WAS ERNST RÖHM REALLY GAY?

Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

I've heard this claim alot, people say it is true without giving any sources. In wikipedia it is claimed that Ernst röhm was gay, if one takes note of the sources they turn up jewish in some way or form.

Why is it that skinheads / self described fascist claim this? Are there any reliable true sources on this? Video evidence or audio after the Night of the Long knives that claimed this? I can't seem to find anything. Help and user out.

Examples:
Under Röhm, the SA often took the side of workers in strikes and other labor disputes, attacking strikebreakers and supporting picket lines. SA intimidation contributed to the rise of the Nazis and the violent suppression of right-wing parties during electoral campaigns, but its reputation for street violence and heavy drinking was a hindrance, as was the open homosexuality of Röhm and other SA leaders such as his deputy Edmund Heines.[32] In June 1931, the Münchener Post, a Social Democratic newspaper, began attacking Röhm and the SA regarding homosexuality in its ranks and then in March 1932, the paper obtained and published some private letters of his that left no doubt about his homosexuality; these letters were confiscated by the Berlin police back in 1931 and subsequently passed along to the journalist Helmuth Klotz.
Source: Siemens, Daniel (2017). Stormtroopers: A New History of Hitler's Brownshirts. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.
(POST-GERMAN HISTORIAN: ncl.ac.uk/hca/staff/profile/danielsiemens.html)

Hitler was aware of Röhm's homosexuality. Their friendship shows in that Röhm remained one of the few intimates allowed to use the familiar German du (the German familiar form of "you") when conversing with Hitler.
Source: Manvell, Roger; Fraenkel, Heinrich (2010). Goebbels: His Life and Death. New York: Skyhorse (BRITISH PROPAGANDA DIRECTOR: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Manvell
JEWISH HOLLYWOOD AUTHOR: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Fraenkel)

In turn, Röhm was the only Nazi leader who dared to address Hitler by his first name "Adolf" or his nickname "Adi" rather than "mein Führer".
Source: Gunther, John (1940). Inside Europe. New York: Harper & Brothers. (AMERICAN JOURNALIST: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gunther)

Their close association led to rumors that Hitler himself was homosexual.
Source: Knickerbocker, H. R. (1941). Is Tomorrow Hitler's? 200 Questions On the Battle of Mankind. Reynal & Hitchcock. (AMERICAN JOURNALIST: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Renfro_Knickerbocker)

Examples of people saying he was definitely gay:
quora.com/Was-Ernst-Rohm-a-homosexual
ww2f.com/threads/ernst-roehm-gay.1772/
quora.com/Was-Ernst-Rohm-Nazi-leader-openly-gay
reddit.com/r/beholdthemasterrace/comments/78sbgp/this_is_ernst_röhm_he_was_a_gay_nazi_who_got/

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Kempka
youtube.com/watch?v=fodcCkPaDsA

Camden Fisher
Camden Fisher

Like Ernst Zundel said, history has to be doubled checked and re-examined with source critique.

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Jose Foster
Jose Foster

Based

Ayden Wood
Ayden Wood

Most likely not, there's a bunch of claims but no actual evidence. Granted it is true that homosexuals existed back then but knew their place, and wouldn't flout their faggotry like they do today, so it wouldn't be immediately obvious if somebody was queer back then. But still, that just makes it all the more unlikely because where is this information coming from? I know it's not like there was social media back then so there's no pictures of him at a gay bar, but you'd think there'd at least be some kind of evidence. I'm going to say it's possible, but mostly likely just a smear job.

Bentley Martin
Bentley Martin

*double checked

Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks

No direct sources, probably a pink swastika and holocaust porn myth.

Owen Cook
Owen Cook

WAS ERNST RÖHM REALLY GAY?
Literally no reason to think so.

Jackson Sanders
Jackson Sanders

According to Erich Kempka the SS found Breslau SA leader Edmund Heines in bed with an unidentified eighteen-year-old male SA senior troop leader. Because of this it is associated that Ernst Röhm was homosexual because Edmund Heines was Ernst Röhm's deputy of Sturmabteilung.

Source: Kempka, Erich (15 October 1971). "Erich Kempka interview". Library of Congress: Adolf Hitler Collection

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Kempka

Erich Kempka (16 September 1910 – 24 January 1975) was a member of the SS in Nazi Germany who served as Adolf Hitler's primary chauffeur from 1934 to April 1945.

Interesting quote: >Despite his questionable reliability on certain points,[27] many interviewers quote Kempka in their accounts.

Daniel Phillips
Daniel Phillips

I think David Irving speak of this in this video youtube.com/watch?v=fodcCkPaDsA

Jose Reyes
Jose Reyes

sage and report, defamation thread against one of the founders.

Ethan Parker
Ethan Parker

What? He's literally challenging the kike narrative that was of our founders was a fag.

Jace Russell
Jace Russell

Politics is a nasty filthy game regardless of who is trying to do what.

The Night of the Long Knives (German: About this soundNacht der langen Messer (help·info)), or the Röhm Purge, also called Operation Hummingbird (German: Unternehmen Kolibri), was a purge that took place in Nazi Germany from June 30 to July 2, 1934, when Adolf Hitler, urged on by Hermann Göring and Heinrich Himmler, ordered a series of political extrajudicial executions intended to consolidate his hold on power in Germany, as well as to alleviate the concerns of the German military about the role of Ernst Röhm and the Sturmabteilung (SA), the Nazis' own mass paramilitary organization. Nazi propaganda presented the murders as a preventive measure against an alleged imminent coup by the SA under Röhm – the so-called Röhm Putsch.

