Would things be different if America became natsoc instead of Germany?

In an alternate timeline, the American great depression was much worse, making things so expensive that it costed $20 for a loaf of bread in 1920s dollars.

As a result, the American Silver Legion gains popularity with WASPs, from the working class to the remnants of the WASP elite.

This was all in response to to the degeneracy. You see, in the midst of the turmoil, the Jews promoted 2019 levels of degeneracy in 1930s America. Places like New York were infested with hookers, dope fiends, and trannies, and gender fluid faggots.

All that changed when WWI veterans, who sided with Pelley, stormed the White House and executed him. Jews were dragged from New York, forced to dig their own graves, and shot, just as they've done to Whites in Eastern Europe.

Hollywood's producers were replaced with Anglo-Saxon Whites.


Afterward, to prevent invasion from the British Empire, the newly-formed Silver Legion invades Canada and annexes it and removes all the Jews. In response to the atrocities committed against the Jewish people, Britain, Germany, Italy, and the Soviet Union declare war on the Silver Legion of America.

The problem with Nazi Germany is that it wasn't large enough, nor did they have the resources or manpower to sustain itself against the allies. On the other hand, White America would crush ZOG in an open war in an alternate WWII scenario. Top-military strategists said so, when I posed this question.

There never really was any hope Germany could beat the allies at all from the begging.

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German National Socialism can only be enacted by GERMANS. So we would have to get rid of all non-Europeans.
I support this idea.

The American version of it is the Silver Legion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Legion_of_America

Of course things would be different. Very very different. Fascism would have been the world order.

By any measure, it would be different due to literally being different. This has been explored a billion times in fiction, one repeating theme, even if most of them try to portray it is bad, they almost always portray a National Socialist future as far more scientifically and technologically progressive.
This is what we really lost when Germany was defeated.

Interesting I have never heard of them. Am reading up on it.

What is it going to take, I wonder, before we become SERIOUS about these ideas. We are so fucking flighty no wonder people who are serious won't support us.


We need to make an OP about why we are so easy to fracture and why we cannot retain a cohesive fucking unity at any point?

Back then, the US wasn't hit as hard as Germany. That's why the Silver Legion didn't gain any traction. If, however, it was, then White Americans would be right be flocking to them in droves.

At this point, if another economic crisis like that struck the West, Western countries would dissolve into smaller nations. The only thing keeping this shit afloat is economic stability.

Because if you meet about national socialism in public, you'll lose your livelihood. The jews also control all our media, schooling and government. I'm convinced we need ww3 to happen before we can do anything about ZOG.

Israel would be bigger

Society was more open to that back then, before the kike subversion. In those days, you wouldn't get fired for being a fascist.

Yeah, in today's climate, we need another economic crash, global pandemic, or just a good ol' fashioned natural disaster to destabilize the West enough so White people could fight back or form an ethnostate, and one of these HAS to happen in 10-20 years.

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Sometimes that glorious path calls to me.
The path of the People of Light.

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Yep. And yet we still have people on here defending judeo-capitalism 'til its death.

Third position ideals form in a different way. It must be all at once. Gradual change takes too long, and we are an impatient people due to the nature of our worldview and our times. What we need most is persistence and a collective readiness to pounce on the first legitimate opportunity to take power. My best guess is that this will occur during whatever serious economic depression is heading our way, but you can never know for sure. All I know is that there inevitably must be a window of opportunity, and we won't be the only ones trying to seize control.

dumbest argument ive ever read.

I watch Man in High Castle, they obviously try to make out life in the American Reich is horrid where I just see it as blissful!

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Kinda of but the kind of Fascism that would form in the US would be different to German fascism. German Fascism was the invention of Adolf Hitler to fit the needs of the German people post-WW1 who were divided, starving, and in poverty.
The US at that time wasn't like that and American's aren't too excited about getting rid of things Hitler got rid of like Freedom of Speech, so if Fascism rose in America, I'd have to be a very American branch of Fascism. So basically pre-Civil War America with some elements of the 50s thrown in.

No back in the 1940s it wouldn't have been possible with the high amount of pure-bred Anglos and their adherence to "Constitution". Over the years though Germans have mixed into the Anglo stock bringing about the possibility of a new Realm.

The German Broodmare has always been superior to that of European stock. Deutschland über alles.

