhat at least.

<<3c9da4
I live in an earthbag house I build illegally in Western Oregon.
I brew up some of it into mead which I (sell/trade in minecraft cough cough) along with a small pot still for … (Distilling "water "in minecraft).
Glad to see other anons suspicious of this guy. I suggest any anons looking to build their own house look up not just good building techniques, but what is legal and to follow the law. Don't break the law, that's for niggers.

Benjamin Peterson
Benjamin Peterson

youtube.com/results?search_query=Build a cellar

I'm trying to figure out how to build a simple cellar to store food in and take shelter in if need be.

How to do it?

Ethan Allen
Ethan Allen

Owning structures on the land = paying for non Whites to take over your country with property tax.

Just own property and technically RVs. Building things to fit the definition of an RV doesn't mean you have to build it shitty, can build it better than regular home construction, but stick to the RV define so you do pay for the spics and nogs with the big structure tax, only handing over a pittance for the land.

Dominic Garcia
Dominic Garcia

s/do/don't/

Camden Robinson
Camden Robinson

I have never heard this shit but damn… Thats cool. I have some semi-wild apples around and tried to grow some cider strains but they died because the fucking gophers murdered them. Pocket gophers are literal jews… underground JEWS… Im not kidding. I even tried to gas them and they didnt die.

Thats 2 cabins a bathhouse and a kitchen all separate buildings… September until May. I usually dont finish the full 4 but that is the size of my woodshed and I never emptied it.

2 cords a year in Canada for 1600 sq feet… Whats that gas/electric bill look like? 8 months a year fires off of 2 cords. you know that is only 3-4 sticks of wood per day right? or less? 2 cords is an 8x8x4 pile split and stacked. Pretty slim! I bet you got some cool looking sweaters up there in the great white north.

Lets see what we get here…

"Assuming your five room house is around 2000 square feet, you’d probably need something like six cords of wood. Again, it’s better to overestimate than underestimate.
Overall, you’ll need multiple cords of firewood to make it through an entire winter. You might need ten cords or more, or you might only need a few.

-timberworksva.com/how-much-firewood-do-i-need-winter

Dat Glow-bull Warming! Canada is now like Florida!

Naw, you are right 5ac of good treed land very well managed will last more or less a lifetime without too much suppliments. I am sloppy in many ways. I respect your skepticism… I want to prove it up since I like this thread so I am going to see if I can get a unique funny picture that NO ONE can possibly fake that will prove up some stuff without outing me. Keep an eye out here and I will try to deliver if I get it.

Fucking guinea hens. My mom had those goddammed things when I was a kid. She went to visit her dad and me and my dad caught them and ate them before she came home. We acted shocked when she came back. The coyotes must have gottem them… so sad…

We visit a hive maybe 3 times a year… Spring… Go raid them so they won't swarm. leave like half a super of honey. high summer. Take all the frames minus 2-3. Thats the big harvest. September, take all the frames in the top super and leave the entire bottom super slam-full. never bother them again. Weeds grow all over their shit. tree branches fall on them. I never spray anything ever. I never plant anything for them. They work for me. I leave them alone they work and I get their honey but leave them enough so they can work again. I keep them spaced like hundreds of feet minimum. Those fuckers with the monoculture field, the spray and the grouped hives that they move all over the country are what is making bees go extinct. Hell I have wild bees in rotten hollow trees that I find. :/ leave them alone.

William Perry
William Perry

1) What is the estimated cost of building a house in USD? Materials and labor included? What is the estimated time to complete a small house?

2) Is building a house an endeavor that can be realistically completed by a single family without extensive professional aid?

3) Would you be willing to provide online lectures for this content? I'd be willing to pay a small fee for the opportunity to learn more.

4) How long would you suspect it to take a person to go from zero-knowledge to capable of building a house?

5) What is your opinion on AirCrete and Rammed Earth?

6) Do you think that Japan's ongoing akiya-housing crisis could provide ample opportunity to construct houses in Japan?

Adam James
Adam James

I have never heard this shit but damn
16 apple or pear trees planted in full sun can give over a yard of faggot wood every year or two depending on water. If you keep the trees under 6' it's ezpz.
Embed is a fag because he didn't keep his tree short.
Apparently I'm a giant faggot that forgot what the technique is called.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coppicing
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollarding
The idea is you take a natural bush shaped tree that has a "medium" growth rate, and keep it from forming a leader.
Fruit trees tend to work well, as do nuts and maple.
Cherries and hazelnut work extremely well for this.

Mason Lopez
Mason Lopez

of all places, croat brick merchant shows up on 8pol

Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

Just build a rocket stove, this will cut your wood burning use by 2/3's.

Aiden Phillips
Aiden Phillips

Rocket stove, I built 3 of those now. all to heat water. all out of cob. They heat water pretty well in winter but I just got sick of taking hours to make them work. Then it froze and busted the pipe on a really cold night because it had a tiny bend in it and held a bit of water in the copper tube and cracked it. No way to get it out and I gave up. Too much trouble and asspain. I just pussied out and got a little 110v water heater and that works way better.

chelseagreen.com/2019/epic-saga-american-chestnut/

Coppicing! yeah I know what that is! My trees do quite a bit of that actually. Many will re-shoot from the roots after I cut them. It takes about 5 years until they are wrist thick though. I want to get some of these American Chestnuts going which will coppice like crazy without any troubles with rot. Sadly they are nearly extinct from that blight but I guess the damage is minimal in my area so it may be possible if I can get them going. Anyway its an interesting read and if you are on the west coast it may be something to try for yourself. Also there are differing groups making back-crossed varietials and GMO ones that are blight resistant.

Anyway This has been a fun thread and I hope you all go out there and do this shit. Its hard, its expensive to get the land but once you do it it will change your life for the better and will make you look at the world in a different way. Its worth it if you are truly sick of the world and its bullshit. People will hate you though. I lost all my friends and family over this place as people hated what I built and shit all over me for various things. How I just stay user because I don't want the RL drama anymore. Go somewhere and get some land if you can . Build a small building on it and see if you can live a month there. Then take a break and try for a whole summer, then take a break and try for a whole year. You will be hooked after a few months and will forget all about all the bullshit you left behind. The houses and paved streets and useless robot people will disgust you after a season. Its like Fight Club… The scene where the guy is in work and his boss accosts him about having blood on his shirt. He says fighting makes all the worlds problems fade away to where you can barely hear them… Thats exactly what this will do for your. It will make all the bullshit you used to care about fade away and you will care more about the state of your chicken coop and water tank than the state of your lawn or how clean your car is. … People will think you lost your mind and its funny as fuck. I highly recommend it. Get a woman on lockdown if you can and if not then bring girls out to your cabin and tell them all about it. Bitches love rabbits and baby chicks. Any woman who will suffer an outhouse to play with baby chicks and rabbits is a keeper. ha ha . Good luck and dont get hurt.

Jonathan Thompson
Jonathan Thompson

Get a reusable or halfmask and the appropriate cartridges/filters. Since your breathing gypsum you just need a simple organic (black) or combo organic (pink) cartridge/filter. Also good if you have to escape a forest fire.
3m.com/3M/en_US/safety-centers-of-expertise-us/respiratory-protection/respirator-selection/
multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/639110O/3m-respirator-selection-guide.pdf?fn=Respirator Selection Guide Final

Joshua Young
Joshua Young

This is an interesting topic, thanks OP.

Hudson Gomez
Hudson Gomez

also, guys, OSB shit should be banned or mocked into obsolence.
Its just a shitty material that dissolves when getting wet (unlike wood which gluecompound like OSB isnt), noone tells you about major offgassing this chink crap produces, compare that to almost a 1000yo stave churches.

Trick is in cutting lumber according to moon phases and using old growth obviously with joinery and not nails without any stupid plastic wraps or aditional insulation to allow wood to self dry

kudos bro!

timber framing

I hope we didnt have a misunderstanding about timber frame, that can be excellent if done by mortisse tenon and big lumber not mcmansion style timbe frame

drywall

you have good advice about milkin knowledge but drywall is just meh shortlasting technology.

mcconstructor detected

what is the OSB type? I want to build a stave church of best quality OSB

brick merchant

I was here some time before

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Gavin Watson
Gavin Watson

1) hard to say, depends on legality etc
2) yes! however thread lightly, regardless if diy having knowledge can help you buy used qualtiy used or new, but if you diy it, TAKE TIME, account for at least a year or two to not rush it
3) contact me on housepill et protonmail com if you have other questions that arent answere in the thread
4) not much if you have the feel for it highly depends on the project
5) RC frame with red brick is a superior option to aircrete imo since materials are less toxic, about rammed earth Im also not sure about its longterm durability, I like to stick to tested methods. going full hippie is often risky
6) not familiar

Michael Edwards
Michael Edwards

That pic.
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Lincoln Wood
Lincoln Wood

compared this timelapse to the previous from latvia boys Ive linked. Both have a pretty high quality timber frame but rest is very different.

notice how much more gimmicky this one is and how much more expensive prefab materials and heavy machinerry (also very expensive to rent) is needed for inferior results. While I admire the effort of these 2 this is a great example of over-design which is the MO of technology these days.

Jordan Martin
Jordan Martin

WTF? Who the fuck builds a house out of particle board.

Ayden Johnson
Ayden Johnson

Oh, now see, THAT is an OP. I may have to torture myself properly with this thread. Crap it up, gulls; you know my name.

Grayson Sanchez
Grayson Sanchez

OSB
It also degrades house wrap because of the glue and acidic wood.
It's garbage in anything other than pallet corner blocks.

It's obscene how shit the modern house is.
The shitty vinyl siding melts in the summer, the OSB disintegrates when it gets wet, the house wrap is broken down by the OSB and cannot wick water which collects on its surface, and the fiber glass insulation retains moisture. And then there's no overhang.

Blake Myers
Blake Myers

Hat and Boots is back
mfw
That reminds me, there should be a little obscure symbol for white tradesmen so people can identify them. Fags have one, kikes have hundreds, there should be one for people looking for a man willing to do good honest work for white families.

P.S. If you ever see one of those equal symbols on the back of a car, then that means you should write down their license plate number so you can follow them home and torch their house in minecraft

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Gabriel Moore
Gabriel Moore

WTF? Who the fuck builds a house out of particle board.

you mean OSB? Technically speaking OSB is particle board and yes, they do build houses from OSB, like 90% of new houses, they even make 4 floors with that crap, Imagine how much of offgassing you have with it even without cancerSprayFoamTM insulation and TyvekCondomWrapTM

It's obscene how shit the modern house is.
The shitty vinyl siding melts in the summer, the OSB disintegrates when it gets wet, the house wrap is broken down by the OSB and cannot wick water which collects on its surface, and the fiber glass insulation retains moisture. And then there's no overhang.

it really is surreal, almost as if someone design it to be the most toxic to people living in it and to desintegrate as quickly as it can

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Wyatt White
Wyatt White

it really is surreal, almost as if someone design it to be the most toxic to people living in it and to desintegrate as quickly as it can
I see new apartments spring up every year that are built like commiefornia houses and it's all the same shit.
Of course it's also the fault of the city planners, but there's such a pervasive fear of earthquakes that no one builds brick buildings or anything taller than two stories in my region despite the being numerous 100 year old brick buildings three stories tall.

Elijah Lewis
Elijah Lewis

build "house" out of particle board using wetback labor for $10k in some location where real estate prices are artificially inflated i.e. pretty much anywhere in california
insure house for $500k
"house" is 90% complete before an (((accidental))) fire occurs from one of the spics leaving something plugged in or whatever and the builders get $500k cash from the insurance company
insurance inspector is in on the scam so he'll fuck with the paperwork and will get a cut of the payout
rinse and repeat
now you know why home insurance costs so much

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

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Lincoln Harris
Lincoln Harris

Oriented Strand Board
~7% glue
No surface strength
Made with scrap wood shards
Swells more when wet
Weighs more
Costs less

Plywood
~2% glue
Surface strength
Made with peeled trees
Swells less when wet
Weighs less
Costs more

Colton Bell
Colton Bell

timber frame VS Reinforced concrete + red brick (RC) frame

another thing you guys should capitalize on…(proper) timber frame is a great method to make a house with but since quality wood and high skilled woodworkers are hard to find you might find use in doing houses with RC frame which is standard in continental Europe and way less labour intensive than timber frame.

