Maybe you guys can enlighten me why people get so emotional over their support of the Out of Africa theory.
I and a friend came from a round table discussion between 6 evolutionary scientists, 3 historians, 2 sociologists, 2 genealogists, 2 journalists, and 1 political scientist. There was an audience of roughly 60 people, mostly college students surrounding the round table in the center. The topic of the discussion was the Out of Africa theory; and ignoring everyone except for the evolutionary scientists there were 2 supporters of the Out of Africa theory and 4 Supporters of Multi-regional Growth Theory.
The scientists were extremely civil between each other and never once got emotional. Both groups were bringing up studies and research that supports their arguments and disputes the other side.
Everything seemed to go fine but after about 30 minutes into the 2 hour discussion everything devolved into a screaming match from everyone; including the audience, except the 6 scientists every time the Multi regional growth scientists spoke.
My friend and I are not very social or political; we mostly hang on /v/ and /a/, but we figured this would be the right place to ask this question.
I heard many people from the audience scream tons of political buzzwords and called one of the Multi-regional scientists, an African American scientist named Bernard Howard Thorpe, a coon and Uncle Tom.
There is plenty of research to support the theory but there is also plenty of research to dispute it which is why it's called a theory, not a fact. The whole point of these round tables is for the scientific community to find common ground and a consensus in order to get closer to what the facts are not devolve into a screaming match.
So, why were some many people getting so emotional over a scientific theory that has been disputed since the day it was first introduced?
They don't have a worldview without that theory. The increasing scrutiny is probably most unwelcome at the present time, when the societies and countries these "people" believed they were "taking over" are on the brink of collapse largely because of them. They need the scientific theater show to not reflect reality as much as possible.
Julian Walker
Because they are foolish anti-Evolution science deniers who read "Common Ancestry" as "Literally genetically identical in every way"
Eli Price
Because human history goes back far further than (((academics))) will acknowledge. We've had no fewer than three cataclysms since the end of the Pleistocene: the start and end of the younger dryas (see meltwater pulse 1a and 1b), along with something within ±1000 years of recorded history starting (think Burckle impact crater).
One or more of the civilizations that existed prior to these cataclysms were extremely advanced, but not in the sense that our civilizations are.
There are a ton of interconnected disciplines of research and philosophy that tie the studies of the pre-cataclysm world together, but the short of it is: acknowleding OoA as sophistry acknowledges how little we know about our past which slowly begins to validate all things esoteric.
Noah Jenkins
Go home nigger out of africa was disproven a decade ago.
Actually Jews came from outer space. Goyim were invented in test tubes, from crossbreeding various monkey genetics with the Jew gene, to be the slave of the Jews.
Unfortunately, they crash landed on Earth and couldn't leave.
Charles Gonzalez
Because its not true and is designed to imply that there is "one race the human race maaaaan" which is a central tenant of the modern cult of the false god Equality.
But then, you know that already.
Owen Clark
Blacks are the original Earthmen, whites came from somewhere else…
Jonathan Russell
yo he sounds FUCKING BASTE
Dylan Johnson
Because it's true but not in the shitty false way it's presented to the public. In your picture, sprinkle a few zeroes to the figures. Enough time for a great number of populations to diverge, flourish, die out, mix, separate, etc. It could be a proper teaching moment on how the pressures of the environment even affect us humans, making the races distinct. Essentially, yes, the multi-region theory from your event. Instead, it's mostly used as user here said, by people who think we can all sing kumbaya if it wasn't for those pesky wrong-thinkers. This'll be a shift that'll be even slower to come to the masses than say, tectonic plates, because the evidence will point to uncomfortable (i.e. race realist) conclusions.
Also, do you know if there's a video of the event? It'd be pretty intradesting to watch.
Luke Williams
Wrong, Africans are jungle jiggers, Muslims and Jews are desert dwellers and Europeans are forest folk.
Mason Robinson
this tends to be the case with anything someone has been brought up on. It was imprinted at an early age and becomes an almost primal certainty that isn't easily dissuaded. Some other admittedly lesser examples would be trying to tell someone that humans actually do use more than 10% of their brain or trying to convince a haes ham that the body doesn't produce more than it consumes.