The primary instruments of Hitler's action, who carried out most of the killings, were the Schutzstaffel (SS) paramilitary force under Himmler and its Security Service (SD) under Reinhard Heydrich, and the Gestapo, the secret police, under Göring. Göring's personal police battalion also took part in the killings. Many of those killed in the purge were leaders of the SA, the best-known being Röhm himself, the SA's chief of staff and one of Hitler's longtime supporters and allies. Leading members of the leftist-leaning Strasserist faction of the Nazi Party, including its figurehead, Gregor Strasser, were also killed, as were establishment conservatives and anti-Nazis, such as former Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and Bavarian politician Gustav Ritter von Kahr, who had suppressed Hitler's Munich Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. The murders of SA leaders were also intended to improve the image of the Hitler government with a German public that was increasingly critical of thuggish SA tactics.

Hitler saw the independence of the SA and the penchant of its members for street violence as a direct threat to his newly gained political power. He also wanted to conciliate leaders of the Reichswehr, the German military, who feared and despised the SA as a potential rival, in particular because of Röhm's ambition to merge the army and the SA under his own leadership. Additionally, Hitler was uncomfortable with Röhm's outspoken support for a "second revolution" to redistribute wealth. In Röhm's view, President Hindenburg's appointment of Hitler as Chancellor on January 30, 1933 had brought the Nazi Party to power, but had left unfulfilled the party's larger goals. Finally, Hitler used the purge to attack or eliminate German critics of his new regime, especially those loyal to Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen, as well as to settle scores with old enemies.[a]

At least 85 people died during the purge, although the final death toll may have been in the hundreds,[b][c][d] with high estimates running from 700 to 1,000.[2] More than a thousand perceived opponents were arrested.[3] The purge strengthened and consolidated the support of the Wehrmacht for Hitler. It also provided a legal grounding for the Nazi regime, as the German courts and cabinet quickly swept aside centuries of legal prohibition against extrajudicial killings to demonstrate their loyalty to the regime. The Night of the Long Knives was a turning point for the German government.[4] It established Hitler as the supreme administrator of justice of the German people, as he put it in his July 13 speech to the Reichstag.

Before its execution, its planners sometimes referred to the purge as Hummingbird (German: Kolibri), the codeword used to send the execution squads into action on the day of the purge.[5]

Levi Carter
Levi Carter

What? You just pasted the wikipedia page for The Night of the Long Knives a commie purge. I have no idea what your point is please explain.

Aiden Robinson
Aiden Robinson

youtube.com/watch?v=fodcCkPaDsA
Check the sources you nut-job, why you eat everything up without checking sources.

Brandon Walker
Brandon Walker

is x gay?
global report

Tyler Ward
Tyler Ward

Most of the so-called psychological analysis of the Nazi leadership was based on (((Freudian psychoanalysis))), and conducted by analysts who had never even met them in person. What do you expect?

Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

I can only assume the people who are posting in this thread are deliberately calling the National Socialist German Worker's Party liars, because they themselves are the ultimate source of the claim regarding Rohm's homosexuality. You can find Goebbels mentioning conversations with Hitler about him being a faggot in his diary (there is no English translation of the stuff before 1939, so you'll need to go to the German edition for the source).
That Röhm was a faggot had been known by the general public of Germany since the scandal broke in 1931, when several of his letters to Karl-Günther Heimsoth were seized by the Berlin police on a tip.

Aaron Anderson
Aaron Anderson

There is no such thing as being gay, it's a social construct.

Leo Sanchez
Leo Sanchez

Said the straight man

Eli Cooper
Eli Cooper

Oh, you know, you don’t know the half of it. Hotler was forced to hurt a friend by someone who had leverage on him. If only he’d been willing to admit he was gay!

Isaiah Mitchell
Isaiah Mitchell

He may not have been gay, but he was still a faggot.
Die Nacht der langen Messer was absolutely necessary.

Connor Moore
Connor Moore

kek

I wouldn't necessarily say he was a faggot, just that he was traitor.

Joshua Clark
Joshua Clark

The real reason he and his group was wacked was because they were communist.

Jose Green
Jose Green

Nah. He just eventually noticed that Hitler wasn’t actually giving anything up when he gave up his ass. Hitler threw a spanner in the works by not having neurotic reactions to traditionally dom/sub positionings.

Wyatt Long
Wyatt Long

Humans do all kinda of shit to prove to themselves and others that their connections are “honest”. That people aren’t being two-faced. I have some of those instincts, but I just let people reassure me straightforwardly. I can hear shit I need to in their word choice. If I can’t, oh well, better to gamble than be neurotic about it. It isn’t possible to control what people keep in their heads.

Owen Campbell
Owen Campbell

Give me source.

Thomas Torres
Thomas Torres

Go back to Cuckchan, 0 sources, just biased opinions from Millenial zoomers who have no connection to Ernst Röhms past. Degrade Zig Forums into oblivion and drag everything to the void.

That's a different topic, I'm interested to find genuine sources that make the claim about Ernst Rohm, so far like in the wikipedia article all of the sources are Jewish propaganda machine sources.

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Joseph Barnes
Joseph Barnes

At least you jews got slightly less stale slides at temple.