These type of houses rarely have any problems, they arent a head turner like a Swiss challet but are meat and potatoes type of build. Ill post a timelapse

pic rel - the yellow stuff on walls in external rock wool being put on

fear of earthquakes

total red herring isnt it? if they really want to stop they would use RC beams or (proper) timber frame not the mcmansion framing method

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Robert Ortiz
Robert Ortiz

timber frame VS Reinforced concrete + red brick (RC) frame

here is the timelapse of a Reinforced concrete + red brick house, it does require more special skills like all concrete builds but notice how much less human labour and heavy lifting you need and in the end you get a very reliable house

John Parker
John Parker

You funny, I was thinking of something like a "I Donated to the Isidore Weiss Memorial Fund" bumper sticker or something. Maybe just a simple eight of diamonds card placed in the rear window. The card is easy to remove just in case some kike bureaucrat comes along.

Jordan Mitchell
Jordan Mitchell

rock wool
Is incredible, however it might have long term health risks similar to asbestos.
I've done informal water tests, and it does in fact wick water, which means that if it does get soaking wet it will dry out if you take care of the water source.
It takes a few days but it eventually dries.
total red herring isnt it?
Yup. The region has earthquake building codes which are generally more shit than anything.

Jayden Wood
Jayden Wood

Look up "The Owner-Builder's Guide to Stone Masonry" on LibGen. I took the trouble to scan and upload it to save you youngsters the indignity of a "tiny house".

Start building your wall off a foundation or underground 1/4 the height of your finished wall.

Pick your stones by hand and make sure they are at least somewhat square. Round or wedge-shaped ones will pop out of the wall under pressure. You can use mortar or cement as long as it's softer than the stone you're using. But the wall should stand on its own without mortar - that's just for sealing cracks. If your wall is in contact with the earth, you cannot use mortar or groundwater pressure will build up and topple it.

Insulation goes inside the exterior wall and is covered with sheetrock, wood, or another layer of brick or stone. If you live in the Everglades you may need a vapor barrier. But most condensation is due to sloppy walls with cracks that let in exterior air.

Chase Harris
Chase Harris

there should be a little obscure symbol for white tradesmen so people can identify them

That would be the "My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter" bumper sticker

Ayden Wilson
Ayden Wilson

Is incredible, however it might have long term health risks similar to asbestos.

definetly, rock wool already should be treated carefully when cuting it not to get in the lungs who knows what will we discover regarding its health effects in the future - apperently its insulative properties are lower than spray foam but its much more safer than foam. It definetly has its risks like all insulation, but if you have to use insulation, use rock wool. Regarding drying of rock wool, ventilated facedes with external rock wool have become a thing, together with maxcompact panels that are the outer shell , I absolutly hate the look of them, again its a shortlasting system

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Juan Barnes
Juan Barnes

What books/PDFs do you most reccommend for someone like me who has zero background or knowledge in construction? I need some good begginers reading for familiarization.

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Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

Good thread OP.

All the oldest and strongest buildings in my country are made with massive blocks of granite or limestone, then panelled with wood on the inside for insulation. These are all 150+ years old, built at the height of the British empire. What do you think of the possibility of self-building using just huge blocks of stone?

Would be time consuming but since they're large, you have less to cut. Weather just cannot penetrate or shift it. Maybe you have to be in a 100% earthquake free location though.

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Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

I'd say its possible but ludicrously expensive. Also good luck finding builders who can do it.
Also if its done properly you won't have to worry much about earthquakes unless they're extremely bad.

Luke Jones
Luke Jones

What books/PDFs do you most reccommend for someone like me who has zero background or knowledge in construction?

Its pretty fragmented all around so I cant recommend a book but there are plenty good diy channels you can learn from, most of quality information is censored as much as race differences in sociology and all mainstream construction has major shilling in it.

Look up these
-Mike Haduck masonry -10/10 channel
-Peter Ward - british restaurator that exposed modern construction stupidity
-Fred Dibnah "Building of Brittain" watch the hole series

All the oldest and strongest buildings in my country are made with massive blocks of granite or limestone, then panelled with wood on the inside for insulation.

brillinat! Ive always wondered when watching British shows with scenes that were filmes inside those big rock buildings, why was the interior wooden? Those wooden interiors are high quality as well - price for them was also sky high I assume.
what I always found interesting, how doesnt the wooden lining swell in those big buildingns (water might travel from outside rock gaps)? How about casual citizen stone buildings, Ive seen that most dont have inner wood lining? are they cold? In Dalmation enitre rock buildings are god tier but its a very different climate.

Jace Miller
Jace Miller

ludicrously expensive

Almost every building in this country is built that way. There's thousands in every town, so I'd imagine it would be pretty easy to find reclaimed stone. I've seen some old plots for sale that have massive piles of them left over from demolition.

good luck finding builders who can do it

It's a lot easier than building with brick. I can do it myself.

Aaron King
Aaron King

If it goes bad just burn it down and do-over better.

Are you too much of a stupid nigger to do a little math before you spend time, money, and materials? Its not that hard and if you can't do it, I'm sure you can find a friend to do it for you. With the internet and public libraries, there's no excuse not to make sure the physics checks out on your structure before building. Rot and freeze/thaw can be serious safety, insulation, and structural integrity issues.

Levi Collins
Levi Collins

why was the interior wooden?
Just for insulation and something to paint. A lot of residential/lower tier ones have simple plasterboard linings on studs. I guess in the past they would have just been stone and plaster and been pretty cold, but they had fireplaces in every room that were on almost 24/7. For the same reason, most of the old castles don't have timber linings apart from in their great halls. But nice rich buildings like the Caledonian and posher houses, from 1750-1900 or so, use panelling.

how doesn't the wooden lining swell
I honestly don't know, but they do use mortar. Because of the weight, the gap is tiny, maybe literally 1mm or 2mm at most. With a foot thick wall and overhangs, it probably doesn't get too moist inside.

Maybe the wood does swell and it just doesn't matter because the stone is so massive it doesn't move it. Or the stone is so breathable the wood never gets very moist.

Nicholas Watson
Nicholas Watson

I love threads like this. Keep it up!

I also just wanted to dump a vid about how efficient such a simple thing as wood stoves can become if you plan your building tech accordingly.
Up to one tenth of wood used compared to usual stoves.. Rocket stoves!
Basically they're insulated burn chambers to reach temperatures burning the smoke particles and gasses combined with a massive intake thus the rocketry sound it gives. In effect it gives one gasifying burn and further down the heat riser it burns the gas, giving an almost complete burn and temperatures that can melt steel.. Use fire bricks!

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Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

forgot link duh

Oliver Ward
Oliver Ward

Stop using foundation. Better yet, stop using all the stupid shit modern (((beekeeping))) promotes and follow Warre's method. And stop feeding the troll, he posts his queer roleplay fantasy in these threads all the time, just ignore him.

Oliver Nelson
Oliver Nelson

rock wool

another alternative to that shitty plastic might be mud mixed with straw as an additional external layer, Im pretty sure it would perform better in summer as a cooler and in winter it would perform at least as good as rock wool.

someone like me who has zero background or knowledge in construction

another tip, watch old stuff and look how they age, that way youll see just how much forward thinking the desing was. Watch how they accounted for water damage and how easy is to repair the signs of wear. This video by Haduck is ABC of forward thinking

Watch restoration videos since time is the best test of quality and non-quality cant be restored (because they didnt plan on it).

I honestly don't know

they probably had a secret. Its quite a task to do vertical layering in a very moist climate and not create moisture problem between the loading wall and lining wall and that it stays in good condition for 300 years…do you know is there a gap between or had they uses special kind of wood? Anyway that is a fascinating way of building if you find out please inform me.

Landon Walker
Landon Walker

Almost every building in your country was built that way when it was common to do so. You'll find fucktons of buildings like that throughout the UK, whole villages and towns even.
But barely anyone does it anymore due to costs.

What this means is that those costs are now much higher.
Getting the stuff quarried and shipped to you is gonna be a nightmare because it will all need to be done specifically for you. Theres no real infrastructure or existing supply chains to absorb some of that cost.

Course I don't know what country you're in. So maybe that infrastructure exists there. But I doubt it. Brick infrastructure at best.

Now as for lots with old stone on them. Yeah you can use that but it'll never be enough. You think it's like a jigsaw for a house but it ain't. Bits will have been thrown in a skip and you won't know exactly what the original house looked like plus key structural stones have been broken up.
Which brings us to another issue. Doing this properly isn't as easy as laying blocks on top of each other. You need to do it properly to keep the load properly balanced and ensure proper compression force distribution. It's not a game for amateurs.
That lets us segue into the next major problem. There are not many people with the skills to properly do this. At any level. From the gruntwork to the coordination/planning. I've heard of one construction crew in the UK who do it on the regular but they're booked years in advance.

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Cooper Robinson
Cooper Robinson

Pros and cons of geodesic dome homes?

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Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

Many cons.
They tend to have serious damp problems and they run afoul of legal requirements in a number of nations where building standards just aren't designed to accomodate them.
Also expensive to make.

It's the damp that is the main issue though. Since you will typically use wood for the frame the weird way the damp and air stratify will start to degrade the upper part of the dome pretty quickly. Now proper venting at the top of the dome can fix that, one design slaps a cupola on the top of the dome and that supposedly fixes it.

The second worst problem is materials. You have to use plastics. Lots of them and leave them exposed to direct sunlight and rain. We all know why this is bad.
Finally divvyin up the space inside them is a bit messy. Never really works out as intended.

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Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

Many cons.

all the mentioned cons are correct, exept that you have to use plastic, you can do a domehouse from RC, but I still wouldnt recomend it since its a high risk high reward build, if you are doing house for yourself you should go with safer, more tested option… and they just look whack.

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David Wilson
David Wilson

2 cords a year in Canada for 1600 sq feet… Whats that gas/electric bill look like?
They don't look like, you can't get power or phone out here much less natural gas.
8 months a year fires off of 2 cords
A little over 2 months. I don't start bringing wood in until January, this is the point of thermal mass. The south wall is all windows, so it is warm again by march without any extra heating.
Assuming your five room house is around 2000 square feet, you’d probably need something like six cords of wood
That is an estimate for modern shit houses dumbass.
mcconstructor detected
Why do you get stupider every time you start this thread OP?
what is the OSB type?
No. It is a stone floor, timber frame with hempcrete fill and tile roof. Don't insulate under the floor, insulate around the walls. All that dirt under your house is free thermal mass. There's no excuse for a tiny shack to burn that much wood, that's 100 million BTUs. He's either got the worst shack in history or he is getting 10-20% efficiency from his wood.
white people
promoting the kike lie that Jesus was a yid
Kill yourself.

Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

The aesthetics are butchered because architecture schools teach young architects that it is part and parcel of their proffession to use only the most modern and "high quality" materials. Which is why almost every major city in the world has buildings that look the same, the advent of cheap steel, cheap glass and cheap plastics has caused a complete abandonment of "old" materials, in favour of arbitrarily defined modern ones.

Angel Rivera
Angel Rivera

Yeah you got to use professionals if you go for concrete.
That being said a properly done RC dome can be a great option in an area that suffers frequent tornadoes and hurricanes.
I've seen one RC dome quite happily sit through a direct tornado strike multiple times.

Parker Kelly
Parker Kelly

Why do you get stupider every time you start this thread OP?

hi to you as well, I would like to hear your opinion on OSB and spray foam first before continuing.

I've seen one RC dome quite happily sit through a direct tornado strike multiple times.

they are basically a bunker that could survive shells being fired at them as well, but they just dont feel right, they dont feel "homely" + horrible interiors + leakage risk

Austin Reed
Austin Reed

I would like to hear your opinion on eating lead paint first before continuing.

Juan Barnes
Juan Barnes

The interiors can be made quite nice. They're just not something people are used to though.

Jacob Ramirez
Jacob Ramirez

you're an idiot asshole tranny
the guy stored his excess labor as monetary wealth. he converted his wealth into a real estate investment and is getting returns on that investment.
should he have donated his money to the international workers? if he bought and sold gold wouldn't he be jewing the buyer at a higher price? If he bought and sold weed or stocks or bags of corn or Sega cartridges wouldn't he just be jewing the next guy?
There is nothing wrong with being a landlord and hearing the lamentations of the too-stupid-to-suceed tenants is just a bonus
Signed,
A Landlord and a Renter

Liam Reed
Liam Reed

See that argument would hold water if your housing stock didn't wind up in the hands of your offspring who will never contribute to humanity and instead be rentseekers their whole lives.