Jackson Green
People need this theory to be true so that they cant turn around and say "we're not so different, we all came from Africa we're all the same on the inside" when that couldn't be further from the truth. Blacks are descended from the bonobo, this out of Africa theory is a big reason why you shouldnt trust the scientific community
Michael Clark
Oh boy, I made that mistake once. I wasn't even talking to her, just mentioning how counting calories religiously actually helped me not be that much of a fatass….
Only very small brains are worried about ancient human evolutionary biology. Wether the human genome was developed loosely in parrallel in different areas or if we all came from the same original organism it makes literally no difference to anyone from a political perspective.
Certain races are lower IQ than others. That is a largely genetic distinction. Those who who want to destroy the political basis for that will do so regardless of human evolutionary biology. Until research can prove that IQ is largely NOT genetic than the discussion can change in a meaningful way and until then it's just theater for caved-in heads. Don't be a caved-in head drooling retard.
Lincoln Gray
It doesn't support their communist agenda. The communists want to force everyone to be exactly the same, think the same, dress the same, make men women, make women men. They can't claim we are all African when people dare speak the truth.
So we find out our whole ancestral line is native to Asia or Eurasia.
But I really want to focus on this question
This is very multi-sided and somewhat humourous. One is the fact scientists have massive egos and will do whatever it takes to protect their theories and this has manifested itself multiple times, I'd say the ones with the biggest egos are the paleontologists, an infamous example being the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_Wars and constantly since then to this day paleontologists either withholding bones from other paleontologists to examine because it may discredit their long held theories of themselves or any scientific colleagues they are close with/aligned or just outright destroying fossils to hide evidence of inconvenient narratives. It's unfortunate but science is highly politicised, the lunatic PC crowd making it impossible to do real research as this unfortunate man found out
And that leads us to two. The Out-Of-Africa theory has benefits to the narrative of what some scientists call "leftist creationist" types. There's this huge effort to give the Africans any credit whatsoever to prop them up but that's where the paradox begins because Out-Of-Africa can also be interpreted as racist, a story where everyone else is humanity left Africa and evolved while sub-Saharans are the "left behinds" of the human race; not smart, adventurous, or man enough to leave the bountiful resource rich comfort of Africa for the dangerously cold Europe, Asia, and beyond where the man who planned and not the man who ran won.
Finally three is the multi-region hypothesis is already proven correct. Why? Because we found out through genetic mapping humanity is really a mix of entirely different species. Neanderthal, Denisovan, and more. The one that confounds us is the admixture of the sub-Saharan Africans. Their admixture is so strange, archaic, and distant from the rest of humanity no scientist can identify it. In truth, when we discovered this it should have been one of the most single important findings in all of human history but the leftist creationists wouldn't have it and that's where we're at now. This disgusting anti-science world continues to crushed science even as right religious lunatics and religion wanes thanks to the rise of leftist lunatics. There's no escape and that's why this is happening, OP.
Gavin Walker
Because it was ONLY a theory and not a good one at that. But at the time the idea of soothing and boosting black pride was all the rage. In the end this THEORY was pushed through because of A. overconfidence in what appeared to be solid evidence and the belief that this theory would surely prove itself out in the end. and B. Fucking racism against Whites and Asians on the part of the "scientific" community. Shame on these fucking fucks forever. There are several far more convincing theories than this "out of Africa" bullcrap. They have better and more solid evidence backed by the GOLD STANDARD of the evidentiary world known as DNA and it's related science. You see the scientists realize that they can transpose the lions share of all their work and iseas onto any system of origin. So whether the truth is Africa or anywhere else their ideas still stand on solid footing,. So why give a shit, why is that all they care about? Well keeping the idea of "out of Africa" central in their work benefits them as a result of folks who want this theory to be true whether it is or not. (the we was kang's effect) It keeps the money flowing. If they reversed course and changed it to a out of Asia or out of Europe theory you can bet your ass their funding would dry the fuck up, like a 80 year old porn stars absolutely wrecked hallway she calls a pussy, overnight. "Out of Africa" is nothing more than pandering with the collection plate held out by the community. How else are these scientists going to pay the bills. If origin has no real damaging effect on their ideas, then why give a flying fuck?