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If you are too stupid to tell the difference between the perversion that the NEOCohen present as 'national socialism' and the perversion that the muzzie goat/boy fucker present as 'national socialism' on this board
YOU DON'T FUCKING BELONG HERE BECAUSE YOUR IQ IS TOO FUCKING LOW

I don't like Man in a High Castle because there are FAGGOTS in it that didn't get exterminated and are fucking living in the kikes imaginary 'National Socialist' world.
NO PARASITES ALLOWED.

GIBE GIBE

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Another Jew promoted thread for the stupid stormfag

America couldn't have gone NatSoc. There were too many ethnicities and Americans in general were/are too financial, ie kiked, to embrace a racial philosophy.

Just curious, why are you tying these things together.

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Spoiler your chimpanzees user.

I know. The only way an organization like the Silver Legion could've taken over America was—as I stated—if the economic situation was so bad that White Americans couldn't afford a loaf of bread. This would've only happened if Americans had to pay $20 US for bread in 1930s wages.

The Jews also would've pushed present day degeneracy in 1930s American cities. William Dudley Pelley wouldn't have beaten Franklin Roosevelt in an election. Under these conditions, he'd have an army of White Americans who would storm the White House and kill that crippled commie fuck.

I do agree. The only The Silver Legion could've gotten into power was if the Jews became arrogant, overconfident to the point where the thought they were invincible in some alternate timeline. In this timeline, Germany's economy would've been stable.

However, Jews never become so overconfident that they think their invincible. They're careful, cautious, and prefer the long game. We're the only ones who seem to take our mortality for granted, I'm afraid.

I prefer the short game where we kill all of the subhuman mortal enemies and we are finally done with their 'games' and their 'entertainment'.

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lols.

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Yes, simply because if we had become our own people, instead of a financial colony of City of London, we wouldn't have interfered with troubles overseas. At least not on the same side we wouldn't. There wouldn't be an invasion either, unlike 1812, because we would be too strong and too dispersed. I think the Anglosphere would be healthier for it, and I think there's reason to believe Central and South America would be too.

There is no reasonable context where the US would have been NS pre-war.

This for the most part. Maybe if the Bonus Army had been an actual communist rebellion and contained a substantial number of non-whites, creating backlash especially among Southerners already accustomed to Jim Crow.
That said, if the US did go fascist it had a third of world GDP and was fully self-sufficient in every resource but rubber. Especially with some concessions to Japan to get them on our side (Philippines) odds of survival and even victory are decent.
Nukes might be harder to come by though.

Reminder that paid shills are allowed to spam tens of thousands of times a day, but you can only report 3 posts every 15 minutes.

Allowed to post here.

Ok, the U.S. National Socialist.

To begin with:

If the jews were an evil organisation, more or different as anything else it would have ended with Trump.

Or you say it would not?

National Socialism is all-encompassing. Enormously radical. While that about the jews and many more things.

How is this ever going to bring anything? Unless you want your own business. In fact your own country.

Compared to how things are now this objective is not going to bring anything. In any case. If you would want to willfully scam everyone, maybe it will seem it will.

In that case some victims now:

So please a reply to this

We are all making a mistake here. Let's say hes a lefty. Still it does not mean you have the same interests. Which is all a bit difficult now. Though all these dogmas, what has anyone got to do with it? Where they fail?

But answer this

I'm not a jew and I have no real interests about jew.

You even calling me that. I now need to holocaust you. Not quite a monstrous post this. Looks deceive

>calling me a jew at this point

[not exaggerating one can take things too far as well, or either I forgive]

Reply link doesn't work in the other post.

I'm not a jew and I have no real interests about jews.

You even calling me that. I now need to holocaust you. Not quite a monstrous post this. Looks deceive

>calling me a jew at this point

[not exaggerating one can take things too far as well, or either I forgive]

Again the reply link

But please an answer to this

There’s nothing to answer. It reads like a cross between a true word salad and a half-baked AI’s ramblings. There’s nothing being said there. There’s no question.

No, that is total nonsense. And everyone can see that.

This reply link I have no idea there is nothing wrong with my post. That it is greentext instead of a link.

You don't even know which bathroom to use>>13394973

Ok, it looks like it you ARE a scam. Really, I don't know what type you are. Could be I'd like to holocaust you right now.

What is this with reply links? Scamming about some more?

I hope everyone sees this conversation, last few posts

What is I make some threads about what I mean?

But first I must hear that they won't be deleted.

Or there could be some stupid reason we could discuss.

So please reply to this.