Ryder Ward
Ryder Ward

I would like to hear your opinion on eating lead paint first before continuing.

Lead is bad for your health as is using OSB and sprayfoam, can your mccontractor ass say the same?

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Oliver Miller
Oliver Miller

Oh man that yankee doodle housewrap shit.
I've started seeing it being applied permanently in the UK in new builds.
Used to be the stuff was temporary and only used during construction to keep the rain off stuff.
But now they're following american ideas and leaving it on there.

Landon Russell
Landon Russell

just archiving this thread again.
archive.fo/kWs8x

William Watson
William Watson

yankee doodle housewrap shit

ayy lmao, the condom wrap, Tyvek2000, Ive never seen in here but I have no doubts it will creep in.
I have seen it on roofs, probably a different type, but is there really a need for it on roofs, what have the old timers used? Ive seen some old roofs and its just tile on wood beams and it doesnt leak, so what is with those stupid wraps these days?

Some even put that wrap in concrete, what is that supposed to do? it will just dissolve with time within concrete roofs

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Dominic Bell
Dominic Bell

No overhangs and very small slope on roof. If water pools anywhere, it will eventually get in. The bigger the roof slope, the better.

Jason Williams
Jason Williams

They think it keeps out moisture.
Which to be fair it does. But it also keeps it in which is where the problems emerge.
If its damaged thats even worse because then you have moisture getting in but not getting out.

Old roofs just accept they'll get damp and rely on airing out the moisture.

Jeremiah Lewis
Jeremiah Lewis

there's nothing wrong with being a kike
Nice try rabbi.
states the point verbatim
still doesn't get it
Seriously, have you been smoking crack since the last time you made this thread? You seem to be completely retarded now, calling stone and timber frame "mccontractor" and spouting "OSB OSB OSB" because you can't explain how timber framing is bad.

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

They think it keeps out moisture.
Which to be fair it does.

it does in the shortterm but not in the longterm where it causes problem, people these days mix those 2 requirement, RC is strongest possible material shortterm but not longterm where stonemasonry is far more durable.
if I was building a bunker for a year the wrap would suffice but not as a permanent household.

Henry Williams
Henry Williams

Like I said. The problem is always longterm where it keeps moisture in. Which leads to damp which leads to all the many joys of damp

Sebastian Lee
Sebastian Lee

Fuck off, kike drone. Contribute alternatives, provide proofs for your assertions, or fuck off.

Anthony Hall
Anthony Hall

let him be, he is probably involved in that scamming industry, I think its the same retard from Florida that was in the last thread I opened

Liam Torres
Liam Torres

We should bring back monowall

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Nathan Stewart
Nathan Stewart

Zig Forums - architecture

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

Adobe/straw walls seem to perform pretty good and Im a big fan of Tudor builds, but even if they werent that good of an insulator, I wouldnt complain about having to wear a sweater indoors in winter.

Have you noticed how today people arent happy with thermal properties if they cant be in a t shirt during winter? so many housing problems would be solved if we just tought people to wear sweaters inside in winter…

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Joseph Diaz
Joseph Diaz

Good thread

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Christopher Ward
Christopher Ward

So many WHITE SUPREMACISTS here. I don't even.

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Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

Monolithic concrete domes are the master race of architecture and housing. All the lies people make up about them being dank and whatever else are just that, lies. I've been in one and looked at many over the years and read a lot about them. Properly constructed and with the interior done right you will have no issues with them.

Ian Mitchell
Ian Mitchell

i just call it all "The demoralization industry" it lumps it up all fine:

The degenerate art/Music
The degenerate race mixing movies/Tv shows
Retarded ugly demoralizing Architecture
Mass-migrating cuck politics
Total white genocide propaganda

etc etc… all serving the grand purpose of demoralization on an industrial scale. Thus demoralization industry. Or "The demoralization complex".

Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers

I like the idea of concrete roofs. Are they good?

Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

Bring Your Own Brick house kits
I could dig that.

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Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

concrete roof
good
t. Brutalist
No.
Maybe for a dirtbag hive houe but idk.
Def not for a stone or wood house.
Too heavy.
Skinning your house in crete is proly good tho.
Seems jewish tbh.

Julian Morris
Julian Morris

Not really.

Jaxson Perez
Jaxson Perez

I'm poor as fuck and just want my off-grid cabin/home/bunker to function well. I can decorate it then in all kinds of cool ways to make it beautiful. I bet I could do a concrete roof that looks as if it's shingles or something else if I just shape it right and paint and polish it.

Nicholas Taylor
Nicholas Taylor

boomer farmers
and their boomer parents
hire exclusively mexican migrants
this is white supremacy
The absolute state of the left.

Hudson Gonzalez
Hudson Gonzalez

Functionally? I don't care about aesthetics. Would the roof just not last long?

My current plan btw is to just go with a metal roof. All the abandoned structures I've explored that still have a roof, have metal roofs. All the asphalt roofs, even though they're on structures that are the same age or newer, just collapse in. Metal roofs last soooo long.

Thomas Rodriguez
Thomas Rodriguez

Monolithic concrete domes are the master race of architecture and housing.

They are good they are not mcconstruction, but thread lightly with them since they are a new design (in this age at least), I recomment a low risk high reward conservative approach if you are building for yourself.

The demoralization industry

I used the term "technological nihilism", it implies that STEM suffers from the same degradation humanities and art do, that is why I dont like when people complain exclusivly about "architecture", it goes way deeper than that. Ted was right, STEM is as cucked as well.

I like the idea of concrete roofs. Are they good?

you bet! Ive never heard of a roof change on those houses, but more expensive and require a stronger frame and foundation, which doesnt mean there is smth wrong with a wood roof, wood is just a more complex material and people often use it in a way that is self destructs by not allowing air drying of wood. Ill try finding more pics of concrete roofs

concrete roof
good

its quite good actually, lasts a long time as well, take the good throw out the bad from brutalists

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Michael Morgan
Michael Morgan

Then buy a code book and use wood. 2x4 16 on center, since "advanced framing" (2x6/24onC) is more wood and money to get more space for insulation fill and is shit tbh, and side it in reclaimed materials if you can't afford new. How are you staying warm, washing your ass, and processing turds, my dude ? That is the real question and will be where the real monies goes. And to windows but you can build your own reallllly.

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

metal roofs

good choice! if you are on a budget and have accest to stone you can just do slate tiles yourself but house has to be very strong to bear the load (and proper wood frame is strong).
Regarding roof covers its

good tier
1.slate
2.terra
3.metal
—–
dogshit tier
4.asphalt

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Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

They go one of two ways.
They either last as long as the building but are often the reason the building itself has to be demolished.
Or they collapse in on themselves.

Julian Morris
Julian Morris

technological nihilism
The problem with that is that nihilism has some quality philosophy behind it going all the way back to Nietzsche (Beyond good and Evil) and Shopenhauer (Art of Pessimism). But when you make it look like some plastic annoying shitty industrial complex, thats when it becomes really nasty. I'm sure you could call it Technonihilism yes, but Demoralization is the word Yuri Bezmenov used when exposing the commies, so I like his chain of thought on that point.

Christian Walker
Christian Walker

For the record. While a ceramic/clay shingle/shake/tile roof is fireproof from the outside, it will collapse with a fire on the inside. Metal is best, even as a tray for Norse grass roofs, and comes in shapes like Spanish and Roman cermic tiles but is less weight, costs less, can be made from recycled materials and recycled after use, and is easier install. Good for tiny houses that need less weight and may be towed through a fire during escape. If you are doing the "cementing" Gaudí style with limestone then it's probably okay., but the rest should be slate and old growth wood for authenticity.

Roofing Weights:
Metal (1.2 lbm/ft2)
Wood (2.4 lbm/ft2)
Asphalt (2.7 lbm/ft2)
Ceramic (5.8 lbm/ft2)
Concrete (9.3 lbm/ft2)
Clay (10.8 lbm/ft2)
Slate (12.8 lbm/ft2)

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

Single pour concrete, with rebar and chain link fences and higher sand content.

There's a technical term for them, but they have stood up to category 4 hurricanes. Use slate roofing and these houses should last hundreds of years easily.

Carter Rogers
Carter Rogers

For context, the typical US roof (asphalt shingles) is ~200lbs/100sqft (10'x10'). A metal roof would be a quarter to half of that, depending on the material (steel, copper, etc..) and gauge (thickness); ~50lbs/sqft.

Benjamin Cox
Benjamin Cox

They either last as long as the building but are often the reason the building itself has to be demolished.

I havent seem much problems with concrete roofs, but your point stands, its hard to replace it, they are usually overengeneered on smaller houses so they have plenty of loading…in worst case scenario, how hard would it be to replace just the concrete roof after 50 years?

While a ceramic/clay shingle/shake/tile roof is fireproof from the outside, it will collapse with a fire on the inside.

prime advantage is that it doesnt rust with time and arguably more waterproof, but metal roof is still a great choice especially when you count in the extreme differences in weight and easy instally if its a gable roof.

Zachary Martin
Zachary Martin

the alternative is like what Cody Lundin did, built a house out of a preexisting stone structure.

He runs a desert survival training camp in Arizona.

Mason Thompson
Mason Thompson

At that cost point, slate would be far better.

Ryder Wilson
Ryder Wilson

Ceramic (5.8 lbm/ft2)

I dont know much about these, they seem expensive…how much do they last compare to terra tiles?

Dominic Taylor
Dominic Taylor

Ceramic is moduluraly porous, which means in extreme cold it will fracture. Enough temperature swings and your roof will start leaking.

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

concrete roof
no rust
Only if no rebar or non-rusting rebar is used.
waterproof
And resistant to wind. Metal sheets with fasteners are strong but can leak if the gromets fail and metal shingles blow off in heavy winds but are not reliant on eals but material overlaps and leak less to not at all. I have a wood lumber roof (modern norse) with a steel metal tray with side drains and 2" walls with soil holding barley grass on my house (old norse). Took some time and custom fabrication of the trays but it fucking works and looks great. The grass will catch on fire but the roof is metal sheeted and safe with an insulated gap for temperature control so as not to ignite the lumber roof.

William Harris
William Harris

How can I learn everything you guys know about building traditional houses from the foundation up? I am willing to read a few book on construction. Have any recommendations?

Matthew Reyes
Matthew Reyes

Better yet: Start a free online course for house building, so nationalists can get true independence off the grid.

Kevin Foster
Kevin Foster

You don't replace concrete roofs.
If they fail or otherwise need replacing you replace the building.
This is why nobody really uses them outside of extremely large buildings which have a host of protective measures in place to protect the concrete roof.

Blake Richardson
Blake Richardson

It's not that easy.
Construction requires a lot of manpower, specialists and money.
To do properly that is.

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

About double, unless you hire the Amish who are incredible builders and will barter or you are given land. Building yourself one is a huge undertaking and requires ALOT of rentals.

TLDR> Its more but worth it just like anything in life. Best case is finding a nice used one (I'll be doing the same)

Hudson Hall
Hudson Hall

Start a free online course for house building
Where can I find those?

Jack Perez
Jack Perez

build houses
many men and monies
Not true.
Especially if you forego modern sheeting, then you can do everything with one person and some ratchet straps. Have a second person for roofing if you fall to take you to hospital but otherwise all can be done for cheap by a single person, especially if you are only building for one or two. Building for a family is different and will cost more because more materials.

Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson

Watch Next Step Ministries Construction videos on jewtube for an idea and good simple tutorial on a small modern building.
youtube.com/channel/UC_tXuCxjzMoXiR4MauKcsAg

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

Sheeting? You mean that yankee wrap garbage?
Also I'm talkin a real house not some american matchstick abomination.

Adrian Johnson
Adrian Johnson

Funny, a whole thread about people discussing buildings they can never afford.
If you live in Western Europe, you have to be a millionaire to buy a house. I'm sure it's the same in many parts of North America.
A house used to be something everyone had. Now it's only for millionaires.

Dylan Price
Dylan Price

Reminder:
American / Western Europe tend to use Exclusive zoning in which an area can be used for only one type of construction.
Nips however, allow housing, schools, and clinics everywhere and anywhere making housing not as stupid as other countries.
Grab a baseball bat and gently remind your local city leaders of the wisdom of a Maximum Use zoning system.

