Faith in Islam is fading among mulsims

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Lack of faith among ostensible muslims has fallen to 13% overall and 18% among under thirties.

How has this come about? Remember that Mohammed was raised by jews and Christians and always protected them and that he drank alcohol and never demanded that women wear the veil.


It appears that the real problem in islam is the demand for obedience to mullahs who refuse to explain their dictums even based on their own purported theology.

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Yes! Now they can be turned into brainless, rootless consumers just like the rest of us!

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This is actually an interesting problem for Muslims: many of the "migrant" couples who decide to raise children in the west fail to realize that without the theocratic protections afforded by living in desert shithole countries, that the devoutness of their successive generations will inevitably erode and succumb to the pressures of living in secular societies. Speaking from experience, many self-proclaimed Muslims that I have come in to contact with (as a university student) have absolutely no qualm with smoking, drinking, or even eating pork. Hardly any of them actually pray 5 times a day. On the other hand, their attitudes towards homosexuality and all of its variations are still negative.

In any case, the gradually weakening resolve of Islam can only work to the advantage to the rightful inhabitants of the west.

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This. Even Abrahamism in its various forms is better than secular materialism and soulless atheism.

It's because a lot of these turd worlders are being exposed to criticism of their Jew cult and so inevitably some of them leave the flock.

Yet all the Turks living in Europe still haven't managed to turn into civilized people four generations in.

It's not the criticism it's the lure of hedonism and degeneracy. Once they become older and realize how much of a fucked up idiot they've been they'll radicalize to wash their sins away in the blood of kuffar.

lurk moar if you think western degenracy can turn mudshits into aryans

because you posted gay nazis, im not even gonna read your post

That's not what I said you coon.

Devil dubs!

I like the libertarian perspective of "maybe your wife is fucking your boss, but iPhones are cheaper!"

Great, so we get all the genetic pollution of islamic immigration, but none of the benefits of their patriarchal religion. Fucking perfect.

Atheism is just another religion with their dogma set.

Muh SIMS

They use it like jews use theirs. They discard it when it is inconvenient.

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I think I might be even more afraid if these savages if they don't have the threat of Islam to keep them from doing bad stuff.

Nigger, Muhammad was a child molester. Fuck off with defending that pedo.

fallen risen?

Rather then Muslims taking the West, the West has taken the Muslims.

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>No one ITT seems to remember (((Dr. Steinlight's))) flamboyant proclamation
Relevant listening material.
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Good. Once Abrahamism dies maybe we can get serious about the JQ.

It's the final form of the Jewish mentality stripped of its religious garb

Don't be. Islam doesn't keep them from doing anything bad to you.

nothing to worry about goyim, go back to sleep. dont mind the rape gangs

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'She' looks a bit manly too me tbh. Bit of an old hag too. Real Aryans get married young

Exactly this. Its the Jewish nihilistic attitude cultivated into a final form

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No it won't. They are will just turn into leftist faggots mindless consumers like everyone else. This does not help us at all.

Shitskins being dumber than Whites is all known but what's worrying about removing religion is that it makes easy access to degeneracy, more than you think. At least muslims are protesting against the UK brainwashing kids into thinking they are gay or lgbtbbq, and other insane bullshit like aromatic demisexual. But the last thing I heard was them stopping protests- I hope that just fake news and they're still doing it.
Now imagine if kikes make the already dumb shitskins even dumber by removing their religion that guides them on what not to do. Jew's end goal is to have mindless factory workers, that's why they want more shitskins, who are already retarded, even more retarded. Hell in generations they can convince them that they're Gods by using giant TV screens and playing a bit of dress up with special effects; telling them that they have to work harder for food to rain down and to worship them more- jews might occasionally start shit up for entertainment. And since they never thought of freedom back then, niggers definitely won't have the brain power to fight back.

Why would you tell two men to have sex?

I'm not that worried, it'll take Arabs quite a long while to rediscover their paganism. I know in Indonesia and in Iran that process is happening far quicker but I'm most worried about the Arabs and the Turks. I guess the only good thing is that racialized Arab polytheism would mean the extermination of the jews in the ancient temple to Shalem (modern day Jerusalem) but it'd also awaken many more ancient powers the Aryan race hasn't had to face in many millennia.

Nigger I've grew up among French arabs( morrocan scum, algerian filth) for years, theses people do the worst things you can think of, they absolutely don't care about their religion, saying you're muslim is more of being a part of a group, because if you're not you are going to be alienated.

None of them would have any faith at all if they weren't murdered for leaving their 'religion'.

How could they get MORE degenerate? All semites are the filthiest mongrels that have ever roamed the planet.

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When 'aryan' means subhuman shitskin.

This would involve mudshits 'thinking' and we know that they are just NPC placeholders not real human beings.