>What is

*What if

I have a 1933 edition of his book No More Hunger (pic related) before it got zogged. Pelley's Silver Legion looked nothing like National Socialist Germany. Pelley was heavily in favor of USSR-style nationalization of all private assets in America run by a theocratic CEO, so the US wouldnt be democratic in a sense, however all citizens would be shareholders in the great corporation so they would vote on who the CEO is. He even promoted a yang gang style UBI proposal (Pelley is more generous than Yang, his proposal was $86 a month in 1933 or about $1500~ a month in modern USD) because it is his belief that the hunger principle (having to work to not starve to death) is against God and biblical values to keep it brief. However for those that would like more than this bare minimum, the resources allocated to you by the state or "corporation" in this case would go up. Farmers and miners would have the most as they take the resources directly from nature/God's bounty. Because all people in the state essentially just have a chequebook with a credit limit set by the state each month Pelley figured this would also be the end of money but really he just predicts what we do with modern credit cards instead of cash.

Pelley was a racist but he was pro-segregation as well, not genocide. He mentions what are called Beth Havens, which are basically labor camp cities where the mostly useless assets of society (as he specifies, southern negroes, lazy people, jews, the disabled, gypsies, Mexicans, and the mentally ill) are segregated to serve as a work force for the most menial, low IQ tasks possible. They are given a state dividend just like everyone else's $86 a month, however theirs is reduced and can never go up.

Pelley's America is heavily inspired by Marxism and christian teachings because he was a theocratic communist before he had a near death experience and became fashy if I'm remembering correctly. He is staunchly more left wing than the NSDAP. They also wouldn't be invading anybody since he's not an imperialist.

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For yes, certainly. Of brain is hurt.

The reality is that plenty can be done about ZOG on a hyper-local, clandestine basis. The rub is that it will take real risk of prison time and death, the latter of which may be preferable to the former. Being openly National Socialist and meeting up in this climate is the absolute worst idea in the world.

The real problem is every one in the country who is "right wing" is essentially a shrieking harpy letting out blood curdling screams about "nazi islamo-fascism", democrats being the real racists, faggots being "natural conservatives", the satanic origins of environmentalism, and how much better Iran would be with democracy and miniskirts.

The unprecedented information about local subversives and widespread availability of weapons are completely wasted on this dog shit country.

What a stupid question. Of course things would be different is we lived in an alternate history!
Idiot.

There would be no fucking invasion from the UK, idiot. The UK cannot conduct a massive invasion of a country that dwarfs it in military might, resources, and manpower over an ocean 5,000 miles wide!
Gods, people who don't understand basic military concepts should not be allowed to post about military history!

This is idiotic and represents your hopeless misconceptions about world politics at this time. Jesus Christ.

If America had become Fascist in 1929, then the world would just sit there and get over it. Just like they sat there and got over it when Italy became Fascist or when Germany became Fascist or when Spain became Fascist or when Portugal became (sort of) Fascist. They wouldn't conduct a massive and impossible to achieve invasion because this isn't HOI4 and you don't know jack shit about politics or military history. You fucking idiot.

The only thing you got right was

>Of brain is hurt.

It's just like you say it. This is all your business not mine.

(Me)
>It reads like…
Don't start interfering with mine.

Or better even away with this * . Because of this I doubt whether or not I should really take you seriously. Could be you are a mod or talk to them.

But a reply please, this is wasting peoples time, effort and morals.

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I didn't really make threads so far. Threads are deleted here, so I would not start it. I am or can not be intended here in any way.

I would have to start referring to another board. And then back to this board.

Did you have a point or were you simply begging for a (you)?

By the way, for those few, those precious few of us who do actually care about history, please look up Huey Long. He was one of those men who was fascist in all but name and yet actually came very close to running for president (btw, he was a state governor).
His ideas were absolutely third positionist and he openly opposed both parties and their corruption, was very racial, and anti-semitic. Naturally he was assassinated by a jew in 1935.
Funny how that works…

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America's brand of fascism I see as follows.
1) the president would be given the power of all branches of government, but would still need to be elected
2) the government would take a carrot and stick approach to controlling Corporations, where they would be punished for acting against the national interest and rewarded for progressing it.
3) 13/14 through 19th amendments would be repealed.

Something people tend to forget was how libertarian America was back then. We didn't have an income tax until 1915.

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Most White Americans have at least partial German ancestry. The Mid West is practically German clay.

It is remarkable how that does work, isn't it. I was talking with people the other day about the fact that DNA fulfills its programming and that there is no such thing as 'individualism'. If people could just understand that DNA ALWAYS fulfills its programming we might finally be able to get our people to understand the jew. Orange trees don't suddenly start bearing apples. They always do exactly what their genetic program specifically states.