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Adam Adams
Adam Adams

Then all you need is 100 young trees, a chainsaw, and clay for chinking, unless you do a scribe-fitted log house, then no real chinking required. But you said you had no monies so hardwood in't in your budget. Do a platform framed house (modern) with wood joinery where valuable and don't use plywood or osb, use 1x lumber for your siding and do board/batten.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

<we should let jews build everywhere
Fucking no.
t. r35 land owner

David Brown
David Brown

<a real house
<not some american matchstick abomination
Platform framing and it's predecessor, Balloon framing, are a mix of French and Norse building techniques you uneducated tard. Only ply and shard sheeting are shit because fuck glue for permanence.

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

There will never again be mixed residential-business use buildings like every local Main Street across rural America because of muh property values people like this.
wattafag I bet you live in the coasts too.

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Jace Edwards
Jace Edwards

There is a difference between 'Euclidean' and 'Land-use' zoning. Land-use zoning can address all issues and there is no need for Euclidian zoning.
r-35
The 'r' means residential. This is only for the main use. You can use it how you want so long as primary use is living. You can change this zoning with 'conditional' permits.
The 35 means one dwelling unit for every 35 acres of land. This is because the secondary use is agriculture. It can be zoned dual res/ag but it doesn't have to be because of
Liberty
Guns
Beer
&
Tits
coastal insults
from a desert rat
No I am not allowed near the coast I will be jailed for thought crime.

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

And I’ll fry you eggs early in the morning, and butter you a thick piece of cold bread, and I’ll slice the bacon myself, and bring you hot chocolate, and you’ll sit on the wood rail fence in your nightgown, and I’ll put my jacket over your shoulders, and we’ll balance our plates on our knees and watch the sun come up while we eat. And when I have to leave the house to go work you’ll wait for me, won’t you? You’ll sit on the fence and watch the dirt road till you see me coming back home to you.

Hunter Robinson
Hunter Robinson

quit calling me a Jew, you faggot

Carson Nguyen
Carson Nguyen

Maybe you have to be in a 100% earthquake free location though
No such thing. Best you can do is making large granite slabs, get bores at the axis, pour same density concrete mix, rebar, lay foundation on beams. And because weight and soils, use long deep piles.

Also good luck finding builders who can do it.
there was a time when masons used to do that thing
wew

Logan Russell
Logan Russell

There was also a time when I wasn't targetted by faggots and laughed at by trash.

Mason Reed
Mason Reed

archiving again…
zigforums.com/thread/13377339/politics

Nicholas Perez
Nicholas Perez

archive
archive.fo/3qQMz

Connor Sanchez
Connor Sanchez

Can you do multiple floors using Inca construction?

Carter Reyes
Carter Reyes

I know someone who swears by the "butt and pass" method of log cabin building, saying that it doesn't suffer problems from settling.
logcabinhub.com/butt-and-pass-log-cabin/

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Josiah Stewart
Josiah Stewart

House threads. Best threads. Better than space elevator threads, which we don't get anymore.

Learned about wood100 and moonwood from these threads.

Benjamin Long
Benjamin Long

we should keep /housepill/ as a general, follow the thread and especially check the links I posted and youll learn a lot

This is why nobody really uses them outside of extremely large buildings

they are quite common in mediteranian area, probably because wood would get quickly damaged from water salt, regarding replacing them, I dont think you have to demo the entire house, if you can do a foundation replacement with modern machines, you should be able to replace a concrete roof

handmade houses by Noah Bradley but its no free, but dont rush, research stuff on your own first before paying

look how cute those houses used to look, quality brickwork as well…what is the trick of stoping that flat roof from leaking? taring it combined with draining systems?

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Mason Hughes
Mason Hughes

wood100 and moonwood from these threads.

that austrian guy is building 4 story hotels out of wood now

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Camden Taylor
Camden Taylor

mestizo is based

Thats the thing about all these spics theyre flooding the US with. If we can convince the roman catholics to hate jews again all those spics would happily whip out their pocket knives and saw off 6 million jews heads.

Glad to see this thread again I am building a cabin in remote alaska. Out of pallets, no real trees here. And I'm in over my head lol

Blake Anderson
Blake Anderson

My fiance and I are looking for a mobile home as a stepping stone to buying or making our own house. Any recommendations in what to look for? Right now our upper limit is $200,000 due to several other expenses. I'd rather buy a house, but time is tight with a baby on the way and all we can find in the budget are not live in ready.

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Owen Johnson
Owen Johnson

Mobile homes don't hold value very well.
So its not likely to be worth it.

Brody Young
Brody Young

If a mobile home payment is the same as renting it's not really worth it.
If a mobile home payment is the same as purchasing a home it's not really worth it.

Daniel Jackson
Daniel Jackson

These are my favorite threads.

Michael Harris
Michael Harris

so if your kids want to raise their family on the family land they will usually have to extend on the same building?

you wanna spend 200 grand on a depreciating in value mobile home?
why not just live in with your parents?
200 grand in extending your parents house would probably get you plenty of living space and then you can also keep an eye on your parents as they age and they can help you raise your kids

Jason White
Jason White

There's a technical term for them
Yes, "temporary". If you put steel in concrete, you make it a fragile temporary material. Concrete on its own will last centuries, rebar filled concrete won't make it a single century.
Ceramic porosity depends on the clay used and the firing done. If tile works fine in northern Scandinavia, I think you can relax.
The only reason this is a problem is because of overpopulation. Stop trying to help overcome the problems caused by importing subhumans.
There is no such thing as moonwood dumbass, it is just a scam to bilk hippies.
Move somewhere not retarded. You can buy 50 acres with a late 1800s farmhouse and barn for that.

Aiden Scott
Aiden Scott

There is a book, available for like $1 second hand, called The Geometry of Design (First Edition, not the Second one, which isn't as architecture focused), that you'll really enjoy, on the subject of the golden ration in classical architecture.

Levi Jones
Levi Jones

rebar filled concrete won't make it a single century
My brother is a project manager for a structural concrete builder and he says you're literally wrong

Owen Fisher
Owen Fisher

Well my dad works for nintendo and he says the super duper nintendo will be 128 bits and have a new metroid!11

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

There is no such thing as moonwood dumbass, it is just a scam to bilk hippies.
Okay, I won't take your word for it.

Christopher Cruz
Christopher Cruz

After 80 years the chemical bonds start to break up. If the concrete is isolated from outside it'll last longer, but it won't be much over 100 years.

Zachary Cook
Zachary Cook

Concrete on its own will last centuries, rebar filled concrete won't make it a single century.

concrete on its own wont last centuries - its porous for one and chemically based (modern concrete) so it cracks with long sun exposure etc, rock masonry will last for centuries or millenias.

regarding RC, many floors on older buildings Ive seen IRL are RC and are close to 100, but RC when exposed is far less durable than people think if that is what you tried to say

There is no such thing as moonwood dumbass, it is just a scam to bilk hippies.

is water level rising according to moon changes a scam as well?

After 80 years the chemical bonds start to break up. If the concrete is isolated from outside it'll last longer, but it won't be much over 100 years.

100 is a good number for RC, its usually floors that can last that long, but exposed RC degrades "quickly"

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Wyatt Adams
Wyatt Adams

regarding reinfroced concrete durability, these are 3 pictures of sidewalks I took:

1.granite
2.preformed concrete
3.preformed reinforced concrete

age is not equal but you get the point. 3 pictures=3000 word essay on RC water damage.

Also, in defense of RC, RC is probably the most durable material SHORTTERM since its impact durability is better than that of drystone masonry (which is more durable LONGTERM), so like with all technology its horses for courses, no technology is obsolete despite what bugman with switches tell you.

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Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

Yes these pictures in your posts used to be the way we used to build here in central Europe. But now everything looks like this. Fucking shoe boxes.

I dislike this look, but I think no overhang might be functional here because it has an external or ventialted facade and needs to be dried that way. It simply wont last because water will affect the concrete walls, but its still a solid build despite that there are better options out there.

cave houses

I recommend avoiding this entirely, very risky in terms of choosing the right rock and moisture is a big problem, guys who built Petra knew smth we dont - look up ancient archeologists video on it, best I can do.

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Kayden Richardson
Kayden Richardson

WTF

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

Buy a property for 50-100k, then get the book "The Hand-Sculpted House" and make your own cob-building.
It's got some quirks, but it's cheap and very easy to make. If you want to replace it, you can always set it somewhere besides the place where you want to build your real house afterwards and use it as a store-room later on.

Justin Barnes
Justin Barnes

What kind of wood should I use if I wanted to build a small chicken coop? Solid boards (of what tree?), plywood? Would it need a brick or concrete floor? I want relatively inexpensive but also traditional.

Also, what is your opinion on building with cored brick vs. solid brick vs concrete bricks?

Angel Phillips
Angel Phillips

If you're raising chickens for meat I'd recommend a chicken tractor.
Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it that much. It doesn't need to be big and won't be under much load.

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

Okay, how about a shed?

familyhandyman.com/sheds/diy-storage-shed-building-tips/

This guide recommends building plywood floors for sloped ground, and OSB siding. Is that reasonable because it's not living space and saves money, or should OSB be banished in all circumstances?

Also, I have no idea what many of these terms are like 'trusses', 'framing', and 'studs'. I have no building knowledge so would I start out with woodworking basics or some kind of carpentry book?

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

nice posts user
I'm a scaffolder and own a small scaffold mob. I plan on getting into envelope work. I'm young (39) but look at what are supposed to be my seniors and wonder what the fuck are they doing?
In the 80's where I live we had a leaky condo scandal costing a fortune. This booms poor work and materials choice will ensure the next scandal is entire apartments riddled with mold.
Exteriour sheathing in MDF wrapped in plastic…. What could go wrong?

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

That is because modern houses are (((airtight))) which is related to asthma problems kids devlop.
Code was just changed here a year ago so that all bathroom fans need to run full time due to houses being "air tight".
Are you suggesting we go back to tar paper for enteriour vapour barrier?

Dylan White
Dylan White

oil based as close to old style paints as we can legally buy
i did mine in a linseed oil based paint
not sure if it's better but i saw it recondition the 30 year old cedar siding a bit

Charles Butler
Charles Butler

Bless this thread

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Liam Hughes
Liam Hughes

I built my chicken coop out of garbage plastic and random sticks from the woods. Been holding chickens happily for 5 years now. Cost me about 20 nails 4 hinges and a dozen or so screws.

Sebastian Wilson
Sebastian Wilson

Build an earthbag house or a log cabin for like 5k… What the fuck would you spend that kind of money for a fucking big car to live in…

Jordan Perez
Jordan Perez

buildloghomes.org/

Butt and pass is legit. You have to set pieces of rebar in the logs… not all the way throug but HALF WAY THROUGH so the log swells and shrinks aroudn the steel peg and the movement is absorbed by the chinking not raising the roof.

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

Fuckin' hoser, good to know there's some rural Ontario lads on here

Cameron Robinson
Cameron Robinson

what is the trick of stoping that flat roof from leaking?
The guy's channel is gold.

Michael Turner
Michael Turner

Just don't build this
imgur.com/a/wixkx

Seriously though, I'd rather avoid using OSB because it's really shitty. It won't last long. Sure, you won't live in it, but that doesn't mean you don't want the shed to last several years.
Start with a good foundation to avoid the shed sinking (make a big hole, pour broken bricks or gravel, put a concrete wire mesh, and pour concrete over it). You then make a timber frame (1st pic) which isn't really that hard and shouldn't be as complicated as the one in the pic. You also make the floor frame (second pic). Over the floor frame you nail the wooden boards that are going to act as the floor. Plywood is probably fine for a shed.
For the walls you can try several things. You can either nail wooden boards (I'd avoid OSB just because it's really low quality, but other types of wood are fine) or, if you want to be a little bit fancier, try doing wattle and daub, which is a really easy technique that doesn't require much technical knowledge and looks great, but it's more time consuming (embed related). For the roof just do a metal roof which is probably the easiest.
Although if you have absolutely no experience in carpentry maybe try with a smaller project like building garden beds, a bird box, or things like that.
Can't tell you much about books since the only one I've read is one about Japanese joinery but other than that I learned from trial and error.
Best of lucks user.

Thomas Richardson
Thomas Richardson

Ok for some reason the pics didn't upload, here they are

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Caleb Fisher
Caleb Fisher

What the Bleep Happened to Architecture?

Andrew King
Andrew King

The only legitimate source of property is through labor. A trader can labor to create wealth. A rent-seeking land owner offers nothing to society, and is only a parasite stealing the fruit of another mans labor.