Do not trust lower races, they are all absolute scum.

Yeah I guess so. I just thought, if (((they))) made shitskins more retarded than they are now, then we would be truly fucked. I also had in mind that religion makes them a little bit smarter (don't trust women, kill all fags etc.), you know the natural shit that's there so we don't have the chaos we have right now, especially after fucking generations of humans learning off of others.
Also I thought of the survey of 90% of muslims believing in shariah law in mind when writing my post. But I forgot about that third worlds have internet too and didn't really think much of what they searched regularly (I just thought they scammed people with spamming and viruses). I knew I can count on Zig Forums to learn something new.

If all goes to shit and the shitskins (featuring jews) vs White men meme happens, then at least we have chances of building nukes from sticks and stones. Or survive somewhere underground and hidden, then take back our land and genocide kikes for good. hopefully.

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No they will always be golem of the Jew

I don't agree with you on that, atheist arabs are still a threat to our racial purity. Sure you get fewer suicide bombers, but you get more Rooshes and the like fucking white women.

Apart from and - you're not just wrong, you're stupid.

You're all muslim-tier brainlets if you think the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Revive old irrelevant shit. Hurry Ivan? Putin’s mad! Muh rubles.

No. Mohammad was raised pagan.
No, you're just making shit up now.

It's as of your entire knowledge of islam and mohammad was gleaned from a 1988 Ford Bronco service manual…

Knew a couple of American born "Muslims" in college. They smoked weed, drank beer, fucked women. They basically said it as their ethnicity and did not give one shit about religion.

One more time, for the hard of thinking:

ISLAM IS NOT A JEWISH ANYTHING

Read this anons post:


All former transgressions will be forgiven, and entry to paradise is guaranteed, if the muslim martyrs himself while taking out allah's enemies.

Rubles!!!!!!! Would you fuck putins pussy?

Muhammad heard about the Jewish and Christian faith, and appropriated the stories as reference for his own make belief garbage.

Alright, spongebob…

Lack of belief is not a belief.

It's the islam that makes them do bad stuff. Bad by our standards, righteous by theirs.

Only the muslim kids.
It is just imagination, kikes don't own or control islam.

Kikes don't own or control islam.

Alright, hillary

The average muslim kid is just like the stereotypical western kid raised in the suburbs of a major city. It doesn't matter what race he belongs, they all listen to the same shitty mainstream music, play videogames all day long, smoke weed (arab expats are major pot smokers). It doesn't surprise me that they're not as religious as their parents used to be.

Western kids who become 'born again' don't usually make up for their sins with biblical violence…

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I called it, I've been collating data which presaged this for years.

Currently white “conservatives” have a birthrate of 2.7, white liberals 0.9, jews 0.8, hispanics 1.7, blacks 1.2, and “others” 1.3. The only demographic in any industrial nation which is breeding at or above replacement level are right wing whites in America. That is why they are so desperate to import more non-whites, without that importation by 2050 America would be 75% white again and the vast majority would be voting so "conservatively" that the GOP would not have been politically viable by the 80s. Similarly we see fecundity of shitskins tank when they are imported into Europe, after a single generation it is down to 1.6 which is little better than the native population as an aggregate. Certainly the cause seems to be hedonism and distraction of all types even abstract intellectual distractions we don't commonly consider hedonism. Remember that in the past most leisure activity was social and thus it would introduce young men and women with one another increasing the rate of contact between compatible mates. Remember than in the past society coerced them into breeding and caring for the offspring. Remember that in the past there was no option to engage in regular sexual activity(not counting sodomy ect) without the possibility of procreation. In the paleoenvironment selective pressure did not strongly apply to hedonism as it did not impinge upon fecundity; not only were ancillary distractions rare and expensive due to the material poverty but what distractions did exist where tied to familiar and community life which to an extent facilitated reproductive activity rather than interfere with it.
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However there are also other behavioral predispositions besides hedonism that play into reproductive behaviors and also that in the past children provided financial security and thus were not detrimental to the long term prosperity of the individual. Those "conservative" whites live in America where food is cheap, they live in rural areas were free distraction is plentiful, they have more STEM degrees than liberal whites both per capita and in total, they have more disposable income than liberal whites and thus could buy more distractions. Yet they are breeding while all others are not, why is that? Because most of them are the descendants of cruel, taciturn populations: Cavaliers, German Mercenaries exiled after the 30 years war, expats of all sorts ex. They are naturally brutal people with inherent predispositions towards an insular religiosity, clannishness, stocism, racism, and hatred of all sorts. They are the strong ones, they are ones who have reject modernity as a matter of course because it is eminently natural for them to do so, they cannot accept modernity no matter how much society demands them to do so. The use the fruits of modern technology be feel little interest in the behaviors associated with it. If it wasn't for the importation of hundreds of millions of shitskins this situation would have been a boon not a curse. Our race would be purged of the weak in a far more complete and merciless than any eugenics program could have managed, because natural selection via the voluntary suicide of all libtards, pussies, faggots, and hedonists would over generations have scoured their genes from the breeding population. And still is in the white rural areas, this division always existed in white populations but now it has effectively created too distinct populations with minimal gene transfer, this is the what the beginning speciation looks like.