I know. Only the kikeniggerFED's talk about how Amerimuts inhabit the entire USA. I am 100% German and my family has been in the USA practically since it was discovered. Still 100% German.

Two years after the kikeniggers really got their hands on the US Government. They have been running it for over 100 years. Amazing that it takes that long to run this beautiful nation into the ground.

Natsoc Germany was lighting in a bottle, it was the first and only time the humanrace tryed to throw off the shackles of Jewery and start a new civilzation, that would have set Man's reach for the stars. It failed, but hit so hard and fast, the embers still burn where it left it's mark.

But there no such thing's as Beer Halls, today. This is pretty much what we have now. Fucking rice burner boards. And how long before this shit is gone? Fuck am proply being spooked right now, logged on some file, then I get kys 2 in the head.

Burgerland is no where near the state Germany was in before Hitler tryed to help his people and race. Fuck, German's where eating there Zoo's to stay alive. Not only that, the world wasn't a consumerist hellplane back then, man wanted more!

Why do you think Nazi's are still the big bad evil guys, even to this very day in Jewywood? (((They))) will never allow that shit to happen again, its why goverments bail out banks, its why (((Google))) and (((Amazon))) and the (((Rest))) of big business, don't really pay taxs. It's just bread and circuses for us goy, till they either breed us into fucking mutts, or mass civil wars weakness our race to extinction.

When the good goy of the world, stop worshipping money, and it (((God))) maybe then something will stir the people of the West. Until then keep tuning into this wild ride.

Sieg Heil

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Jews have had their hands in the United States since its founding (see Haym Salomon en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haym_Salomon ) But the subversion didn't really begin to accelerate until after Eastern European Jewish mass emigration in the 1880s, and then of course since 1913 on.

Because deracination and fundamentalist capitalism go hand-in-hand.

I think you mean they got there foot in the door. They didn't have full control america back then. ie. Walt Disney was an open anti-Semite and still built the largest media company, he could do that if Kikes were in full control.

Welcome to /poljidf

My knowledge of Pelley and the Silver Legion isn't great. They were inspired by the victories of Hitler and Mussolini, so if they failed in gaining control of their respective countries it might cause less respect for non-Anglos, especially if we were at war with them. This could lead to WASP suspicion and discrimination of Catholics and non-anglos, causing them to turn their loyalties more towards their motherlands. Additionally this would cause the problem of Latin American countries, with their own nationalist Catholic factions waxing strong at the time, becoming alienated from the US. It's important to remember that many of them were still white and wealthy at this time. There's also France, Spain and Portugal to remember.

Now the US looks less like a unassailable island and more like a beseiged fortress with enemies within and without. If no other countries join them, they'll join against them like a domino effect to quickly end the war and regain access to the US economy, as well as carve out pieces for themselves. So, the US will be eventually overcome. The Soviets take Alaska, the islands are split up and Japan takes a good chunk if they decide to join. The upside is, with the Jews gone, the US is quickly able to fix it's post war economy, though the relatively undevastated Europe is still the economic center of the world.

White people were still around 1/3rd of the world population back then, so many felt they had less to loose by fighting against each other for their own ethnic interests. Now that we're all equally under siege, we are becoming united as a race. For every closed door there's an open window.

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It is a political party you big fag.

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Hitler's National Socialism has basically gone through the three stages of truth:

#1 First it is ridiculed

During the time of the Weimar Republic, when the NSDAP was trying to gain power, the Jewish press was mocking Hitler and making caricatures of the people involved and the movement itself

#2 It is violently opposed

From street brawls by the communist KPD, to coming into power and being violently opposed from the outside during World War II to finally being destroyed (in its original manifestation) by the Allies of World War II.

#3 It is accepted as being self-evident
This is where we're at now. After over 70 years of postwar rule, with its social order as contrasted with pre-war Natsoc Germany's, it's clear that the better side did not win out. Now the question is, how does one get all or most of humanity to accept what is clearly self-evident? This is the fundamental question of our time.

sucks, i know.
but seriously though, pure europeans are better than mutts, irregardless of where the mutt came from.

Why would anyone want a fascist government in the first place?

Considered how the word fascism is interpreted now. There is more then one choice about how to interpret fascism.

At least: Fascism from faces. Also the symbol. I can't find the fascist symbol I am used to. Only in this flag. A bundle of branches, like from a tree used to either do school corporal punishment with like used to exist.