Ayden Morales
Ayden Morales

In classical Roman religion, a genius loci (plural genii locorum) was the protective spirit of a place. It was often depicted in religious iconography as a figure holding attributes such as a cornucopia, patera (libation bowl) or snake. Many Roman altars found throughout the Western Roman Empire were dedicated to a particular genius loci. The Roman imperial cults of the Emperor and the imperial house developed in part in connections with the sacrifices made by neighborhood associations

Alexander Pope made the Genius Loci an important principle in garden and landscape design with the following lines from Epistle IV, to Richard Boyle, Earl of Burlington:

Consult the genius of the place in all;
That tells the waters to rise, or fall;
Or helps th' ambitious hill the heav'ns to scale,
Or scoops in circling theatres the vale;
Calls in the country, catches opening glades,
Joins willing woods, and varies shades from shades,
Now breaks, or now directs, th' intending lines;
Paints as you plant, and, as you work, designs.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_loci

Adrian James
Adrian James

pic rel is an example of a build from early post WW2, these are pleb temporary apartments, but notice the high level of build that was normal then - terazzo stairs which are so rare these days, legit wooden railing (with curvature!), this is smth like 60yo and still, they really made with higher standards before, even shacks

so its torchdown tar? How long does it last? We use torched tar for proofing basements and it works well.

I'm a scaffolder and own a small scaffold mob.

what a cool job user, Fred Dibnah was a scaffolder as well. Give us some stories.

Exteriour sheathing in MDF wrapped in plastic…. What could go wrong?

erghhh! I just watched how a local apratment building was repaired on outer shell changed…changed with laquered OSB panels, it is what it is…

bathroom

the simplest solution is make the bathroom from bricks and tile it, why complicate with wraps etc?

uk pic?

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Ethan Hughes
Ethan Hughes

Meanwhile, however, a lot of damage has been done. While a renewed interest in circulating fans could save large amounts of energy when cooling buildings, there are limits to what can be achieved because the widespread use of AC has had a profound influence on architecture. Before the advent of air-conditioning, buildings in hot climates were designed in such a way that they were comfortable during summer months without the use of energy. They encouraged natural ventilation by, among other things, large porches, high ceilings, roof vents, sash windows, ventilation shafts, transoms over interior doors, and courtyards. Some houses were even built on stilts to allow for more air circulation. 16911

Traditional buildings in hot climates kept solar radiation out by using heavy construction materials, big eaves, reflective tin roofs, and growing shade trees around the house. Air conditioning did away with all these building elements and stimulated the use of lighter and cheaper building materials. Office blocks with H, T, and L-shaped footprints, which facilitated cross-ventilation, were replaced by massive, square blocks with very deep floor plans. Completely new building types emerged, such as office towers with fully glazed facades or enclosed shopping centres, which would be simply uninhabitable without air-conditioning because of the greenhouse effect. While fans could somewhat lower the energy use of air-conditioning in such buildings, energy consumption would remain very high.

from low tech magazine

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Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

so its torchdown tar? How long does it last? We use torched tar for proofing basements and it works well.
I gather it's a tar and rubber composite sheet.

Ian Hughes
Ian Hughes

You don't need to, do some basic research. Everything in that scam video shows it is bullshit. Of course his wooden walls did good in a burn test, wooden walls always do good in burn tests. He is simply lying about how they didn't want to test it. There's hundreds of published results of solid wood walls doing just as well, and none of them are magic "mood wood". Every special property he tries to claim is unique to "moon wood" is a property of ordinary fucking wood.
concrete on its own wont last centuries
Yeah, those concrete buildings that are over 2000 years old certainly prove you right. Retard.
its porous for one and chemically based (modern concrete)
What kind of idiotic non-statement is "chemically based"? Everything is chemically based you fucking moron.
is water level rising according to moon changes a scam as well?
Are tacos a scam as well? Stop with the non-sequitur idiocy and make an argument if you think the stupid hippy scam is legit. If it were legit, why does he have to lie about normal wood and say it is shit and rots instantly and normal solid wood walls burn up in minutes? He is just cashing in on people's complete and total ignorance of normal wood, since his customer base is entirely people who grew up in houses made of glue.

Aiden Carter
Aiden Carter

9:30 AM no neighbors
"You bought an adjustable bed with all the disposable income you have from not having a kid"
(((They))) are truly everywhere.

Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

I'm thinking right now about building something like house shown on vid rel. It has recently started to become more popular in central Europe. I'd like to build something like that, but with additional attic of the same size (35m^2).

This is one of very few options for me to get a home without getting into many years of debt slavery to a jew. However most people do it using OSB which this thread convinced me not to use so i'm thinking whether it's possible to build similar, cheap small house which will last at least my lifetime without problems. Changing OSB for plywood prob wont be enough so i wonder what else need to be improved?

How to choose correct materials of such kind of house? How to insulate it? Condom wraps seems to suck. Would building this kind of house with 35 m^2 (~375 square feet) bottom floor and 35m^2 attic be much cheaper than let's say 50m^2(~540 square feet) bottom floor and 50m^2 attic?

No tornados and floods here at least so it should be doable.

Ayden Garcia
Ayden Garcia

Yeah, those concrete buildings that are over 2000 years old certainly prove you right. Retard.

exept that is Roman concrete and today we use "Portland" cement which is completly different, not that you would understand that or how the wood grain changes acording to water it has…your total stupidity reminds me of specific user…tell me are you the guy from Florida that bragged about building a house in the last thread?

Ethan Wright
Ethan Wright

found this road building manual
pacificwatershed.com/sites/default/files/roadsenglishbookapril2015b_0.pdf

Nicholas Martin
Nicholas Martin

exept that is Roman concrete
Which is concrete. It is right in the name and everything.
today we use "Portland" cement which is completly different
So you can go right ahead and explain how portland cement makes concrete that doesn't last, but every other cement ever in history makes concrete that lasts. Or you could quit being a fucking retard and realize the cement used isn't the problem.
how the wood grain changes acording to water it has
It doesn't. It also doesn't change how long it takes to burn. And you would know this if you took the two seconds to do basic research and see solid wood walls always exceed every fire test in existence. It doesn't matter what the fucking moon is.

Nicholas Bennett
Nicholas Bennett

youtu.be/n_yAY1Ybfmk
This family has a lot of good videos on building earthbag dorms for each of their kids that don’t look like turds in the slightest. It’s all about vision and the competency to see it through.

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

Simpson Strong Ties literally has an equals sign with a slash through it for their symbol. As a guarantee that no product is equal to theirs.

ZIP board, a type of plywood, from Advantech is some pretty durable shit. It’ll last for years without any additional siding over it, so you don’t have to use Tyvek housewrap. But the sheets, and the ZIP tape that goes with are pretty pricey.

Eli Scott
Eli Scott

makes a speech to himself

Yep, its the same idiot from Florida.

Colton Harris
Colton Harris

central Europe
t. Walser
Your build should look something like links related:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-and-plank (Bohlenständerbau)
wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_framing (Ständerbauweise, Firstständerhaus, Gefügebauweise, Geschossbauweise, Rähmbauweise, Stockwerksbauweise)
stadthochzwei.de/2017/06/27/schwenninger-museumsgeschichte-die-alamannen-und-roemerstuben-im-heimatmuseum-1/
Or mix it with log frame:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Lusatian_house (Umgebindehaus)
OSB
See for infos on sheeting.
Use thin lumber to "sheet" your frame if you do a modern platform frame ([email protected] or [email protected]) with insulation cavity. If you do the material layering correctly it will block all air draft. Link related:
wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Barley_Barn_Roof_Structure.JPG
without problems
You can get plywood with natural non-toxic glues if you choose plywood.
what else need to be improved
Airflow is more imprtant than anything. In a 100-square foot wall, one cup of water can diffuse through untreated drywall (without a vapor barrier) in a year but 50 cups of water can enter through a 1/2-inch diameter round hole. You do not need to worry about diffusion through materials like you do actual holes into your walls.
How to insulate it
Insulation is defined as the cavity that equalizes temperature, in a log house there is no "insulation" in this sense. In a modern house the cavity exists and is intended to be filled with some sort of insulation "fill". Actual wool, not rockwool, from sheeps is the best and most resistant to mold and gravity, is the least toxic and harmful to the world, and costs the most. Worth it. Or just go with no insulation fill.
Condom wraps seems to suck
See for info on barriers.
cheaper
Larger house costs more in materials and in heating.
no tornados or floods
Look into snow load requirements.

Hudson Wright
Hudson Wright

no argument
reddit spaces
Yep, its the same idiot from Florida.

Kayden Cruz
Kayden Cruz

any dutch anons familiar with this type of "wall over roof" build?
Are there any functional reason for basically compromising structural stability of the wall and putting the roof inside? Was it to create less shade on the streets?

I know that its a solid build and walls dont just collapse to the street but it creates a water damage risk…does this type of build have any specific problems? thanks!

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Hunter Brooks
Hunter Brooks

What is an OP approved way to insulate my cuckshed? Modern materials offgas and apparently trap too much moisture, so what is the alternative? More importantly, what is the affordable, non labor intensibe alternative?

Ian Martin
Ian Martin

straw and mud mix is an excellent choice (cob or adobe wall basically), another simple solution is putting plastic bags between the wall instead of wool (but high risk of flamability!), you can use leftover lamb wool between walls, leftover wood (without glue offcourse) etc., there are so many non toxic solutions, its best to stick to already tested ones like adobe/cob, but you can go to more extravagant ones if the risk is calculated

Luke Hernandez
Luke Hernandez

Goddamn, you guys are really trying with this necrothread shit lol

Charles Gutierrez
Charles Gutierrez

is putting plastic bags between the wall instead of wool

*instead of mineral wool if you cant afford it

Jordan Davis
Jordan Davis

What about Roman concrete?

Easton Taylor
Easton Taylor

is there any of this info for free? i dont really want to pay $1k and wait another couple months to learn how to build a log cabin.

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

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Jaxson Ward
Jaxson Ward

obsession with ded things
t. jew

Ryder Collins
Ryder Collins

They are simple facade. The western style buildings in the US are influenced by these and other Dutch styles (reinterpreted Roman styles), as are most farm houses and barns.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_false_front_architecture
You can extend the timbers into the bricks though.

Camden Hughes
Camden Hughes

Yeah in bits and pieces. The key word is 'Butt and pass' log construction. best free stuff is cob/adobe/earthbag.

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

What about new graphene-concrete?
newatlas.com/graphene-concrete/54325/
Is it being used yet for anything?

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

Nice, this thread again. (((Modern architecture))) is disgusting.

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

how about slate over a thin sheet of reinforced concrete? it would look nice and be super strong

Mason Adams
Mason Adams

reinforced concrete?
Concrete does a poor job at moving water.
It absorbs and holds water instead of wicking it like terracotta, wood, earth, or even plaster.
You would ideally want an impermeable outer sheath like tile, stone, or metal followed by a less permeable surface like tar paper, followed by a wicking surface like wood.
The reason is that you want to create a gradient which allows minor leaks and man-made humidity to quickly dry by increasing the surface area of the trapped water.
And what do you know, you've made a traditional roof.

Concrete is pretty shit if you want something either water tight, or good at wicking.
If you read through this thread, there's an user who points out how shitty concrete mortar is, although for different reasons.

Andrew Green
Andrew Green

how about slate over a thin sheet of reinforced concrete?

that might work, Ive seen plenty of RC roofs with Terracota tiles over it and it works very well, but be aware of significantly bigger mass that needs stronger foundations and beefier structure all together

Concrete does a poor job at moving water.

he said hell cover the concrete with slate, not put concrete as outer layer - that way hell basically have a concrete loading for roof that hell cover which is a solid option.
other user mentioned that its very hard to replace it unlike wood beam for roof loading but problems of destroyed RC roof loading from moisture only come after 60-100 years if you use proper cover like terracota or steel

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Samuel Morales
Samuel Morales

You would ideally want an impermeable outer sheath like tile, stone, or metal followed by a less permeable surface like tar paper, followed by a wicking surface like wood.

how needed is the tar layer between the wicking layer surface (metal, terra, slate, shingles…) and roof loading system (wood beams, steel beams, RC). Ive seen that some people put "wicking layers" directly only loading without tar and it creates no problems, tar layer is a must in the basement wall. Im talking about atticks that are the living spaces

Leo Thomas
Leo Thomas

How many freaking times are you gonna copy/paste this thread? You’ve already been debunked. There are reasons US builders build the way they do. Dumb, autistic thread for the ignorant.

