Alabama governor signs nation's most restrictive anti-abortion bill into law

Nathan Wilson
Nathan Wilson

(CNN) — Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey on Wednesday signed into law a controversial abortion bill that could punish doctors who perform abortions with life in prison.
"Today, I signed into law the Alabama Human Life Protection Act, a bill that was approved by overwhelming majorities in both chambers of the Legislature," said Ivey, a Republican, in a statement. "To the bill's many supporters, this legislation stands as a powerful testament to Alabamians' deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from God."
The Alabama Senate passed the bill 25-6 late Tuesday night. The law only allows exceptions "to avoid a serious health risk to the unborn child's mother," for ectopic pregnancy and if the "unborn child has a lethal anomaly." Democrats re-introduced an amendment to exempt rape and incest victims, but the motion failed on an 11-21 vote.
Ivey noted in her statement that the new law may be unenforceable due to the Supreme Court's Roe V. Wade decision that legalized abortion in all 50 states. But, the new law was passed with the aim of challenging that decision, Ivey said.
"No matter one's personal view on abortion, we can all recognize that, at least for the short term, this bill may similarly be unenforceable," Ivey wrote. "As citizens of this great country, we must always respect the authority of the U.S. Supreme Court even when we disagree with their decisions. Many Americans, myself included, disagreed when Roe v. Wade was handed down in 1973. The sponsors of this bill believe that it is time, once again, for the U.S. Supreme Court to revisit this important matter, and they believe this act may bring about the best opportunity for this to occur."

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Cameron Hernandez
Cameron Hernandez

I'm unsure whether this is throwing a bone to the base or a calculated maneuver to sheepdog democrat adjacent voters back into electoralism so they don't get radicalized.

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Grayson Reyes
Grayson Reyes

The day democracy died.

Bottom text.

Jacob Lewis
Jacob Lewis

abortion is scam pushed by the bourgeoisie to trick the lower classes in to having fewer "useless eaters"
once capitalism is abolished, there will be no need for abortion

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

implying anyone too retarded to use contraception should reproduce

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

Black people abort the most, so it's obviously a move to breed out the whites. The bourgeois doesn't like white people you see, they invented socialism after all, they also don't make good slaves like black people do, which is why they used black slaves instead of white slaves.
(daz waicis)

William Campbell
William Campbell

Ironically, the soviets though those conditions were already met when they decided to ban abortion a few years after making it legal.

Its restriction was actually portrayed as a fulfillment of Lenin-era policy. To quote one author (Pat Sloan, Soviet Democracy, 1937, pp. 125-126):

A matter which has raised considerable doubts in the minds of many protagonists of sex-equality in this country is the law, passed in 1936, making abortion illegal except in cases where it is justified by consideration for a woman's health or the danger of hereditary disease. This change in the law has been treated as an attack on sex-equality.

It is of the greatest importance in this connection, to refer back to the text of the original law which legalised abortion in Soviet Russia in 1921. It is important to note that in this law not a word was said about sex-equality, and the right to have an abortion was never put forward as a fundamental right of the Soviet woman. On the contrary, abortion was treated as a social evil, but an evil which was likely to be less harmful when practised legally than when carried out under conditions of secrecy. Here is part of the text of the original law permitting abortion:

"During the past decades the number of women resorting to artificial discontinuation of pregnancy has grown both in the West and in this country. The legislation of all countries combats this evil by punishing the woman who chooses to have an abortion and the doctor who performs it. Without leading to favourable results, this method of combating abortion has driven the operation underground and made the woman a victim of mercenary and often ignorant quacks who make a profession of secret operations. As a result, up to 50 per cent of such women are infected in the course of the operation, and up to 4 per cent of them die.

"The Workers' and Peasants' Government is conscious of this serious evil to the community. It combats this evil by propaganda against abortions among working women. By working for Socialism, and by introducing the protection of maternity and infancy on an extensive scale, it feels assured of achieving the gradual disappearance of this evil. But as moral survivals of the past and the difficult economic conditions of the present still compel many women to resort to this operation. . ." it is allowed in State hospitals.