It's like this with countless things. People don't really care about the truth, they merely choose whatever truth confirms their worldview. SJWs choose Out of Africa as their truth so they can say that we are all Africans and therefore equal, which makes no sense to anyone with a basic understanding of evolution. Similarly white supremacists reject Out of Africa just to defy the SJWs who say it means that we are all Africans, again not because they truly know that it's false, but because it can be used to challenge their worldview if interpreted in a completely retarded way. Open your eyes, don't let political dogma corrupt your sense, or you will walk through life blind.
Jonathan Turner
!THIS!
Explains it far better than I.
Connor Baker
It's not a Theory, it's a hypothesis.
Carson Nelson
Geneticists are already coming to this point, this is from top Harvard geneticist David Reich Quote >I am worried that well-meaning people who deny the possibility of substantial biological differences among human populations are digging themselves into an indefensible position, one that will not survive the onslaught of science.
You just can't deny reality forever. This age will be another dark age stain in humanity's scientific history except this time it won't be the church but the insane egalitarian equally religious zealots holding back real progress.
Currently, mainstream science already admits intelligence is mostly inheritable.
Here's the thing us race realist scientists do. We can't/avoid publishing or mentioning race in journals with some exceptions but we can do what's called scientific peer reviewed tip toeing. We'll do all the studies we can confirming behavioural and cognitive sciences but we don't mention race at least on paper. It will essentially lead anyone with even an iota of intellect to the same conclusions of race realism as saying it outright. The evidence is overwhelming in every measure even without IQ we can go with cranial capacity or mirror and impulsiveness tests and more and it affirms the same exact things IQ has already confirmed on the disparity of intellect and whom is civilised between populations.
Nathan Price
Funny you should say that. If some very convincing theories are true, Africas black population was on the very edge of collapse and the passing of blacks from the syage of world history, when Whites fortuitously came on the scene. Whites could not have come along at a more opportune, or better that we say NEEDED, time. Whites were asked if they would trade for captured enemy warriors by tribal chieftains. I mean blacks really had NOTHING else of any value they could trade. The blacks were just above the chimpanzee if the big picture is taken into full account. They had absolutely NOTHING of value to trade. But those shiny beads and colorful cloth the White man possessed were highly coveted by the primitive black race. In the end basically the tribal leader offered these men as slaves in trade for these trinkets. These "men" would have been executed if the White man had walked away. And blacks would have continued their downward spiral into oblivion. The black races interaction with Whites saved their ass. They learned all the things they would never have discovered on their own that would help them thrive once again in Africas quickly changing environment, changes that intelligence challenged blacks could not keep up with. In many cases the blacks just put themselves under White rule because they at least had the sense to realize that White were smarter, (almost God like to them) wiser, and being subservient to Whites was better than slowly fading from existence. That's the real story of blacks and how Whites regrettably became involved with them.
James Moore
prolly this tbh
Juan Collins
LOL user, please. The cosmopolitans can't be cornered so easily. They'll simply shift to a new position and deny ever having held the previous position (see: global cooling circa 1970s) I predict that the shift will go to something like how miscegenation is proper or, if batshit crazy enough, incentivized cross breeding because it's not "fair" otherwise.
People aren't interested in the truth. They are interested in confirming their biases. To some people, especially women, having their biases broken with facts is physically painful. I can tell you this from experience as an ex girlfriend once told me this during attempted redpilling#47
i don't get emotional but it's not the only theory. others have postulated that not unlike neandertal there were several human species. one theory holds that cro-magnon originated in russia and became europoid whilst africans developed separately although we all had a common protohuman common ancestor the africa story has several discrepancies for example we know that at one time the population in africa was a mere 44,000 or so. How does that amount to muh 7-10 billion alleged to live now? just like neandertal could and did mate with humans same as negroids just like birds or any other animal. did birds originate in africa? who cares there really is no validity to the africa claim. africa could have been the origin of some pygmie or half minded circus ape that got butt fucked and created alex jones (bill hicks) but the so called origin is a claim made out of the inability to say we don't really know. my chickens for example are they raptors? where did raptors originate? just lay the eggs.