Kevin Miller
Kevin Miller

What are vented cavities
what are vapour barriers
what is ventilation
what is reinforced concrete

The only reason old constructions were "ventilated" was because the technology of the time could not completely seal the house and the natural ventilation occurred. This was not something that anyone thought of, because it was never a thing until modern building started to happen. What you had though was people huddling in one central room of the house every winter night because it was so cold and because heating was so inefficient.
If properly built and maintained, modern construction house can last a century or so.

You may idealize old construction, but it was not perfect. Most old buildings being lived in today have some sort of insulation added on to them, and every space is being refurbished to improve conditions (at least here in Europe).
Material-wise, most old construction was not as sturdy as you imagine either, with lack of consistent material control, general expense and lack of skilled builders. Majority of old remaining construction is in big public buildings or private residences and those are usually built to last on purpose.

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

This was not something that anyone thought of, because it was never a thing until modern building started to happen. What you had though was people huddling in one central room of the house every winter night because it was so cold and because heating was so inefficient.
Modern house are a wast of energy resources
warm up air instead of people
waste your money 101

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Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

the contrast of traditional building compared to postmodern "technology" is more visible in USA that in Europe, european construction has more integrity but postmodern construction gimmicky are creeping in every year.

Regarding durability of old VS new, all of it was built to a higher durability standard, not necessery higher thermal or comfort standard, but they were way more durable.

eg.1 Old peasant wood houses were log cabins or half timber with lath and plaster/wattle and daub, now its nailing cheap pine with osb which is structually simply an inferior method

eg.2 Old peasant stone houses in hot climates were made out of masonry, now they are doing them with bricks and RC and AC is becoming a must since you cant replicate the cooling effect of a stone wall in summer because of lower thermal mass

The possibiltiy to refurbish an old space also tells about its durability, you simply cant refurbish low quality build…but this thread isnt about luditism, we integrate old and new and make high quality old methods more affordable with new technology instead of just throwing away old discoveries.
Think about this - iron casting was a new discovery that made industrial revolution despite that the product of casting in inferior in all ways compared to old style steel forging exept the time needed to create it, but that doesnt mean one is inferior or superior to other, bohe have a place, same with "obsolete" construction methods.

You’ve already been debunked. There are reasons US builders build the way they do.

Only reason is that you are being scammed and I wont stay quiet when I see my american friends being scammed.

lowtechmag

patrician tier.

Nathaniel Baker
Nathaniel Baker

This is incomprehensible.
user, your inability to comprehend might have something to do with you being a nigger.
hat&boots user is pointing out - rightfully - the differences between modern materials and their lifespan vs more time tested materials.
Roman concrete is still standing firm, yet America builds a bridge with modern materials and rusty rebar is showing within 5 years.
A house that has been standing fine for 100 years is "brought up to code" using modern materials and rots almost immediately.
kys

Elijah Diaz
Elijah Diaz

I bought a house right before house pill general, so I ended up just buying it mostly on intuition and avoiding anything new. It was made in the 20/30s and is completely unique on my neighborhood as the only one with a flat roof (among other curiosities stemming from the eccentric owner). It seems otherwise really well made. Do you know what kind of materials would have been used for such a roof in that period? It has some kind of foam now and I doubt it is original.

Alexander Cook
Alexander Cook

Building nice long lasting structures only makes if you're confident that your people will own them in 100+ years.

When you look at some of the nicer old structures that have held up in our cities only to be inherited by nogs, one has to consider that maybe it would have been better if they didn't just disintegrate into a toxic mess after 30 years of poor maintenance.

Aiden Parker
Aiden Parker

see house made 100% of asbestos
buy it
Be careful get a halfmask so you don't die.
The U.S. asbestos industry had an early start in 1858, when fibrous anthophyllite was mined for use as asbestos insulation by the Johns Company in New York. US production began in earnest in 1899, with the discovery of large deposits in the Belvidere Mountain.
The use of asbestos became increasingly widespread towards the end of the 19th century, when its diverse applications included fire-retardant coatings, concrete, bricks, pipes and fireplace cement, heat-, fire-, and acid-resistant gaskets, pipe insulation, ceiling insulation, fireproof drywall, flooring, roofing, lawn furniture, and drywall joint compound.
Other.
Some Persians believed the fiber was the fur of an animal, called the samandar which lived in fire and died when exposed to water, which was where the former belief that the salamander could tolerate fire originated.
The United States remains one of the few developed countries to not ban asbestos which is legal and still widely used in such commonly used products as clothing, pipeline wraps, vinyl floor tiles, millboards, cement pipes, disk brake pads, gaskets and roof coatings.
In 2010, Washington State banned asbestos in automotive brakes starting in 2014. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), has set limits of 100,000 fibers with lengths greater than or equal to 5 µm per cubic meter of workplace air for eight-hour shifts and 40-hour work weeks.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos

Planned obsolescence tbh.

Christian Evans
Christian Evans

how needed is the tar layer between the wicking layer surface (metal, terra, slate, shingles…) and roof loading system (wood beams, steel beams, RC). Ive seen that some people put "wicking layers" directly only loading without tar
I only mentioned tar paper because is cheap, widely available, and yet does it's job.
Metal siding or roofing is the only thing I know of that needs tar paper because of the potential for condensation to collect on the interior surface even with proper insulation and ventilation.

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

one has to consider that maybe it would have been better if they didn't just disintegrate into a toxic mess after 30 years of poor maintenance
I've thought about this, maybe our best design philosophy should be to require constant maintenance or it all turns to dust. Buildings, infrastructure, large projects like dams etc.

It's a kind of fuse to guarantee that those things can only ever belong to a white man. I have considered a situation where designing an off-world habitation, have a bunch of different colonies all staffed by different well-trained families of all different races (thus appeasing muh diversity crowd), but design them in such a way that they require regular manual maintenance or the facility slowly but permanently degrades. It would be a subtle time bomb that wouldn't show up until a generation or two later, when all the subhuman colonies life support systems sputter and die due to incremental lack of care. It wouldn't even matter how strict the training or how stern the warnings, the other races would eventually fuck it all up. I could only see Europeans and East Asians managing to keep the wheels turning for any reasonable length of time.

Logan Bennett
Logan Bennett

The problem comes when non-genetic europeans eventually fail at maintaining their properties and jews argue that they need to live for free in properties built by Europeans and use tax money, mostly from genetic Europeans, to maintain the properties. This is why cultural shift is key. Non-genetic Europeans need to want to live on their own in their homelands or they will forever desire to be European. They already try to speak, dress, eat, and act like Europeans. They never will be. They need to accept, not reject, their ancestral culture. No more Cory Bookers.

Isaiah Bell
Isaiah Bell

I still think it's a good long-term sabotage plan. If there exists a white ethnostate clinging on for dear life out there somewhere, it would be best if all contaminated places imploded and collapsed back to nothing so as to pose the least possible threat to the budding community.

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

its not the lack of skill of the carpenter that makes these buildings

The Trades just create jobs for morons with no pride in their work. It's a cartel. They will build any old shit, so long as they get paid. People should be building their own homes.

Logan Hill
Logan Hill

whats the difference between building a prison and building a house?

Jayden Perez
Jayden Perez

rusty rebar is showing within 5 years
BS! You'll never show that.

Rusty rebar does show on old bridges, but after more like 50 years, and that's because cities are cheap & use sodium deicing salts. It they'd use CaCl2 they wouldn't get the spalling. You won't get that from ordinary conditions

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Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

A rent-seeking land owner offers nothing to society
Would renters rather sleep on the street? Because that is the only other option. If you cant be fucked to succeed at least modestly, AND you must have a roof over your head, then why shouldnt the guy letting you live under his roof charge you for it? Property is equity and maintains a certain value threshold regardless, but the house itself depreciates. Keeping water running through the pipes invariably causes them to eventually need repair. Electrical wiring has a live span of about 25 years after which time it should be replaced. Every time your snot nosed little welfare kids rub up against the walls it wears at the paint. Age and foot traffic wear at the floor. Every time you spill water on the kitchen counter some of it seeps down and damages the cabinet frame. etc etc etc.

Why shouldn't a property owner charge a fee in excess of cost to cover the inconvenience caused by the use and misuse of his property?

If you are a renter and you have a problem with how renting works then you have no one else to blame for not getting off your fucking ass and working towards affording property in the first place and thus deserve to be a renter. 5% is all you need to get yourself a house. 5% and your "monthly rent" is suddenly much less than it would be otherwise and a portion of it returns to you in equity each month i.e. you arent just throwing your money at a landlord each month Thats $5k for a 100k house with payments of around $500/ month.

b-b-but then the kikes win
As opposed to you throwing your money away on a rental, no portion of which you will ever see again?

Asher Anderson
Asher Anderson

Would renters rather sleep on the street?
If you don't know what rent-seeking is, you are too fucking ignorant to be spouting your brain damaged kikey opinion here you retarded nigger. Your entire post is completely irrelevant because you don't understand the post you are replying to.

Bentley Butler
Bentley Butler

Rent seeking is a bullshit pilpul loaded phrase.

an attempt to obtain economic rent (i.e., the portion of income paid to a factor of production in excess of what is needed to keep it employed in its current use)

That's fine and fucking dandy why the fuck should a property owner not seek a profit? Why should they not rent their property out in excess of the cost of merely maintaining it? Without that there is zero fucking incentive to rent property to anyone and there'd be a whole lot of pathetic faggots living on the streets.

by manipulating the social or political environment in which economic activities occur, rather than by creating new wealth.

That isnt "rent-seeking", that is kikery.

Angel Baker
Angel Baker

concrete
vapour barriers
insulation
hvac dependency

everything he said. mic drop.

Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

Rentiers being reclassified as "productive members of society and the economy" is one of the great scams of neoclassical economics. Guys like Adam Smith had this down the first time. They suck money and wealth out of all other areas of the economy.

Adam Perez
Adam Perez

concrete

vapour barriers

insulation

(((hvac))) dependency

Guys like Adam Smith had this down the first time.

what did Smith specifically said about renties? I wouldnt say that they dont produce anything, renting property is a service that isnt totally free of work…

Carter Jackson
Carter Jackson

He essentially said there was productive labor and unproductive labor. Landlords were in the latter. They like to reap what they've never sown.

Ethan Adams
Ethan Adams

Nothing says "Zig Forums - news, politics, current events" like a completely off topic /architecture/ thread that has nothing to do with the board.

Brandon Morales
Brandon Morales

He essentially said there was productive labor and unproductive labor. Landlords were in the latter.

But having a place to rent can be a productive service to have unless there is monopoly

completely off topic /architecture/ thread

Majority of young adults dont have their own place and most of the ones that do have a mortage on it. That and quality of construction is garbage. Pol.

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Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

go eat some OSB for breakfast
Burger approves of this sentiment. U.S. housing post late fifties is a horror show.

Asher Baker
Asher Baker

The other guys complain about having to work overtime and pass on it
Oldfag tradesman here (not construction though). Always, always take overtime. Every time. Sleep in the shop if you have to. Don't let the shop owner jew you out of what you're worth either. Know your skill level and be aggressive with wage negotiations. They will fuck you around an shortchange you if they can. I got fucked directly in the ass by boomers so many times my anus is prolapsed. You guys are lucky to have other men giving you real world advice.

I also pick my foreman's brain.
Also watch every single person in the organization. From the secretary at the front desk to the HNIC. Each company has its' own strengths and weaknesses. Watch and learn from all of them about what you should and shouldn't do.

Leo King
Leo King

Rent is kikery. It's basically just buying up living space just to suck money out of it.

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

Do you think corrugated steel is the best roof material? What about something with fiberglass and epoxy resin like a boat's hull?

Michael Walker
Michael Walker

also, how much rebar is needed when doing this?

Leo Sullivan
Leo Sullivan

I've heard that roman concrete would make for far superior sidewalks, a shame it's not used instead

Logan Allen
Logan Allen

Anglo world
In Britain everything is brick or wood
Stop claiming mutilated Amerimutts are English

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Adrian Foster
Adrian Foster

Stupid faggot stop appropriating Frisian you fucking balding Breton or brown-eyed Corn, learn your own language and stop typing mine.
Pro-tip:
you can't because your gay and it requires a loicence

Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

None. Stack rocks or frame with wood. Older German houses were framed with wood like modern houses but filled with rock then limestone/stucko between the wood.

Nathaniel Jenkins
Nathaniel Jenkins

Implying I am Welsh or Cornish
100% Shropshire lad mate
You american mutilated muttoids can never take our cottages. Shotguns are a legal right here.