The essential feature of this law is that it was based on "difficult economic conditions," and was of a temporary nature. The right to abortion was never introduced as one of the rights of Soviet women, to be enjoyed in all circumstances. It was considered an "evil," and was introduced as a makeshift to combat the serious mortality rate from illegal abortions carried out under unsatisfactory conditions. There is evidence that, at the present time, owing to the increased knowledge of contraceptives on the one hand and the growing sense of economic security on the other, women will not now practise abortion in this way, and that therefore the permissive law is no longer necessary in the interests of health. Abortion in Soviet legislation has always been regarded primarily as a question of health, not of equality. Since thousands of women have been neglecting the use of contraceptives because they could obtain an abortion, the legality of the less satisfactory method of discontinuing pregnancy has actually to some extent prevented more satisfactory methods from being used of avoiding pregnancy altogether.

Needless to say, the notion that Soviet women had no more need to recourse to abortion was erroneous (plenty continued to do so illegally), and abortion was thus relegalized after Stalin's death.

Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

does not understand how wages work
muh white race
fuck off back to /pol/ you maggots

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

Good, shame the punishment isn't the death sentence.

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Justin Jackson
Justin Jackson

Or the GOP in Alabama just really hates abortion and doesn’t care about the potential consequences. Republicans are true believers when it comes to this shit.

Grayson Jenkins
Grayson Jenkins

too retarded to use contraception
The same people pushing for abortion to be banned are also pushing for nonsense like abstinence-only sex ed and restrictions on contraception.

Gabriel Flores
Gabriel Flores

I'm sorry why is the left generally pro abortion again?
Lowering the population is what capitalists want, allows for easier control, sex being turned into a commodity through the contraceptive industry and more means more profit from it, and this stuff generally promotes less critical decision making skills. Is it just "muh free will"?
If that's the case can't someone just do something equally retarded like constantly crash cars over and over from the store because "it's their free will"? Obviously not so why the application here?

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John Mitchell
John Mitchell

It's about emancipation you imbecile. Capitalists want bigger populations, that's how the reserve army of labour works and that's why every single capitalist country panics about their spooky "demographic crises", that's why they ban abortion and why they promote their disgusting natalist policies. Parents naturally prefer quality over quantity but capitalism develops only quantitatively and capitalists need masses of cheap labour which is why they are pushing everyone to breed like rabbits even if that means keeping families perpetually in poverty, that's actually preferable for them. Parents are docile because they believe they have too much to lose. You never see parents on barricades.

Landon Clark
Landon Clark

It's about emancipation you imbecile.
Emancipation with what justification, none, some, why would you need to do it especially in a much more stable society than capitalism like socialism or communism or anarchism? Especially in those considering society would welcome the child with open arms and in some cases rape wouldn't be an issue.
Capitalists want bigger populations, that's how the reserve army of labour works and that's why every single capitalist country panics about their spooky "demographic crises", that's why they ban abortion and why they promote their disgusting natalist policies. Parents naturally prefer quality over quantity but capitalism develops only quantitatively and capitalists need masses of cheap labour which is why they are pushing everyone to breed like rabbits even if that means keeping families perpetually in poverty, that's actually preferable for them. Parents are docile because they believe they have too much to lose. You never see parents on barricades.
So is that why the Georgia Guide stones which if not legit Frankenstein Zionist Computer Gangster tier manifesto's are indeed confirmed to have been funded by rich organizations, and have their ideology fully rooted in population control narrative?
Is that why China has had a disastrous time trying to control the population?
Or why liberals and capitalists promote abortion in the media?
If you have kids you'll be in poverty.
No if you live under capitalism you'll be in poverty. The US tax code benefits you the richer you are and the more property you own. You do realize people without or with little to now children will be as poor as those who do?
Masses of cheap labour
Judging by boomers still being forced to work it seems to me like they have a steady supply either way, just look at Japan, big meme country purported for a declining birth rate.
Still one of the most heavily capitalist enslaved places on Earth. You can't even have children because you're working to death.

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Colton Harris
Colton Harris

Especially in those considering society would welcome the child with open arms and in some cases rape wouldn't be an issue.
Dangerously idealist.