We've seen bullshit like the libtards before, the Cathars were accepting of homosexuality, vice of all sorts, and even murder. They encouraged people not to breed, and thought that because the world was filthy and fallen nobody should have children and that no authority should control them because it was temporal, except for the Cathar Elect of course. Sound familiar? How many times has a libtard bitched to you about overpopulation and how you are selfish for bringing children into a world where they suffer, you are selfish for not adopting a little nignog because muh overpopulation, you are selfish for doing anything biologically adaptive and placing your family before shitskins you've never met. And when you point out that we could just stop feeding the shitskins and billions would die off in the first ten years they have no material rebuttal they and only sputter and stammer "W-W-WACIST!"

This is the same sickness we as a race have always had. The Catholic Church organized the extermination of all adult Cathars under the request of France and the German states because these faggots were trying to destroy society. But they didn't purge enough it seems, the Cathars were never that big and the Inquisition was created to prevent another heresy of that sort. And it did, and it only cost 4,500 lives at most over an 800 year period to do it. The Inquisition essentially invented modern investigative law because they weren't a secular court looking for scapegoats to throw to the outraged mob. They were actually trying to stop heresy.

But it was a mistake and yes any NatSoc plan of forcing these fags to act like humans would also be a mistake. For too long these parasites have survived off of our cultural largesse when we compelled them not to be maladaptive pieces of shit. We should just let all those who don't have a predisposition to survive die off, ZA VINAL ZOLUTION IV YOU VILL!

Remember the little girl who started crying when Erdogan told/asked her if she would die for her nation? Just like all the European little girls that our President has told they must die for their nation as well. Not the big fat parasitic male deviant jew fuck leaders that have to 'die for their nation' but the little girls and children. Totally like European kids /s

BWAHAHAHAHA…thank God they are naturally going extinct.

They know that themselves. Why do you think they weaponized the educational system. It's to turn well reared conservative children into their ideological sons and daughters.

To bad politics are genetically determined.

It is possible to coerce behavior, but all the data implies it requires far more draconian control and really needs the environment itself to be physically reinforcing the coercion to make it work simply by making alternatives unavailable. And the second the pressure slips then the suppressed behaviors become expressed. In the current environment they liberals have already eaten through all the whites who were vulnerable and now the younger generations are only more "liberal" because they include spics and niggers as well as biased sampling in favor of urban areas which is readily apparent as their data doesn't predict actual sentiment.

Ironically if it wasn't for the importation of tens of millions of shitskins into our empires this would work to our advantage in the long term as it would effectively sterilize anybody with a predisposition or even lack of outright disgust towards towards what we define as "liberal behavior" far more thoroughly than any campaign of sterilization we might enact. If we had total political control the kikey faggots and libtards among the whites would scatter for cover like roaches the second we started hunting them down. But when given the "choice" to kill themselves they do so joyfully even as they themselves bitch about "muh heartless corporate modern world".

But they still push islam on their children and inevitably some of them will become funadmentalists. So this is a bunch of #notallmuslims bullshit.

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mfw you don't understand that it is a theocracy (state/semitic rulership agenda) and not an issue of 'religion' or morality (something they cannot possess anyway because of who they are as a people).

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The unfaithful cultural muslims are dangerous muzzies just the same.

Without Islam my people are defenceless. With Islam I can kill evil whitey and get away with it.

Arabs keep the Turks in check and torture and suicide bomb them constantly.

*back history* Turks are the descendants of genghis khan and raped and murdered 10s of millions of greeks and are basically spell the end of white europe. only arabs of all the people on the earth manage to troll them back with good old islam.

This pretty much sums it all up. The semites make the 'moral law' and then they use that 'moral law' as a weapon for murder, theft, torture, oppression, homosexuality, incest, rape, pedophilia, usury, etc etc etc…but you have to be the one who 'makes up the rules for everyone else' before you can play this fun game of theocratic world domination.

THE VERY SECOND A PEOPLE REALIZES THAT YOU ARE ONLY MAKING UP THE RULES THAT BENEFIT YOU AND ALLOW YOU TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER; IT IS ALL OOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRR FOR YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE

Death couldn't come soon enough for these faggots.

Judaism is the true path. Convert, bitches.