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Cameron Miller
Cameron Miller

slipform masonry

while its fast and convinient and superior to 90% of stuff you see, its still a subpar technology compared to old school masonry

roman concrete would make for far superior sidewalks

It would be interesting to see how it performs as a sidewalk, but in terms of durability nothing beats cobble stones

In Britain everything is brick or wood

Stop claiming mutilated Amerimutts are English

dont get me wrong, Brit brick and wood is absoltue God-tier, but your style is very different that continental Europe, on the continent we use RC beams and aerated brick while you use when working with brick, smaller more solid brick without RC. You also use cavity walls often which Ive never seen here, only in Netherlands.

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Thomas Turner
Thomas Turner

The Welsh are basically Saxons.
You should know, they are right next door.
100% Shropshire lad
Charles Darwin
William Penny
Ebenezer Scrooge
These are all balding Bretons, just like you.
It must be nice to live in your ancestral homelands.
Even if it still exited, I am not allowed in mine.
I would go to jail for wrongthink.
Build your home strong.
Defend it.

Parker Wood
Parker Wood

The original Germanic style is to use hollow walls.
They were filled with stone or brick.
Then coated in lime plaster.
Half-timbering refers to a structure with a frame of load-bearing timber, creating spaces between the timbers called panels (in German 'Gefach' or 'Fächer'), which are then filled-in with some kind of nonstructural material known as infill. The frame is often left exposed on the exterior of the building.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_framing
This was an improvement on the traditional Southern European Wattle and daub but was too complex for settlers in the Americas who stuck with timber and chinking (colombage pierroté).
wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattle_and_daub

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

tudor/half timber

I wasnt refering to that style which is somewhat present in most of continental Europe, but cavity wall systems Brits and Dutch use today, while continentals usually cover the rock wool with facade (2nd-continental style and 3rd pic-cavity wall).

This was an improvement on the traditional Southern European Wattle and daub

wattle and daub isnt that much present in Southern Europe, Tudor uses wattle and daub as well for the walls, bricks as filling only came later…

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Owen Cooper
Owen Cooper

why doesn't anyone talk about thatched roofs?

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

Often wonder if Miscanthus Giganteus would be alright for thatched roofing

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Chase Johnson
Chase Johnson

thatched roofs

Im interested in them but it seems to be a highly Brit specific build style so I cant say…can you housepill us on how to do them and how do they perform? why are they so rare today?

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Samuel Rivera
Samuel Rivera

Old school
Anyone have a recommendation for a channel like this but for joinery.

Gavin Wright
Gavin Wright

Anyone have a recommendation for a channel like this but for joinery.

there are plenty of high quality joinery channels, Mr. Chikadee is very good, I also recomment Peter Ward who is a restorator and there you can learn just how durable stuff it. Peter Ward and Mike Hadduck are the most housepilled individuals on yt.

Liam Cook
Liam Cook

If any of you have any youtube channels or websites specifically in regards to architecture and building that you think would be worthwhile to archive in their entirety, please let know.
I have a massive youtube archive of things that I've been preserving over the past year, since digital bookburning for shoddy reasons has become quite fashionable. Right now I'm just focused on saving, which is easy with my automated scripts. Proper sorting and distribution come later.

Please post the full channel link, rather than just throwing out a name. Websites are also welcome.

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Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

Hold the hell up for a damn second here. I fucking KNOW polyurethane foam. The open cell crap you get in a can is quick-fix garbage. Professionally sprayed closed cell foam, when properly heated, mixed, applied, and kept away from the sun after being applied, can last for fucking ages. As an insulation, closed cell is damn near immortal.

The only problem is finding a company that actually knows how to do it right. The monkey in that picture isn't properly filling(moving arm too fast), and obviously running the wrong/inconsistent temp on one of the barrels of material.(it's not supposed to look fluffy like whipped batter, it's supposed to look more like a fine rough textured stucco) That is what a shit foam job looks like, and I doubt it will last 20+ years since the chemical reaction was retarded.

Slate roofs are superior to foam roofs, but properly applied foam is top notch insulation.

Liam Lewis
Liam Lewis

Professionally sprayed closed cell foam, when properly heated, mixed, applied, and kept away from the sun after being applied, can last for fucking ages.
The same insulation is used in refrigerators.
That insulation only lasts 5-10 years in best case scenarios, after which the thermal cycling and differences break down the bond between the structure and insulation.
The voids formed by this process collect moisture which further breaks down the structure.

Non-breathing insulation is garbage in a house.
Man-made polymer insulation is also garbage.

Brayden White
Brayden White

If any of you have any youtube channels or websites specifically in regards to architecture and building that you think would be worthwhile to archive in their entirety, please let know.

these 3 channels are above the rest

youtube.com/user/TheMrBanjocat

youtube.com/user/stibnite11

youtube.com/channel/UCHkYrJ2Fbe7pBjEZvkFzi3A

and these 2 sites are most of you need for a critical approach to (((modern tech)))

notechmagazine.com

lowtechmagazine.com

even a good job with poly foam is bound to deteriorate, foam will eventually turn into dust, its just a matter of 20 or 30 years, another big issue is that it doesnt allow for wood to dry which is why I suggest rock wool which also has it problems like all vertical layering but its more easily fixable if things go wrong.

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Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

After getting shit on for here for the very notion of spending anything on a mobile home, my fiance and I decided to buy land and build a home. Thanks.
Question though, regardless of roadway, which direction should the main entrance face? Feels like a question with strong opinions like the firewood stacking or toilet roll facing. Looking it up briefly brings up nothing but hindu "Vastu" mysticism and a little feng shui.

Angel Davis
Angel Davis

I have never seen a fridge with deteriorated insulation, no matter how old. I don't know where you are getting your ideas.

Do you sell fiberglass insulation for a living?

Has ANYONE seen ANY evidence at all that verfies these claims? I haven't, not even once, ever.

Lincoln Foster
Lincoln Foster

reddit spacing
there are only two ways
I don't know where you are getting your ideas.
I've rebuilt refrigerators with water logged, closed cell insulation.
Suck more "modern" construction dick, faggot.
muh fiberglass
Is shit. It has the exact same problems as foam.

refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2630.html
ijser.org/paper/Flammability-and-Moisture-absorption-test-of-rigid-polyurethane-foam.html

WHY DO YOU THINK COMPANIES WON'T WARRANTY NEW REFRIGERATORS AND FREEZERS USED IN GARAGES?
wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/garage-beer-fridge-warranty-may-not-cover-it

a matter of 20 or 30 years
Degradation occurs within 10 years. Temperature extremes and moisture accelerate the process.

Eli Harris
Eli Harris

Cedar for longest lasting outer walls. Shiplap or just lapping boards over are the most practical and durable way to construct outer walls and they'll be long-lasting when treated. Consider building on steel beams if you want to be able to transport it later on without trouble. Some taxation laws can be avoided in my country if the property isn't attached to a foundation, putting it on par with shacks and sheds. Need to live off-grid though, which is consider a plus.

Consider heating with a rocket stove or rocket mass heater. Up to one tenth of the wood used compared to conventional stoves.

I have plans to build a house 5x10m with two floors and crawlspace attic. As other user recommended I will look into wool. I am skeptical about it lasting longer than mineral wool though thanks to knowing some moths really love sheep wool. Rockwool lasts forever.

In addition to the rocket mass heater I will incorporate a copper water tank inside the mass dome to act as both an even greater heat storage but also a water heating system that firstly will absorb the heat from the flue. That stored hot water will radiate its heat to the mass cob dome around it but with a bit of tube engineering it can provide water heated thanks to and through a copper coil tubing running inside the copper tank that quickly can tap the heat from the hot water mass as it passes throughout. So unless the heat will be tapped off the cold water line through the heated water mass tank, it will simply slowly radiate the excess heat to the solid cob mass around it.

I will collect rainwater and set up a renewable electricity system either inside or outside in a shed that will provide all the luxuries the grid offers if the form of electricity and instant hot water. Look into alternative 'free' energy sources as well. You don't need to burn anything to extract energy from your surroundings. Electrosmog and other devices are being kept away from public as (((their))) main priority thanks to the energy mafia. The men in black will kindly ask you not to be suicided if you keep on displaying any kind of over unity devices in public, and I wouldn't be surprised the main shill efforts, globally, are focused on keeping down the real tinkers and natural scientists out there, like Tesla, who are routinely sabotaged and ridiculed.

Lastly I'll add a composting toilet and a few wastewater tanks for sink water and I'll practically be able to move my whole setup on a few trucks in a day, if needed. Which I hopefully don't need to but in theory. That way I'll be able to say goodbye to the 'settlement-taxation', and only need to pay tax of ownership of the land, which already is crazy high.

Here you'll pay 2% of your settlement/house net (in their words:) (((worth))) annually, not including land tax. That's freaking 20% of your house net ((("worth"))) in only ten years.
That means that if you live in your house for 50 years you would have paid for (((your))) fucking house twice. Honestly. Fuck that.

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Joseph Torres
Joseph Torres

Im not understand what you mean when you say RC "frame" with red bricks?
Do you mean build a reinforced concrete structure then encase it in red bricks?

Chase Torres
Chase Torres

Do you mean build a reinforced concrete structure then encase it in red bricks?

yes, its a pretty no nonse way of building a basic structure

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Julian Jones
Julian Jones

Here's one bro, a strategy that hasn't been mentioned….. (Refurbing ancient stone structures)

This guy is a proper legend.

Charles Jones
Charles Jones

Would this work for a 3 story building WITH a basement?

Michael Smith
Michael Smith

Also, what are these bricks called exactly? "Red brick" turns up small standard bricks.

Benjamin King
Benjamin King

Thermal insulating clay block.

Lucas Baker
Lucas Baker

Would this work for a 3 story building WITH a basement?

offcourse, you can make a skyscraper that way , but anything tall you absolutley must check with a structural engeneer

wow, built in 16th century and still stands even unmaintained, great looking builds btw.

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Carter Allen
Carter Allen

Mike Hadduck
Mr. Portland in everything
Mr. N-type mortar is a good replacement for lime putty or NHL
michaeljamesdesign is better

Zachary Reed
Zachary Reed

why do all modern houses and architecture induce depression?

Why do jewish architects build so many prisons and call them houses?

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

It doesn't work anywhere with winter, no matter the size. Insulation is actually a good thing.

Joshua Taylor
Joshua Taylor

Another question for you…

You said earlier that concrete with rebar wont last long at all, but now you are saying RC with red brick is the way to go?

Im assuming its all about costs? If so, what is the technique above RC with red brick? A little more expensive but more long lasting.

Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

youtube.com/watch?v=AkVAO4vrsUA
Here's an interview with the guy who built that loghouse. There's some pretty neat info in it.

Joseph Roberts
Joseph Roberts

TIME, account for at least a year or two to not rush it
Many municipalities have time limits on building permits now, because they say it's to prevent paperwork pileups.

Gabriel Cox
Gabriel Cox

You said earlier that concrete with rebar wont last long at all, but now you are saying RC with red brick is the way to go?

good obervation, I was mostly using hyperbole about RC being "shortlasting" since mostly people think treat is as the ultimate material (in many cases it is).

RC is a good choice, but what people underestimate is that you need to protect it from water and think about rebar rusting from within since all metal rusts (Mirandi bridge and most modern bridges dont even think about rebar rusiting from within and leave RC exposed unlike old american wooden bridges with roofs that are +100 years now) - so its mostly a problem primarily on bridges while with houses the roof protects RC and RC floors on 2-3 story houses already last almost 200 years. Another issue is mixing RC or plain concrete next to stone or brick but that is another issue..

why do all modern houses and architecture induce depression?

ugly design and toxic materials that offgas.

Thanks but Ive watched almost everything from Northmen.

Mike Hadduck
Mr. Portland in everything
Mr. N-type mortar is a good replacement for lime putty or NHL

Hadduck uses mortat simply due to practicality, he is well aware of its problems when combined next to stone…what is N-type and NHL?

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Henry Morris
Henry Morris

also, if you mount a wooden post to the ground this way you are a nigger

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Levi Evans
Levi Evans

Hadduck uses mortat simply due to practicality, he is well aware of its problems when combined next to stone…what is N-type and NHL?

*Hadduck uses Portland concrete

Ayden Powell
Ayden Powell

Can attest to this. Breathability is of utmost importance and most modern engineers are oblivious or willingly ignore this aspect of planning infrastructure.