Oliver Stewart
Leaving the rest of your ramblings alone… It's like you never cracked open a biology book or lived anywhere with deer.
completely factual negroids have the smallest cranial capacity but any academic has to be sneaky or get called a racist and marginalised. who wants to ruin their life over the truth. you just gotta be vague so the stupid twits don't get triggered and so you protect your institution which pays you against scandal. then they wonder why elites don't feel the masses should make any real or important decisions. because they are ignorant and incapable.
Benjamin Bennett
fine but where did your deer originate
Kevin Richardson
Here is the archive to your article user. archive.is/r7ByB Also, I found there's a chan scraper in Voat. LOL
Jordan Bennett
-Jews want us to believe the shitty OOA theory because it demoralizes us by insinuating that the black man is our daddy in an ancestral origins sense. It also puts us beneath the black man in the submissive role as his de facto son/s. Jews just love to promote this shitty little theory for the sheer psyche warfare value it has against us.
-Niggers want it to be true because they know their contributions to humanity are virtually nill on any serious level so this being true would at the very least give them a proverbial seat at the table so to speak, meaning they’d finally in a way be able to claim some real level of respect from the rest of us for their being our progenitors instead of barely tolerable ape like creatures that we might decide to wholesale exterminate at any time for our own safety and well being purposes.
So there’s a lot riding on this theory being true for our racial enemies.
Carter Watson
It's an intellectual failure because people aren't able to stoically accept other people's opinions might differ from their own. This is a typical sign of indoctrination or even extremism which is the refusal to accept other people's opinions. It also can be interpreted as a lack of mental maturity. Personally I think it has a variety of factors but mainly the lack of individualist thought and respect for individual liberties isn't emphasized enough in modern education.
Ethan Miller
Like a previous user said: you can undermine OOA by saying it's racist: it's implying that black people aren't smart enough to leave their homeland, etc. Really ham it up.
Christopher Price
The out of Africa theory is operating on the time-frame of entire continents drifting. The 'humans' back then could barely be considered human according to evolution. If you were to meet those so called humans face to face you and I would probably recognize them as being closer to primates or neanderthal-like. It doesn't really matter whether it happened or not because there are clearly distinct cultures that are being threatened by mass migration and multiculturalism. Why people consider the OOA theory so important is beyond me as logically it doesn't change my position. They need to go back to Africa.
Sins of the father are the sins of the son, this is the symptom of a mindset that only sees people as group members and disregards individuality.
Hudson Peterson
Opposition to the Out of Africa stuff is always based on Christfaggotry and nothing else. Why would a "white supremacist" or whatever deny it? Because the "white supremacist" you're talking to is just a Christfag in disguise, and he wants to continue imaging Moses looked like Charlton Heston and not a nigger.
Christian Murphy
Jesus wasn't a bad jew though.
Nolan Phillips
Jesus never existed. It's a literary character in a story.
Thomas Harris
Translation: believing my ancestor was a monkey hurts me in the feel-feels. How could Adam and Eve be baboons? Implying ZOG-niggers care about that kind of shit. The types that would care already believe "WE WUZ KANGZ" of Egypt, that all Bible characters were niggers, that Socrates was a nigger, etc, etc.
Life is more beautiful for her because she's not judging men by their looks, but by their character.
Ryder Hall
Because our entire globohomo religion of wypepo bad, brown pepo good is built around that theory
Sebastian Reyes
Genuine Q - I know and, i will lurk 2 moar years, but, for now…. Then why do niggers look like fucking gorillas and apes? You may find some similarities between monkys and some Asian ( Panjeets and Chinks), but not as prevalent as niggers and apes - why is this?
Africans are Savannah Straddlers, not jungle jiggers
Sebastian Nguyen
Again, how does this explain biological, emotional and physical traits which are sometimes similar between races ?
Xavier Nguyen
One thing people keep forgetting, according to the theory all of humanity descended from the Khoi Africans who are infamous for being peaceful and currently being genocided by bantu subhumans the one American and European niggers are descended from.
Asher Martinez
The nigger is just a substitute for any ape in this discussion. They're not complaining about being related to niggers, they're complaining about being related to any apes at all. The nigger is just a stand-in for the ape here, because if they didn't do this, it would be obvious they're just Kike cock-sucking Christfags.
Jason White
Because the only human beings are the White people. Everything else are just a bunch of subhuman parasites that must all be genocided.