David Sullivan
David Sullivan

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Matthew Morris
Matthew Morris

Fuck you for fooling me, here's a real twerking girl in revenge.

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Carson Hall
Carson Hall

A trait openly told by multiple communalists and more is idealist.
Okay pal', businesses like ToysRUs which went out of business anyways because most children are on phones these days anyways.
Sure.
And in general:
Muh customer fallacy
This is pretty much admitting to just being a bad parent by saying your children will inherently grow up to be retarded mind controlled consumers because you never bothered to teach them about anything much less socialism. If this is the case then just don't have kids.
user… that's a trap.

Robert Price
Robert Price

If this is the case then just don't have kids.
In that case allow dumb people to abort their future dumb children.

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

Japan's far-right capitalist government is doing everything in their power to make their population breed, they are constantly shitting their pants about their workforce shrinking because of men preferring waifus to children. Access to abortion is not population control, forced abortions and banning abortion are, which are policies that every leftist must oppose. Liberals support abortion because it fits into their ideology of individual freedom, but capitalists do not support it in any way, I am not sure where are you getting your delusions from OK I know it's from /pol/'s paranoid fantasies of Jews brainwashing "white" women to abort their "white" babies so fuck you retard

Brayden Ortiz
Brayden Ortiz

Japan's far-right capitalist government is doing everything in their power to make their population breed, they are constantly shitting their pants about their workforce shrinking because of men preferring waifus to children.
Abe tier meme theory considering people are accusing them of using waifus as breeding propaganda too, neither theory has any credence.
Access to abortion is not population control, forced abortions and banning abortion are,
The US isn't fascist it's just a bourg democracy!
Liberals support abortion because it fits into their ideology of individual freedom, but capitalists do not support it in any way
You contradicted yourself.
OK I know it's from /pol/'s paranoid fantasies of Jews brainwashing "white" women to abort their "white" babies so fuck you retard
/pol/ explicitly supports abortion because it lowers the black population and they're pro eugenics. Yet you call me delusional.
I will say I support abortion now thanks to you convincing me that we need it so that people like you aren't born though. So thanks.

Also I felt bad about tricking you guys with the nigga twerk meme so here's an actual strip and twerk video.

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Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

Japan's far-right capitalist government is doing everything in their power to make their population breed, they are constantly shitting their pants about their workforce shrinking because of men preferring waifus to children.
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Abe tier meme theory considering people are accusing them of using waifus as breeding propaganda too, neither theory has any credence.
Both of these perspectives are based on the same false premise embraced by both "sides" of the "debate", that Japan is in a severe demographic crisis compared to its peers.

In reality, Japan's fertility rate, if compared against that of the USA minus the effects of mass economic immigration in the neolib era, are identical to within a couple decimal points. Much the same is true compared to Europe. That Japan even achieves this globally typical level of fertility is all the more remarkable when one considers Japan's sky-high population density, even higher than it initially appears at the international level, due to most of Japan's landmass being too rugged for settlement or other exploitation, driving their infamous urbanization.

In spite of this fact, while hysterical natalist/open borders agitprop pours out of the mainstream both domestically and abroad press about a catastrophic wave of NEET herbivore otaku and frigid hikki fujoshis pushing nips to the brink of extinction, nobody (aside from /pol/) spouts such shrill alarmism about the white youth of USA or Europe.

Nip porky-san isn't just angry about the future prospect of shrinking population, but about the present population not being squeezed tight to an absolutely insane degree.

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Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith

far-right
user please.

Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson

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Nip porky-san isn't just angry about the future prospect of shrinking population, but about the present population not being squeezed tight to an absolutely insane degree.
Do you have a link to Porky's manifesto where he advocates for a higher population increase for more workers?

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

Do I even need one?

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Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

You do considering the evidence and manifesto's I've found advocating population control funded by bourgeoisie organizations.
Remember just because cows have increased in population over the years doesn't mean the farmers will ever let them go beyond the limit.