Or to sweep with. Like with a broom.

To me it seems people want to restrict themselves. Become poorer in a number of areas. Like erotisism, less immigrants- and in a sense of a less friendly policy towards Foreign nations, foreigners, less of an international position that is given. Though it is not an only option that immigrants are taken into the country itself.

How will it work out on money? A more spartan lifestyle, also for health. Though here lies a great problem a misinterpretation, lightly said.

All in all how it is pictured, it can be different. No one would probably choose fascism as it is regarded now. In no way such case. No one disadvantages self.

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That would be awesome! That way, the anglos would be redpilled and would accept their Aryan brothers (hispanics) rather than trying to (((D&C))) the Aryan race. God in Valhalla knows Hispanicsby definition are Aryan. DEUS VULT!

IRONIC SHITPOSTING IS STILL SHITPOSTING user

I wasn't being ironic, you filthy kike

Go into the street you faggot and ask for a natsoc vote then. The world thinks altright cucks are Nazi ffs, you think actually NatSoc ideolgy is allowed?

It I beileve can only be birthed through the same conditions as before, the breaking point of a Western Country. But 70+ years of (((Victory))) on top of that, is a different beast in itself.

That why you don't get a choice, it's fasism.
Heiled and checked

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I LOVE BEING A FASCIST AND ARYAN!

Thank you both of you for standing up to the kikes and saying the truth!

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If you won't do something for your people, who will? I know people around where I am and I might just do that user.

Disgusting…fucking spics are 10-30% nigger.
Fucking DISGUSTING, user.

whiter than you, mr. shekelberg

Not even close whyte boi.
I am 100% European. You are part nigger, amerindian and whatever else felt like fucking your mom the day you were conceived.

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Eventually, any non-White admixture will be able to be erased using CRISPR.

I hope that Russia tries to invade the United States so i can rig some explosives down my street and take out a patrol and loot myself a AK 107 and a bunch of other cool shit.

You're putting so much obvious effort into this pathetic shill, beaner. What do you expect to accomplish?
You will never be White.
Go away. Find a spot on the internet where you can be with your people, and good luck to you in the coming race war you created by flooding our borders with your shitty skin, and filthy, degenerate culture, nigger.

Except that the soul can't be modified using CRISPR user. Subhumans will always be animals and they will never be White.
Remember the analogy of mixing races where race mixing was like taking two 5 gallon buckets of paint and mixing them together…it is not something that CRISPR is going to be able to 'undo'. Mitigate maybe, but just like GMO's you are talking about the destruction of your DNA FOR-E-VER.

I dunno, I think we're just scratching the surface of what genetic editing can possibly do. Stuff that would make something like Aktion T4 look like stone age methods in comparison someday.

Hmmm do you like the things that the jews have done with DNA so far? Like GMO's etc? Do you think they are improving the planets DNA or causing it to degenerate?

If you turned non-Whites White with CRISPR or any other type gene-editing, you wouldn't get Western culture. For example, if you turned East Indians into Nordic or Celtic analogues, well, you'd just get a first world version of East India and vice versa.

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That's actually not such a bad thing.

I'm not against CRISPR or genetic engineering, I just have mixed feelings about it. It's just that these super Whites created wouldn't create a whole culture. Instead, they'd build off of the previous culture that came before.

Essentially, it's a question of why reinvent the wheel. You have perfectly good foundation to build off of in front of you.

I don't want to see White Europeans taking 1 billion shits per day in the streets user…fuck there are a lot of things I want to see in this life, but that isn't one of them.

This.

Not entirely, but the Jews don't deal in much of gene editing science, at least not first hand. My worry is how it will be applied, not its possible amazing potential. Since there is a wide gap between what can possibly be done, and what is allowed to actually be done.

Why would that happen if they also have the capability, and ingenuity to have modern plumbing available for all those 1 billion?

Deus Vult my Aryan brother!

Wellllll how do you know they won't use it to turn you into niggers? They could lower your IQ as easily as they could raise a nigger.

The day when 'aryan' has no fucking meaning at all…that is where we are headed.

That is true, but then if all Whites in the world are turned into niggers, then the Jews will have no one to parasite off of, and end up killing each other.

I think they planned for that already. Besides you don't understand how debased their desires are, they run towards things like child rape, drinking blood and human sacrifice; all of which they will be able to do to (your) nigger offspring as well.

Aryans United. Shall never be defeated!

Viva Hispano-America!