Aaron Davis
No we have genetic evidence that niggers are only a subspecies of hominids that are 30,000 years old and a cross between africans and 'an unknown admixture' which it turns out in GEDMATCH is 'chimpanzee'. They are not human.
Jacob Cook
This.
Elijah Rogers
Filtered for religious D&C. We have a 'religion' thread you can take your bullshit too.
Wyatt Lopez
He wasn't a jew at all you dumb faggot.
Camden Richardson
It's not a theory its a hypothesis. People use the two interchangeably far too often these days. If theres research to support and dispute it then it doesn't meet the criteria for theory. Until the disputing results/evidence are somehow explained in a manner consistent with the hypothesis.
Dominic Bennett
This
Aaron Williams
pride nobody really wants to be related to niggers
Nathaniel Brooks
That is a funny ass shooped image.
Ian Lopez
What exactly do you mean by "Multi-regional Growth Theory" and "Out of Africa Theory"? Because it should be testable. And as far as I see, the evidence supports the Out of Africa theory. Sure, there was minor admixture with other human populations, but that hardly invalidates the model. Humans spread out of Africa, and with some minor admixture and divergence there arose distinct genetic populations, races.
Honestly, it seems that some people try to rely on the multiregional hypothesis because they think they need to emphasize something, to prove that there are different races in humans. You don't need to do that.
Angel Morales
Interdastig… I heard a (non-scientific) theory as a child along similar lines, that everything we know about everything since the last ice age has happened before… may explain oddities like the antikythera device/machine/i can't remember.
Got any links?
Blake Reyes
because black people want to be better than white people, and other non-whites want white people to be taken off of their pedestal so that they can feel better about their shortcomings
Anthony Bell
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Isaac Ross
There was a time when men did not fuck subhuman bitches. They were called the Watchers and they supervised the planet (without fucking subhumans) but then White men decided that they wanted to fuck monkeys and they have been doing it ever since, destroying the entire planet and filling it with disgusting and foul mongrels that are not animal and not human. Try The Book of Enoch, it speaks clearly about the men who defiled themselves by fucking subhuman trash (and continue to do so to this day). If only men could learn not to put their dicks into monkeys we would all be better off.
Here you go white men fucking subhuman trash…still occurring in modern civilization, every fucking day. Your problem is NOT REALIZING that all these women are monkeys compared to our race and that you are making mongrel trash NON-HUMANS and defiling your inheritance with them.
This is about evolution. Your claim is that niggers were created when a 'Watcher' fucked a baboon. Vis a vis the creation of the nigger species we call humans. Was this not your claim?
Xavier Baker
In addition to ——-these subhumans have similar traits to the 'Watchers' so i can understand fucking them - what i do not understand is your claim of actual gorilla fucking by white men.
Nathan Foster
They want to rehabilitate Satan's continent from glorified ape sanctuary to cradle of civilization.
Xavier Brown
You mean the Chinese? Well at least they will murder all the niggers in it. There is no way that the bug people will tolerate wild dindus running around in their nation trashing stuff just because they are alive (some of the time it is not malicious, they are just fucking retards). I can remember a story about a mining company that had to forbid all niggers from truck driving because they were too stupid to avoid things like potholes on the road and the truck accrued thousands of dollars in damage from a few trips.
Matthew Hughes
if this were the case their genetics would be so distant that they couldn't interbreed.
Leo Miller
WTF, no user. It is about the fact that the entire planet used to be a White Utopia where we shepherded the lesser ape races. Then one day White men (rapists basically because subhumans can't really consent) started fucking the very subhuman trash they were supposed to be helping to elevate to sentience. This was not 'shepherding' them to sentience but instead it produced horrific mongrels that destroyed everything they touched (jews/semites) and then all the lesser races that are mongrel trash and only know how to destroy, devour and fuck (asians/niggers/spicniggers/etc). Like I said it is all written down in the Book of Enoch. None of these disgusting corrupted 'offspring' will survive because they are mongrels who are not fit for life. Close…or niggers might be lab specimens. But they were meant to be a replacement slave for the gold and precious metal mines in Africa where the Whites no longer wanted to work. It was this one disgusting act that produced all the hominids in the world. They are probably all a mongrel product of the same 'nigger experiment' and meant to ONLY BE SLAVES. But instead White men just HAD TO PUT THEIR DICK INTO THEIR SLAVES and produced the disgusting mongrel populations of the globe. >Genesis 6. And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God (race mixing fucking whore who started all this shit) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Jonathan Evans
Any indication on what they looked like - genetic make up etc?