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

Eh, maybe I'll dig up some hyperlinks later. But right off the top of my head, there's the perennial favorite of "muh pension crisis". Unless porky is so retarded as to imagine such an "autistic economics" Ponzi scheme is actually sustainable, the only other possible explanation is more meat for the grinder.

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

The Pension Crisis still doesn't prove that society needs more people just that it needs a new wave of some. That's why it's called population control not extermination. More so pensions were a scam, the whole thing is the consequence of bad policies. Not a very large excuse used by Porky from what I've seen.
How do you also respond to the modern contraceptive and sex industry as well? They're sucking out money as much as anyone else.

Cooper Perez
Cooper Perez

itt: no real arguments can be made because you're all scared that you might look like reactionaries. Abortion is a popular topic because the news media doesn't want you focusing on the US conflict with Iran. Regardless, I've become more against abortion as the years go on. That's a real person, you don't get to create life and kill a human baby just because you are its mother.

Andrew Wright
Andrew Wright

Porky is making an industry out of abortion therefore we should simply stop supporting it without considering anything else.
Abortion bad, you are just afraid of agreeing with me even though there's two other posters in this thread that disagree with abortion and have better takes than mine.

Isaiah Reyes
Isaiah Reyes

Who has more ability to self-determine: someone without kids or someone who has kids they need to look after? Having kids makes workers work harder and tolerate more bullshit because they don't want their kids to be hungry.

Adam Green
Adam Green

Abortion is okay but only if the babies are bourgeois

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

This, we need nobility blue blood tests during pregnancies by 2020 to combat the bourgeois menace.

David Johnson
David Johnson

I will say I support abortion now thanks to you convincing me that we need it so that people like you aren't born though. So thanks.
I'm sorry user but abortion is legal here, it was legalized by the communist party itself. In fact my parents had an agreement with the state that they will have at least two children in exchange for a very favourable loan for their home, so if anything, you should hate natalist policies.

Charles Hughes
Charles Hughes

Got any statistical proof that people who are childless by 30-40 make more/have better lives than parents at that age? Self determination sure? Self determination leading to not getting assfucked anyway? Probably not.
Reread what I said.

Ayden Collins
Ayden Collins

Got any statistical proof that people who are childless by 30-40 make more/have better lives than parents at that age?
You say this as if the timing of children is totally irrelevant, i.e. like a fucking retarded child. Someone who has a kid when they plan to are going to have a much better life than someone who has a kid at a bad time.

Carter Bell
Carter Bell

If they cared about consequences they'd be vehemently in favor of letting the niggers kill their babies. Lots of people have trouble believing it, but conservatives genuinely and sincerely believe abortion is baby murder

Isaac Martin
Isaac Martin

that's why they ban abortion and why they promote their disgusting natalist policies

Lol, found the delusional anti-natalist. Capitalists in developed countries don't give three fucks about natalism outside Hungary and Japan, especially when they've spent the last half century importing Third Worlders to make up the balance (because it's cheaper than "spend 16 years supporting extra kids before they become productive economic units").

Landon Peterson
Landon Peterson

They live off other people's work. All babies are bourgeois.

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

if I ignore it does not exist
All right. You only know about Hungary because their policies were controversial for being very clearly classist, it barely helps the working class while Fidesz's rich friends get even more government money thrown at them. Most European countries give incentives to young couples to breed like rabbits, it's to address future projected labour shortages. Importing foreign workforce is for addressing already existing labour shortages. They are different "problems" with different disgusting policies to "solve" them.

Sebastian Butler
Sebastian Butler

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Get ready for the ultimate galaxy brain take.

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Jacob Brown
Jacob Brown

Oops my bad

James Flores
James Flores

Most European countries give incentives to young couples to breed like rabbits
If European birth-rates are anything to go by rabbits aren't a good comparison

Connor Murphy
Connor Murphy

No it's accurate, it's the policies that don't work. Turns out simply throwing money at problems don't magically fix them.

David Wilson
David Wilson

Absolute Cancer

Christopher Morales
Christopher Morales

just like fembots am i rite fellow virgin?

Carter Ward
Carter Ward

Arguing in bad faith huh?

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