Jace Hughes
Jace Hughes

Controlling moisture damage will be next to impossible unless you can completely think outside the box and figure out some good ways to keep the framing dry.

It might work in really dry zones where early settlers used to build inside of rock faces and bedrock.

Jeremiah Diaz
Jeremiah Diaz

Richanons need to use their wealth to invest in multifamily real estate. Then sublet to a private membership org. The private membership org sublets to their members. Private membership orgs are not regulated by fair housing laws so they're allowed discriminate any way the want. This let's you setup white apartment complexes and eventually entire neighborhoods. Don't just use your money to make more money. Use it to buy influence in your local community and shape it into a micro ethnostate.

Justin King
Justin King

what is N-type and NHL?
He specifically says in the first video in this thread: that N-type mortar okay to use for repointing lime mortar.
N-type mortar is 50/50 lime/portland with sand.
Any portland causes problems. It doesn't recalcify if it cracks, it causes rising damp, and it causes spalling.

NHL is natural hydraulic lime, and comes in 3 grades.
lime-mortars.co.uk/articles/hydraulic-lime-which-nhl

Watch embed from 4:50 onwards.
muh strength
muh earthquakes
muh maintenance
Watch Some of those buildings predate the Roman empire, so they've been exposed to many earthquakes and yet they've held together remarkably well.
They're built with lime mortar.

Gavin Wilson
Gavin Wilson

If you want to watch modern builders sold as experts, watch This Old House.

Noah Price
Noah Price

A big improvement over steel rebar for most purposes, is basalt rebar. Has great tensile strength, similar thermal expansion to the material it's in, is highly chemical resistant, and won't rust obviously.

For typical home construction scenarios, I can't think of any reason not to use it beside possible cost or code issues.

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Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

…that sounds like borderline commie talk

Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson

americans since the 1950s

Jayden King
Jayden King

I cannot stress how much money a good overhang will save you in the long run.

Carson Jenkins
Carson Jenkins

make housing next to chrome factory
user, this doesnt end well…

Zachary Ramirez
Zachary Ramirez

I wouldnt say that they dont produce anything, renting property is a service that isnt totally free of work…
Economic rent is the money paid for a resource ABOVE its cost. It is purely an economic inefficiency, where kikes siphon off resources from people who actually do something productive.

Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis

modern engineers are oblivious or willingly ignore this aspect of planning infrastructure.

more HVAC and AC stystems to sell, smart build building should breathe by using material and keep temperature in summer by using thermal mass.

He specifically says in the first video in this thread: (You) that N-type mortar okay to use for repointing lime mortar.
N-type mortar is 50/50 lime/portland with sand.

I missed that, Portland is very brittle and water reactive since porouss and should never be used in combo with stone, lime is obviously superior, but I see less and less lime mortar use even when it the only functioning option.

Peter Ward says the same thing, mortar should function as a motorcycle helmet, you sacrifice it for it to protect something more important.

It is purely an economic inefficiency

renting anything creates cost to the renter as well, if you rent out a car or an auto, you need to maintain it, organize the exchange stystem etc., not work free, but current stystem of renting apartments is messed up.

Oliver Martin
Oliver Martin

I am an illiterate retard
Neat.
renting anything creates cost to the renter as well
Which part of "ABOVE its cost" is confusing you?
but current stystem of renting apartments is messed up.
Economic rent has very little to do with apartments. It is primarily about shit like Schlomo Bagelberg buying a property that is worthless because of zoning, bribing his politician buddies to change the zoning, then selling it for 50 times what he paid for it. The 49x profit, minus the cost of the zoning change, is economic rent.

Caleb Kelly
Caleb Kelly

The "western-type" log house of the Ob Ugrians and other peoples
1 - Kondian Mansi
2 - Lett
3 - Udmurt
4 - Mansi
5 - Russian Arkhangelsk region
6 - Lithuanian

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Jason Morales
Jason Morales

Builder user, what is the best way to waterproof a RC basement?

Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

Which part of "ABOVE its cost" is confusing you?

be more precise about your claims and everyone will be happier. "above its cost" is called having business, making a profit instead of closing a business.

Heavy layer of tar on the outside, I havent seen many leak done that way. Look at middle picture here that has a layer of tar on basement>>13496571

Lincoln Morris
Lincoln Morris

When it comes to pouring an RC slab and supports and maybe walls if I dont go with red brick, do you think I could do this on my own with cement bags and a large mixer? Or would some of the cement dry before I had time to pour it all?

Brayden Hughes
Brayden Hughes

buildingscience.com/ some great articles on this very topic.also the new construction stuff by joe are good. Pic related pvc base in bathroom remodels is good

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Hunter Wilson
Hunter Wilson

Thanks

Jaxon Myers
Jaxon Myers

It IS somewhat jewish:

After the bolshevik revolution in russia the ruling jews set up an architecture think tank to do away with white architecture. In 1919 Walter Gropius had contact with this think tank and imported its ideas into Germany as "Bauhaus" which then over time created the shoebox culture we see nowadays.

Also: the modern way of thinking about architecture, namely to think in terms of costs and profit with total disregard of aesthetics and beauty is essentially jewish and was forced upon us.

Jacob Bell
Jacob Bell

How much isolation is okay without needing an external supply of air for the stove?

Chase Allen
Chase Allen

More like overengineer. Yeah, you COULD do that. But why not have it much simpler, use traditional methods rather than modern bullshit and have something that just works well naturally?
All those problems with moisture (and in consequence mold) are almost exclusive to modern buildings.

Sebastian Jackson
Sebastian Jackson

I don't know/understand how to strip personally identifable info out of a image so sorry… no pics.
save them as png, png doesn't have exif data

Asher Campbell
Asher Campbell

Offgrid Oregon Bro & others,
If you want to cut down on your insurance bills sign up for a Christian health share network. Excellent family coverage for ~1/3rd the monthly cost of the equivalent jewed out plans. You'll need your pastor to sign off on it to get into the network.

Juan Butler
Juan Butler

Oh yes clearly the achilles heel of this design is that it isn't house-sized-boulder proof, like all other modern homes.

Xavier Murphy
Xavier Murphy

if you have land, build a shed. Then fill it with useless crap or burn it down and build it again without all the stupid fuckups you made the first time. when you're done fucking up, you will be able to do it faster and without fucking up. Then you sell your shitfest to some sucker and build something worth living in.

Easton Young
Easton Young

Every developer in the US. Doesn't matter, stupid people are happy with mass produced garbage anyway.

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

And in the meantime no one can figure out what to do with all the CO2 that trees store as carbon. Stop skimping on wood, it's one of the only resources that we can actually produce more of.

Lucas Carter
Lucas Carter

there are people who don't have their windows open at all times
smh fam tbh

Owen Perez
Owen Perez

More like overengineer.

I think that term "overdesign" suits its better, overengeneering implys more structural stability "than necessery" but current construction schools mostly do bare minimum even with bridges, but make sure to put a lot of gimmicks everywhere and disregard durability as is the MO of all technology today.

When it comes to pouring an RC slab and supports and maybe walls if I dont go with red brick, do you think I could do this on my own with cement bags and a large mixer?

uff! I think this question is beyond my expertise level since concrete curing isnt as simple…you can for sure use other materials aside for red brick for fill in or do entire section with RC bunker style which most currect apartment builds do (they always put external isolation then since RC is cold, 3rd pic right building in this post is all RC on front ).

I think you can do it simply by floor mixers and buckets of concrete, but please stick to low rise builds if you go that way, but thread very carefully since again concrete curing is tricky and you should be able to count on it for structure.

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Ian Evans
Ian Evans

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Liam Wood
Liam Wood

I've been looking at pic related for some time now as a foundation/basement wall material instead of field stone or quarried stone.
I could probably build the cornerstones with these for a single or two story house.
They would of course be mortared with lime.

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Asher Scott
Asher Scott

isolation
for stove
This is unclear do you mean insulation ?
without needing an external supply of air for the stove
You need one or your stove wont function fully and it will suck breathable air out of the room you are heating. I have a tiny dwarf stove and am heating a 100sqft space and have an intake vent that exits my structure.

Sebastian Wright
Sebastian Wright

It loks like the space around those block keys would fit 2x lumber.
If you keep the underframe uncovered then you could frame it in such a way that the floor frame locks into the block keys. You would still want to bolt the frame to the foundation.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(engineering)
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(engineering)
wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_foundation
wikipedia.org/wiki/Shallow_foundation

Cameron Scott
Cameron Scott

If I were to do this, the main building would likely be oversized 18" brick walls with the ground floor joists made of oversize lumber timbers if possible.
If I were to build two stories, I would tie in the brick walls to the floor joists and central support timbers using anchor plates.
I think the concrete bricks are exciting because they can move along their joints as the house settles, preventing major weak points from forming, like I've seen with solid concrete foundations.

David Young
David Young

St. Augustine, FL

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Levi Baker
Levi Baker

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Luke Torres
Luke Torres

Key West, FL

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Lucas James
Lucas James

be more precise about your claims
I was 100% completely precise you braindead nigger.
"above its cost" is called having business, making a profit instead of closing a business.
Yes, and a business that benefits the economy does that using labor. A jewish parasite business does it through economic rent. That's the point. Don't jump into a conversation about economics to spout random idiotic nonsense if you don't know anything about the subject.

Xavier Cooper
Xavier Cooper

Cuba

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Alexander Campbell
Alexander Campbell

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Oliver Morris

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Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

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Angel Cook
Angel Cook

what are those blocks? Ive never seen something like that, is it RC or just concrete?

old South builds are beautiful!

Yes, and a business that benefits the economy does that using labor. A jewish parasite business does it through economic rent.

hey dumbass, is renting a car labour that provides benefit?

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Joshua Thomas
Joshua Thomas

Ive never seen something like that, is it RC or just concrete?
They're basic RC blocks used for quick construction.
They're used heavily by junkyards and soil dealers to contain stock.
My only concern with a block foundation without some sort of rebar is that the blocks will eventually shift, or shift in a natural disaster.
I like the retention geometries cast into the blocks because they should act like the pegs in Grecian columns, which have been proven to last thousands of years.

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Adam Martinez
Adam Martinez

St. Augustine is mostly Spanish and Southern, it is the oldest city built (by Spain) in the continental US (established 1565). You should read the wikipedia article on the city. It's filled with crazy hard to believe historical accounts, but apparently, they're true.

"The Treaty of Paris (1763), signed after Great Britain's victory over France and Spain during the Seven Years' War, ceded Florida to Great Britain in exchange for Cuba and the Philippines. The vast majority of Spanish St. Augustinians left Florida for Cuba, Florida became Great Britain's fourteenth and fifteenth North American colonies, and consequently St. Augustine became a Loyalist haven during the American Revolutionary War."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Augustine,_Florida

Alexander Powell
Alexander Powell

Funny, wherever the Spanish went, they built strong architecture. The Philippines even.

trover.com/vigan-philippines

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

I like Southern architecture too, especially down in the old town in Key West, it's like a whole other world down there.

James Young
James Young

There again, I have a somewhat small sample size of experiences.

Alexander Bailey
Alexander Bailey

My only concern with a block foundation without some sort of rebar is that the blocks will eventually shift, or shift in a natural disaster.

user, those blocks look pretty solid, if they are reinforced you might build a house out of them, ask around, Im not familiar with them but they look promising.

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

I was referencing the more common cinder block foundation.
I would be building this house outside city limits, and would like to be able to do so without having to worry about a quality concrete pour, or dealing with shipping in enough concrete to do the job.
I could likely have the entire foundation shipped on one flatbed.

If I were to use the same blocks for the corner stones, they would be locked into the foundation without having to rely on rebar columns.
I'm sure they're strong enough, because I've seen 15 foot retaining walls made from them, and I've seen them withstand earth movers.

I'll do some math later to see if the retainer geometry can deal with the shear forces generated by an earthquake.
I'm going to guess that they can.

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

I'll do some math later to see if the retainer geometry can deal with the shear forces generated by an earthquake.
It seems that all the math is pointless for the size building I would be constructing.
Kariotis’ research asserts that masonry buildings actually respond differently than the way traditional codes and engineering approaches have assumed. Rather than amplifying the forces of the earthquake lie states, the heavy masonry walls have the effect of dampening the shaking by acting as a "rigid rocking block on a soft soil base."
conservationtech.com/RL's resume& pub's/RL-publications/Eq-pubs/1989-APT-Bulletin/APT_art.htm
archive.is/LyBc9

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