I knew this guy that had five university degrees, including his doctorate in religious studies and ethnobotany. He was a totally rabid Antifa style asshole. Before he finally became indignant with me for being a fascist antisemite, I got quite a bit of info and book suggestions from him. He learned this ancient arabic, I guess aramaic so he could read the pre islamic literature of the arabian peninsula. It was pagan shit. He went there with much anticipation, but was disgusted in the end. He claimed it was the must cretinous dreck imaginable.

The true path to death.
FTFY

Could you post your source for that, I'd like to read a bit more about that data. Or what terms to google to pull up the result I guess I haven't really seen the birth rates broken down like that before.

I've seen you here before riffing off on this material. You're one of the most thoughtful and well read posters here. I've already done a fair amount of reading on the English Revolution and it seems clear to me going back to Henry VII establishing the Tudors etc to the Hanoverian dynasty. But the true history of the Guerre de Trente Ans still defies understanding to me, particularly in its results. I know something very big, very important came out of it but what that was is too complex and confused to make sense to me…yet. I was wondering if there were any books you could recommend to me on it that would act as a key to opening up the doors of enlightenment to me on it. Thx.

Have you read the korran?

Parts of it. But it is not 'for Europeans' as it says inside it that it is only for the Arab people ONLY since all other nations (people of God) 'had a book' already. Its purpose was so that they (Arabs) would not be judged without guidance by God. To me it is basically gibberish (probably because it was written for mongrel arabs and not Europeans). In many ways the text I was raised with make the most sense, followed closely by European pagan texts which make references to things that are important to European DNA…and then philosophy, poetry and other great works like Mein Kampf come after that…and somewhere down in the 'gibberish monkey speech' section is the Koran. Niggers don't have literature so at least I don't have to read anything that might be a product of their minds.

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Arabs are just lazy sandniggers on welfare in their homelands that do nothing but just do exactly just that. You think the sandniggers are any different in than in the west?

You're a fucking dumb nigger. That's a women, and a beautiful one at that.

How do they know this?

It's my understanding that Muslim kill apostates. (people who leave the faith) so I would imagine they don't voice their doubts.

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Mudslimes must still be killed for not being white. And all whites converted to islam must be killed for being race traitors.
All women must be enslaved and beaten, no matter what is one's beliefs though. This truth is universal, and the mudslimes nailed it.

Whites need some kind of new Pharaonic religion with a Godhead that preaches ancestor worship and racial solidarity.

Wow. Modern western culture really is a mind virus. They still all have to go back.

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Not that user, but a historyanon, jstor.org/stable/4545974?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
tldr - pretty much the first example of a european jewish world war…best sources to go on it are ones like i just linked you, from da kikes own mouth! I'm starting to believe every single fucking war in history that had "religious tolerance" as a motive had a jew behind it, no edgelord shitlord on it either, prolly read over 200 books on european history alone.

Please give an example of atheist dogma.

You disingenious piece of shit. Atheism is not a "lack of belief", but the belief there is no god, counter to theism. If you don't know that much, don't waste time arguing religion, thanks.

Get fucked. The american-english definition refers to a belief that there is no god, but the uk-english definition, also referred to as the 'correct' definition, is a lack of belief in god, or rejection of belief in god.

You can't call me disingenuous because americans butchered the language.

Who cares their religion? Islam is primarily a political system.

Mohammed longed for the jews approval. The hostility stems in large measure because daddy wasn't proud of his bastard son.

>jstor.org/stable/4545974?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


If the jews prospered from it that in itself may explain why it's kept so obscure from view.

We sent our worst turks to europe. We hate them as well, because %99 of them are erdogan supporters.

There are so many atheists in turkey

Im from turkey and all my friends are ex-muslims… Erdogan bastard made us hate our religion

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Oh well, perhaps you'll adopt a better religion as a consequence.

kitman and taqiyya

Kill yourselves shitskin crybabies

Cherry-picking. They enjoy their iPhones, garbage movies, drugs, porn, the internets and all the other stuff the dirty kuffar has invented for the mindless consumer sheeple. Still, when asked, they identify as "proud" and totally religious mudslimes and as you said, want all fags (*) to get stoned of thrown off rooftops. P.S. it is totally haram and not homo if you're the one putting your dick in another man's anus.

(*) used as an expression, no offense to fags.

Islam is just a facade of arab invasion.

Muslim converts fuck arabs.

not surprising since they were brought here to dilute whites and mongrelize with the races to create the new age religion known as consumerism and the new churches are your big business. Google is truth!!!! Just do a google search for antihate truefacts!!!
We've reached a modern age similar to the aristocratic degenlust hell during the middle ages but with modern jewish aesthetics.

Well most Muslims who lose faith become queanists like me, or they end up agnostic because they never read the Quran. This is all because of mullahs who follow the hadith blindly. Hadiths are secondary sources that are prone to error.

Can confirm. That's why they(we) should stay in our places.
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“God does not exist”

Retard