What if the National Socialists had won?

A few years before ww2, hitler had spoken highly of poland and its leader.
When that leader was replaced, and when the new leader refused all talks and kept poking a stick into germany's side is when poland fell out of favour.

They lost

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I agree in large part and understand what you're saying. You're right that Lebensraum is, in the morality of the time, unremarkable. Britain had colonies across the world and ruled more people than they could possibly count. So did France. Mere decades before, the German-Hungarian Austro Hungarian Empire ruled over many millions of Serbs, Bosnians, Slovenians, Croats, Czechs, Romanians, Italians, and Slovaks. European imperialism against each other has always been far more brutal than our imperialism towards others. Blacks can claim that we arrived in 1800 and started shooting them. Sure. Yet virtually all European nations can point our fingers at others and describe horrendous things and literal genocides done to each other since the dawn of history.
Thus, if one wishes to judge Lebensraum to be immoral from a modern cuckservative-egalitarian position, then Germany is no less immoral than any of the nations that fought her. And I have pointed this out many times to people IRL. Even WW2 vets.

However, I am a Nationalist through and through. I believe in the innate right of all Europeans to rule over ourselves in our own lands, free from foreign exploitation. Imperialism has only benefitted the jews. Besides, we know now that nationalism is a natural and inevitable ideology for all peoples. So even if we eliminated the jews and made the EU into a German Empire run, the Balts, French, Brits, and Poles would all inevitably desire freedom and sovereignty. Thus the only way to attain peace would either be to exterminate everyone or simply let White people govern ourselves in peace.

Anyway, I apologize again for misjudging you.


Hmm. That must be why they waged a constant insurgency against them whilst welcoming the Americans as liberators. And why the French had no difficulty in reestablishing their republic and experienced zero resistance.


I agree. To me, Hitler is neither God nor Devil. He's a historical character. I think his domestic policies were great. I have some critiques and I wish he had created a German "mossad" to hunt down Rothschilds and their ilk, but I assume it's very tough to create such an organization.

My serious AT analysis of a (realistic) German victory would be a cold war between the Anglosphere and the Germanosphere. There's no way that the Germans would have capitulated America. Thus they would be an antagonist to worry about. Europe would have a lot of rebuilding and I'd assume that Hitler would die in the 50s. It's tough to envision who would fill Hitler's shoes. It could have been Albert Kesselring, sure. But he had less political connections than Himmler or Goering. None of them had Hitler's dynamism. So which direction would the Germanosphere go? How would the economy, nearly destroyed by the war, faire?
Another thing to consider is that this hypothetical world is literally the nightmare scenario for Halford Mackinder. Berlin would control the World Island without any rivals (other than Japan). Thus, I would expect the USA to try to make up with Japan (as they did with China to combat the USSR in our timeline).
Japan, being a tricky, opportunistic nation, would play both sides against each other. An ideological chameleon. Whoever succeeded Hitler would need to play a dangerous game of balance in the central Eurasian puppet states. Already weakened by war, Germany would not be able to afford a 'Vietnam' in the east. Then again, neither would Japan.