I'm not european and I'm trying to learn about the whole Brexit thing. What's Zig Forums's brits consensus regarding the EU and Brexit overall?
From what I've asked elsewhere (even the whiny as shit r/socialism), the mainstream/identitarian/sjw left are in favor of leaving the EU, but they oppose the current brexit campaign, mostly because, according to them, it merely benefits the far right.
I wanna hear Zig Forums's brits opinion on this one.
The EU is an abomination controlled by neolibs that forces its retarded economy policy upon all member states. The sooner it dies the better. Any leftist who supports the EU is either controlled opposition or flat out ignorant.
Landon Bell
For more information on why the EU is dogshit, pdfs related.
Jason Jackson
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Angel Moore
I'm not bongistani either, but I go with Corbyn's opinion on Brexit: The EU has neolib restrictions that would impede a Labour government in nationalizing or regulating key sectors of the economy, and its domination by zealous neolib ideologues means constant struggles against EU-imposed fiscal goals of austerity and wealthfare: jacobinmag.com/2018/05/corbyn-labour-eu-single-market-economic-policy
Aside from this goal-oriented point Corbyn can openly discuss, there is the subtler praxis point, that by allowing the Tories/UKIP to initiate Brexit, it leaves Corbyn's hands clean of involvement in the eyes of delusional shitlibs, in spite of the readily available fact that Corbyn's public statements and voting record alike have been completely anti-EU since before the UK even joined.
Brexit/UK aside, regarding the EU itself, there is a very slim chance it could be reformed into something worth saving, as through activism such as DiEM25. While I doubt the EU bureaucracy is wise enough to bow to DiEM25's suggestions before their organization is imploded by Frexit under a future Melanchon or Le Pen presidency, the mere existence of DiEM25 is necessary precisely to illustrate how unreasonable the EU's bureaucracy is.
Austin Baker
Neither option is worthy of support and leftismos supporting either choice are imbeciles letting themselves be drawn into the competition between protectionist national capitalists and globally-minded international capitalists. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.
Jonathan Murphy
Brexit means Brexit
Wyatt Long
This, its best to stay neutral with this one
Dylan Lee
The continued existence of the EU and its misdeeds is, regardless of porkies who are for or against it, a persistent lightning rod for ill will against leftists, and source of energy for the far-right, because the EU is (fairly and unfairly) seen by most people across the political spectrum as a project of the left.
The sooner the EU is destroyed or reformed, the better will be the public impression of the left, the more right-populism will deflate, and the easier it will be for us to work on more ambitious goals.
Nathaniel Reed
Ah yes, the tale as old as time. First we waste our energy on intra-bougie bitchfights by allying with one group of capitalists to defeat another group of capitalists, then we can proceed with "more ambitious goals", whatever they might be! A classic talking point of reformists and opportunists who'd rather engage in capitalist politics than organizing the class.