Samuel Johnson
Liberia already debunked it. But don't stop me from reminding the normalfaggots of it at every opportunity.
Robert Fisher
Slightly more ape-like, according to their nature of their subspecies, than they look now. I will never understand what prompts men to put their dick into non-European women…but they do it the same way that they put their dicks into a faggots shit/butthole. Anyway, the entire fucking planet got quarantined for this problem because the plague (mongrels) that resulted could not be allowed out of the 'bubble of punishment' for the Watchers who 'left their first estate' (natural relations with their own kind) and started monkey fucking.
Anyway, the entire fucking planet got quarantined for this problem because the plague (mongrels) that resulted could not be allowed out of the 'bubble of punishment.
Luke Morales
White men do fuck animals. Even on Zig Forums a supposed 'Conservative' environment, you will see threads devoted to men who put their (procreation principle) inside another mans butt until it bleeds or falls out of the fags body [or men who proudly promote their latest non-consensual rape/marriage to monkeys]…I mean that right there along with the 'online instructions' on how to stuff your own loose anus material back up inside you after a vigorous fucking should tell you that the Watchers who 'left their estate' were fucking weak and degenerate and probably needed to be thrown down here to die as slaves for MANY generations (they should hope that it was only 72 generations). >And to Michael the Lord said: "[…] Bind them for seventy generations [Azazel one + Azazel twenty one; the first {alpha} and the last {omega} concludes the judgment at 72 generations] underneath the rocks of the ground until the day of their judgment is concluded." If this is not the case they will be driven to extinction in the most horrific ways imaginable by the disgusting creations of their own cocks. Which would actually be a suitable punishment as long as the mongrel trash their sexual union produced was dragged down with them into the grave.
The Watchers are weak…they took an oath of hatred (imprication = hatred) towards the planet in order to defile it in the manner they did.
>"1. And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all >>>lawlessness
Anthony Williams
Is this why we haven't left earth? Reminds me of the epic of gilgamesh.
Parker Nguyen
Yes, the jews believe that the universe is theirs to pillage, devour and destroy because it is eternal (their saying that it has a 'beginning and end' is one of their lies) and thus it is not a 'sin' to destroy and consume whatever you desire, others whom they would pillage, devour and destroy are not as keen on that particular agenda. It is like we bred the worst parasite that the universe has ever seen on this planet and it wants out more than anything in the universe…but like I said, the universe at large is not so keen on their agenda of the ultimate destruction. That is why we are in quarantine until this is resolved. Since others do not perceive time the way we do, for them a relatively small amount of time has passed while for us it has been thousands of years of punishment and many lives.
Easton Bennett
THIS WAS ONLY POSSINBLE BECAUSE OF RELIGION All jews are responsible for this.
Benjamin Brown
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Brody Cooper
How about we ban both of you from Zig Forums for pushing the jewish agenda of drug use and degenerate behavior as well as a FUCKING LACK OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY you fucking leftard.
Both of you deserve a ban for this sloppy nigger reasoning.
Jeremiah Turner
Dumbfuck she reasoned it was "God's Plan™".
Jaxon Martin
Humans intentionally committed bestiality and mixed their blood with subhuman hominids or were forcibly raped through genocide.
They believe in progress, whilst simultaneously believing in the purity of tribal life, uncontaminated by civilization. This means that they want to see negroes as the epitome of what humans should be, merely damaged by civilization. However, if out of africa goes out of the window, negroes can and will be seen as a failure. They can't have that in their egalitarian world.
Owen Cook
Out of Africa theory makes no use of the the Americas as a center for civilization. It ultimately says they are the most outbred race of people. It makes no use of traveling vessels for closest point between Africa and South America called the humps. However makes use of vessels for Asia to Australia. You know the theory was proposed by a group of white men from around the area of Turkey whom wanted to preserve their businesses with Asia because that was the only trading partner they historically had.
